Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media

[AZChristian]

3 hours ago, BAForever said:

Saw the photo somewhere, might be some good photos hopefully or other digital manipulation. I can see someone doing that for the publicity. 

I looked it up as well.  Looks too "perfect" to be real.  I'm sensing Photoshop or other digital editing program.

ETA:

Folks, I am correcting myself.  I was curious enough to go to the source and viewed the actual episode using On Demand.  That reflection is real, and even clearer on the TV screen than the online picture I saw on another site.  Wow.  

Edited October 22, 2024 by AZChristian
Revising my comment after research.

[BAForever]

6 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I looked it up as well.  Looks too "perfect" to be real.  I'm sensing Photoshop or other digital editing program.

ETA:

Folks, I am correcting myself.  I was curious enough to go to the source and viewed the actual episode using On Demand.  That reflection is real, and even clearer on the TV screen than the online picture I saw on another site.  Wow.  

@AZChristian- you and @ginger90 are my  heroes. You are amazing sleuths. I was surprised and saddened by your finding. I think TLC has done a good job honoring Garrison's memory.

[taragel]

i wonder why this is the season where they're finally going to fast forward and catch up to reality (Janelle has said as much in interviews, that you'll see the whole Taeda Farms saga on this season's run and I believe I read Garrison's passing will be addressed). I assumed it was because it was maybe too difficult to not explain/reference what happened to Garrison for another two years (or whatever the lag would normally be) but if they aren't mentioning him anyway and cutting him out of shots that he could or would've been in since they're all supposedly from back in 2022...? I don't know. Do you think this could be the end of Sister Wives? Supposedly the main Puddle Monkey producer has also left the show. I imagine the ratings are actually quite good and am not sure why they'd wrap it up now...even if the premise/central conceit is no longer valid.

[LilyD]

Maybe because they have had too much publicity over the past few years through social media and other sources? (The multiple "divorces", Garrison's death, several kids finally opening up, Christine spilling all the beans on SM)

Even people who are less committed to the show know about these things, making the "reality" aspect of the show less convincing if they don't catch up.

And I do think this is the beginning of the end. There are no more sister wives, there's no polygamy, kids have distanced themselves. What's left is 1 unhappy couple and 3 middle aged women trying to build a new life. A spin off might be in the cards, though I'm not sure I'd watch that. 

 

 

[ginger90]

 Robyn and Kody bought a freaking house for $2,100,000. and they financed $1.68 million of it. 

Edited October 25, 2024 by ginger90

[Salacious Kitty]

I posted about it in Christine's thread since  this definitely affects her child support case. 

[ginger90]

Putting the description in a spoiler because it’s freaking long!

Spoiler

Overview

Welcome to this magnificent & spacious estate that provides a unique opportunity to own a luxurious & versatile move-in ready property which boasts significant upgrades, many of which can be controlled from a smartphone. Located in a heavily treed area with views of Mt Elden, the current property setting harmoniously blends natural beauty, privacy & convenience. There is a combined total of 7,784 sq feet of living space w/ A/C, 6 bedrooms, 6.5 bathrooms, space for 7 cars + an RV between the main house(5,596 s/f), guest house (2,288s/f) & detached RV garage (2,200 s/f). RV garage has an additional 1/2 bath & space for a workshop area. No expense was spared to make this property perfect & accessible for part-time or full-time residents alike! The main house includes 4 bedrooms 4.5 bath, 3 fireplaces, a 5th room that can serve as an office or bedroom, a formal living area as well as an upstairs entertainment area, formal dining, tongue & groove ceilings, elegant staircase w/ gorgeous wrought iron railings & tiled risers that lead to a beautiful cat-walk & loft overlooking the formal living room area. The main level primary bedroom includes a romantic remote controlled fireplace, double sinks, jetted tub, tiled shower & generously sized walk-in double closets. The kitchen is perfect for entertaining w/ 2 islands, 2 ovens, 2 dishwashers, Sub-Zero refrigerator & freezer, plenty of storage, walk-in pantry & granite counters. The guest house has an upstairs apartment with bedroom, TV/living room area & full bathroom. The downstairs consists of a full kitchen with dining area, 2nd full bathroom & impressive game room with custom epoxy floor, plus an additional room that could be used as a theatre room or entertainment area. The climate controlled (heat+A/C) RV garage holds 4+ cars, has a pull thru RV section, tons of storage in the accessible upstairs attic, a half bath plumbed for a shower, tankless water heater & plumbing hook-up for dog wash. This truly special home is positioned on 2.56 acres w/ a tastefully landscaped front entrance, fenced backyard, oversized 3 car garage w/ built in custom cabinets, gorgeous paver patio, tranquil pond with a large custom waterfall, natural gas hook-ups for a grill & fire pit, a paved area hot tub ready. The young at heart will enjoy the zip line, treehouse & tether ball. The AZ trail is just a short distance from the backyard property line allowing for an enjoyable hike to Picture Canyon. Enjoy shopping & restaurants nearby or head to the heart of downtown Flagstaff just 15 min away. Just a few highlights of updates completed by current owners to all buildings on property: Andersen windows, 4 new HVAC units, new roof, tankless water heaters, water softeners and LVP flooring (in main & guest house) ,smart-controlled switches, interior/exterior paint, & gutters/downspouts. The RV garage was completed in 2022, privacy fence areas installed in 2020, backyard fence installed 2023.

 

@Salacious Kitty did you see the description states it has an upstairs attic? I almost died!

[Absolom]

With only two minor children, why do they want this?  They assuredly do not need it.  They need to plan for the adult offspring to launch.  It's by far nicer than what they had though.  Just how much money has Kody basically stolen from the other wives?

Exhibit A in why Christine filed now for child support.

Edited October 25, 2024 by Absolom

[AZChristian]

Yeah - that's going to look great in the financial report when they go to court over Truely.  Maybe one of those 4 bedrooms is for her?  (Nah!)  

In happier news, those high ceilings will make room for more of their art "collection."

[ChristmasJones]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

why do they want this? 

Because Sobbyn's life plan is to keep her kids at home for the rest of their lives. Why else buy such a huge home?

[Absolom]

What she's going to get is 2 out of 3 get as far away from her as they can.  I  still want to know where they're getting the money.

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, ginger90 said:

 Robyn and Kody bought a freaking house for $2,100,000. and they financed $1.68 million of it. 

They put down $420K. They will have 2 mortgages, this one for about 11K/mo and the other is about 10K.  This was pretty sheisty.  Take the cash that they OWE every one of the OG's and could be spent on child support for Truely or Ysabel's surgery.  The new house is in a trust so the OG's can't touch it (allegedly, no idea) but he didn't obey the rules about not spending assets since he is being sued.  R and K are the biggest mother fucking assholes. They sure bled the OG's out of their money to help Robyn live her princess dreams.

[smarty]

What kind of income would Kody and Robyn have to claim they earn in order to qualify for a $1,680,000 mortgage?  That's ignoring the $667,500 mortgage they already have on the house they haven't sold yet.  

[precious pupp]

How do Kody and Robyn sleep at night, having knowingly F**KED 3 devoted women and their children, what they have contributed to this monstrous home and the five Robyn spawn living this large?  Those two flipping assholes have no decency and no moral compass whatsoever.  The greed is ASTOUNDING!

[Elizzikra]

Who the hell approved that loan application???

[Adiba]

It seems as if  Kody is trying to obfuscate the line between family money an his and Robyn’s money. He better be careful about what he claims as mortgage applicationincome vs. what he claims on his tax returns— the IRS may come calling.

[Absolom]

Something like how that other reality show personality ended up in prison?  

[surfgirl]

I hope he goes to prison over this shit. And that his house gets seized ir whatever it's called. I hate this fuckwit and his scammer wife.

[Gramto6]

I'm wondering if he has somehow already sold CP or some sort of under the table swap? Isn't his name on every lot? I wouldn't put something like that past him.

I bet he thinks all  "those people" will flock to his new mansion to worship him..... 🤮  🤮.    And if no,t he'll stand in his driveway and thumb his nose at all of them!!

[Soapy Goddess]

2 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

I'm wondering if he has somehow already sold CP or some sort of under the table swap?

Exactly what I said on the other thread. I wouldn't put it past K&R selling CP and justifying it in their mind an FU to the OG3 for daring to leave the "family".

[Auntie Freeze]

Senior Perspective on YouTube has a really interesting take on what the hell Kody was trying to achieve in that convo with Meri in the latest ep.

8 hours ago, Adiba said:

It seems as if  Kody is trying to obfuscate the line between family money an his and Robyn’s money. He better be careful about what he claims as mortgage applicationincome vs. what he claims on his tax returns— the IRS may come calling.

If they're not already looking into him, they're slipping. We're getting into Giudice type territory here. 🍿 Another reason Christine's legal move is appropriate.

Edited October 26, 2024 by Auntie Freeze

[smarty]

11 hours ago, Adiba said:

It seems as if  Kody is trying to obfuscate the line between family money an his and Robyn’s money. He better be careful about what he claims as mortgage applicationincome vs. what he claims on his tax returns— the IRS may come calling.

If you run one of those online calculators that tells you how much mortgage you can qualify for based on your income, he'd need to have an income of $600,000 a year to qualify for a loan of $1,680,000.  Does it seem likely he and Robyn bring in $600,000 a year?

[Yeah No]

52 minutes ago, smarty said:

If you run one of those online calculators that tells you how much mortgage you can qualify for based on your income, he'd need to have an income of $600,000 a year to qualify for a loan of $1,680,000.  Does it seem likely he and Robyn bring in $600,000 a year?

If he also is paying off mortgages on other properties his income would likely have to be even higher to afford another mortgage outright - but not if he took out a bridge loan to buy the new house on one of the already owned properties such as the old "mansion". I posted this in the other thread - A bridge loan is kind of like an equity loan that you take out on an as-yet unsold property to finance a new one. The understanding is that the already-owned property has to be on the market to be able to do this. Then you can use the equity in the old property to put a down payment on the new one and get a mortgage on it, but the old property is collateral for that and as soon as you sell the old property the bridge loan has to be paid off.

[LilyD]

I’ve done some hypothetical math and thinking, based on some of the numbers we know for sure and what has been mentioned (and may or may not be correct)

We know he bought his old house for 890k. I read above they still have a mortgage of 667k, assuming this is correct and assuming he does manage to sell his house for anything close to the asking price, then he could still end up with 800-900k in profit. (He’d need a bridge loan though)  They’ve apparently done a down payment of 420k, meaning they’d need a new mortgage of approximately 800-900k (2.1 million minus 420k minus 800 or 900k) They could then of course decide to sell (their share of) CP which would lower the necessary amount even more and bring it close to what he has as a mortgage now. So based on the above, he could have pulled it off. 

However…. That’s not taking into account any helocs or other loans they might have. It also doesn’t take into account Christine’s claim for Truely and that Kody was not supposed to sell any assets. I’m also ignoring the origins of the 420k. And lastly, it doesn’t take into account any claims Meri and Janelle have and the money they still owe on CP. I think it’s a bold and very risky move which could either work out perfectly for K&R or be their downfall. 

Edited October 26, 2024 by LilyD

[Sasha888]

I have some thoughts and questions about this new house thing that perhaps someone with more knowledge on the law/trusts/real estate/entertainment business than I have can help with. In other words, I'm suspicious about some of these things, but have no real idea if they are possible.

- Are Robyn's over 18 kids paid for their appearances on the show? Could they be contributing financially, and that's why K& R have enough money for this house?

- Is this the reason for the SADKRAB entertainment LLC? So they can monetize the adult kids appearances, and purchase things under this company or a similar trust? While keeping it separate from K & R's personal income, so that it can't be touched by any ex-wives?

- Are the minor children able to "own" anything, like this new house, with their share of SADKRAB money, if they have any? Or are they underage and can't do that?

- If the kids get a show income, and are part of the loan to get this new house, wouldn't that be a lot more income than just K&R alone could come up with? Is this how they got another mortgage while still owing money on the other home that hasn't even sold yet?

I guess you can see what I'm getting at...are they hiding/sheltering money in some way and getting loans by trusting Robyn's adult kids, or even minor kids, to have their names on things. It would allow them to spend/show more income than just the two of them, and possibly keep money/assets away from the OG three by saying "but that's Dayton/Aurora/Breanna's money/house/company", etc.

[Absolom]

I would guess the adult offspring could be paid if they participated.  How many times the last two seasons have Aurora and Breanna had significant talking roles?  Being seen in background I doubt is going to be compensated for any of them.  Mykelti is likely being paid especially since they filmed at her house.  She would get compensation for that, too.  

I wouldn't put any fancy accounting attempt past Kody and Robyn.

Edited October 26, 2024 by Absolom

[ginger90]

2 hours ago, LilyD said:

It also doesn’t take into account Christine’s claim for Truely and that Kody was not supposed to sell any assets.

This isn’t the case. Standard child support paperwork has that in it, but that is not court ordered and really only applies to divorce/custody/child support cases. No marriage, no divorce.

[LilyD]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

This isn’t the case. Standard child support paperwork has that in it, but that is not court ordered and really only applies to divorce/custody/child support cases. No marriage, no divorce.

Ok, thanks for mentioning this. Like I said in my post, some numbers are facts (e.g. the house price) other info was mentioned out here or somewhere else and may or may not be true. I’m quite sure I read somewhere out here that he was prohibited from selling. But based on your reply, that info was incorrect.

[ginger90]

46 minutes ago, LilyD said:

I’m quite sure I read somewhere out here that he was prohibited from selling.

There are quite a few things being misinterpreted and being “reported”out there. I’ve done it myself with the “he can’t sell the house” stuff. Then I thought that can’t be correct, it’s not joint property with Christine, and no one has access to the actual paperwork in this case to even make that claim.

 

Thank goodness my mind still has light bulb moments. Sometimes I feel like it’s shot!! 
 

Apologies if at one point I posted it here as fact.

Edited October 27, 2024 by ginger90

[Gramto6]

All these financial shenanigans are so mind boggling I wonder if even K&R can keep everything straight. I can't believe Kody is the financial wizard here. They must have some "advisor" directing this step by step. It seems too well planned out overall for Kody's brain(?).

My take is Kody (& Robyn) want the biggest/bestest house of all, all the money from everyone, and to be loved and revered by all. Yeah, and what reality are they living in????

Edited October 27, 2024 by Gramto6
typo

[heatherchandler]

17 hours ago, smarty said:

If you run one of those online calculators that tells you how much mortgage you can qualify for based on your income, he'd need to have an income of $600,000 a year to qualify for a loan of $1,680,000.  Does it seem likely he and Robyn bring in $600,000 a year?

Oh no that’s not true, you can get a million dollar mortgage if you make 200,000-250,000 so 1.6 you need to make like 350,000.  The monthly payment would only be around 10-12,000.

[Yeah No]

35 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

Oh no that’s not true, you can get a million dollar mortgage if you make 200,000-250,000 so 1.6 you need to make like 350,000.  The monthly payment would only be around 10-12,000.

Yeah, but isn't that if you only have one mortgage? If they still owned the old "mansion" and CP and still had mortgages on them they might need a higher income unless they put at least one of them on the market and got the bridge loan.

Edited October 27, 2024 by Yeah No

[lookeyloo]

I guess for me it is that we really have no idea how much money/income/bills etc. they have.  Fun to speculate but we could be close to reality or way far off.  

[precious pupp]

We do know Kody and Robyn spend like there's no tomorrow.  I believe that's a fact, and there's plenty of evidence telling us that.

All I know is I wouldn't sleep well, owing that huge sum, and only speculating that the TV show will go on and on forever.

[Irate Panda]

For supposedly being broke, Kody and Robyn sure seemed to get approved for awfully big loans.   I can’t wait to see the new house’s makeover with purple comforters, purple carpet, purple drapes,  Precious Moments figurines, and wall art featuring SADKRABs

 
 

         
 

It will probably be seen on the show in 2052, if they keep the same pacing.

Edited October 27, 2024 by Irate Panda

[Orcinus orca]

2 hours ago, precious pupp said:

....speculating that the TV show will go on and on forever.

In his tiny little pea brain I am certain that Kootie believes he is endlessly fascinating and that we, his adoring public, will be clamoring for show renewals until the end of our natural lives.

[Auntie Freeze]

 

[BAForever]

Kody and Robyn can sit in their new house, decorate it poorly, and enjoy time with the tenders and (maybe) Day'unAuRoaraBrianna. The 3 OG wives are going to travel, enjoy grandkids and move on with their lives happily. Yeah, it sucks especially for Janelle with the money, but living well is the best revenge, and the original 3 are doing that. 

[Absolom]

Can we believe Solomon recently turned 13?  They've been on TV what seems like forever now.  Ariella will be 9 in January! Surely she's given up the pacifier by now.  Aurora is 22 and hopefully finding her path in life and working her way to independence from her toxic mother.  

[65mickey]

On 10/27/2024 at 4:12 AM, Yeah No said:

Yeah, but isn't that if you only have one mortgage? If they still owned the old "mansion" and CP and still had mortgages on them they might need a higher income unless they put at least one of them on the market and got the bridge loan.

They've done something shady to get this new house. My guess is that they got an equity loan or a bridge loan on the previous house for the 20% downpayment on the new $2,1000.000 house. If it is correct that they put the new house in some sort of trust that a law suit can't touch Meri and Janelle are screwed. If the old house doesn't sell Kody will let it go into foreclosure because there is no equity left. This financial mess is what happens when dumb women trust a corrupt amoral man to take charge of their finances. He ends up with his one prize wife living in a multi million $ home while they rent apartments and houses. And as Janelle keeps reminding us she has no estate. The time for Janelle to go after Kody for the money that she "gave" to him and Robyn to purchase the first million $ house  was years ago when she noticed money flowing out of the family savings account to finance Robyn's spending habit.  I have a feeling that Kody has managed to "bankrupt" himself to get Robyn the new 7800 square foot mansion just so that he can claim he has no money left to repay Meri and Janelle is there really is a law suit.

Edited October 28, 2024 by 65mickey

[mythoughtis]

Janelle now has ‘an estate’.  She bought land in NC with Caleb and Maddie.  I’m sure a house ( or double-wide trailers) will be coming eventually.  The show is so far behind that I think Janelle has gotten something from Kody even if it wasn’t  all she was owed. 

[65mickey]

Did they pay cash for this land? From what I read it is undeveloped land with no utilities and a dirt road.  Shades of Coyote Pass. I hope they know what they are in for with starting a flower farm. It takes a lot of hard work and energy and I'm sorry Janelle doesn't give off had work and energy vibes. I wish them well but if I were Janelle after the Coyote Pass fiasco I would not have invested a lot of money in this enterprise. 

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

They've done something shady to get this new house. My guess is that they got an equity loan or a bridge loan on the previous house for the 20% downpayment on the new $2,1000.000 house. If it is correct that they put the new house in some sort of trust that a law suit can't touch Meri and Janelle are screwed. If the old house doesn't sell Kody will let it go into foreclosure because there is no equity left. This financial mess is what happens when dumb women trust a corrupt amoral man to take charge of their finances. He ends up with his one prize wife living in a multi million $ home while they rent apartments and houses. And as Janelle keeps reminding us she has no estate. The time for Janelle to go after Kody for the money that she "gave" to him and Robyn to purchase the first million $ house  was years ago when she noticed money flowing out of the family savings account to finance Robyn's spending habit.  I have a feeling that Kody has managed to "bankrupt" himself to get Robyn the new 7800 square foot mansion just so that he can claim he has no money left to repay Meri and Janelle is there really is a law suit.

Yup, I know, I've already posted about 4 times in at least 2 different threads about the probability of them getting a bridge loan. It's true that if they don't sell the properties they might go into foreclosure but the bank will get the property which at least will pay off the bridge loan. I wonder how long they have to sell the property, though. I don't know details like that about bridge loans. Knowing him, he has more up his sleeve. I too have been wondering what part getting himself maxed out on credit and then declaring bankruptcy might have to do with his scheme to avoid repaying the other wives.

[LilyD]

1 hour ago, mythoughtis said:

Janelle now has ‘an estate’.  She bought land in NC with Caleb and Maddie.  I’m sure a house ( or double-wide trailers) will be coming eventually.  The show is so far behind that I think Janelle has gotten something from Kody even if it wasn’t  all she was owed. 

Hopefully yes, but doubtful.  She mentioned not too long ago that she was considering hiring a lawyer to get her money back. Also, based on what we have seen and heard so far, Kody's getting crazier by the day. I have no doubt that his warped brain tells him he doesn't owe Meri, Janelle, Christine or Truely anything.

[dariafan]

For someone whose only fear is poverty, he sure likes dancing really close to it 

[LilyD]

Finally had a look at that new amazing mansion. Not overly impressed with its interior, it won't be to everyone's taste. Fortunately, R&K don't have any taste anyway, so problem solved. What's with all those balconies btw? (Yeah I know, open landings...) It gives me odd Romeo and Juliet vibes. 

I noticed there's a guest house...a coincidence? Suddenly our prediction of Robyn wanting to keep her kids close becomes scarily real! 

[AZChristian]

8 minutes ago, LilyD said:

I noticed there's a guest house...a coincidence? Suddenly our prediction of Robyn wanting to keep her kids close becomes scarily real! 

Maybe Dayton wanted to move out of the RV into something more permanent?

[Gramto6]

54 minutes ago, LilyD said:

Finally had a look at that new amazing mansion.

I missed where the link to the new mansion is. Can you reshare it please?

[ginger90]

6 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

I missed where the link to the new mansion is. Can you reshare it please?

I just sent you the address.

[65mickey]

I don't understand why the original house was removed from the market. Are Kody and Robyn really going to be able to pay 2 huge mortgages? I would love to know what is going on with the first house.