S10.E15: The Stud Sails Again

[TexasGal]

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The crew welcomes back Capt. Lee while new stew Leigh-Ann gets thrown into the deep end; Ben finds himself in an unexpected love triangle; Ross and Katie navigate what their "yacht-mance" means to them; Fraser tries to adjust to the team dynamic.

Airdate: 03.06.2023

[Tanukisan]

Like an overjoyed viewer glad to see the back of Captain Queeg, these comments are in the order of the episode scenes broadcast…

Fraser – “Why are we letting guests choose what they want to do, I’ll never know, but we’ve got to cater towards their needs.”  And that, sirrah, is why you’ll never be more than a waiter.

And now Fraser is threatened by the new stew, because she has been a Chief Stew longer than he has.  Will you ever grow up, Fraser?  Just bugger on and be the best Fraser you can be.

There was some brief footage of the guests introducing themselves to each other and finding out what they did for a living, etc., which lends even more credence to the theory that many of these guests are just slammed together by Production and really have no relation to each other.  And one of the guests sharing what his wi-fi password was (and I won’t repeat it here) – yep, keeping it classy, Bravo (not).

But as the guests drink their way through gallons of alcohol, it seems like there actually is a connexion between them in some weird, convoluted extended family that married/coupled with exes or other relations.  Weird.  One of the women just seems to sit and frown a lot.  The men seem hell bent on out-drinking one another.

There was a big stink about the wind on the beach, but once there, it didn’t seem all that bad when the canopy was being set up.  Indeed, Fraser seems determined to think that the beach party will be a disaster, but everyone seemed to have a very good time and there were no complaints about wind.

What will happen next week?  Will one of the guests die of alcohol poisoning?  Will Ben kick Camille to the curb for the new stew?  Will Fraser stab the new stew in the back?  Will there be enough towels?  Stay tuned, if you can stay sober…

 

[RoseAllDay]

Now that it’s safe to start watching again…welcome back, Lee! I don’t think I’ve ever seen him happier. Trust me, he ain’t the only one.

What, exactly, are the relationship dynamics with this bunch? The primary’s “sister-in-law” (quotes Bravo’s) is staying with him? What was up with Olivia, who looked sad, stoned, and otherwise out of it in just about every scene? Good god, what a hard-drinking group. Cocktail pairings with lunch 🤢? Heavy boozing in the hot tub? That guy was lucky that he just slipped and fell on his ass, and not on his head. 

I see Ross is still crossing boundaries with Katie. Katie’s observations about Ben and Leigh-Ann seem to apply to her and her boss, too. Big disconnect in their THs about their relationship…

Hey, Fraser…it looks like you’ve got a competent second stew. Stow the insecurity and be grateful. You’re still in charge, bud.

 

[aghst]

Why would Fraser feel threatened?  They have 8 days of shooting left they said.

This isn't a real job either, not like he could say I was a chief stew on season 10 of Below Deck to get other Chief Stew jobs on other yachts.

For all we know, Bravo may bring him back for more seasons, so he may not have to find real yachting jobs.

Interesting that Leigh Anne who has experience working real charters, have never seen people drink as much as these guests.  So maybe people who go on these real charters don't try to drink every waking moment.  Or maybe they're not encouraged to do so by Bravo, just to make them seem interesting.

Or maybe on real charters, they don't get party animals all the time or the yachts have limit on how much alcohol you can consume before they start adding surcharges or something.

The Leigh Anne, Ben and Camille triangle seems contrived.  She is talking on camera about liking him and how she's going to go for it?

Come on with a week left, what are they talking about, maybe hook up a couple of times or plan to get together after the shooting is over?  But Ben told her he has plans with Camille after they're done shooting the season.

So she wants to be seen on TV "fighting" over a man with some woman she hasn't even met?

 

[Chatty Cake]

Glad Lee is back but this season was ruined by Sandy. 
 

[Uncle JUICE]

It might be time for a discussion about the worst episodes of this show, ever. Because recency bias has this one in the top 5 for me, without even considering it. What a shitshow. And people who drink as much as these people do aren't "cool." They're disgusting. You don't drink like that if you have any sort of healthy outlook on your life. There's just no reason to do it. This show's making the best ever argument for weed: before you can start acting like an asshole on weed, you're asleep. 

The Ross / Katie thing is a MAJOR PROBLEM for me every time I see it.  

 

[RoseAllDay]

3 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Glad Lee is back but this season was ruined by Sandy. 
 

I never get the universal love among the crews for her. Is it out of respect for her rank, or Stockholm Syndrome? Her goodbye to the crew was typical, phony, gag-inducing Sandy Yawn. Glad she and her veneers are gone. I’ve missed Lee and this season.

1 hour ago, Uncle JUICE said:

It might be time for a discussion about the worst episodes of this show, ever. Because recency bias has this one in the top 5 for me, without even considering it. What a shitshow. And people who drink as much as these people do aren't "cool." They're disgusting. You don't drink like that if you have any sort of healthy outlook on your life. There's just no reason to do it. This show's making the best ever argument for weed: before you can start acting like an asshole on weed, you're asleep. 

The Ross / Katie thing is a MAJOR PROBLEM for me every time I see it.  

 

That’s because IT IS. Ross is crossing a major line here. I’m guessing he was a favorite of Yawn’s so she turned a blind eye? From what I saw last night, Ross and Katie acted way worse than Hannah and Conrad ever did, and Sandy was all up in arms about those two.

[Mr. Miner]

Potato sack races on the beach? GTFOOH!

[pasdetrois]

On 3/6/2023 at 10:36 PM, Tanukisan said:

one of the guests sharing what his wi-fi password was

Was this perhaps the guest wifi password (issued by the yacht to its guests)?

For what it's worth, I watched a movie (Triangle of Sadness) that featured white glove service on a large yacht. The stews wore white gloves of course, and they choreographed and synchronized all of their movements, such as setting down plates and removing warmer covers in unison. One hand was behind the back when both hands were not in use.

Edited March 10, 2023 by pasdetrois

[iMonrey]

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And one of the guests sharing what his wi-fi password was (and I won’t repeat it here) – yep, keeping it classy, Bravo (not).

I'll repeat it here. He said his WiFi password is "suck my d!ck." And it wasn't bleeped. So . . . they have to bleep the word "fu¢k" but they don't have to bleep "suck my d!ck." OK then. Talk about random. 

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The Leigh Anne, Ben and Camille triangle seems contrived. 

Yes, the whole thing seems very suspicious. Also contrived: this narrative they're trying to push with Leigh-Ann being a "threat" to Fraser. She hasn't said one single thing that would support the idea. Face it, with Camille and Alissa gone, they've lost their drama.

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I never get the universal love among the crews for her. Is it out of respect for her rank, or Stockholm Syndrome? Her goodbye to the crew was typical, phony, gag-inducing Sandy Yawn. Glad she and her veneers are gone.

I watched Galley Talk before this one, and I think Kate is maybe the only one who isn't completely enamored of Sandy. She was the only one who was vocally critical of her after the beach volleyball debacle, and she just sat there stone-faced while everyone else was ooh-ing and aah-ing over the weepy goodbyes. Granted, Kate does have resting bitch face, but still. She's also the only one who has the balls to not pretend Sandy is all that.

[sugarbaker design]

12 hours ago, Tanukisan said:

Fraser – “Why are we letting guests choose what they want to do, I’ll never know, but we’ve got to cater towards their needs.”  And that, sirrah, is why you’ll never be more than a waiter.

Just for the record, there's nothing wrong with being a waiter.

[pasdetrois]

I think we know that Hannah is not a Sandy fan. The others kiss her ass so that production will consider them for future BD Med episodes.

I never thought Ben's and Camille's romance was real. But Ben will eagerly partake of any benefits it provides.

[snarts]

32 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I watched Galley Talk before this one, and I think Kate is maybe the only one who isn't completely enamored of Sandy. She was the only one who was vocally critical of her after the beach volleyball debacle, and she just sat there stone-faced while everyone else was ooh-ing and aah-ing over the weepy goodbyes. Granted, Kate does have resting bitch face, but still. She's also the only one who has the balls to not pretend Sandy is all that.

Colin also said something like "Fraser was great from the start" or "Fraser's always been great" when Sandy carried about how much he'd improved. Oh, and Julia/Josiah rarely say much about her either way.  But I agree, too many of them kiss her ass, which I can only assume means that they're waiting for that phone call/invitation back.  

Just me, or is Rachel becoming quite annoying with the constant vulgarity? It's seemingly become her schtick, just like Captain Lee and his stupid sayings. Still, happier than a pig in shit to have him back :) 

[Oosala]

That Angel guy was anything but.  What a total pig.  Ugly, dismissive, and an alcoholic.  Such a lovely combination.  "Ohh, what is it like not to be me?"  It's fantastic, you douche.

Edited March 7, 2023 by Oosala

[sugarbaker design]

1 hour ago, Oosala said:

That Angel guy was anything but.  What a total pig.  Ugly, dismissive, and an alcoholic.  Such a lovely combination.  "Ohh, what is it like not to be me?"  It's fantastic, you douche.

The worst!

[aghst]

3 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

I think we know that Hannah is not a Sandy fan. The others kiss her ass so that production will consider them for future BD Med episodes.

Or maybe they really don't have a problem with what she does.  Only Alyssa had a problem with Sandy among the crew this season.

Even Lee said that the crew are getting along well so Sandy must have done a good job, implying that the decisions to fire Camille and Alyssa were correct.

Again, I don't think it's completely up to the captain who, why and when these crew members get fired -- Jason clearly couldn't fire Benny early on -- but both Camille and Alyssa provided reasons why Sandy could make that stand.

[rur]

From the Yahoo review of the episode: 🤣

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Captain Lee is pleased to return to his crew so unified. He thinks Captain Sandy Yawn has done a great job. Little does he know she essentially tortured them until they huddled together like little ocean orphans waiting for the storm to pass. Or maybe it was the volleyball. I guess we’ll never know.

 

[gaPeach]

1 hour ago, aghst said:

Or maybe they really don't have a problem with what she does.  Only Alyssa had a problem with Sandy among the crew this season.

Even Lee said that the crew are getting along well so Sandy must have done a good job, implying that the decisions to fire Camille and Alyssa were correct.

Again, I don't think it's completely up to the captain who, why and when these crew members get fired -- Jason clearly couldn't fire Benny early on -- but both Camille and Alyssa provided reasons why Sandy could make that stand.

ITA.  I think viewers have more of an issue with Captain Sandy than the crew.  I haven't been that crazy about Captain Sandy but she was ok on this season and her decision to can both Camille and Alissa was the right thing to do.  

Glad Captain Lee is back.  And Angel is up there as one of the most annoying and disrespectful POS on BD.

[Lady of nod]

7 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Was this perhaps the guest wifi password (issued by the yacht to its guests)?

For what it's worth, I watched a movie (Triangle of Sadness) that featured white glove service on a large yacht. The stews wore white gloves of course, and they choreographic and synchronized all of their movements, such as setting down plates and removing warmer covers in unison. One hand was behind the back when both hands were not in use.

 

[Lady of nod]

The service is so not 5 star. I did a short stint at a very upscale country club. The first thing I learned was that you always served the ladies first and never cleared until the ladies are done. This was a long time ago so maybe its not the thing anymore, but it makes sense to me, especially not clearing plates one at a time, leaving some people still eating. 
Sandy ugh. Having to watch 2 seasons of her in a row was just torture. I was almost waiting for her to fire Russ and bring her sidekick Malia in. These are 2 people I never want on my screen again. 

6 hours ago, snarts said:

Colin also said something like "Fraser was great from the start" or "Fraser's always been great" when Sandy carried about how much he'd improved. Oh, and Julia/Josiah rarely say much about her either way.  But I agree, too many of them kiss her ass, which I can only assume means that they're waiting for that phone call/invitation back.  

Just me, or is Rachel becoming quite annoying with the constant vulgarity? It's seemingly become her schtick, just like Captain Lee and his stupid sayings. Still, happier than a pig in shit to have him back :) 

It’s not just you. I'm guilty of dropping plenty of f bombs, but Rachel and the farting and burping and the crap that comes out of her mouth is just disgusting. 

[MyMaui]

I do admit when Sandy was on the first episode I thought she would be ok but she ruined that observation quickly.  I agree both Camille and Alissa should have been fired but Sandy, again, was inconsistent.  One got a goodbye tour and the other was escorted off.  She was demeaning, unprofessional, and proved she played favorites.  Then to see online articles written about how she saved this season.  I'm glad she is gone.  While Captain Lee said she did great I am thinking after he watched the show he wouldn't feel the same.

The one thing that bothered me most was Ben.  He has disrespected Tony so many times with his sex with Camille in their cabin.  Tony told him to let him know but yet Ben didn't do that.  No he laughed about it.  Now he jokes about how he sleeps at night naked and his junk is in Tony's face.  WTF?  You can't put underwear on until you get on the bed and then remove it so your junk isn't in his face.  Then you laugh about it? That's not funny, especially after he has had to hear you having sex.

[iMonrey]

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Or maybe they really don't have a problem with what she does.  Only Alyssa had a problem with Sandy among the crew this season.

I find it hard to believe that everyone on that crew thought it was OK for Sandy to take them to the beach for "team building" then gather them together and essentially say "this was a failure because of Fraser." That's not team building and it had to be awkward as hell, especially for Fraser himself. I find it a lot easier to believe they are afraid to say anything because the want to remain Bravo-lebrities. I also think some of them are afraid to criticize the one and only female captain for fear of being accused of sexism. They know which side their bread is buttered on. 

[rur]

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For what it's worth, I watched a movie (Triangle of Sadness) that featured white glove service on a large yacht. The stews wore white gloves of course, and they choreographic and synchronized all of their movements, such as setting down plates and removing warmer covers in unison. One hand was behind the back when both hands were not in use.

We saw some of this in earlier seasons of BD. They'd get the deck crew to help serve, and they did choreograph the placement of plates and the removal of covers.

Interesting that those little niceties seem to have gone by the wayside as the quality of the guest has declined . . . 

[MyMaui]

46 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I find it a lot easier to believe they are afraid to say anything because the want to remain Bravo-lebrities. I also think some of them are afraid to criticize the one and only female captain for fear of being accused of sexism. They know which side their bread is buttered on. 

I totally agree with this being the reason.  Honestly if they are replacing Captain Lee, don't replace him with the Adventure guy.  Get another female Captain.  No longer make Sandy the only female. 

[aghst]

49 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I find it hard to believe that everyone on that crew thought it was OK for Sandy to take them to the beach for "team building" then gather them together and essentially say "this was a failure because of Fraser." That's not team building and it had to be awkward as hell, especially for Fraser himself. I find it a lot easier to believe they are afraid to say anything because the want to remain Bravo-lebrities. I also think some of them are afraid to criticize the one and only female captain for fear of being accused of sexism. They know which side their bread is buttered on. 

Do we know for a fact that the volleyball outing was something Sandy decided they'd do?

Or how differently Camille and Alyssa left the yacht was determined by any on-screen cast member as opposed to producers behind the scenes?

They could have had similar exits but they chose to show only Camille going to other cast before leaving. 

[MyMaui]

1 hour ago, aghst said:

Do we know for a fact that the volleyball outing was something Sandy decided they'd do?

Or how differently Camille and Alyssa left the yacht was determined by any on-screen cast member as opposed to producers behind the scenes?

They could have had similar exits but they chose to show only Camille going to other cast before leaving. 

So the producers show Sandy being a bitch on the volleyball team building thing and it was not her idea?  Sandy calls out a chief stew and the producers are behind it? The producers want to show that for her? I don't think they'd do that to her. No I think she would push back on that one.

Sandy specifically said to Ross Alissa was to be escorted off the boat and Camille was to get her things and leave.  Camille was shown giving a good by tour.  Sandy gave her room mate Katie a chance to help her move.  There were two distinct exits.  

[howiveaddict]

10 hours ago, iMonrey said:

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I watched Galley Talk before this one, and I think Kate is maybe the only one who isn't completely enamored of Sandy. She was the only one who was vocally critical of her after the beach volleyball debacle, and she just sat there stone-faced while everyone else was ooh-ing and aah-ing over the weepy goodbyes. Granted, Kate does have resting bitch face, but still. She's also the only one who has the balls to not pretend Sandy is all that.

I've heard Kate praise Sandy. But that is because she hate Hannah.  I don't think Aesha is enamored with Sandy.  After all, she's friends with Hannah.  Aesha just treats people friendly.  Bobby and Colin are deck so Sandy would have treated them well.  The galley crew who watch are Bravo employees and thus would not bad mouth a captain.

[aghst]

I just asked if you know for a fact that the volleyball was her idea.

they have to set up cameras and other production staff for any shot they do.

not saying Sandy didn’t request it and they set it up.

also these scenes have had more than one take.  Did she rehearse “being a bitch” or did she do it one one take?

[snarts]

We all know that production has a hand in crafting/editing storylines, but giving some cast members a pass under the guise of 'production made them do it' while maligning others for their behavior is illogical at best. In the immortal words of Real World's Heather B "they use what you give them" 

Nobody forces Sandy to be a petty, demeaning, unprofessional,, favorite playing, ever lurking asshole. It's just who she is. 

Edited March 8, 2023 by snarts

[Booger666]

16 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

The service is so not 5 star. I did a short stint at a very upscale country club. The first thing I learned was that you always served the ladies first and never cleared until the ladies are done. This was a long time ago so maybe its not the thing anymore, but it makes sense to me, especially not clearing plates one at a time, leaving some people still eating. 

Believe this has changed and the standard today is to not have someone with a dirty plate in front of them.  I prefer the old way.

[Rebky]

It certainly seems like Captain Lee is much more laid back now than before. I was surprised the way he laughed off not having any towels to dry off with after his shower. I did a double take! 

[iMonrey]

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Do we know for a fact that the volleyball outing was something Sandy decided they'd do?

No. But I fail to see what that has to do with Sandy calling the whole effort a failure because Fraser did not participate. 

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also these scenes have had more than one take.  Did she rehearse “being a bitch” or did she do it one one take?

I believe you are giving the show way too much credit. I do not believe the show is actually scripted to that extent. Bravo does not have writers who concoct actual scripts every week. The people hired to be crew members are not actors. I'm sure producers prompt them to do things and say things, and the dumb theme parties and theme dinners are production driven. But the crew themselves are not memorizing scripts every week like this is a soap opera. 

By the same token it's unfathomable that Sandy herself would be prompted to gather everyone together, point to Fraser and say "it's this guy's fault this team building exercise failed." I don't believe it's Bravo's intent to make Sandy look like a total bitch or they wouldn't be kissing her ass on Andy Cohen's show and on Galley Talk. I also don't believe Sandy herself wants to be perceived as such.

Sandy is just being Sandy. If anything the show is probably instructed to censor or delete some her worst behavior just to keep her viable as their token female captain. None of the other captains in this franchise come off looking like assholes. It's hard to believe Bravo purposely wants their only female captain to look like one.

Edited March 8, 2023 by iMonrey

[MyMaui]

10 hours ago, snarts said:

 

Nobody forces Sandy to be a petty, demeaning, unprofessional,, favorite playing, ever lurking asshole. It's just who she is. 

OMG  I could not love this more!

[aghst]

They don't have to feed them lines.

They shoot however many times until they can utter the words without stumbling.

Or they loop over the dialogue in post.

 

If Sandy doesn't want to be seen as a bitch as you say -- a view that may be limited to a few on this forum -- why does she keep saying the things she says?

So really, either she does want to be unpleasant and bitchy or she's being pushed to be a certain way, be harder on the cast, to push a story line about the crew not respecting the chain of command, a common trope on BD shows, because they repeatedly cast people who will ignore or challenge orders from superiors.

You think Bravo couldn't cast people who are defiant if they wanted to avoid these confrontations?  Of course they don't want people who know conflict-avoidance and de-escalation of drama.

Instead, they WANT cast who are abrasive and loud and they certainly don't want the captain to back off and quietly "manage" these personalities.

It's like in coaching, do you want the old school coach who will scream into the faces of teen college athletes or those who try to be more nurturing or at least not dressing them down in public?

 

 

[SemiCharmedLife]

After hearing that Ben and Leigh Ann have been texting for a year, I can't believe that her being hired was a happy accident.  The producers must have set this up for additional drama.  If I were Leigh Ann, I would flirt with Tony and let Ben have his less-than-happily-ever-after with Camille.

[aghst]

Yeah I wouldn't put it past them that they knew deliberately cast her.

Some acting by Ben then.  And Leigh Anne.

[Baltimore Betty]

Didn't they use the Tinder story line once before, seasons ago there was a charter with some girl and one of the deck crew (Bobby?) recognized one of the girls from being matched on Tinder?

[Uncle JUICE]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Didn't they use the Tinder story line once before, seasons ago there was a charter with some girl and one of the deck crew (Bobby?) recognized one of the girls from being matched on Tinder?

I hate myself for being able to confirm that yes, this happened, without even having to look it up. It might be time for my episode of Intervention. I am waiting for the letter from my son that starts out with "Dad, your addiction to Below Deck iterations has negatively affected my life in the following ways..."

I DON'T EVEN LIKE THIS SHOW.  

Edited March 10, 2023 by Uncle JUICE

[iMonrey]

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They don't have to feed them lines.

They shoot however many times until they can utter the words without stumbling.

That sounds like a contradiction. If they aren't reading scripted lines then why do they have to do re-takes until they get the line right? Moreover, do you have some sort of insider info from someone who works on the show or has been on the show?

It's also a contradiction to say Bravo wants Sandy to be a bitch and then hauls her out onto Andy Cohen's show and kisses her ass like she's America's Sweetheart. Either she's Bravo's villain or she's the Captain everyone loves. She's not "the captain we love to hate." Nobody ever says that.

[aghst]

Just now, iMonrey said:

That sounds like a contradiction. If they aren't reading scripted lines then why do they have to do re-takes until they get the line right? Moreover, do you have some sort of insider info from someone who works on the show or has been on the show?

It's also a contradiction to say Bravo wants Sandy to be a bitch and then hauls her out onto Andy Cohen's show and kisses her ass like she's America's Sweetheart. Either she's Bravo's villain or she's the Captain everyone loves. She's not "the captain we love to hate." Nobody ever says that.

I said OR they loop in dialogue in post.

I know that they were doing multiple takes on shows like Laguna Beach, The Hills and some more recent MTV shows.

The captain could be a potted plant, stay above the drama or they could be in the mix, add to the drama.

Andy has on both villains and sweethearts on his show doesn't he?

 

[pasdetrois]

SAG-AFTRA is specific about what actors do vs, say, non-union extras. Down to whether an actor has a reaction shot (such as a quick facial reaction) vs being one of many in a crowd. New actors strive for a single, scripted line and then hopefully more lines and roles. These levels tie back to compensation and union enrollment.

Reality TV, with its non-union participants, has to be careful not to cross boundaries into true acting with written scripts, which only union actors can do. (Originally it was believed that this approach would be cheaper than a typical TV or movie production. It's been said that the genesis of reality TV was the writers' strikes, which deprived studios of scripts and shut down all production.) So now we have the heavily "scripted" housewives, deck crews, etc. working with production to shape and deliver their planned storylines within those boundaries. They can re-shoot planned activity repeatedly, such as sashaying into a room, kissing, or throwing drinks at somebody, without violating the parameters. They or producers can suggest they say something, and try it different ways, but they aren't handed written scripts. I'm assuming that production folks - camera operators, sound engineers, lighting techs - are from the technical unions.

If I recall correctly, looping is when a union actor reads his scripted lines in a controlled setting in a studio, which is not the same thing as what reality TV production does. The reality TV editors clearly do lift recorded video and audio and move it around, clean it up technically, enhance it with effects, and so on, and meet broadcast technical standards. I think it was a production member who recorded that "move your boat" conversation with Sandy, both of them improvising.

Sometimes it's obvious when they re-record audio, or add new audio, because the viewer can hear the change in sound.

 

Edited March 12, 2023 by pasdetrois

[aghst]

Sandy for one thing said she did not hear Alyssa saying the captain sucks deck dick, says it was all editing.

Does that mean Alyssa said it at some point on the yacht or they recorded her in post?

 

[JH Lipton]

On 3/7/2023 at 3:57 PM, iMonrey said:

I also think some of them are afraid to criticize the one and only female captain for fear of being accused of sexism. 

Blatant racism is so much easier to exploit,

[DrSparkles]

On 3/7/2023 at 9:59 AM, Mr. Miner said:

Potato sack races on the beach? GTFOOH!

AND  CORN  HOLE?!?!???!?

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 3/10/2023 at 7:48 AM, Uncle JUICE said:

I hate myself for being able to confirm that yes, this happened, without even having to look it up. It might be time for my episode of Intervention. I am waiting for the letter from my son that starts out with "Dad, your addiction to Below Deck iterations has negatively affected my life in the following ways..."

I DON'T EVEN LIKE THIS SHOW.  

Just know we love you like crazy.

[RedHawk]

 

On 3/8/2023 at 10:41 AM, Booger666 said:

Believe this has changed and the standard today is to not have someone with a dirty plate in front of them.  I prefer the old way.

Maybe because now some people see them as "dirty" plates rather than plates with some uneaten food (or "cleaned" plates if empty). I think it's rude to remove plates while others are eating. Reminds me of my mom jumping up to start washing dishes two seconds after she'd finished her own dinner. It pushes the others to finish quickly and interrupts whatever pleasant conversation is underway. I can see many restaurants pushing this in order to turn the table more quickly but I think in truly fine dining it always should be a huge NO.

I read or saw somewhere that when dining with Queen Elizabeth II (and apparently it began with some monarch before her), once she finishes a course and then her meal, everyone else must put their forks down, and the plates are removed, no matter how much is left on each plate. I can actually see why such protocol is followed, don't want the monarch sitting there idly waiting for the slowest eater to finish -- and to be fair to her I heard that she on purpose ate slowly -- but maybe strict adherence to that is something King Charles will leave in the bin of history. I haven't hosted a dinner party in a while but now I recall that it's good manners for the host to eat slowly and notice  the other guests' pace so as not to finish eating ahead of them.

On 3/8/2023 at 2:35 PM, Rebky said:

It certainly seems like Captain Lee is much more laid back now than before. I was surprised the way he laughed off not having any towels to dry off with after his shower. I did a double take! 

I didn't quite understand the "I had to dry clean myself" comment. He said he had "nothing" in his shower so I thought he meant no soap, body wash, shampoo, or even conditioner that he could suds up with, so essentially he just went in and out of the water. It seems like he would have noticed no towels before he got into the shower, and been mighty steamed about it as well. He really was just that happy to be back.

On 3/10/2023 at 11:52 AM, iMonrey said:

That sounds like a contradiction. If they aren't reading scripted lines then why do they have to do re-takes until they get the line right? Moreover, do you have some sort of insider info from someone who works on the show or has been on the show?

Another Bravo reality show has filmed twice at my friend's place of business. She says they did indeed shoot "retakes" sometimes and try saying things differently or to get different angles but there was no script.

Edited March 14, 2023 by RedHawk

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On 3/7/2023 at 11:18 AM, sugarbaker design said:

Just for the record, there's nothing wrong with being a waiter.

or a person who cleans toilets.  It's hard work and important jobs, IMO. 

So glad Lee came back.  Sandy was very annoying.