S06.E06: Hot and Bothered

[bros402]

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In the midst of a heatwave, Dr. Shaun Murphy and Dr. Danica Powell are at odds when it comes to their patient's surgery; when the hospital loses power, Lea and Dr. Aaron Glassman are forced to come up with a quick solution.

[bros402]

This episode was a bit uneven. So since we didn't get a Shaun-Lea baby, we're going to get a Reznick baby?

Also, uhhhh, intern with a prosthetic shouldn't just be telling Lim what to do with PT - Lim knows better than her about her own body. Paralysis and loss of a limb are totally different. But she had a good point with Shaun that he just refuses to recognize - that they are the others in the hospital.

Really? They have to make Lim's love interest a guy in a wheelchair? 

Edited November 22, 2022 by bros402

[Kleav]

I don't know why Asher and Morgan were so sure that the lawyer would be angry that they'd taken his father to the hospital. He knew his father had wandered off; why would he be angry that two doctors had taken care of him?

[Annber03]

Rather quiet 100th episode in terms of major drama or storylines, but in some ways, that's kind of welcome, too. The most dramatic thing was the news about Morgan, which is interesting. I did like the close up of the cake that said "Happy 100th", that was cute :). 

It was nice to see Lim getting out and having a bit of fun. And Jordan and Daniel's storyline with their patient was sweet and sad. Also, it's been ages since I've had butterscotch pudding, and this episode made me hungry for some :p. 

I liked Shaun and Powell ultimately bonding over their interest in the history of surgery. I'd go to that museum! It sounds cool. 

[Avabelle]

Even though Shawn acted like a jackass for most of the episode that interns superior attitude has rubbed me up the wrong way since she arrived. She acts like she’s an attending.

I thought we were getting a few hints at a Park/Morgan reunion but I think I’d rather watch her have a baby than grovel about how she’ll change and be a better person to the holier than thou Park. 

[greekmom]

2 hours ago, Avabelle said:

Even though Shawn acted like a jackass for most of the episode that interns superior attitude has rubbed me up the wrong way since she arrived. She acts like she’s an attending.

I thought we were getting a few hints at a Park/Morgan reunion but I think I’d rather watch her have a baby than grovel about how she’ll change and be a better person to the holier than thou Park. 

This. Especially with her advice to Lim. I agree with Shaun even though he was a jerk this episode. Lim should have the surgery. 

[Madding crowd]

I really don’t like or understand Dr. Powell; she acts like she is in charge of everyone. It’s not her right to tell Dr. Lim to stop PT. And she isn’t right that it’s Shaun’s job to listen to her ideas. She is there to learn, not teach. I liked the Happy 100 cake.

[izabella]

Lim's paralysis is still a major mystery to me.  I still do not understand why Sean's operation on her stab wounds led to paralysis.  I do not understand what sort of paralysis it is if it isn't a severed spinal cord and they can do an operation that would likely repair the issue.  Is there a blockage of some kind?  Blood vessels that could be repaired? 

In this episode, we have Sean saying that the longer she waits, the less likely the surgery would work.  Why?  Is her issue progressive?  Will waiting calcify something that could be repaired now but not later?  Is it something that will get worse the more she moves around?  Or does it get worse the more she sits still?  I'm so frustrated they built an entire season around her paralysis, yet her paralysis is so muddled and unexplained, so none of the story lines are making sense to me.

Is playing basketball where Lim is knocked over with a wheelchair on top of her, or another person and their wheelchair landing on her as well, something that could make her condition worse?   I am stunned that Danica is just willy-nilly guiding Lim against PT and into sports.   No, Lim is not "sick" as Danica said, but it seems like it isn't a good idea to risk further injury under any circumstances, and especially not if Lim is still considering having the surgery.

[thuganomics85]

Surprisingly quiet episode for the 100th.  No major revelations, no surprise cameos, etc.  Really felt like your average episode more or less, which I guess isn't the worst thing to happen ever.

Not surprised that Shaun would be at his worse once he found out that Powell was the one who convinced Lim not to do his surgery.  While they generally just don't seem mesh well, he was obviously going to be taking it personally, wherever he wanted to admit it out loud or not.  That said, Powell does seem to act like she's on the same level as him and everyone else, and while I guess that level of confidence can have some benefits, it really isn't surprising it's going to cause friction: especially with someone like Shaun.  I guess it was nice that they were able to put it aside for a bit and even found "common ground" due to their love for surgical history, but I can see this flaring up again. But as Glassman pretty much said, Shaun might just have to accept that he has to work with people that he simply doesn't like.

As for the stuff with Powell/Lim, yeah, while I'm not agains the idea of Lim trying to move forward and not let her injury define her, Powell pushing for her to just forget about PT and everything seems a bit much.  Feels like she might be pushing Lim too fast here.

Liked how this episode seemed to pair off characters we don't see that much.  Glassman/Park.  Reznick/Asher.  Andrews/Lea.

Loved that the actor playing the guy Reznick and Asher "kidnapped" was the same guy who played the annoying old neighbor on Peacemaker.  Even gets to show off some sweet dancing skills on that show's opening credits!

[Driad]

The museum that Danica Powell mentioned is the International Museum of Surgical Science in Chicago.  Adding it to my list!

[circumvent]

15 hours ago, bros402 said:

Really? They have to make Lim's love interest a guy in a wheelchair? 

But it is soooo inspirational! They are in a wheelchair and they DO STUFF! They FLIRT! Just like real people!

[Starchild]

15 hours ago, Annber03 said:

It was nice to see Lim getting out and having a bit of fun.

Was she though? She never once seemed like it to me. Her whole vibe seemed like, "I wish I'd never come."

Now this is the version of Glassman that doesn't piss me off. He's Shaun's father figure (as Lea pointed out), Shaun came to him for advice and instead of lecturing Shaun on how he needs to figure it out for himself, he gave some. Like any father figure would for his protege at any time in his life, ffs. Let's hope emo-Glassman never returns.

[CarpeFelis]

16 hours ago, Kleav said:

I don't know why Asher and Morgan were so sure that the lawyer would be angry that they'd taken his father to the hospital. He knew his father had wandered off; why would he be angry that two doctors had taken care of him?

That was my thought as well. The guy was wandering around in 100+ degree heat and they took him to an air conditioned hospital. What would the son really have to complain about?

[greekmom]

9 hours ago, izabella said:

Lim's paralysis is still a major mystery to me.  I still do not understand why Sean's operation on her stab wounds led to paralysis.  I do not understand what sort of paralysis it is if it isn't a severed spinal cord and they can do an operation that would likely repair the issue.  Is there a blockage of some kind?  Blood vessels that could be repaired? 

In this episode, we have Sean saying that the longer she waits, the less likely the surgery would work.  Why?  Is her issue progressive?  Will waiting calcify something that could be repaired now but not later?  Is it something that will get worse the more she moves around?  Or does it get worse the more she sits still?  I'm so frustrated they built an entire season around her paralysis, yet her paralysis is so muddled and unexplained, so none of the story lines are making sense to me.

It's a mystery to all of us. I think the fact that Lim isn't using muscles and the longer she goes without using them the harder it will be for her to bounce back. (I'm speculating since I'm not a doctor). 

3 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

As for the stuff with Powell/Lim, yeah, while I'm not agains the idea of Lim trying to move forward and not let her injury define her, Powell pushing for her to just forget about PT and everything seems a bit much.  Feels like she might be pushing Lim too fast here.

Powell sure acts high and mighty for a first year resident. She hasn't even experienced Shaun at his "Shauness" (you know how he does that whole thinking thing). But I agree - how does Powell know better than the PT ? I mean the therapist herself or himself would tell Lim, "hey I've gotten you to where you got to go and you don't need to come in."

[KaveDweller]

Why does it feel like Powell is grooming Lim to join some kind of cult? I get encouraging Lim to move on, but how is physical therapy bad? Especially for someone newly paralyzed? It seems like she could try and move on but still let her doctor tell her if she needs therapy still?

I guess they found a storyline for Morgan. But honestly, having a baby because you feel lonely doesn't seem like the best idea in the world. 

[racked]

1 hour ago, KaveDweller said:

Why does it feel like Powell is grooming Lim to join some kind of cult? I get encouraging Lim to move on, but how is physical therapy bad? Especially for someone newly paralyzed? It seems like she could try and move on but still let her doctor tell her if she needs therapy still?

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It really does feel like that! So bizarre but I need the show to stop presenting this like Powell is right. At the very least PT would help Lim develop her upper body strength but Powell somehow knows best. I like the actress but the character is not great

Why is Lea the only person in IT at this huge hospital? 

Edited November 23, 2022 by racked

[Diana Berry]

I see Leah in a romance with the head honcho doctor.  They were too friendly,

Edited November 23, 2022 by Diana Berry

[bros402]

8 hours ago, circumvent said:

But it is soooo inspirational! They are in a wheelchair and they DO STUFF! They FLIRT! Just like real people!

The Disabled: They're JUST like us!

[circumvent]

I agree with everyone here about Powell. She is arrogant and full of herself while in a job that usually gets people burned out just from the hours of work. They don't have two hours to spend giving bad advice to people. And an attending doesn't have to listen to them either. She says that Shaun is there to teach her but them she goes around and discharge Lim from her PT. Like already said, if Lim is still having PT it is because she needs to learn how to use the rest of her body. There are many complications that can come after a paralysis if they are not addressed, at least observed by a professional specialist. On the other hand, since they got Lim in that fancy wheelchair and being completely badass only a few months after her surgery, maybe she has some superpower in the self-healing department

I don't like Jordan very much. I hated the condescending voice telling the woman that she had hours to live. That's absolutely not how you deliver the news. There is no urgency to do that and since the woman seemed to be having some cognitive issues, the correct way was to find a relative, if none available, call a social worker. It was heartless and unnecessary.

The whole think with Morgan and what's-his-name was silly. Again, how many of you know a doctor who grabs a another doctor, a resident, and go driving around looking for a patient they don't even know the face of? Why does the writing have to be so bad? Because they need the subplot of a father picking up the old man with a child and then make Morgan maternal instincts kick in? Or because they don't trust the actors to deliver the lines unless they pretend to be doing some physical activity, like driving? Why not having them stuck in a elevator and talk? Dialogues while sitting are acting too. 

The Leah's plot was also ridiculous and useless for the show's moving forward. Just a filler without a point. The show is really bad at this point. There is nothing resembling Shaun's initial premise, all they left him with was his annoyance at people and his tantrums that are unrealistic for someone who is where he is in life. The rest turned into an inspo-porn soap opera with bad actors and bad characters that forget they are surgeons in a hospital. My ability to suspend disbelief and go with the story is fading fast - things like the need for surgeries that are decided without no more than one test, and then happen without any concern for insurance authorizing or the need for patients to fast before anesthesia, plus surgeons that meddle in patient's lives way too much and perform surgeries either because the doctors wants or because the patient demands (haha, good one show. Try this in real life and see what your doctor says. unless it is all about the money, they will tell you to find another doctor)

The cake in the end was a nice way to shout out to the 100th episode. If only the episode had lived up to it...

[sadie]

A hospital this size has one IT person? Leah? Umm okay. Of all the stuff not rooted in reality on this show but this one bugs me the most. It’s just stupid. 

[Daff]

On 11/22/2022 at 12:55 AM, Kleav said:

I don't know why Asher and Morgan were so sure that the lawyer would be angry that they'd taken his father to the hospital. He knew his father had wandered off; why would he be angry that two doctors had taken care of him?

We live in a highly litigious society. Luckily, the son was grateful, rather than vengeful. 

[Daff]

17 hours ago, Starchild said:

Was she though? She never once seemed like it to me. Her whole vibe seemed like, "I wish I'd never come."

I took it as Lim being shocked at the fact that their version of basketball was such a contact sport. In fact, I’ve never seen it played that aggressively. To her credit, she took the toppling with surprisingly good humor. Even on her feet, she strikes me as someone who would prefer singular sports over team sports. I think she’ll enjoy the tennis more. 

[circumvent]

A question for someone who knows more than I do - which is not much: Do people who have prosthetics put themselves in a wheelchair to play basketball with people who are paralyzed? I would think that people with prosthetics would play the game standing and running, not sitting on wheelchairs. 

[Daff]

1 hour ago, circumvent said:

A question for someone who knows more than I do - which is not much: Do people who have prosthetics put themselves in a wheelchair to play basketball with people who are paralyzed? I would think that people with prosthetics would play the game standing and running, not sitting on wheelchairs. 

I wouldn’t think so. After all, you see vets with prosthetic legs out there running marathons. To show Powell limping off on hers (and it seems only an occasional limp) seems to be unrealistic, given today’s state of the art. 

[possibilities]

Lim might benefit from on-going PT o keep her muscles from atrophying and her tendons from shortening-- not just because her injury is relatively new, but because that's the way it goes. Range of motion, passive stretching, and other resistance exercises are actually good for people at any stage of life, and amputation is very different than paralysis.

This entire storyline enrages me to the point where I don't know how much longer I can continue watching.

I want them to portray disabled people as 3 dimensional and having full lives and not being pathetic and miserable. But Powell is unlikable, arrogant, and frankly doesn't know what the hell she is talking about. I don't blame Shaun for disliking her. She's disrespectful, rude, and full of herself. And Lim would have plenty of access to other people whose situations are more relevant to hers, and all the research and knowledge about her situation that anyone on the planet could want. For her to just listen to some first year newbie is implausible and bizarre.

I actually don't have an opinion about whether Lim should have the surgery because I have no idea what the surgery is. Are there risks? Is it one of those things that might work but might do some kind of damage? If there are trade-offs, that's something worth debating. But they don't explain any of this.

I think Morgan as a mother is absurd. I can't see her putting up with a crying baby or a kid who isn't exactly what she wants. But hey-- females! On TV, the only hole you can have in your life is a baby, if you're female. I thought she was regretting not taking that job she wanted, which she gave up for Park, thus stalling her career. She's always been shown to put her career ambitions first, and the one time she didn't do that, she lost out. So now she's evidently given up on her career and instead wants to be a mother. Who writes this stuff?

It terrifies me to think the hospital only has a few hours worth of generator back up. And that their air conditioning can't keep up with a heat wave. 

I do like that they showed that heat can be a very serious danger. People understand that you can die of hypothermia or get frostbite, that freezing to death is a real problem. But heat is less well understood as a critical health threat, I think, thus we have emergency heating assistance in winter but no cooling subsidies in summer. 

Sending SURGEONS to look for a missing patient made me laugh. Whoever would be dispatched to do a search, it wouldn't be a team of surgeons and it wouldn't be without a photo. Also, the nursing home that brought in the patients would have records of who has family and how to contact them, but nobody asked I guess.

TV and movies are unrealistic. You have to handwave a certain amount of stuff to enjoy them. But this show is getting on my nerves more and more every week.

[nlkm9]

Seriously, lim just had a severe injury and she is playing basketball? I guess Liam’s neighbor is just gone? I truly despaired the new rude dr. Unacceptable behavior .

[KaveDweller]

14 hours ago, sadie said:

A hospital this size has one IT person? Leah? Umm okay. Of all the stuff not rooted in reality on this show but this one bugs me the most. It’s just stupid. 

There must be more, because Leah recently told Shaun about he has to learn to delegate, like she does.

Maybe they were on vacation for this episode?

Edited November 24, 2022 by KaveDweller

[Calvada]

If they ever discover my heart is screwed up in multiple ways that can't be fully diagnosed without opening me up and then spitballing solutions, please, please, please have a couple experienced cardiac surgeons in the room, not a first year resident.   

If a patient is missing from the hospital in 100+ heat, call 911 and get a Silver Alert issued.  Having 2 of your doctors leave the hospital to drive around and look for the guy, especially when you've just been inundated with patients, doesn't seem like the best decision.  

I appreciated the story line with the dying woman because there are times when nothing can be done other than ensuring their last hours are pain-free.  There's not a miracle cure for everyone.  However, in this crisis, having 2 doctors devote the majority of their time with the patient was totally unrealistic.  It's more likely that a nurse would be checking on and interacting with this patient.  

[bros402]

19 hours ago, circumvent said:

I agree with everyone here about Powell. She is arrogant and full of herself while in a job that usually gets people burned out just from the hours of work. They don't have two hours to spend giving bad advice to people. And an attending doesn't have to listen to them either. She says that Shaun is there to teach her but them she goes around and discharge Lim from her PT. Like already said, if Lim is still having PT it is because she needs to learn how to use the rest of her body. There are many complications that can come after a paralysis if they are not addressed, at least observed by a professional specialist. On the other hand, since they got Lim in that fancy wheelchair and being completely badass only a few months after her surgery, maybe she has some superpower in the self-healing department

I don't like Jordan very much. I hated the condescending voice telling the woman that she had hours to live. That's absolutely not how you deliver the news. There is no urgency to do that and since the woman seemed to be having some cognitive issues, the correct way was to find a relative, if none available, call a social worker. It was heartless and unnecessary.

The whole think with Morgan and what's-his-name was silly. Again, how many of you know a doctor who grabs a another doctor, a resident, and go driving around looking for a patient they don't even know the face of? Why does the writing have to be so bad? Because they need the subplot of a father picking up the old man with a child and then make Morgan maternal instincts kick in? Or because they don't trust the actors to deliver the lines unless they pretend to be doing some physical activity, like driving? Why not having them stuck in a elevator and talk? Dialogues while sitting are acting too. 

The Leah's plot was also ridiculous and useless for the show's moving forward. Just a filler without a point. The show is really bad at this point. There is nothing resembling Shaun's initial premise, all they left him with was his annoyance at people and his tantrums that are unrealistic for someone who is where he is in life. The rest turned into an inspo-porn soap opera with bad actors and bad characters that forget they are surgeons in a hospital. My ability to suspend disbelief and go with the story is fading fast - things like the need for surgeries that are decided without no more than one test, and then happen without any concern for insurance authorizing or the need for patients to fast before anesthesia, plus surgeons that meddle in patient's lives way too much and perform surgeries either because the doctors wants or because the patient demands (haha, good one show. Try this in real life and see what your doctor says. unless it is all about the money, they will tell you to find another doctor)

The cake in the end was a nice way to shout out to the 100th episode. If only the episode had lived up to it...

All of this!

I also liked how Lea's servers just magically started to shut down one at a time, they were even in a row!

6 hours ago, possibilities said:

Lim might benefit from on-going PT o keep her muscles from atrophying and her tendons from shortening-- not just because her injury is relatively new, but because that's the way it goes. Range of motion, passive stretching, and other resistance exercises are actually good for people at any stage of life, and amputation is very different than paralysis.

This entire storyline enrages me to the point where I don't know how much longer I can continue watching.

I want them to portray disabled people as 3 dimensional and having full lives and not being pathetic and miserable. But Powell is unlikable, arrogant, and frankly doesn't know what the hell she is talking about. I don't blame Shaun for disliking her. She's disrespectful, rude, and full of herself. And Lim would have plenty of access to other people whose situations are more relevant to hers, and all the research and knowledge about her situation that anyone on the planet could want. For her to just listen to some first year newbie is implausible and bizarre.

I actually don't have an opinion about whether Lim should have the surgery because I have no idea what the surgery is. Are there risks? Is it one of those things that might work but might do some kind of damage? If there are trade-offs, that's something worth debating. But they don't explain any of this.

I think Morgan as a mother is absurd. I can't see her putting up with a crying baby or a kid who isn't exactly what she wants. But hey-- females! On TV, the only hole you can have in your life is a baby, if you're female. I thought she was regretting not taking that job she wanted, which she gave up for Park, thus stalling her career. She's always been shown to put her career ambitions first, and the one time she didn't do that, she lost out. So now she's evidently given up on her career and instead wants to be a mother. Who writes this stuff?

It terrifies me to think the hospital only has a few hours worth of generator back up. And that their air conditioning can't keep up with a heat wave. 

I do like that they showed that heat can be a very serious danger. People understand that you can die of hypothermia or get frostbite, that freezing to death is a real problem. But heat is less well understood as a critical health threat, I think, thus we have emergency heating assistance in winter but no cooling subsidies in summer. 

Sending SURGEONS to look for a missing patient made me laugh. Whoever would be dispatched to do a search, it wouldn't be a team of surgeons and it wouldn't be without a photo. Also, the nursing home that brought in the patients would have records of who has family and how to contact them, but nobody asked I guess.

TV and movies are unrealistic. You have to handwave a certain amount of stuff to enjoy them. But this show is getting on my nerves more and more every week.

Just join me in my hate watch corner over here.

I would love if this show had disabled people portrayed realistically, but just look at Shaun and you see how the show does it.

They've shown in the past how Morgan would be a horrible mother, I don't understand it!

Maybe after this episode, Lea will get Andrews to have the hospital invest in solar panels? That'd be nice.

I think the entire staff of the nursing home must've just decided to go home and take a nap once all of their residents were in the hospital.

[brazenB83]

On 11/22/2022 at 5:57 PM, CarpeFelis said:

That was my thought as well. The guy was wandering around in 100+ degree heat and they took him to an air conditioned hospital. What would the son really have to complain about?

I thought the same thing. Morgan and Asher freaking out over maybe being jailed for kidnapping the old man was a bit much - though the scene where the lawyer grandson and the little girl were reunited with him was pretty touching.

[ForReal]

On 11/23/2022 at 7:31 AM, Daff said:

On 11/25/2022 at 9:40 AM, brazenB83 said:

I thought the same thing. Morgan and Asher freaking out over maybe being jailed for kidnapping the old man was a bit much - though the scene where the lawyer grandson and the little girl were reunited with him was pretty touching.

On 11/22/2022 at 2:57 PM, CarpeFelis said:

That was my thought as well. The guy was wandering around in 100+ degree heat and they took him to an air conditioned hospital. What would the son really have to complain about?

We live in a highly litigious society. Luckily, the son was grateful, rather than vengeful. 

I bet my husband that the lawyer grandson would be a new love interest for Morgan. That's about the kind of story I expect from the show at this point.

[circumvent]

30 minutes ago, ForReal said:

I bet my husband that the lawyer grandson would be a new love interest for Morgan. That's about the kind of story I expect from the show at this point.

I am pretty sure they just had that story, and had the little girl come to the hospital with the father, to make Morgan feel the bug of motherhood. You know, all women want children, they just need time to realize that. Also, all women can only fee whole when they experience motherhood 🙄

[Court]

On 11/22/2022 at 8:09 PM, racked said:

It really does feel like that! So bizarre but I need the show to stop presenting this like Powell is right. At the very least PT would help Lim develop her upper body strength but Powell somehow knows best. I like the actress but the character is not great

Why is Lea the only person in IT at this huge hospital? 

Yes to all this. I don't like Powell either and I hate this whole storyline. 

Why is the IT person even in charge of electricity? I didn't get that either. 

Actually I hated this episode. 

[WinJet0819]

This episode was a chore to watch.

This whole reality where surgeons do EVERYTHING in this show's universe really made no sense in this episode, and why attending physicians are sorely needed. Surgeons are having to look after elderly patients in a heatwave, when nurses and physicians would do that. Surgeons are making dying patients comfortable, instead of an oncologist.

Sticking Jordan and Daniel together on another case could not be any more obvious. It's getting tired. Shaun was a jackass and he needs to learn to be a teacher. Powell is a know-it-all, but her point rings true about how Shaun, more than anyone, should know what it's like to be the other. And Powell really needs to stop advising Lim. As others have mentioned, Powell's situation is nothing close to Lim's. She's not dying, but she needs PT to maintain her upper-body strength. Playing sports is not a bad thing, but Lim shouldn't just shove her PT to the side to do it.

And it would be great if Morgan's pursuit of having a baby puts the whole chance of a reconciliation with Park to bed.

But overall, for a 100th episode, it was pretty underwhelming. It just felt like filler episode.

[WinJet0819]

On 11/22/2022 at 7:09 PM, racked said:

It really does feel like that! So bizarre but I need the show to stop presenting this like Powell is right. At the very least PT would help Lim develop her upper body strength but Powell somehow knows best. I like the actress but the character is not great

Why is Lea the only person in IT at this huge hospital? 

Probably the same contrived reason why the surgeons are the only ones that are able to take care of the elderly residents.

[brazenB83]

On 11/26/2022 at 12:00 PM, ForReal said:

I bet my husband that the lawyer grandson would be a new love interest for Morgan. That's about the kind of story I expect from the show at this point.

Oh, this would be interesting; hopefully you’re right. I’d like to see this over Morgan getting back together with Park or finding an anonymous sperm donor. Plus she can be a “stepmom” to the little girl before deciding whether or not kids are for her.