S15.E20: Where Are They Now: San Diego

[Emma Snyder]

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Five months after decision day, the San Diego couples navigate their new reality as they move forward with their relationships and lives.  While one couple is on the verge of separation, another struggles to see eye to eye as they contemplate a major decision.  After an explosive reunion, tensions are still high among the group as they all reunite one last time to say goodbye to one of their own.

Airs Wednesday November 16 at 8:00PM EST.

[mythoughtis]

Why can’t Miguel and Lindy just rent a bigger place for now. Put off buying a home for a year or so while the housing market ( and their marriage) stabilizes. In addition, he gets so odd about planning  any kind of a future. 
why make Kristen pretend to be the host of the producer driven ‘ where are they now’ get together - just admit it’s producer driven. 

Edited November 17, 2022 by mythoughtis

[endure]

Oh yeah, yet another rehash?  I think we've had more than enough this season.  I used to like Krysten but I can barely stand her now.  Is she an 'expert' now - dropping in on Nate to get the scoop on his relationship or maybe checking him out?  She was all dolled up with lipstick and make-up and I have to agree with Mitch here, she looks a lot better natural.  This episode seems so phoney and forced. I doubt I can get through this to be honest. 🙄🥱😵

Edited November 17, 2022 by endure

[mythoughtis]

I have to side  with Nate on the constant barrage of open up, open up.  Stacia needs to accept him as is, just as she wants to be accepted for herself.  She doesn’t  want to  stop being herself  and she can’t expect him to either 

Painting with black paint above white carpet.   
He opens up and she criticizes because he’s not planning as much as she is. 
 

pole dancing and Alexis’s ‘costume’ 

Edited November 17, 2022 by mythoughtis

[LakeGal]

I just want to throw a blanket over Alexis.  I am so sick of her look-at-me outfits with her boobs out all the time.  

[mythoughtis]

I don’t like Justin, but I don’t like Alexis either.  Neither of them have any self control with their words. 

Edited November 17, 2022 by mythoughtis
Because I do know how to spell Alexis

[Elizzikra]

I am so relieved to see that Mya has a muzzle on in public! 

Also - anyone here know anything about San Diego real estate? That house that Lindy and Miguel visited, that's about a $1 million home, right? Or it's not in San Diego? I thought it was cute but I don't see how they can afford it, especially if a) Lindy doesn't work full-time and b) they have a kid.

Edited November 17, 2022 by Elizzikra

[endure]

Alexis and Kristen are such hypocrites and they both have mansion size egos.....very pathetic season.  

Edited November 17, 2022 by endure

[Spectator]

1 hour ago, LakeGal said:

I just want to throw a blanket over Alexis.  I am so sick of her look-at-me outfits with her boobs out all the time.  

Yep. Ummmm, how about that pole dancing outfit? I mean come on. 

[Haute Messe]

So Alexis still has a soft spot for Justin? At least they have one thing in common 🤪 I shall show myself out now….

[cinsays]

9 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I have to side  with Nate on the constant barrage of open up, open up.  Stacia needs to accept him as is, just as she wants to be accepted for herself.  She doesn’t  want to  stop being herself  and she can’t expect him to either 

Painting with black paint above white carpet.   
He opens up and she criticizes because he’s not planning as much as she is. 
 

pole dancing and Alexis’s ‘costume’ 

yes!  stacia is so annoying with her wanting nate to be exactly how she wants him to be. she should just clone herself instead of marrying someone else.

and i was sure nate was going to spatter paint on the carpet and she was going to throw him out and say that was the last straw. unfortunately not. 

if he really wants to live in her world, guess that's his choice but i think he should find someone who can appreciate who he is, which is definitely not miss perfect.

7 hours ago, Spectator said:

Yep. Ummmm, how about that pole dancing outfit? I mean come on. 

yeah, is this really how this girl dresses normally? i would think this would put off any guy who wants a serious relationship and not just a bed partner

6 hours ago, Haute Messe said:

So Alexis still has a soft spot for Justin? At least they have one thing in common 🤪 I shall show myself out now….

i'm sure i would appreciate the joke, but i don't understand what this means

[Mr. Miner]

What was Justin's retired WNBA looking ass implying about her PH balance was off?

[Spectator]

Wow Alexis. She threw soooooooo much serious shade toward Justin in that Afterparty show when she said ‘they “tried” to have sex but that “it didn’t manifest itself”. That comment was so below the belt, as we all noted at the time. So it was great to see Justin call her out on it in this episode. But then for Alexis to have the audacity to claim no wrong doing, and that if he interpreted that comment as her saying that he couldn’t get it up, then that was on him. What??? I’m calling BS. Massive BS! What the hell????? Who wouldn’t interpret Alexis’s comments as that???? What else could she have possibly meant???? And not only did she take zero responsibility for her words, she compounded the insult by blaming his supposed false interpretation on his own insecurities??? Jeez Alexis, if you’re going to insult someone on national TV, at least own it. But no, this is Alexis - she has such a lofty opinion of herself she would never admit she was wrong or mean or anything other than perfect. 

She is the queen of gaslighting. She sees herself as utterly perfect and has exhibited this sort of nonsense all season, so I suppose I wasn’t all that surprised by her response. But I was a bit disappointed when the other girls validated her - do none of the women think that insulting a man’s sexual performance is out of bounds? Ughhhh, the cast this season was just ROUGH! I’ve grown to dislike almost every single one of them (Alexis being at the top of the heap though).

43 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

What was Justin's retired WNBA looking ass implying about her PH balance was off?

I thought that was odd too…I’m guessing he was saying that she smelled foul. I’m not sure why he didn’t just say that though. 

[For Cereals]

52 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

What was Justin's retired WNBA looking ass implying about her PH balance was off?

Sounds like a Dinyel and Mohammed situation (sorry to reference another show), or at least Justin’s justification.  I understand him being upset because she insulted him left and right in her ITMs and tried to act like she was just joking or pretending to spare his feelings while being shady.

Bring on January so we can get sick of a whole new round of people!

Also, like the straight hair on Krysten but still don’t get this generation’s fixation with center parts and hate those side streak highlights but it’s better.  Don’t like the new hair color on Stacia.

Edited November 17, 2022 by For Cereals

[Spectator]

Mitch lacks tact, for sure, but I actually think he’s a pretty decent guy (he has grown on me a lot since the beginning of the season). At one point when most everyone was sitting at the outdoor dining table and Justin was by himself in a lounge chair off to the side, Mitch excused himself to go check on Justin. That was very kind. I think he has a good heart, it’s just that he and Krysten were really mismatched (per usual on this show) and he had to work through a relationship that he knew from the start was probably not going to work. I have no doubt he’ll find a woman who shares his love for the environment and his love for surfing and they’ll get along like peas and carrots. 
 

I couldn’t believe when Krysten questioned (again!!) whether she should have given Mitch a chance outside of the show. It just reinforced that she’s never really grasped Mitch’s perspective on their relationship. It is crystal clear that he’s not interested in a relationship with her and he has tried again and again to tell her that in a kind way, but Krysten keeps misinterpreting every kind gesture as a reason to leave her door ajar for him. I applaud her commitment, but at some point she needs to see reality and just let Mitch go. 

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, For Cereals said:

Sounds like a Dinyel and Mohammed situation (sorry to reference another show),

lol!

[Retired at last]

PLEASE make these people go away forever now! We were just subjected to (unless we fell asleep during part of it) a 2-hour HAIL TO KRYSTEN spectacular. Why they made her the spokesperson and expert, I will never understand. So, we got to see crazy BFF antics with KRYSTEN and Alexis. We got to see KRYSTEN butting into Nate and Stacia's relationship (because KRYSTEN is such an expert?), we saw KRYSTEN and her BFFs in the park taking a pole dancing class, where KRYSTEN announces how good she was (when she was the least coordinated person of the 3), then KRYSTEN and her BFF going on a double date (where I am sure the men didn't happen to notice the cameras). But, I will say that at least they both wore clothes for the first date. And, finally, a farewell (forever, I hope) and birthday party for KRYSTEN where she looks as unattractive as she ever has. That dress did her no favors.

But, let us not forget that there are other couples on the show. Lindy and Miguel went to take new wedding pictures and then sat in the grass - not on a blanket, but who sits on a grass in a white wedding dress, Lindy??? They have the same discussions and same expressions on their faces as they did the whole show. Boring.

So, we are supposed to believe that Morgan and Binh are such good friends that he agrees to meet her where she can beat the crap out of him to "help him" develop a backbone??? (I did fall asleep during this part, thankfully.) And, again, Morgan wearing a skin-colored tight top to the "party" did her no favors.

If Stacia wants a vulnerable man, I hear that Justin is available. Run, Nate! She is such a cold, unemotional bitch that I don't know how they even pretended to last as long as they did. Her rolling her eyes when Nate was trying to talk to her was horrible.

I do wish they had ended the show with a real update as to who, if anyone, is still together. You can see that on the spoiler page.

And, no, I did not watch that special wedding show that followed. Lifetime has too much MAFS time on their hands to fill.

[NowVoyager]

I had the sensation I was watching a scripted sit-com.

[Retired at last]

22 minutes ago, NowVoyager said:

I had the sensation I was watching a scripted sit-com.

Definitely seemed like some kind of a pilot. The problem was that it wasn't funny! Can you imagine a show with Krysten and Alexis as the main players????

[suzeecat]

I wonder if, when Alexis shops for clothes, her thoughts go to "Will people notice my boobs?"  And if the answer is "without a doubt", it's a sale.

And yes, I got from the "PH balance being off" comment that Justin was repulsed by Alexis' vaginal odor.  Very tactful. 

[endure]

12 hours ago, Haute Messe said:

So Alexis still has a soft spot for Justin? At least they have one thing in common 🤪 I shall show myself out now….

Seems Alexis and Krysten both have soft spots for their ex's in their talking heads then when the two women get together they totally bash them.

[endure]

6 hours ago, cinsays said:

i'm sure i would appreciate the joke, but i don't understand what this means

Think sex.

[endure]

2 hours ago, NowVoyager said:

I had the sensation I was watching a scripted sit-com.

A poorly acted & scripted sitcom!  And who watches that for two hours, I need to make smarter choices.

[Rightside]

Does anyone think  Stacia and Nate will be done sooner rather than later??

[endure]

1 hour ago, Rightside said:

Does anyone think  Stacia and Nate will be done sooner rather than later??

I hope so, a relationship can sometimes be work but she makes it a full-time job, she's exhausting. Free Nate!!!

[Kiss my mutt]

I thought Alexis had a yeast infection and tested with a ph strip. 
IF I were ever to take a pole dancing class, it would be in a building with no windows and twenty locks on the door, not outside in public!

[EXEAL]

17 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I am so relieved to see that Mya has a muzzle on in public! 

I think it was just the one quick shot showing a muzzle on Mya. As Justine and Mitch were walking around the park pretending to pickup trash, Mya did not have the muzzle on. 

[Retired at last]

1 hour ago, Kiss my mutt said:

F I were ever to take a pole dancing class, it would be in a building with no windows and twenty locks on the door, not outside in public!

With no clothes on!

[Crashcourse]

29 minutes ago, Retired at last said:

With no clothes on!

Ouch! 🤣

[EXEAL]

7 hours ago, Retired at last said:

PLEASE make these people go away forever now! We were just subjected to (unless we fell asleep during part of it) a 2-hour HAIL TO KRYSTEN spectacular. Why they made her the spokesperson and expert, I will never understand. So, we got to see crazy BFF antics with KRYSTEN and Alexis. We got to see KRYSTEN butting into Nate and Stacia's relationship (because KRYSTEN is such an expert?), we saw KRYSTEN and her BFFs in the park taking a pole dancing class, where KRYSTEN announces how good she was (when she was the least coordinated person of the 3), then KRYSTEN and her BFF going on a double date (where I am sure the men didn't happen to notice the cameras). But, I will say that at least they both wore clothes for the first date. And, finally, a farewell (forever, I hope) and birthday party for KRYSTEN where she looks as unattractive as she ever has. That dress did her no favors.

Maybe Krysten has visions of stardom now since they focused on her so much this episode and she's hoping she will be offered a deal to do a spinoff.🤔😀

[kristen111]

4 hours ago, Rightside said:

Does anyone think  Stacia and Nate will be done sooner rather than later??

Looks like they were done but came back yet for another filming.  Never ends.

[kristen111]

18 minutes ago, EXEAL said:

Maybe Krysten has visions of stardom now since they focused on her so much this episode and she's hoping she will be offered a deal to do a spinoff.🤔😀

If Krysten was such a good friend to Boo, why didn’t she advise her how to use soap and water down south.  Justin had to tell her, and how embarrassing.  There’s more to take care of than hair and boobages.  That was the grossest thing I’ve ever heard on tv.  Yuk.

[kristen111]

7 hours ago, suzeecat said:

I wonder if, when Alexis shops for clothes, her thoughts go to "Will people notice my boobs?"  And if the answer is "without a doubt", it's a sale.

And yes, I got from the "PH balance being off" comment that Justin was repulsed by Alexis' vaginal odor.  Very tactful. 

Alexis better take more care of her who-ha before those boobs.

[Crashcourse]

I didn't watch, but I loved the news of Justin clapping back at Alexis.  If she can disparage his sexual prowess, then he's certainly right to bring up that she's got a smelly hooch.   

[Alexander Pope]

I am wondering, when did the star of this show Krysten become Kris?  Mitch and Alexis both called her that.  Is this part of her new persona?

That weird meeting between Alexis and Justin in front of what looked like a creek was very perplexing.  He said she wanted to talk.  She said hello and never looked up from her phone. WTF was happening??  

And Alexis insulted his sexual prowess CONSTANTLY, not just that one time.  So she had zero legs to stand on, and his apologies to everyone else seemed sincere as anything else on the show to me.

[kristen111]

Krysten talks too much.  She analyses every little thing to death.  She will drive a man crazy with her know it all attitude.  After awhile it gets real annoying.  Plus, she’s very conceited and has to chill.   She’s going to have a lot of competition in New York City.  

[Elizzikra]

5 hours ago, EXEAL said:

I think it was just the one quick shot showing a muzzle on Mya. As Justine and Mitch were walking around the park pretending to pickup trash, Mya did not have the muzzle on. 

Ugh. Justin is such a dumbass. That poor dog is going to bite another dog again and the consequences will be far worse the second time around. If Mya really is Justin’s “baby” he should take better care of her…

[qtpye]

12 hours ago, Spectator said:

I couldn’t believe when Krysten questioned (again!!) whether she should have given Mitch a chance outside of the show. It just reinforced that she’s never really grasped Mitch’s perspective on their relationship. It is crystal clear that he’s not interested in a relationship with her and he has tried again and again to tell her that in a kind way, but Krysten keeps misinterpreting every kind gesture as a reason to leave her door ajar for him. I applaud her commitment, but at some point she needs to see reality and just let Mitch go. 

I was like, Good Lord, is Mitch actually your dream man? 

She still seems to be a little hung up on him.

[Lurk]

9 hours ago, suzeecat said:

I wonder if, when Alexis shops for clothes, her thoughts go to "Will people notice my boobs?"  And if the answer is "without a doubt", it's a sale.

And yes, I got from the "PH balance being off" comment that Justin was repulsed by Alexis' vaginal odor.  Very tactful. 

I was wondering about that PH comment. Was she too acidic and burned the stiff off you?

[qtpye]

9 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Definitely seemed like some kind of a pilot. The problem was that it wasn't funny! Can you imagine a show with Krysten and Alexis as the main players????

This did not seem like MAFS but an old ass version of the Real World.

[sara416]

51 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Ugh. Justin is such a dumbass. That poor dog is going to bite another dog again and the consequences will be far worse the second time around. If Mya really is Justin’s “baby” he should take better care of her…

Third. He said after the thing with Alexis's dog that Mya had bitten a dog once before. This dog needs a muzzle and clearly needs to not be around other dogs. Training didn't work because she bit another dog there too. So I guess next time with be the FOURTH time. 

[endure]

2 hours ago, qtpye said:

I was like, Good Lord, is Mitch actually your dream man? 

She still seems to be a little hung up on him.

Yea I agree, she’s still hopeful, but he’s just not into her.

[kikicat]

Pole dancing in a melon sling. Oh, Alexis, never change. (I did think she looked quite nice at lunch with Krysten. Natural non-fussy hair and only a peek of cleavage. Pale blue is a good color for her.)

Krysten was joking about being the best performer at their outdoor stripper exhibition. At least I hope so.

So much fake in this show.

Lindy and Miguel's house tour. Staged, staged, staged, and far out of their budget. Magic 8 Ball says: Outlook not good.

The "date" with paid escorts. Sorry, gals, the guys weren't any more into you than you were into them. And the mocking of single-use plastic was not a good look for you, Krysten. Showing your true colors.

Nate moving in. Um, why were you apart? Was your "yes" on decision day a lie?! Time to google Tattoo Removal Services.

Justin and Alexis. Couldn't stomach that. I had fish for dinner.

Agreed with the comments about the cast. The men weren't great, but the women were just awful, especially when they got together and the knives came out.

This is the end, right? No more updates, look-backs and top twenty craziest moments? Please?

[kikicat]

14 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Can you imagine a show with Krysten and Alexis as the main players????

Strangely, I can.

Staresky and Cooch

Gossip Gals

The Big Boobs Theory

Gag Me and Mace Me

What a Pair!

[Lindz]

Oh dear God, my eyes!!!! Is that that ridiculous top we saw Noi & Jaz wear last season?!!! It's awful, but looked like it was gunna snap on Alexis. Holding on for dear life! 🤣🤣

[Lindz]

I'm surprised Nate actually answered Krysten's 'now tell me what happened.' Like. Who tf are you?!! What's he got to explain to you?!! Like are you some authority/counselor in their relationship. I really disliked her approach. If she would've said she wanted to help them get back together, how can she help? That's a much better approach. Not that her advice was all that good. Romance her & if she declines, keep trying. Eh. Can't "romance" or ignore problems forever.

[Lindz]

Their seating was stupid. They should've sat across from their dates, not beside. Krysten's first solo talking point was about marriage. Good God woman! TOO SOON! I resent them using those guys as a "getting back out there" date. I hope they knew that beforehand. Krysten's date was lifeless. Zero personality. Maybe he's shy. A first date should definitely be solo, double dates are for established couples or at least one established couple. Krysten's questions were so stupid. Basically bringing Mitch into it. LET HIM GO!!! Why didn't Alexis tell her, "REMEMBER: HE SAID NO ON DD!!!," when she was talking about giving up too soon or whatever nonsense?!! It's good her date was boring, she's about to move. It makes no sense to start something.

[Lindz]

So both Justin & Nate say hurtful things to their wives during arguments? Hmm. Unfortunate. They don't know how to act. Inappropriate. Justin apologized to Nate for insinuating he was gay because he was lashing out against his confrontation & Nate was channeling all his issues towards Justin? Hmm. I wonder if their apologies transpire the same way with their wives. I doubt it. They were so understanding & reflective... It was 2 weeks later though. But, if they had nothing making them be around each other, they probably wouldn't have sought out the other to apologize. Interesting that Nate said they're good after their apologies, but said they're not in his TH.

[StatisticalOutlier]

7 hours ago, kikicat said:

The "date" with paid escorts. Sorry, gals, the guys weren't any more into you than you were into them.

I couldn't believe how many times Alexis's date said "like."  Maybe I notice these things more because I use the captions and I have to read it every time it happens and can't just learn to tune it out.  But if I were Alexis I'd demand my money back.

Krysten's date may not have said much, but that means he had less opportunity to say "like," so on balance it was probably a good thing.

[Doublemint]

I lived in New York City for 25 years.  The men Kristen would date are into drinking and hook-ups.   They are not the marrying kind.  There are waaay more single women than men.   The men can have their pick, and the "relationship" will never go anywhere.