S02.09: There Goes The Neighborhood

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, sadie said:

I really really hate that they have Nya hooking up on Tinder. It’s just gross, seems super careless in terms of safety and, I don’t know, it just makes me feel yuk. I hope they have something better for the actress to do soon.

They already had two fine looking men around Nyla.  Gary Dourdan and the guy who dropped the mic down her shirt.  But they have her hooking up with a guy from Tinder?

[T Summer]

17 minutes ago, Teriacky said:

It seems that Carrie still thinks the world actually revolves around her. Why is she assuming that Aiden is going to pull up roots and leave his sons to move to New York? 
 

The writing on this show is whack! as has been said so many times!

Why wouldn't they have a talk about whether their future will mean being together full time under the same roof, or if Aiden will be continuing to come to see Carrie in NYC? Maybe while his two youngest are still at home? If they're going to marry or live together, why not pick out a place together like normal people would?

 

[Scarlett45]

2 hours ago, John M said:

Is it just me or is Aiden just completely obnoxious all the time? I just can't see Carrie being happy with someone who is so constantly extraverted and over the top, I just don't see him fitting in with the kind of people she socializes with.

As for Anthony, it is EXTREMELY common for there to be big age gaps between partners.

Plus the guy is almost 30, like, it's not like Anthony would look like he was preying on the naivety of someone that hasn't made some decisions about their life, by his age it's not shocking that he might be attracted to the stability of Anthony and his social circle, Anthony is not ugly, he owns a business, is socially well connected. Yeah, there is an age gap but not so much one where they are fundamentally in different life phases. And again, this kind of thing is extremely common in the gay community and not even exclusive to wealthy well connected gays. I'm just thinking about our gay married couple friends, I honestly may be the closest age to my husband at 9 years apart.

Thanks for your personal insight- the young guy is grown (he’s not Brady’s age for example), so I don’t think it’s predatory.

Anthony is attractive and stable like you said.
 

I couldn’t personally see myself with someone 30+ older than me, even if they were attractive because I would immediately see myself as their caregiver, not their partner but I don’t think there is anything wrong with big gaps so long as people are actual adults.

 

(I’m taking a further question I have about this to Small Talk)

[RedHawk]

1 hour ago, SeanBug said:

I don't think Aidan is a jerk. He's just a friendly guy. This whole, "you can't have visitors for more than thirty days" is bullshit.. But then again this is a NYC condo board, they're known to not let you in the building for a litany of made up reasons. Remember Charlotte's neighbors in the building where she & Trey lived gave her shit about having male visitors after her divorce.  

Che's place isn't a condo, it's a rental apartment. Che has made a couple of  comments about having a lease, and the letter that Carrie and Aidan picked up was from the management company not a condo board. My apartment has a "maximum 14-day stay" rule about overnight guests, and a strict rule against subleasing or listing on AirBnB/VRBO. You can be evicted for violating these rules and that's what Che is worried about. 

Aidan is definitely a friendly guy, but he was told to keep a low profile and why. The writers are making him behave like a thoughtless jerk. The whole thing of giving false names to the neighbor and saying they both were Che's cousin was complete idiocy, not at all funny. A simple cover story -- "Hi, I'm Che's cousin and we're visiting." -- would have sufficed. They aren't there for 30 days at a stretch, and they aren't causing noise problems, so likely the neighbor would have accepted their "visits" by the third time seeing them. In the neighbor's eyes better to have the same mature, quiet, white (as Che remarked) couple that come and stay every weekend rather than a bunch of unknown people coming and going on random days and at all hours.

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[RedHawk]

1 hour ago, SeanBug said:

Yeah why isn't she writing an endowment to NYU liberal arts program, or being a HUGE donor to a charity, or, God forbid, donating some of those ridiculous get ups to that charity that helps women get ready to go on job interviews, Dress for Success?  I mean, they aren't going to get hired wearing some of them and looking like a circus clown at an interview, but she did have some good pieces that women without the means to buy a decent suit, etc could use. 

I loved that Enid got $100,000 out of Carrie. LOL!

When she wrote a check for something (maybe to Enid, a few episodes ago) we got a glimpse of her checkbook and there was a previous check (a carbon or a notation) written as a donation to the New York Public Library. I didn't care enough to pause and try to see how much. Could have been $1,000. Maybe it was just late fees...

It would be good to see Carrie more charitable but there are plenty of rich women who don't donate and/or participate in the charity circle and I can see Carrie continue her usual behavior of being all about herself.

And I will say, everything we've seen about Big's money and Carrie's inheritance shows that he didn't share much info about his finances and she didn't ask. Another unrealistic fantasy aspect of the show. It's made to look like he paid for everything and she had her small earnings from her books, etc. for her own personal use (gifts and such). Probably he gave her a credit card and said, "Whatever you want, kiddo." Such a weird, unbalanced relationship. 

Edited August 11, 2023 by RedHawk

[txhorns79]

38 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Anthony is attractive and stable like you said.

I think the stability part would be key, given that means access to money and a decent standard of living.   

 

15 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

It's made to look like he paid for everything and she had her small earnings from her books, etc. for her own personal use (gifts and such).

I don't pretend to know about the publishing world, but I'd have to think her books must do relatively well, given she's had four or five of them published.  I'm not saying she's raking in millions or anything, but I don't know that her earnings are small either. 

I did see that the exterior of Carrie's new place would be at No. 3 Gramercy Park West.  I'm not certain whether they actually filmed inside that building.  

[luna1122again]

Candace Bushnell's worth a couple million or something. I know Carrie's trajectory hasn't been the same (and I still think they should have Carrie's book made into a TV series, for some very meta moments) but it's possible Carrie is a millionaire in her own right. Not that that would make it realistic for her to just be buying $5 million apartments willy-nilly. But she and Big were married. It became THEIR money. and now it's all hers. I don't love how extravagant and out of touch with reality so much of this is, but there's a long history of TV characters living way outside their actual means. I just hand wave it, mostly. 

That Gramercy Park apartment is gorgeous. 

I love Aidan mostly because I love JC, but he IS corny AF. He's a walking talking albeit handsome Dad joke. 

[Scarlett45]

58 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

And I will say, everything we've seen about Big's money and Carrie's inheritance shows that he didn't share much info about his finances and she didn't ask. Another unrealistic fantasy aspect of the show. It's made to look like he paid for everything and she had her small earnings from her books, etc. for her own personal use (gifts and such). Probably he gave her a credit card and said, "Whatever you want, kiddo." Such a weird, unbalanced relationship. 

I could see their married life (even when they were just living together) as Big paying all the household bills and Carrie’s money for her personal use (clothing, makeup, entertainment etc). I don’t find that incredibly weird given their HUGE discrepancies in wealth, in Big’s mind he was going to live a certain way whether Carrie was there or not, so what’s food for one extra person? Not like they were trying to raise kids or care for disabled relatives. I know a few couples with large income gaps who live this way. 
 

Carrie had no interest in the financial situation and trusted Big to keep them in a certain lifestyle. I think Big losing his fortune or it being tied up legally and Carrie having to go back on to living on her income would’ve been narratively interesting. 

[RedHawk]

52 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

I don't pretend to know about the publishing world, but I'd have to think her books must do relatively well, given she's had four or five of them published.  I'm not saying she's raking in millions or anything, but I don't know that her earnings are small either. 

 

34 minutes ago, luna1122again said:

Candace Bushnell's worth a couple million or something. I know Carrie's trajectory hasn't been the same (and I still think they should have Carrie's book made into a TV series, for some very meta moments) but it's possible Carrie is a millionaire in her own right. Not that that would make it realistic for her to just be buying $5 million apartments willy-nilly. But she and Big were married. It became THEIR money. and now it's all hers. I don't love how extravagant and out of touch with reality so much of this is, but there's a long history of TV characters living way outside their actual means. I just hand wave it, mostly. 

That Gramercy Park apartment is gorgeous. 

I love Aidan mostly because I love JC, but he IS corny AF. He's a walking talking albeit handsome Dad joke. 

I didn't mean "small" earnings as in less than $25,000 a year, but small in comparison to Big's apparent millions. By the time of the second (shitty) movie she had enough of her own money to buy him a very fine watch. I was commenting more on how it seems that he controlled all his money and she didn't have any real understanding of his net worth, annual income, or what was in his will. I don't think he completely considered it her money ("theirs") as well, even if he was totally generous and paid for everything.

There was still an air of "it's mine", just like how Miranda thinks the Brooklyn house is more hers and Steve should move out because she made the downpayment and her name is on the mortgage. (Why after all these years isn't Steve's name isn't on the deed? Looks like poor planning from Lawyer Miranda.)

15 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I could see their married life (even when they were just living together) as Big paying all the household bills and Carrie’s money for her personal use (clothing, makeup, entertainment etc). I don’t find that incredibly weird given their HUGE discrepancies in wealth, in Big’s mind he was going to live a certain way whether Carrie was there or not, so what’s food for one extra person? Not like they were trying to raise kids or care for disabled relatives. I know a few couples with large income gaps who live this way. 
 

Carrie had no interest in the financial situation and trusted Big to keep them in a certain lifestyle. I think Big losing his fortune or it being tied up legally and Carrie having to go back on to living on her income would’ve been realistic. 

I don't find it weird, just foolish. Women who willfully pay no attention to their wealthy husband's finances often don't end up well. Carrie is written as so dumb about money that it just exasperates me.

I would love for Big's wealth to have been much less than she imagined, perhaps due to recent losses, and for that $1 million he gave to Natasha to have made a little dent in her bottom line. ETA: She could still have been a wealthy widow who had enough to not need to work but not wealthy enough to buy a home on Gramercy Park. 

This fantasy life they've made for her in AJLT isn't as easy to hand wave away as the life she lived in SATC.

Edited August 11, 2023 by RedHawk
More on Carrie's wealth

[Scarlett45]

15 hours ago, RedHawk said:

There was still an air of "it's mine", just like how Miranda thinks the Brooklyn house is more hers and Steve should move out because she made the downpayment and her name is on the mortgage. (Why after all these years isn't Steve's name isn't on the deed? Looks like poor planning from Lawyer Miranda.)

Steve’s name probably is on the deed as Miranda’s husband, it just wasn’t on the mortgage as she was the higher earner with a better credit score. 

[RedHawk]

2 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Steve’s name probably is on the deed as Miranda’s husband, it just wasn’t on the mortgage as she was the higher earned with a better credit score. 

I hope his name is on the deed and I hope he uses that to stake his claim to it. I'm sure she did not pay 100% of the mortgage and he can show that.

[Sailorgirl26]

7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I hate Carrie having a seemingly unlimited amount of money.  She buys and sells real estate like it's nothing.  People are going into debt just to be able to go grocery shopping and she is buying what I presume is a house that is at minimum in the $10 million range. 

For the heck of it, I looked up Gramercy Park listings on Zillow. There's a 4 br, 4 ba for $7.2M close to the park. Bigger properties, as one would expect, are much pricier. 

So you're pretty close on the price -- and I'm sorry but that place she bought is not an apartment -- its a house, or maybe a townhouse, but definitely not an apartment. 

[slowpoked]

1 hour ago, RedHawk said:

And I will say, everything we've seen about Big's money and Carrie's inheritance shows that he didn't share much info about his finances and she didn't ask. Another unrealistic fantasy aspect of the show. It's made to look like he paid for everything and she had her small earnings from her books, etc. for her own personal use (gifts and such). Probably he gave her a credit card and said, "Whatever you want, kiddo." Such a weird, unbalanced relationship. 

For some reason this reminded me of that episode where Carrie, soon to be homeless because of her break-up with Aidan, came to Big to ask him how he could earn money so fast, because whatever he did, she wants to be on it. Big ended up giving her a check, a "loan", but Carrie ripped it off after advice from friends.

I imagine Carrie made a lot of money on the books, but I never thought she made "stupid money," especially on how fast she was spending when she gets a check (and did she ever pay back Charlotte on her first engagement ring)? I remember that episode where she got her first big advance check, and she showed it to Berger, and Berger's mind was blown, probably because the amount was insane and he never got that amount on his books. Carrie's first instinct is not to set aside to save some money, or pay down a credit card. She took Berger to get a Prada shirt. 

On that same note, when Berger got dropped on his book deal, I imagine that hit  him hard financially. Her publisher got fired. But of course, Carrie was spared the agony of all that. 

[bluegirl147]

32 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think Big losing his fortune or it being tied up legally and Carrie having to go back on to living on her income would’ve been narratively interesting.

I've said from the beginning that would have been a much better story.

But since we can't have that I would love to see Carrie have a sit down with an accountant or someone who handles her money and that person tells her she is broke.  At least cash broke.  That all her money is tied up in whatever.  

32 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

(Why after all these years isn't Steve's name isn't on the deed? Looks like poor planning from Lawyer Miranda.)

Or it was by design.  And Miranda wanted the house to be hers and hers alone if they ever split up.

[RedHawk]

7 minutes ago, slowpoked said:

For some reason this reminded me of that episode where Carrie, soon to be homeless because of her break-up with Aidan, came to Big to ask him how he could earn money so fast, because whatever he did, she wants to be on it. Big ended up giving her a check, a "loan", but Carrie ripped it off after advice from friends.

I imagine Carrie made a lot of money on the books, but I never thought she made "stupid money," especially on how fast she was spending when she gets a check (and did she ever pay back Charlotte on her first engagement ring)? I remember that episode where she got her first big advance check, and she showed it to Berger, and Berger's mind was blown, probably because the amount was insane and he never got that amount on his books. Carrie's first instinct is not to set aside to save some money, or pay down a credit card. She took Berger to get a Prada shirt. 

On that same note, when Berger got dropped on his book deal, I imagine that hit  him hard financially. Her publisher got fired. But of course, Carrie was spared the agony of all that. 

It was just like Carrie to take a big advance and buy a Prada shirt, not for herself even but for her boyfriend. An advance is exactly that, an advance on what the book is expected to earn. If it did not earn that, Carrie would owe a repayment to her publishers. I think by that point it was probably a sure bet her book would sell, but I doubt she made millions on any one book. You have to have a big bestseller to do that.

I soooo wish they had shown us Carrie paying Charlotte back at some point! That ring thing was a huge contentious issue for fans.

ETA: It annoys me that of the four friends, Carrie who was always so bad with money wound up being the richest one, because she married the richest guy. Carrie was always conservative in this way, not at all an independent woman in the way her friends were.

Edited August 11, 2023 by RedHawk

[Scarlett45]

5 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

I soooo wish they had shown us Carrie paying Charlotte back at some point! That ring thing was a huge contentious issue for fans.

I know. Even a throw away line that she paid her back in a lump sum after her first book advance. 

[RedHawk]

Ah well, so now she buys a house on Gramercy Park and Aidan barely blinks. He makes a few remarks about how she should buy it for herself yada yada yada.

I still want to see his red brick farmhouse -- in Norfolk -- that's "better" than Howards End. 

[Scarlett45]

7 hours ago, Teriacky said:

It seems that Carrie still thinks the world actually revolves around her. Why is she assuming that Aiden is going to pull up roots and leave his sons to move to New York? 
 

I don’t think Carrie expects Aidan to move to NYC. He has shared custody with his ex-wife (one week on/one week off), Carrie likely wanted to have room for the boys if they wanted to visit, especially as the middle one won’t be doing shared custody much longer (he’s 17)

I think Carrie loves the idea that Aidan would be gone a few weeks and then back for a week to hang out (depending on the needs of his sons), time together but not on her face on the daily or weekly. 

[CeeBeeGee]

 

3 hours ago, sadie said:

My favorite part of SATC was always the clothes and the NYC house porn. That house off Grammercy Park, wow. If I win the Mega Millions that’s what I want.

Agreed, that house is gorgeous!

 

2 hours ago, RedHawk said:

When she wrote a check for something (maybe to Enid, a few episodes ago) we got a glimpse of her checkbook and there was a previous check (a carbon or a notation) written as a donation to the New York Public Library. I didn't care enough to pause and try to see how much. Could have been $1,000. Maybe it was just late fees...

The NYCPL no longer charges late fees.

[SeanBug]

3 hours ago, sadie said:

I really really hate that they have Nya hooking up on Tinder. It’s just gross, seems super careless in terms of safety and, I don’t know, it just makes me feel yuk. I hope they have something better for the actress to do soon.

The portraits of Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton got me totally in the feels.

And while I think John Corbett is a good looking man, the tighty whitey scene just didn’t work. Although Carries outfit in that scene was to die for! 

My favorite part of SATC was always the clothes and the NYC house porn. That house off Grammercy Park, wow. If I win the Mega Millions that’s what I want.

I agree re Nya and the Tinder guy. FFS woman you're old enough to know better than to hook up with some rando off the interwebs, and then get all upset when you see your ex with his new partner. 

And Seema having sex in the bedroom of the apartment she's showing. What is with these women? 

I got sad too at the portrait of Elizabeth Taylor.  I thought the new Bulldog was Richard Burton. Is he Richard Burton Jr? 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

4 hours ago, Teriacky said:

It seems that Carrie still thinks the world actually revolves around her. Why is she assuming that Aiden is going to pull up roots and leave his sons to move to New York? 
 

She isn't.  She needs the place so Aiden will stay with her on the alternate weeks when he doesn't have his boys at his farm.  She also wants to have enough space so that the boys can occasionally visit.

4 bedrooms: 1 for her (and Aiden when he visits), 1 for her clothes, and the last 2 furnished with at least 3 beds in case the boys all come at the same time.  Maybe one room has 2 beds, and the other has her desk and a 3rd bed.

I'm not clear on why a 20-year old would be going back and forth between his parents each week regularly, though.  He'd either be at college or working.  If the latter, and assuming he doesn't have his own place, I don't know why he would would want to keep moving back and forth.  He'd mostly likely pick one place, and visit the other parent whenever.  Not every family is the same, but if Miranda got her own 2-bedroom in Brooklyn, I doubt that Brady would be going back and forth on a weekly schedule. Perhaps Aiden's oldest just wants to always be with his younger brothers, but that seems a bit much.

[Yogisbooboo64]

On 8/10/2023 at 7:46 AM, ChattyCathyLA said:

And how about Aiden in those “tighty whities”?  ☺️

I'm still throwing up in my throat, why'da have to remind me?!!  He looked like Mr. Yogi after his operation and he had to wear pull ups, yuck!  In general whoever designed tighty whities should be punched in the nuts!

Felt bad for Nya seeing Andre and his knocked up heiffa....that said, Karen Pittman is really being wasted.

[babyhouseman]

This makes me remember the scene of Aiden eating KFC in his tighty whities in the original show. I found that gross.

[MaggieG]

Lisa might be pregnant? I must have zoned out during that conversation between her and Herbert because I missed that. 

Honestly, I'm not mad at the possible Brady/Lily hookup. 

I did chuckle at Harry's dilemma about whether or not to get a coat rack. 

I loved Miranda's coat/dress combo in her coffee scene with Brady. I also liked Carrie's dress in her first scene, as well as her outfit at dinner with Seema. 

So every time Miranda needs to shower or use the toilet she has to go in Nya's room??

[Lethallyfab]

5 hours ago, RedHawk said:

I loved that Enid got $100,000 out of Carrie. LOL!

Enid paid Carrie $4 a WORD at Vogue (that’s is $6.72 in today’s money!  Freelancers would kill for it!).  Enid truly deserved that money.

[yellowjacket]

I squee-ed when I saw Rosemary DeWitt.  A long time ago, like I guess 2006ish, my niece and I went to have a fancy snooty Thanksgiving dinner in Morris County NJ, I think the Pluckemin Inn in Bedminster.  We got seated in the cellar, which was not a slight, actually even snootier and blissfully quiet.  There was only one other table, with an older gentleman and a young couple.

My niece saw them first.  The woman was saying "You don't know Dad, the show may not even be picked up."  Niece side-nodded at them and whispered to me  "post it..."  and since I'm always so cool I said, kinda loud "what the f do you mean POST IT?"

It was Ron Livingston and Rosemary DeWitt having T-Day dinner with her Dad.  They were very gracious, she chatted with me in the ladies room even though I wanted to melt into the floor. The show that might not have been  picked up was Mad Men.

[txhorns79]

2 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

Felt bad for Nya seeing Andre and his knocked up heiffa....that said, Karen Pittman is really being wasted.

I don't know when The Morning Show was filming it's third season, but I wonder if that is part of the reason her role feels limited here. 

[RedHawk]

2 hours ago, MaggieG said:

Lisa might be pregnant? I must have zoned out during that conversation between her and Herbert because I missed that. 

My reaction was: "Who cares?" And please, don't tell me they're going to have it turn out that she doesn't understand perimenopause or that she has a tumor or something. Never heard of that before.

I still can't believe that her husband is running for office mostly because she announced it at their anniversary dinner. He wasn't that committed to the idea, and running for office is a BIG commitment, taking a lot of time away from family, etc. That dinner was a kind of fun train wreck and I like the couple but their stories are ho-hum. A baby won't fix that. And Lisa will be really upset if he's not around to help with her late-in-life surprise baby.

Edited August 12, 2023 by RedHawk

[BellyLaughter]

Just as I recover from my Che trauma they give me old Aiden in his tighty whiteys… Nope.  Shut it down. 
 

I will probably be alone in this but I found Nya’s sex scenes so jarring… like pantomime.  Also I don’t care about Nya… or The Wexleys or Seema’s love life/insecurities.  
 

Charlotte and her naive, endless belief in people gives me life! 

[RedHawk]

1 minute ago, BellyLaughter said:

Just as I recover from my Che trauma they give me old Aiden in his tighty whiteys… Nope.  Shut it down. 
 

I will probably be alone in this but I found Nya’s sex scenes so jarring… like pantomime.  Also I don’t care about Nya… or The Wexleys or Seema’s love life/insecurities.  
 

Charlotte and her naive, endless belief in people gives me life! 

That was so rude of MPK, the director, whoever to put Aidan out there in our faces like that! Not funny. Certainly not cute. That and his goofiness are starting to bug me. Are we seeing Aidan as he always was and we've just forgotten. I'm thinking Big was not a big mistake!

Of all the new women I like Lisette best and we've barely seen her. Then Seema but they need to give her better storylines. I felt like the sex scenes with Nya were an echo of Samantha's but yeah, somehow off, a bit inauthentic or something. Kim Cattrall always gave the sex scenes her all.

Glad Nya's getting it with the hot guy though. 

[Scarlett45]

3 hours ago, SeanBug said:

I got sad too at the portrait of Elizabeth Taylor.  I thought the new Bulldog was Richard Burton. Is he Richard Burton Jr? 

The new dog is Richard Burton. The second portrait was of him. Likely after Elizabeth Taylor’s last puppy died Charlotte didn’t want another cavalier and adopted Richard. 

[RedDelicious]

I know it’s very likely a set but I look at Carrie’s new all white place and cry for what would have been the original woodwork underneath 😭 We call all that white “getting Gorga-ed” or Gorgafied after Joe/Melissa Gorga and their horrible taste.

[Norma Desmond]

I did not need to see John Corbett in his tighty whities

[Norma Desmond]

13 hours ago, TakomaSnark said:

I never wanted kids, and broke up with my 'Big' after ten years because he did. It definitely stung to see him loop around, marry and knock up someone within a year, as if that ten years was nothing. 

Maybe it comes back to the adage (usually reserved for describing the different ways men and women respond to the loss of a spouse), 'Women grieve, men replace.'

Miranda said it best: Men are like cabs!

[SFoster21]

9 hours ago, RedHawk said:

Ah well, so now she buys a house on Gramercy Park and Aidan barely blinks. He makes a few remarks about how she should buy it for herself yada yada yada.

I still want to see his red brick farmhouse -- in Norfolk -- that's "better" than Howards End. 

I am personally offended that this show sought to reference that show at all since every character is hopelessly clueless about it?

as in SATC, the lack of intellectual range these “New York” characters (one a WRITER) possess is puzzling.

[cardigirl]

23 hours ago, luna1122again said:

I don't mind Lily and Brady hooking up, if they are. I grew up with boys who almost seemed like family, until we all hit teenaged years and suddenly we looked at each other differently. I did have to laugh at Charlotte and Harry's reaction to the thought of Miranda as mother in law. 

... I also agree that Miranda doesn't want Brady to turn into Steve, which does her ex a great disservice. But she's done him plenty of those. Also, I still want to know what Brady knows about Miranda finding 'her path". Does he know about her her newfound sexuality, or Che, or  her drinking problem? 

I enjoyed this episode more than any of the season 1 episodes.  I quoted this because I think Miranda is concerned about Brady's path (i.e., he's not doing exactly what she thinks he should be doing), but she's going about it all wrong. That conversation with him set my teeth on edge FOR HIM.  He's telling he's feeling good (she was so worried about his emotional state after the breakup) and that he's doing okay. Maybe that's all he needs to be at this moment. But she can't drop it, ever, and has to mention how good he is at math, etc., which honestly would make me just want to turn around and not talk to her again for a while. She's too much. She's high strung. 

As far as Brady being privileged and not having to worry about money because Mommy and Daddy are taking care of him, I think Steve was very smart to bring Brady to work. Brady was so devastated by his breakup, giving him something to do helped pulled him out of it. 

Miranda really does think Steve's work is way beneath hers and not a great choice for her son. But shouldn't she be more concerned about his emotional health? 

I dunno, but I think Steve is out parenting Miranda at this point. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by cardigirl

[bluegirl147]

4 hours ago, cardigirl said:

I enjoyed this episode more than any of the season 1 episodes.  I quoted this because I think Miranda is concerned about Brady's path (i.e., he's not doing exactly what she thinks he should be doing), but she's going about it all wrong. That conversation with him set my teeth on edge FOR HIM.  He's telling he's feeling good (she was so worried about his emotional state after the breakup) and that he's doing okay. Maybe that's all he needs to be at this moment. But she can't drop it, ever, and has to mention how good he is at math, etc., which honestly would make me just want to turn around and not talk to her again for a while. She's too much. She's high strung. 

As far as Brady being privileged and not having to worry about money because Mommy and Daddy are taking care of him, I think Steve was very smart to bring Brady to work. Brady was so devastated by his breakup, giving him something to do helped pulled him out of it. 

Miranda really does think Steve's work is way beneath hers and not a great choice for her son. But shouldn't she be more concerned about his emotional health? 

I dunno, but I think Steve is out parenting Miranda at this point. 

Yes Miranda doesn't want Brady to turn out like his father.   You know the man she married. I get wanting your kid to do well as an adult but for some kids that doesn't include college.

[TexasGal]

On 8/10/2023 at 9:53 AM, EtheltoTillie said:

Ryan Serhant playing himself LOL.  

Is Bravo underwriting this season or something?  So weird.

[EtheltoTillie]

2 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Is Bravo underwriting this season or something?  So weird.

IKR?

[RedInk]

As much as I’m sure the show runners would hate to admit it, they’ve clearly done an about-face in response to viewer criticisms. Now I can’t see an endgame for Miranda (who’s now basically her old self) and Che at all. Plus real estate, plus fashion, plus light storylines. It was like last season was a dream sequence. There are still plenty of nitpicks, dragged-out storylines and eye rolls, but it’s still an improvement.
My guess for the LTW plot is she’s not pregnant but Nya is. I wish I had more interest in either one of them. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by RedInk

[drivethroo]

Aiden having a farm anywhere in the 757 is ridiculous.  IMO it would be more in character for his character to have a farm in Northern Virginia (like Faquier/Loudoun), Charlottesville/Albemarle (The Rock & Sissy Spacek have farms out there) or even outside of Richmond or perhaps the Northern Neck area than ...Norfolk.  Naw.

[Sailorgirl26]

3 hours ago, RedInk said:

 It was like last season was a dream nightmare sequence. 

Fixed it for ya'... 😅

[maddie965]

On 8/11/2023 at 11:55 AM, TV Diva Queen said:

its Gramercy Park and it does come with its very own private park.  

I absolutely hate that idea. So elitist and arrogant! Of course Carrie wants that.

Edited August 13, 2023 by maddie965

[Scarlett45]

5 hours ago, RedInk said:

My guess for the LTW plot is she’s not pregnant but Nya is. I wish I had more interest in either one of them. 

No!!!!! Don’t do this to me. No pregnancy for either of them.
 

Let Nya live her childfree life in peace.

[Rebecca berkowit]

6 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

No!!!!! Don’t do this to me. No pregnancy for either of them.
 

Let Nya live her childfree life in peace.

I think, unfortunately, that Lisa is indeed pregnant.  Why?  The hack writing.  She was super super tired, to the point of randomly falling asleep while dressing herself.  Whenever they show that on Tv, the character is usually pregnant.  Or when they show nausea/vomiting/fainting.  Pregnant.  People on Tv never just notice a missed period and take a test, like the rest of us.   (That symptom shows up first and is a pretty good indicator).   They just go about their business until the vomiting starts.  Then it dawns on them.  This is a weird TV convention I hate.  I get why they do it, it makes it more dramatic.   They wouldn’t have written her being so, so, tired if they didn’t intend for her to really be pregnant, by the laws of hack Tv.  

[T Summer]

Well...well.  The things you learn along the way. I never knew women cared    what kind of underwear men wore? I never even thought of it, but then my husband doesn't wear the  oh  so objectionable Jockey's. And all these years I thought people were saying tidy whities.😄

 

Looking at Charlotte's oil paintings of her dogs for a moment I thought who  has oil paintings of their pets?

Until I remembered, 🫦🫢 I   have an oil painting of my beloved pet who is no longer with me.

[RedDelicious]

10 hours ago, maddie965 said:

I absolutely hate that idea. So elitist and arrogant! Of course Carrie wants that.

It’s a landmark steeped in nearly 200 years of history and tradition. The people who live around the perimeter are responsible to pay the annual fee for its maintenance and upkeep, not the city. That’s what private park means. It’s their collective garden that they pay for. 

[Scarlett45]

14 minutes ago, T Summer said:

Well...well.  The things you learn along the way. I never knew women cared    what kind of underwear men wore? I never even thought of it, but then my husband doesn't wear the  oh  so objectionable Jockey's. And all these years I thought people were saying tidy whities.😄

Oh yeah it’s a thing- I do not prefer tightie whities on adult men. I love Aidan as a character, but those things were not sexy. He has a right to wear them if he loves them, but they are not aesthetically appealing or sexually enticing. 

 

4 hours ago, Rebecca berkowit said:

They wouldn’t have written her being so, so, tired if they didn’t intend for her to really be pregnant, by the laws of hack Tv.

I know you’re trying to comfort me, and I appreciate it. I’m still mad. I’ll still be mad if they course correct and she admits she’s not pregnant and just going through menopause. Even if the character is younger than the actress (given she has a small child, maybe she’s playing 42-45, not 52) STILL….

[Baltimore Betty]

The Gramercy Park house had four bedrooms, I am guessing a kitchen and some bathrooms but we only see a living room and I guess the dining room and a hint of a staircase and she has access to show it to her friends and Aiden...nobody was curious to see upstairs or the kitchen or even a powder room?

My thought about Carrie and the move is she is putting the cart before the horse, how long can the long distance relationship go on for? Had they talked about the future beyond the next time Aiden visits?

How convenient for barely seen downstairs neighbor to tell Carrie that she is being kicked out of her place so naturally Carrie will sublet to her.

Aiden in the Under-roos, he comes out of the bedroom asking who is at the door, was he going to open the door in his Superman Under-roos? It was not a good look on him, there are many options for men in the underwear arena, even a different color briefs would have been better.

Lily sleeping with Napolean Dynamite would never happen without Charlotte knowing because how else would Lily get condoms! Seriously, Lily has a lot on the ball, has goals and sleeps with someone who has not drive or even a smattering of goals. College may not be for everyone but a trade school maybe? Culinary institute, something?  Harry saying that Lily could do worse in regards to her marrying Napolean Dynamite, really a kid with no direction in life...I think Lily could do better without even trying.  Also, what is it with the coats they put the men in, last time it was the para military coat for Aiden and now we see Brady in that awful over pocketed pull over sweat shirt, so bad.

Stupid, inept Harry and his catering issues was stupid, it is New York City, kosher caterers are plentiful, why would everything be kosher but one item? Also, why did he have to have it Kosher, they do not have a kosher house, did they invite only people that keep kosher? And there are such a thing as kosher pigs in a blanket, Hebrew National makes a big box of them! Vegetarian can usually suffice for that one person like the older women who thought the dumplings were pork but from a Kosher caterer...it would never happen.  Also, way to support your wife doing something to make her feel good and fulfilled, tell her that since she was not home to take care of the catering that you had to do it? Really Harry, I thought you were better than that.

Unplanned pregnancy, yawn. I do not care who is pregnant or not pregnant because it will be a farce.

Miranda needs her own place, I am shocked that Carrie did not think of letting Miranda rent her magical jewel box with of an apartment.

Che's apartment and visitors longer than 30 days...that would be consecutive, Carrie and Aiden were there for 3 days max on weekends, maybe a week but not 30 days consecutively.  

No way is there some red brick farmhouse in Norfolk, there are a lot of arts and crafts style homes,cottages, some historic brick apartment buildings, lots of new townhomes near the water but where is this red brick farmhouse they speak of?  There is a huge naval base there, they could do a revisit of Fleet Week, lol.

How funny that Aiden's ex-wife is Ron Livingston's real life wife! 

Seema having sex in that apartment she was showing is one thing but getting in the bed and treating it like it was hers, just no, that is the sort of thing that could ruin a career. 

 

 

[PurpleTentacle]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:16 PM, tennisgurl said:

Brady and Lilly having sex is just icky to me. I know that sixteen and nineteen are not that far in age but there are a lot of developmental differences between sixteen and nineteen, not even getting into the fact that this show spends way too much time making me think about teenagers who I last remember as cute little kids having sex. Doesn't Lilly have a boyfriend? Miranda really would be an awful mother in law, I cant even imagine how insufferable she would be for the poor girl Brady ends up with. Also, where the hell did Steve go? 

To be fair Lily seems more mature than Brady.

On 8/10/2023 at 5:17 PM, Rebecca berkowit said:

Why can’t they have an honest conversation about what happened before?  It’s an apartment, not the Amityville Horror.  Something along the lines of “I know a lot of bad stuff happened here, but we built this apartment together, this is a new time, we can make it our own.” ?  

I might be alone in this, but I think that part is understandable. You don't want to constantly be reminded of the bad shit that happened there and if Carrie is serious about the fresh start, I think getting a new apartment together isn't too much to ask.

I mean she's super loaded and just sold a New York penthouse apartment. If she wanted to she could keep her old apartment and just rent it out. So she doesn't even have to give anything up if she doesn't want to.

On 8/10/2023 at 6:20 PM, ruby24 said:

Is it weird that Charlotte is this okay with Lily sleeping with multiple boys already? This casually?

I mean it's only two that we know off. And both weren't some randos. It's not like she's selling it for a nickel at the docks.

On 8/11/2023 at 12:14 AM, Lebanna said:

Carrie is just way too rich. She can just buy a giant house with its own park in case she has step kids before selling her other place? She’s a billionaire.

Well she certainly has multiple millions. Shouldn't come as that much of a surprise when you look at how loaded Big was and where she lived with him while still keeping her apartment on the side.