Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[DanaMB]

4 hours ago, tribeca said:

Claire only had eyes for Tripp unfortunately she tried to kill him a few to many times. 

A minor issue in Salem. 

[brisbydog]

I'm not used to cheering on Chloe but everything she is saying today is correct. How long are we going to have to endure this Kristen Krap?

[DisneyBoy]

Watching live. This Gabi/Rolf stuff is practically a comedy skit.

Anyone else offended that they have Gabi threatening Rolf by bringing up killing Nick? That was a complex thing....not a badass move on her part. She was scared of Nick, who tried to rape and manipulate her.

I get the writing was trying to suggest that Gabi was threatening Rolf and trying to sound tough, but unless Julie's throwing it in her face for the hundredth time, I very much doubt Gabi is comfortable bringing up that subject at all. She's not a killer. It rings false when they try to go that route (like with the pacemaker storyline).

NewRolf's accent is a touch all over the place, but sure, get him to use French expressions as well 🙄 Poor guy. He's doing ok otherwise, though. I hope poor William is recovering from his stroke though. He was the OG and is missed.

I love Nicole and Eric. I'm sorry, not sorry, I just do, even if he's got white hairs in his damn beard and they're still dancing around their feelings like teenagers 😄

NewKristen is....making me want to see them all beat her with a stick. It's not fun to see SH play her as such a smug strident cartoon villain. There was something to delight in with Eileen's portrayal. You rooted for her. Here, I've had enough.

If Marlena and John value their sanity, they'd poison her coffee and be done with it.

In the hands of better writers, this could have been a terrific twist, with tons of fun, tense scenes of them all navigating this awful arrangement, kinda like how it was when suspicious Doc moved in with "pregnant" Kristen and John in the '90s. All we'll get here though are some flat quips in that one living room set. That dinner Kristen's cooking? We'll never see them eating it around a table. They don't own one! And worse, Deidre doesn't spark with SH at all.

...where's Belle, the lawyer and loving daughter? Can't she do anything to help protect her parents? You can't withhold medicine and force the victim to let you live in their home. That's nuts. But then, so was Shawn tolerating his rapist's preferences. 🙄 

Stefan is just his portrayer now. I don't see a character. Is anyone happy he's back?

I hate that Li is getting thrown under the bus. He's good. Better than Rafe, that's for sure.

Probably not a bad episode compared to the show's usual standards, but....not great either.

Edited October 24, 2022 by DisneyBoy

[DisneyBoy]

42 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

I'm not used to cheering on Chloe but everything she is saying today is correct. How long are we going to have to endure this Kristen Krap?

Yeah, round of applause for Chloe for the truth bombs she was dropping. And that scene's writer for letting her speak the truth. The show sometimes avoids letting characters address how insane things are. It was LONG overdue.

[peachmangosteen]

I loved Chloe today, too. I also enjoyed the hell outta the Rolf/Gabi and Li/Rafe scenes. The Li actor is so fun to watch. His choices are always hilarious.

My sister makes us fast forward the Nicole/Eric scenes because she's over it but even in fast forward Eric is so hot. Actually, the best way to watch him is probably in fast forward so you can appreciate his fineness without having to actually listen to him lol.

[Swartz]

Ron and his favorites.  John and Marlena and the never rending Kristen the cartoon villain.   Over all of it.  I'll tune in when these folks aren't on.     I guess Kayla is still in the hospital? Who knows because Ron has his favorites that he has to write story after story while other vets get peanuts 

[WendyCR72]

I say this almost every day and I am sure it is in annoying territory for y'all, and for that, I'm sincerely sorry.

But...KILL KRISTEN, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

Enough is fucking enough as far as this banshee is concerned. And I only advocate for this as it is a character, but Rachel can be Zack'd, too. Over all of this shit already.

[Frozendiva]

So Nicole un-fires Eric and conveniently, she has to do the model shoot. In a dress that fits her perfectly.

Jada admits to outing the truth about Eric.

Gabi somehow grabbed Rolf by the neck, got the truth from him, but got a dose of fuzzy memory wipe and now can’t remember anything.

Chloe reads Kristen and Brady some truths, leaves, and drinks with Stefan.

John and Doc return home to find a new houseguest. Hope Brady comes clean about the hostage for cure situation.

[Soapy Goddess]

12 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

NewKristen is....making me want to see them all beat her with a stick. It's not fun to see SH play her as such a smug strident cartoon villain. There was something to delight in with Eileen's portrayal. You rooted for her. Here, I've had enough.

Yes, a thousand times yes!  Eileen was sultry and smart in her approach, whereas SH plays Kristen more like Boris' Natasha (of Rocky & Bullwinkle...aka Moose & Squirrel).

[BuckeyeLou]

Leo Stark wearing the Donkey head was funny :)  UhOh: What did Stephanie walk in on?!  I like Zach Tinker, poor Sonny & Maggie both feeling like they do Not come 1st in their Partners' lives.   I liked Chad imitating James Bond :)

[peachmangosteen]

Today was another fun ep. 

Today was the first time I've really seen much of Stephanie since usually we fast forward but we're interested in the stuff with Paulina so we watched. Anyway, yea, she kinda sucks lol. 

[tribeca]

Alex does not even know Stephanie he might not like her very much if he did know her. 
 

[WendyCR72]

18 minutes ago, tribeca said:

Alex does not even know Stephanie he might not like her very much if he did know her. 
 

Well, to be fair, Alex ain't all that, either. So he has no room to judge ANYONE else.

[Frozendiva]

If Nicole’s apartment could fit her, Holly, Allie and Henry, why can’t it fit Wendy Shin? She can’t stay at the pub?

Leo got promoted from donkey to assistant?

Abe, it is doubtful that you will be resigning as Mayor.

Sloane seems real confident about the initial blackmail payment. Wonder if she can tell if the money is fake.

When did Stephanie learn to pick locks? Surprise to find Alex K at Sloane’s place.

Sonny, Will isn’t likely to put you first.

[BuckeyeLou]

Again, I enjoyed Zach Tinker's scenes with Sonny grilling Allie about her threesome, lol.  Then Sonny runs into Leo & again a fun scene between the 2.  And Leo popping up in various scenes was making me laugh & how he elevated himself to "Executive Director".   And I like the character of Wendy, she is very "cool" and is just taking in all the info she is learning about everyone in Salem.

[JBC344]

Loved the Sonny and Maggie scenes. I liked them addressing the idea of your partner putting work before you, but did I miss something? Will was the one being incredibly supportive of Sonny being CEO at Titan, moving back to Salem solo while Ari was still in school. Also it was Sonny's work that took them out of Salem and moved them to Arizona in the first place. 

I know in the past Will's work has been an issue, but for the last 5yrs, it's been the Sonny work that has dominated their lives. 

[Nique]

On 10/22/2022 at 6:43 PM, tribeca said:

Claire only had eyes for Tripp unfortunately she tried to kill him a few to many times. 

Too bad she didn't succeed 

[DanaMB]

On 10/25/2022 at 6:02 PM, tribeca said:

Alex does not even know Stephanie he might not like her very much if he did know her. 
 

I know I don’t. 

[DisneyBoy]

3 hours ago, Nique said:

Too bad she didn't succeed 

What's so bad about Tripp?

[Frozendiva]

Stephanie doesn’t seem all that shrewd or smart. And now she has a problem of Alex Kiriakis who caught her red-handed.

Convenient for Leo to be able to basically smell fake money and tip off Sloane. Chad and Steph are busted.

Wendy comes to her new temp home at Allie and Chanel’s place. Why would Sonny want to know about his brother’s extracurricular activities?

Chanel brings a cake for Allie’s and Johnny’s birthday. Wendy has no idea of the Salem dynamics of who is seeing who.

Guess Abe doesn’t know Paulina’s secret.

Alex K. sees Sloane’s keys on the nightstand. Will he snoop? At least he distracted Sloane, who did not know Steph was hiding in what looks like Lani and Eli’s old place with a bit of furniture moved.

[SouthernChick]

1 hour ago, DisneyBoy said:

What's so bad about Tripp?

He’s dull as hell? 

[enchantingmonkey]

Is The Show turning into some kind of soft porn venture for RSW?  I guess that explains why he was recast as Alex the Shameless Horn Dog.  

I'm just here waiting to find out what Chanel's Big Secret is supposed to be, so it's difficult for me to root for Chad and Stephanie's flimsy attempt at conning Sloane.  

I really hope Wendy gets something more to do than to be sucked into the pit of quicksand that is Johnny/Allie/Chanel.  She seems like she could be a fun character with an interesting POV if given the chance.  Run, Wendy, run!

[Sidney]

The Kristen character has truly run it's course. There is nothing interesting about this character anymore.

[Nique]

11 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

What's so bad about Tripp?

Everything. Self righteous misogynistic boring drippy ass clown. I hated him since he showed up and tried killing Kayla based on some word salad of his bio mom, who realistically he couldn't pick out of a lineup if asked who his mom was. I felt like they white washed his actions towards Kayla🤷‍♀️

Their is the Claire stuff I don't know if you remember dude tried to throw her out of her own house while shacking up with someone else in her house. I saw a misogynistic attitude towards her during Hope the truth that I hated right along with Ciara.

I don't like Ciara but he did her wrong too and kept repeating these wrongs through the Brady-Horton's girls Claire & Allie(When she thought he raped her)that doesn't sit right with me. One leaves you for a SK, the other a woman & the other tried to light you up, I look in the mirror and see what I'm doing wrong in life. That's all

[4evaQuez]

Very random things put a smile on my face this episode.

1. The Holly/Ari meeting. Granted, who knows how long this show will last, but I always get excited seeing first introductions of legacy characters on Soaps. I was genuinely perplexed that this was their first meeting, but realized there's no reason whatsoever for Nicole to interact with Gabi/Will/Sonny. The only other connection would be Maggie keeping Holly/Ari together since Will/Sonny live with Maggie, sometimes. But the show does shockingly little with the Maggie/Holly relationship. We've gotten more references of Maggie keeping Henry than we have Holly these past couple years.

2. It was nice seeing Ari. I missed yesterday's episode, so it was my first time seeing this new Ari. Gabi said she's almost a teenager. Thinking about teen Arianna Grace also put a smile on my face. Similar to Maggie/Holly, the show does little with Arianna Grace and the Brady/Horton/Jarlena family.

3. Seeing Chloe with Holly. 

4. Seeing Jarlena work as a team. 

5. Seeing all the wrong people together at the Halloween gathering. It felt like old Soap. The wrong couples together while pining for their true love. One villain - Li - coming to the realization that his plan isn't working while the other villain - Kristen - is still entirely delusional. The Chloe/Stefan hug being so troubling to Brady/Gabi/Li all for different reasons while Kristen gloats triumphantly. Also, seeing Chloe's smiling face as she hugged Stefan and realizing that this is going to get so much worse for everyone involved. Yes!

6. I felt this way Monday, too, but this is the Days cast that immediately hooks me. All the characters feel genuinely connected to each other, every one works well together even if some people aren't particularly strong actors - Li - the connection makes up for the lack. I'm rooting for things to get better while instinctually knowing things are going to get much, much worst while Jarlena are on the cusp of figuring out Kristen's nefariousness.  I just wish the B cast - Allie/Johnny/Chanel/Steph/Alex/Chad, could be this interesting to me.

I know people here have issues with Kristen, but I'm honestly enjoying her right now. Everyone, including Stefan, sees her as the villain she is. I also love seeing her revel in her evil. This is the heir to Stefano Dimera that Stefan and EJ will never be.

Lastly, Brady said the Kristen he loved would never be so pathetic as to blackmail a man into sex. Is Brady forgetting the time Kristen drugged and raped Eric and videotaped it or the time she masqueraded around town as Nicole hence the reason Rachel exists. All how she stole Theresa/Brady's genetic material hence why Tate exists. Blackmail seems pretty tame for Kristen considering her history.

[DisneyBoy]

Gabi runs a fashion empire....and that's the costume she throws together? Siiiiigh.

I love Li and Gabi together though. They light up around each other and seem similarly good-yet-grey. If this show were smart, they'd invest in them. (....yeah, yeah, I know....)

I'm comforted by the looks on Brady's face. It means he's over Kristen for real. Amen to that.

It's so sad to me seeing what's become of Kristen. Deidre looked so checked out in her scene with SH. These two characters and their rivalry used to make the show for me. Now, with a replacement and weak writing, it really seems like a paper-thin relationship. "That awful woman" is too foreign a description from Doc. John even calling her "Kristen DiMera!" to Brady sounds so weird and expository given these men were both inside her for years (sorry but...come on!)  These characters know each other intimately!

...was that the first time Kristen has called John "Grandpa John"? If so, that was a moment. 😬 Wish the show took a beat to knowledge it.

I actually tuned in for this but...this Kristen is dead :( There's not even a semblance of a connection, even when she references her past with Brady. She just seems like a skanky mess he picked up at a roadside dive one night...not the layered woman we've loved (and loved to hate?) for years.

Moving on...Stefan made Holly listen to Metallica? And classical music? And watch Fast & Furious movies? Huh? When? **triggered by references to events not shown**

Does this version of Stefan even track with how he was being performed before? I see no reminders of his sinister nature...

Rachel, it's nice to finally meet you, but...how does someone look thirsty? To a child? Weird line.

Ok, please help me keep track of these kids! Tight braids with blonde hair...that's Holly? And she turned into the kid in the shark costume...right? And Ari, formerly a blonde (like Will) is now a brunette...right?

And is it just me, or does the actress playing Holly now look strangely like the girl who played Allie ten years ago when EJ died...? Same round face...I was really thrown by that...

Ericole need to find new ways to flirt. Photoshoots with them are always foreplay and it's...a little old hat, guys. Even YOU know what you're doing by now, LOL. Don't be acting all innocent.

I like Halloween episodes so this was a nice effort. And no zombies! Or devil! Hallelujah!!

3 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

Seeing all the wrong people together at the Halloween gathering. It felt like old Soap.

Yes! Exactly. No...wait....who is wrong? I don't see Brady and Chloe as a final pairing so I'm fine with them being broken up. But I do see Lo and Gabi being happy together so...I guess I agree that it was nice seeing characters gather for a holiday with their kids.

3 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

this is the Days cast that immediately hooks me. All the characters feel genuinely connected to each other, every one works well together...I just wish the B cast - Allie/Johnny/Chanel/Steph/Alex/Chad, could be this interesting to me.

Same. Not that Abe or Chad or Kayla are exactly "B" level to me...but I hear you.

All that was missing from this episode was some Xander. Wonder if he'll get a costume this year too.

Edited October 27, 2022 by DisneyBoy

[DisneyBoy]

4 hours ago, Nique said:

Everything. Self righteous misogynistic boring drippy ass clown. I hated him since he showed up and tried killing Kayla based on some word salad of his bio mom, who realistically he couldn't pick out of a lineup if asked who his mom was. I felt like they white washed his actions towards Kayla🤷‍♀️

Fair. Well except for the misogynistic part. I don't see that.

4 hours ago, Nique said:

Their is the Claire stuff I don't know if you remember dude tried to throw her out of her own house while shacking up with someone else in her house. I saw a misogynistic attitude towards her during Hope the truth that I hated right along with Ciara.

...not quite understanding that sentence, sorry. Or recalling how he tried to throw her out.

4 hours ago, Nique said:

kept repeating these wrongs through the Brady-Horton's girls Claire & Allie(When she thought he raped her)that doesn't sit right with me.

Do you remember what he said?

He's a good actor who got stuck with awful storylines from Day One. I can't think of a single one that made good use of him or resonated. He looks the part of Steve's son. He's generally a good guy. I like him.

[brisbydog]

[Nique]

2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Fair. Well except for the misogynistic part. I don't see that.

...not quite understanding that sentence, sorry. Or recalling how he tried to throw her out.

Do you remember what he said?

He's a good actor who got stuck with awful storylines from Day One. I can't think of a single one that made good use of him or resonated. He looks the part of Steve's son. He's generally a good guy. I like him.

Do you remember when they had a vote in the apartment Ciara, Ben, Tripp about kicking Claire out the apartment she shared with Ciara? This was before Tripp & Ciara came up with that plan to poke the Crazy in Claire. When Tripp had that little relationship with Hailey? I believe that's her name she wasn't on the show very long.

When the evidence was pointing to him as Allie's rapist and she was accusing him based on this, he told her to get over it. That's what I'm referring to with Allie

[peachmangosteen]

I feel like Tripp handled Allie accusing him of rape pretty well but I barely remember the intricacies of today's episode, let alone years ago so I could be wrong lol.

Today was another great episode. I loved pretty much all of it.

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Oh my god....

FATALITY!

[Retired at last]

4 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I like Halloween episodes so this was a nice effort. And no zombies! Or devil! Hallelujah!!

I don't think this was THE Halloween episode. I think they are saving that for Monday.

[SouthernChick]

The dialogue today pretty much confirms at some point Kristen is going to rape Brady again.  It’s a sad day when I think Stefano is better than Kristen. At least Stefano said he would never rape Marlena, because he wanted her to come to him willingly.

[WendyCR72]

4 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Just another reminder of how GROSS they are. Eeeww!!!

[FilmTVGeek80]

9 hours ago, Nique said:

Everything. Self righteous misogynistic boring drippy ass clown. I hated him since he showed up and tried killing Kayla based on some word salad of his bio mom, who realistically he couldn't pick out of a lineup if asked who his mom was. I felt like they white washed his actions towards Kayla🤷‍♀️

Their is the Claire stuff I don't know if you remember dude tried to throw her out of her own house while shacking up with someone else in her house. I saw a misogynistic attitude towards her during Hope the truth that I hated right along with Ciara.

I don't like Ciara but he did her wrong too and kept repeating these wrongs through the Brady-Horton's girls Claire & Allie(When she thought he raped her)that doesn't sit right with me. One leaves you for a SK, the other a woman & the other tried to light you up, I look in the mirror and see what I'm doing wrong in life. That's all

They never whitewashed his actions with Kayla. He’s apologized for that repeatedly. Even last week he was expressing remorse for it even though he and Kayla have long since worked past it. At one point, he was willing to literally lay down his life to save Kayla’s to make up for it. It’s not like he and Kayla became good immediately. One of the reasons she was willing to believe he raped Allie was because of what he did to her. 
 

I don’t remember him trying to throw her out, though you seem to indicate this was a group effort and not just him. Plus, at one point Claire was nuttier than a fruitcake and doing pretty out there things. I don’t remember him ever having a misogynistic attitude toward her. 
 

I can’t even remember ultimately why he and Ciara broke up. I think when she ran out before meeting Ben it was based on some misunderstanding with Tripp. He did nothing wrong in the Allie relationship to get cheated on, so no, I don’t agree he needs to look within to figure out why that didn’t work. Tripp was the mature one in that relationship who ultimately ended it because he wasn’t willing to be with Allie if she didn’t love only him.

[DisneyBoy]

31 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

The dialogue today pretty much confirms at some point Kristen is going to rape Brady again.  It’s a sad day when I think Stefano is better than Kristen. At least Stefano said he would never rape Marlena, because he wanted her to come to him willingly.

I completely got that vibe too. Very good point.

2 hours ago, Nique said:

Do you remember when they had a vote in the apartment Ciara, Ben, Tripp about kicking Claire out the apartment she shared with Ciara? This was before Tripp & Ciara came up with that plan to poke the Crazy in Claire.

I'm struggling to remember these details...why was Ciara trying to trigger Claire? I mean no one knew she set the fire until the end of that storyline if I recall correctly...

10 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

They never whitewashed his actions with Kayla. He’s apologized for that repeatedly. Even last week he was expressing remorse for it even though he and Kayla have long since worked past it. At one point, he was willing to literally lay down his life to save Kayla’s to make up for it. It’s not like he and Kayla became good immediately. One of the reasons she was willing to believe he raped Allie was because of what he did to her. 

^ yup. I still hate that he tried to kill Kayla and her patients, but yup, it was addressed and not forgotten.

[Nique]

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Edited October 28, 2022 by Nique

[Nique]

Ciara it had to do with Ben & the fires. It had to do with Haley the one Tripp married to keep her from being deported kinda thing who was living there too. The police found Haley and arrested her cause Claire told Eve.

This is the same instance I believe where she tried to kill Tripp with the knife after they come together to confront her to see if she knew anything. Tripp pretends to get back with her to get information out of her but she turns the tables and tries to take both of them out the game.  

[Frozendiva]

So Kristen walks out of the kitchen dressed as some sort of Cruella Disney Queen. She went near a stove with those sleeves? Not sure I would like pumpkin pancakes.

Brady gives some of his reason of why Kristen is there. Put things together, John.

The Horton Scare? In the morning?

Li looked ridiculous with the cat ears.

Eric needs pics of Nicole in holiday red lingerie? Wouldn’t the office want a slightly younger model?

Gabi still wants Stefan who thinks he wants Chloe who wants Brady who wants to get rid of Kristen. I cannot see Stefan introducing Metallica to anyone.

[tribeca]

4 hours ago, SouthernChick said:

The dialogue today pretty much confirms at some point Kristen is going to rape Brady again.  It’s a sad day when I think Stefano is better than Kristen. At least Stefano said he would never rape Marlena, because he wanted her to come to him willingly.

My take was Brady was going to snap and kill Kristin. 

[WendyCR72]

1 hour ago, tribeca said:

My take was Brady was going to snap and kill Kristin. 

Oh, yes! Hopefully, he can claim insanity and walk, if he does so!

[DisneyBoy]

I'd rather not see the man murder his ex-lover. Joey/Ava was icky enough.

[tribeca]

3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I'd rather not see the man murder his ex-lover. Joey/Ava was icky enough.

Maybe we will think it’s him then we find out it’s some random nun she drove nutty.  

[brisbydog]

I am down for a Kristen murder mystery! As long as they decapitate her the way it was rumoured for Abby so she never ever comes back 

[JarlenaFan2024]

Mods pls move this if it's not in the right place

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[peachmangosteen]

I'm not a subscriber and it came up for me.

[CanaryFan98]

16 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I'd rather not see the man murder his ex-lover. Joey/Ava was icky enough.

Joey/Ava were never lovers. He did have a crush on her but she declined his advances.

[tribeca]

11 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I am down for a Kristen murder mystery! As long as they decapitate her the way it was rumoured for Abby so she never ever comes back 

Reminds me of the movie soap net.  How do I write for a guy with no head ?

[Frozendiva]

That creepy clown costume sure got around today - Chad, Ava, and Susan Banks. She just couldn’t call her son to say that he is in danger?

Guess Tripp and Joey are going back home to Seattle and won’t be competing for Wendy.

Of course Orpheus sends a card and gift.

Geez, Paulina, you have a short fuse. Sometimes it takes a little longer to deal with a pesky blackmail issue. Stephanie, thank your lucky stars. Of course you go to the local gigolo to get him to help you out. The blindfold and handcuffs seem a little much for daytime. Who is at the door?

Nice of Charlie to make an appearance.