Milestone Moments: All The Celebrity Vitals

[Blergh]

4 hours ago, roamyn said:

I called her Mrs. Hackman, too.  I didn't realize she went Arakawa.  I'm sure many have made that mistake when discussing this case. 

Thank you! Since the two spouses died at least under the same roof, I was talking about them as a duo - not in any way belittling or diminishing Ms. Arakawa's achievements. Perhaps I am more conventional than many .Hence, unless I know that there is  evidence to the contrary re their personal preferences (e.g.  Ms. Steinem instead of Mrs. Bale), I refer to female spouses of hetero couples as 'Mrs. X' instead of 'Ms. Y'.

P.S. With the above said, however, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it turned out that at SOME point in their union Ms. Arakawa may have attempted to up her clout by referring herself re her spouse's surname (e.g. 'Hello Dan Tana's? Could you please reserve your best table for a party of six tomorrow night at 8? This is Mrs. Gene Hackman!')

P.P.S. Regardless of what surname/s used, it's a horrible tragedy that no one bothered to check up on this couple for no less than a week's time after their demises!

[tearknee]

Hey if Virginia O'Hanlon's kid descendants can get cuts in line at Santa's Villages in multiple local malls ;)

[Notabug]

On 2/27/2025 at 5:45 PM, tearknee said:

Never mind

Edited 14 hours ago by Notabug

[Bastet]

4 hours ago, Blergh said:

Hence, unless I know that there is  evidence to the contrary re their personal preferences (e.g.  Ms. Steinem instead of Mrs. Bale), I refer to female spouses of hetero couples as 'Mrs. X' instead of 'Ms. Y'.

I refer to people by their actual names unless I have personal knowledge they prefer something else, or have used another name interchangeably. I have no exception for "unless they're a woman who married a man [even though in the nearly 35 years since the wedding she never changed her name]".  I would no more call Betsy Arakawa "Mrs. Hackman" than I'd call Gene Hackman "Mr. Arakawa" based solely on the existence of the marriage; her name was her name, period, and here there's the additional fact she wasn't "just" his wife, she had her own career so her name was publicly known [in certain circles, nowhere near as widely as his] professionally as well as personally.

And, with that, I'll step away from this flogged horse.

Edited 9 hours ago by Bastet

[tearknee]

34 minutes ago, Bastet said:

I refer to people by their actual names unless I have personal knowledge they prefer something else, or have used another name interchangeably. I have no exception for "unless they're a woman who married a man [even though in the nearly 35 years since the wedding she never changed her name]".  I would no more call Betsy Arakawa "Mrs. Hackman" than I'd call Gene Hackman "Mr. Arakawa" based solely on the existence of the marriage; her name was her name, period, and here there's the additional fact she wasn't "just" his wife; she had her own career so her name was publicly known [in certain circles, nowhere near as widely as his] professionally as well as personally.

And, with that, I'll step away from this flogged horse.

That's thinking intellectually and in the abstract. Real people 'on the street' think with emotion.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by tearknee

[DearEvette]

So my husband and I are in the car with some random satellite station on and this song comes on.  We have never heard it before but it was one of those songs that transported you instantly to the 80s and was pretty catchy/campy.  We weren't even paying attention to the lyrics, just the vibe of the song.  My husband said 'We have to Shazam this.  I need to know what this is. It sounds like if Human League and the Pet Shop Boys collaborated on a gay anthem'.  Again we were not paying any attention to the lyrics at all.  We sat there car dancing to it goofily.

So Shazam it we did and it turned out to be a song called 'Swaheto Woman' by David Johansen.  Mind you the lyrics were in no way a gay anthem, LOL. They were telling this woman she was beautiful and strong and would be free.  But my husband's description fit so well the music of it.

Anways, RIP David Johansen.

[Soapy Goddess]

10 hours ago, Blergh said:

Regardless of what surname/s used, it's a horrible tragedy that no one bothered to check up on this couple for no less than a week's time after their demises!

I agree. And IMO, you should not have been scolded for your choice of surname. Because in the end, whether the public likes it or not, she IS Mrs. Hackman.

9 hours ago, Bastet said:

I refer to people by their actual names unless I have personal knowledge they prefer something else, or have used another name interchangeably. I have no exception for "unless they're a woman who married a man [even though in the nearly 35 years since the wedding she never changed her name]". 

Where do you get off telling people on a public forum what they can say and what surname a poster uses? What nerve to call someone out on a public forum! 🙄

Edited 3 hours ago by Soapy Goddess

[tearknee]

Both groups (far left and far right) are like that - but the far left have that horrible tendency to belligerent self-righteousness. Again, a sex worker has a choice.

What happened to me because of a "mother" who saw her daughter as a way to achieve her own failed childhood dream and a Hollywood that devours its children, was not.