Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[Frozendiva]

Nicole, one does not tell any secrets to Anna. Loose lips.

I thought Wendy was a feisty, independent woman who didn’t care about having a man in her life. She sees Johnny and Chanel, automatically assumes they will be getting married, has no idea they were high on the drugged biscuits, and runs off to stake her claim on Tripp. Dumb.

Li was right that his sister does not answer her phone. Well she will eventually see the gossip column of the non engagement.

Stefan, should you not ask before having your girlfriend move into the mansion? Why would you want to live there? Pretty crowded.

Aww, Eric and Sloan want to be boyfriend and girlfriend. Guess she understood Eric hooking up with Nicole when both were drugged and has moved on quickly.

[DaphneCat]

Nicole has really lost control of the Salem brain.  She was seen in bed with Eric by SLOAN.  Does she really think that Sloan won't use it to her advantage at some point?

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Stefan, should you not ask before having your girlfriend move into the mansion?

Since it is the "family" house, I guess he has as much right to have anyone live there as anyone else - no need to ask permission.  After all, EJ didn't ask anyone if he could move in Nicole (and theoretically Holly - who apparently is living in an even more secret room than the DiMeara wine cellar.)

While I get Eric wanted to tell Paulina that he believes Sloan, why didn't he ask her if she truly believed that Sloan would actually let him eat spiked biscuits?  I know Paulina is usually so busy braying at full volume that nothing actually penetrates her tiny mind so it won't make a difference, but shouldn't that be a question the police (who apparently all work for Paulina) actually consider?

[Soapy Goddess]

4 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Well she will eventually see the gossip column of the non engagement.

And hopefully before she decides to sleep with Tripp.

[nilyank]

20 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Since it is the "family" house, I guess he has as much right to have anyone live there as anyone else - no need to ask permission. 

Except EJ currently owns the DiMansion. He obtained it separately from him becoming CEO at Dimera Enterprises.

Edited April 22, 2023 by nilyank

[4evaQuez]

The Brady family is "quiet and humble?" WN's Roman, Kimberly, Kayla, Sami, SH's Stephanie, Theresa, and Carrie. I wouldn't consider any of these people quiet and humble. Even AK's Stephanie is the CEO of her own PR firm, which connotes an assertive and ambitious personality; although, we haven't seen it onscreen. I don't consider Eric particularly quiet and humble either. He's prone to fits of rage and alcohol indulgence. Joey attempted to smother a woman to death. I kind of want to say only Will and Allie somewhat fit that description, but Will is an investigative journalist which connotes some type of fearlessness and gumption. Even Caroline was quite feisty if we include her as the Brady matriarch.  Does anyone remember when she and Chloe almost got into a fight in the Brady Pub, and Chloe had to be escorted out by Philip?

I'm convinced R.C. read a Wikipedia article that defined the Bradys as the working class family, the Kiriakis as the corporate family, the Hortons as the saintly family, and the Dimeras as the evil family, and he bases his characterizations on that reductionist one-liner. He definitely isn't basing it on 4 decades of character development in the case of Bo.

I'm going to be honest; I wasn't paying attention to the John/Roman scene. However, Roman said he was in Ireland with Carrie, so why didn't Carrie tell Roman about Marlena. We had a phone call between Carrie and Marlena a week or two ago.

I liked the Hope and Bo ending. However, did it look like Bo attempted to reach for his gun at the end? I hope not.

Edited April 21, 2023 by 4evaQuez

[CanaryFan98]

9 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

The Brady family is "quiet and humble?" WN's Roman, Kimberly, Kayla, Sami, SH's Stephanie, Theresa, and Carrie. I wouldn't consider any of these people quiet and humble. Even AK's Stephanie is the CEO of her own PR firm, which connotes an assertive and ambitious personality; although, we haven't seen it onscreen. I don't consider Eric particularly quiet and humble either. He's prone to fits of rage and alcohol indulgence. Joey attempted to smother a woman to death. I kind of want to say only Will and Allie somewhat fit that description, but Will is an investigative journalist which connotes some type of fearlessness and gumption. Even Caroline was quite feisty if we include her as the Brady matriarch.  Does anyone remember when she and Chloe almost got into a fight in the Brady Pub, and Chloe had to be escorted out by Philip?

I'm convinced R.C. read a Wikipedia article that defined the Bradys as the working class family, the Kiriakis as the corporate family, the Hortons as the saintly family, and the Dimeras as the evil family, and he bases his characterizations on that reductionist one-liner. He definitely isn't basing it on 4 decades of character development in the case of Bo.

I'm going to be honest; I wasn't paying attention to the John/Roman scene. However, Roman said he was in Ireland with Carrie, so why didn't Carrie tell Roman about Marlena. We had a phone call between Carrie and Marlena a week or two ago.

I liked the Hope and Bo ending. However, did it look like Bo attempted to reach for his gun at the end? I hope not.

I agree with you I think just refer to them as a working class family with a strong Catholic faith makes more sense but then again I rather this show not do anything religious either.

[Artsda]

Roman brought up Chelsea, will they remember to tell her that Bo is alive?

Is Chad still a Dimera? His entire family is in Salem in family stories together and he's on his own boring island with Stephanie like he's not a Dimera. He's been cast aside since Stephanie story started. Where's his kids? Shouldn't he be parenting? Did he leave them with Julie or ship them to Jack and Jenn? 

I think Kayla should have hit him on the head he needs it. 

That was a soapy cliffhanger. Bo and Hope finally see each other..

[boes]

The one thing I've wanted the most during the Bo storyline - more than Hope finding him, more that Kayla and Steve being rescued, more than Harris Michaels to be revealed as a talking block of wood, even more than hoping against hope that we'll never have to see Marlena EVER eat another strawberry dipped in whipped cream - is that somebody, anybody, would straighten that damned picture in Victor's childhood home that's hanging crooked.

Please.

[Frozendiva]

The Brady family is quiet and humble? Uh, Hurricane Sami, self righteous holier than thou Eric? Kayla, maybe. The others? Caroline and Victor, Roman having various kids with various women, John being Roman for a bit, Bo being a rebel, Kim having a not so quiet life…. Uh, no.

Roman’s hair looks different. Of course if no one found Kate’s body, she must be somewhere. Maybe she is on a fishing boat.

Megan must not want to go to the black hole prison, even though the Statesville Sundae Bar is having difficult times. Of course she tells the truth to Andrew Donovan.

Steph and Chad manage to find the warehouse? How is Kayla supposed to make the serum with nothing?

Harris had a moment of decency sending Hope to find amnesiac and brainwashed Bo. The end was nice and the show clocked in at 53 minutes with commercials here.

[peachmangosteen]

10 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

The end was nice and the show clocked in at 53 minutes with commercials here.

It was 37 minutes total. The running times have been all over the place lately. This week there was one that was only 34 minutes and then one that was 43 minutes.

[norcalgal]

7 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

It was 37 minutes total. The running times have been all over the place lately. This week there was one that was only 34 minutes and then one that was 43 minutes.

For a one hour show, it’s absolutely disgraceful that episode only had 34 minutes of actual show time.

[DaphneCat]

18 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

For a one hour show, it’s absolutely disgraceful that episode only had 34 minutes of actual show time.

Peacock only shows about 5 minutes of commercials so I don't find it too annoying.

I watched The Blacklist  on the NBC app because they show it a week before Peacock.  The number of commercial breaks was terrible.  It was so annoying I decided to wait the extra week to watch it on Peqcock.

[peachmangosteen]

I love the short episodes. I wish they were all in the 30 minute range.

It's not really a '1 hour show' anymore. They're on Peacock now so they don't have to worry about commercials like they do with broadcast. They can just make each episode however long they want.

[CanaryFan98]

54 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I love the short episodes. I wish they were all in the 30 minute range.

It's not really a '1 hour show' anymore. They're on Peacock now so they don't have to worry about commercials like they do with broadcast. They can just make each episode however long they want.

Not to mention we wouldn't have to deal with those long flashbacks of scenes we saw the other day.

[Frozendiva]

2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

It was 37 minutes total. The running times have been all over the place lately. This week there was one that was only 34 minutes and then one that was 43 minutes.

I do FF through the commercials, but even that still adds about 2 mins. Same with on demand viewing. 

[FnkyChkn34]

The Bo and Hope reunion is why I started watching this show again this year.  They better not screw this up!  But of course my expectations are low.  I thought KA did a good job with the last scene on Friday, and I'm looking forward to Monday's episode.

[4evaQuez]

I admit it; I was genuinely shocked at Shawn shooting Bo. I can't remember the last time I literally stood up during an episode of Days. Bravo.

[mariah23]

Oh Shawn gonna need therapy.

[Retired at last]

OK - I am definitely going to need a recap for today! Sounds like there was some action, for sure.

 

[FnkyChkn34]

2 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

I admit it; I was genuinely shocked at Shawn shooting Bo. I can't remember the last time I literally stood up during an episode of Days. Bravo.

I was too!  And why did he do it?  Sure, he was holding the gun on Hope, but he was swaying and wavering so much, it was pretty obvious that he wasn't going to shoot her...

1 hour ago, Retired at last said:

OK - I am definitely going to need a recap for today! Sounds like there was some action, for sure.

 

Hope found Bo, and he told her that he doesn't want her anymore and to not call him "Brady" because he's a Kiriakis.  After some back and forth, she wanted to see Steve and grabbed her gun, but Bo pulled his on her and told her to drop it, then took her to the top of a cliff.  (Horrible CGI here, btw.)  She pleaded with him and there was a flashback montage where he was remembering, and he called her Fancy Face.  As he did that, Shawn (who knew where to find Hope from Harris) and Steve (who dug his way through a wall with a spoon), came up on the cliff and Shawn shot Bo with no warning.  The show ended with Bo laying on the ground and Hope calling to him.  

[chediavolo]

On 4/22/2023 at 9:56 AM, DaphneCat said:

Peacock only shows about 5 minutes of commercials so I don't find it too annoying.

I watched The Blacklist  on the NBC app because they show it a week before Peacock.  The number of commercial breaks was terrible.  It was so annoying I decided to wait the extra week to watch it on Peqcock.

I started watching Yellowstone on the Peacock app. Don’t even get me started. on what a train wreck that show is , but I’m kind of hooked on some of the storylines. Anyway, the commercials are horrible. I wonder why D00L is pretty decent with short infrequent commercials, and other shows are  like watching old Timey live TV that you  can’t fast forward through

[FnkyChkn34]

45 minutes ago, chediavolo said:

I started watching Yellowstone on the Peacock app. Don’t even get me started. on what a train wreck that show is , but I’m kind of hooked on some of the storylines. Anyway, the commercials are horrible. I wonder why D00L is pretty decent with short infrequent commercials, and other shows are  like watching old Timey live TV that you  can’t fast forward through

Popularity.  Yellowstone has a lot more viewers, I'm guessing!

[brisbydog]

Hope: And now you are a grandfather! Wait until you meet Little Bo!

Me: Um? Claire?

[CanaryFan98]

34 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Hope: And now you are a grandfather! Wait until you meet Little Bo!

Me: Um? Claire?

This is why I wished Claire remained Phillip's child. For all of Kate's flaws she at least shows up for her grandchildren.

[DisneyBoy]

I remain unimpressed with this "Bo wants to be a CEO now like Victor!" storyline concept. It could not seem more forced. That aside, this was a decent episode.

I really, really enjoy seeing Marlena in a room with both John and Roman. There's so much history there between them. The way she talked him down and offered to give him a lift home felt very human and real and befitting a couple with their decades of mutual respect and love. John wasn't threatened at all either. Just three adults with a lot of love between them. Nice!

Love seeing Eileen back as Thomas, who barely got any screentime back in the day, but they're dropping the ball on the details. Thomas was noticeably taller than Susan and SMM back in the 90s. Eileen should have been wearing heeled shoes for an extra inch or two. Isn't Chad relatively tiny (less than 6 feet?) Thomas looked even smaller. They also used to lower Eileen's voice in the 90s, whereas here, they're doing nothing to make her sound more mannish, even though it would be easier to deepen her tone in post-production.

Anyway, while I realize Thomas is just getting the "hired thug" treatment here, it's fun to see him back in the mix (oh god, please don't make me regret saying that!)

Yay for Steve scooping his way out of the room. Did we really need so many scenes of that, though? I missed all of last week so I don't know if this built up tension or just seemed drawn-out.

I half wanted Hope, as she explained how difficult things had been after Bo's death, to say: "I...I was so lost! I even married RAFE, FFS! And shot Stefano for no apparent reason! And Aiden didn't die either, Brady - he came back and his son raped Ciara! And then I went to jail! And then dated Harris! And became Princess Gina again, kinda! It's just been fucking awful!"

I really felt like today's scenes of Hope hugging an angry, indifferent Bo mirrored the real-life evolution of KA's time of the show. PR peaces out, leaving KA hanging, and she finds her character unable to function without Bo there, even though he doesn't want to be there anymore :(

I hate that they took a vibrant character and made her 200% reliant on Bo being around. We get it. He's her "one true love!" But it's starting to feel like a put down that Hope has no identity beyond that (preaching to the choir here, but still).

And isn't it interesting that that pretty much every major story beat from the 50th anniversary has now been undone...WIll is alive (yay!)...Stefano didn't really die (yay?)...and neither did Aiden (...) ...and now Bo is alive as well (....yay?).

Let's just be grateful today's episode had no Ben in it. I was worried he'd be the one to find Bo, and get all the credit, and get Bo's worship and adoration.

The CGI cliffs were...awkward. Not the worst thing ever but...not great. Very soapy, I suppose. Shawn shooting his father though? Really? That's....so stupid. Why are they even bothering?

At least Doc's latest pantsuit was flattering. That lilac color was very feminine and pretty. She looked good for once.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by DisneyBoy

[kthomp38]

I was swooning over the flashbacks of Bo and Hope.  (After Sami they are my favorite!)  Then Fancy Face! Bang! Shawn! Credits! 😮

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, chediavolo said:

I started watching Yellowstone on the Peacock app. Don’t even get me started. on what a train wreck that show is , but I’m kind of hooked on some of the storylines. Anyway, the commercials are horrible. I wonder why D00L is pretty decent with short infrequent commercials, and other shows are  like watching old Timey live TV that you  can’t fast forward through

I've found that when shows are on Hulu that originally aired on network TV, they have far more commercials than shows that only air on Hulu. The same could be the case on Peacock.

I'm sorry, but I don't really give a single fuck about anything in today's episode. I'm ready to get back to Xander/Chloe, Li, Sloane, etc.

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I really felt like today's scenes of Hope hugging an angry, indifferent Bo mirrored the real-life evolution of KA's time of the show. PR peaces out, leaving KA hanging, and she finds her character unable to function without Bo there, even though he doesn't want to be there anymore :(

Again, though, that is more on the writing to me. And, again, good writing/writers were there for Bo sans Hope in the '90s. It is not there for Hope sans Bo. Not with Ron.

IMO, that is not Peter Reckell's fault.

But tomato, tomahto, blah blah.

[4evaQuez]

16 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Again, though, that is more on the writing to me. And, again, good writing/writers were there for Bo sans Hope in the '90s. It is not there for Hope sans Bo. Not with Ron.

I completely agree! Receiving bad writing doesn't mean a writer doesn't care about the character. The show obviously cared about Hope after PR's departure. Bringing on Daniel Cosgrove, a somewhat big name in Soaps, killing Stefano which was obviously supposed to be a big arc, the relationship with Rafe who the show saw as one of the leading male characters at the time, being promoted to Police Commissioner, the rivalry with a returned Sami, and even bringing back the Princess Gina persona just to keep Hope onscreen when the show obviously wasn't sure where to go with her. I think the show saw Hope as a priority, but they didn't know how to properly write for the character. That's not exclusive to Hope, unfortunately. 

2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I hate that they took a vibrant character and made her 200% reliant on Bo being around. We get it. He's her "one true love!" But it's starting to feel like a put down that Hope has no identity beyond that (preaching to the choir here, but still).

But Hope isn't reliant on Bo for a reason to have a purpose on the show, Meagan is. Andrew and Meagan have discussed or referenced Bo much more than Hope has this return. Hell, I actually think it's a failure in the writing that Hope hasn't thought more about Bo. However, from what we've seen, Hope was trying to build a romantic relationship with Harris, reestablishing her friendships with John and Steve, collaborating with Stephanie in their search for Kayla and Thomas and later Steve, and investigating the stolen prisms. Bo had nothing to do with Hope's identity or her reason to be around this return. 

Also, based on the current storyline for Bo, Hope would be beneficial as Hope has a stronger relationship with Victor than Bo does. This is a relationship that she's built independently of Bo.

[SouthernChick]

I teared up when Bo had those flashbacks and broke through the brainwashing. “Fancy Face?” Then dumbass Shawn had to pull the trigger. Aren’t cops supposed to say “put down your weapon” first? 

[FnkyChkn34]

4 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

I teared up when Bo had those flashbacks and broke through the brainwashing. “Fancy Face?” Then dumbass Shawn had to pull the trigger. Aren’t cops supposed to say “put down your weapon” first? 

Especially when it's your FATHER!??

[boes]

32 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

I teared up when Bo had those flashbacks and broke through the brainwashing. “Fancy Face?” Then dumbass Shawn had to pull the trigger. Aren’t cops supposed to say “put down your weapon” first? 

Maybe not these days, since nothing is fatal in Salem anyway.

[Artsda]

Wow the green screen on the cliff was bad. They couldn't make a fake set? They gave Gwen an entire newsroom. Bo and Hope couldn't get anything? Especially when they show all the old clips of them on location. 

I guess Claire doesn't count as a grandchild.

Loved the flashbacks. 

Well damn Shawn it's your father maybe tell stop or freeze or something? 

 

[SouthernChick]

It’s not Peter Reckell’s fault that Hope hasn’t been popular with other guys. She has sure had her pick of men….Patrick, Aiden, Rafe, Harris, John the Pawn…etc. It just hasn’t worked. Bo has only had Carly and Billie.
 

Edited April 25, 2023 by SouthernChick

[Frozendiva]

I enjoyed the flashbacks. When soaps had location shots and a bigger budget.

Shawn just couldn’t shoot his gun in the air? Was Bo really shot or just ducked? I can see brainwashed Bo not wanting his old life.  Lives change, people don’t want the same thing. Hope did date and marry, but things did not work out. Bad pairings, bad writing, etc.

I enjoyed the John/Marlena/Roman scenes. And Steve digging out of the wine cellar.

Thomas Banks with the ear bandage. LOL. Harris was right to let Hope see Bo on her own. 

[WendyCR72]

1 hour ago, SouthernChick said:

Bo has only had Carly and Billie.

How soon we forget poor sweet woman-turned-schemer Emmy Borden, who Bo slept with after Hope "died". (I know, not a "real" relationship, but Emmy certainly went hard for Bo. But she became just a stopgap for Carly.) 😉

She was played by Susan Diol, who was often a substitute as Alexis Davis on GH, when NLG had various medical issues in the early 2000s.

She was part of the Bo/Victor/Carly story line, as detailed in the link below.

https://soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/emmy.php

[boes]

OK, serious - for me - post.  But how happy are you all with the resurrection of Bo so far?  And Bo's reunion with Hope?

I thought KA did a really great job today, coming face to face with Bo.  Her emotions felt real and heartfelt.  Peter Reckell, on the other hand..... not so much.  I didn't expect a lot from him when he first came on screen after all these years of being off the show but IMO he hasn't delivered much at all, at least so far and it's been a while.  

I really hate to say it, but so far I'm very disappointed in Bo's resurrection.

ETA - oh yeah, what bonehead in the writers room seems to have forgotten that BO HAS BEEN A GRANDFATHER for one helluva long time, even before he died, and that kid's name is CLAIRE.

Lood Glord.,,,,

[FnkyChkn34]

3 hours ago, boes said:

OK, serious - for me - post.  But how happy are you all with the resurrection of Bo so far?  And Bo's reunion with Hope?

I thought KA did a really great job today, coming face to face with Bo.  Her emotions felt real and heartfelt.  Peter Reckell, on the other hand..... not so much.  I didn't expect a lot from him when he first came on screen after all these years of being off the show but IMO he hasn't delivered much at all, at least so far and it's been a while.  

I really hate to say it, but so far I'm very disappointed in Bo's resurrection.

ETA - oh yeah, what bonehead in the writers room seems to have forgotten that BO HAS BEEN A GRANDFATHER for one helluva long time, even before he died, and that kid's name is CLAIRE.

Lood Glord.,,,,

I can't tell if Peter Reckell forgot how to act, or if he's doing it on purpose because Bo is brainwashed? I guess we'll see now, presuming he's had that "breakthrough."

[peachmangosteen]

12 hours ago, Artsda said:

They gave Gwen an entire newsroom.

It's two cubicles that are barely decorated.

The CGI is pretty bad (the stuff on the cliff is even worse than the hospital rooftop and warehouse) but I appreciate them trying something lol.

[4evaQuez]

7 hours ago, boes said:

OK, serious - for me - post.  But how happy are you all with the resurrection of Bo so far?  And Bo's reunion with Hope?

I think the actual reunion has been splendid. I loved the flashbacks from yesterday, Hope breaking whatever happened to Bo, and I loved the dream reunion today which strongly implies it gave Bo a reason to live again. I think the actual reunion feels very Bope. I think the two have always balanced some of the outlandishness you expect of a Soap with the groundedness of their relationship. The actual reunion has worked perfectly for me.

They used the word "brainwashed" today, but that doesn't really make sense. I'm not quite certain why Chad is there. The actual storyline has been boring, and the ending feels like the writers either ran out of time or just didn't care. Why is Harris just telling everyone who asks about his lying to Hope for instance?

7 hours ago, boes said:

ETA - oh yeah, what bonehead in the writers room seems to have forgotten that BO HAS BEEN A GRANDFATHER for one helluva long time, even before he died, and that kid's name is CLAIRE.

That's in character for Hope. Hope rarely acknowledges Claire. I still remember a scene with Hope, Claire, and Shawn when they were looking for Eve in New York after the Cin wedding explosion. The three are sitting at a table and Hope outright refuses to look at or acknowledge Claire's presence there. This was ORK's Claire who had a tendency for toddler-like temper tantrums, so it was even more obvious because the actress was making decisions that begs for attention, and Hope/KA refused to acknowledge her. I can't remember if Hope and ID's Claire ever shared a scene with each other. That alone speaks volumes.

As for today, Johnny/Chanel/Tripp/Wendy is such a waste of time. I really dislike Carson's/Johnny's acting decisions. Today, when he yelled at Leo, was just pathetic and embarrassing. I hate when writers try to recreate a character via their child. I think that's BB's Shawn's biggest problem. However, I can't imagine Sami and EJ's kid being anything like Carson's Johnny. He feels too mellow, too non-threatening, too stable. Too emotionally healthy. The way he wanted to explain the biscuits to Wendy felt too unlike Sami, especially, who would be his primary caregiver since EJ was partly dead and partly in a coma. I know a lot of people hated Allie, but Allie at least had this rashness to her that felt very Sami and WN's Roman. She sometimes just acted and thought about the consequences later like WN's Roman. Johnny feels like he was Clark Kent's 1st cousin, raised on a farm in Kansas to parents who loved and cared for him and tried to instill a strong sense of morality and regard for others. That's simply not who Sami is.

I go back and forth on Leo. Today was a day when I didn't understand why he was there.

[SouthernChick]

4 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I can't tell if Peter Reckell forgot how to act, or if he's doing it on purpose because Bo is brainwashed? I guess we'll see now, presuming he's had that "breakthrough."

I think he was acting brainwashed. 

[Nique]

It's well known that the Claire/Hope stuff is cause KA didn't want to be seen as a grandma. Like your character had a child at 20/21 Hope/Bo were young parents, it stands to reason your child may have a child in their 20s🙄You never saw Claire ever call her grandma. Make it make sense 

It wasn't because Claire "was attention seeking teenager" it was cause someone ego was too big for it's britches. 

I hate to break it to KA but itch your old Get the fuck over it & deal with it 

You don't see Alison Sweeney acting like that & Sami is a double grandma. Sami & Ali are only in the mid 40s. But Ali has Class😉

Thank God for Jarlena and Bo for acting like real grandparents 

[Mckinnonsgirl]

1 hour ago, Nique said:

It's well known that the Claire/Hope stuff is cause KA didn't want to be seen as a grandma. Like your character had a child at 20/21 Hope/Bo were young parents, it stands to reason your child may have a child in their 20s🙄You never saw Claire ever call her grandma. Make it make sense 

It wasn't because Claire "was attention seeking teenager" it was cause someone ego was too big for it's britches. 

I hate to break it to KA but itch your old Get the fuck over it & deal with it 

You don't see Alison Sweeney acting like that & Sami is a double grandma. Sami & Ali are only in the mid 40s. But Ali has Class😉

Thank God for Jarlena and Bo for acting like real grandparents 

I can see you aren't a fan of Kristian's, but as a fan I've never heard she was against portraying a Grandmother.

We can agree to disagree on the subject.

As for the show, I think Peter and Kristian are doing a great job with the material they've been given, that said, the writing ,  direction, and general respect for the rich history that was  valued in the heyday of DOOL will never be again,  which by this viewers standards is a big detraction.

That being said, I'm here for Kristian and Peter and Bo and Hope, so I'm going to relish every moment of it. 

[Chellfairy]

Alrighty, it’s OFFICIAL, for me at least, Trippy and Wendy are the most boring pair. Doesn’t work. I used to like her, yet now I do not want to see her with  anyone. I’d rather see Channel and Johnny together..way more chemistry.

Give me more of Xander and Chloe, Rafe and Dukie!!

Shawn D, as usual, worst cop ever! Worst son, husband and dad. Did I forget anything?

I am surprised that BenAlex didn’t show up in Greece.
 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Chellfairy

[DisneyBoy]

9 minutes ago, Chellfairy said:

Alrighty, it’s OFFICIAL, for me at least, Trippy and Wendy are the most boring pair. Doesn’t work. I used to like her, yet now I do not want to see her with  anyone. I’d rather see Channel and Johnny together..way more chemistry.

Yeah, I hate to say it, but Tripp keeps getting stuck in these zero chemistry pairings. I still think he's a good actor and could have something great if they were to write better storylines for him, but thus far....zzzzzzz.

Wendy is dull and can leave any day now. She and Allie are on the same level for me.

So, is it safe to say these 24 hours have been the most traumatic of Hope's entire life? She finds Bo, freaks out, then he wants nothing to do with her, then he tries to execute her, then she breaks through to him, then her son shoots him, then he dies in the ER, then she passes out, then she finds out he's pulling through, then she finds out he's in a coma....! That's...a lot to process in only a couple of hours!

I LOVED seeing Loretta again. That was a terrific surprise and it made me smile. I didn't enjoy Angella last summer in Beyond Salem, but if that was all for this payoff, I'll take it.

Hearing Shawn explain why he fired on his Dad helped me wrap my head around it. It's true - they all think Bo killed Kate, right? So, he's capable of killing Hope too. That makes some sense. I didn't think Shawn's portrayer did fantastic work today though. He didn't shed any actual tears, did he?

I wonder how the show will address Victor finding out about Bo. Obviously, he won't be on-screen...but maybe they'll do what they did with Will/Caroline and have Victor pass in his sleep and take Bo's place in the afterlife or something? I don't know.

...was Thomas seen in today's episode? I missed the first 10 minutes, and then Harris looked down towards him on the floor...but then Kayla, Chad and Stefanie didn't seem to maneuver around a body on their way out.

[Chellfairy]

1 hour ago, DisneyBoy said:

Yeah, I hate to say it, but Tripp keeps getting stuck in these zero chemistry pairings. I still think he's a good actor and could have something great if they were to write better storylines for him, but thus far....zzzzzzz.

Wendy is dull and can leave any day now. She and Allie are on the same level for me.

So, is it safe to say these 24 hours have been the most traumatic of Hope's entire life? She finds Bo, freaks out, then he wants nothing to do with her, then he tries to execute her, then she breaks through to him, then her son shoots him, then he dies in the ER, then she passes out, then she finds out he's pulling through, then she finds out he's in a coma....! That's...a lot to process in only a couple of hours!

I LOVED seeing Loretta again. That was a terrific surprise and it made me smile. I didn't enjoy Angella last summer in Beyond Salem, but if that was all for this payoff, I'll take it.

Hearing Shawn explain why he fired on his Dad helped me wrap my head around it. It's true - they all think Bo killed Kate, right? So, he's capable of killing Hope too. That makes some sense. I didn't think Shawn's portrayer did fantastic work today though. He didn't shed any actual tears, did he?

I wonder how the show will address Victor finding out about Bo. Obviously, he won't be on-screen...but maybe they'll do what they did with Will/Caroline and have Victor pass in his sleep and take Bo's place in the afterlife or something? I don't know.

...was Thomas seen in today's episode? I missed the first 10 minutes, and then Harris looked down towards him on the floor...but then Kayla, Chad and Stefanie didn't seem to maneuver around a body on their way out.

Sure, I am not dissing his acting skills. I agree his pairings along with the crap writing is horrible. Not sure where they can go from here, except maybe make him a little bit of a villain.?? As far as Wendy goes, my idea would be put her with BenAlex, Stephanie, StefanJake and ship them off to Nevercomeback Land. 
No Thomas in todays epi.

[Nique]

2 hours ago, Mckinnonsgirl said:

I can see you aren't a fan of Kristian's, but as a fan I've never heard she was against portraying a Grandmother.

We can agree to disagree on the subject.

As for the show, I think Peter and Kristian are doing a great job with the material they've been given, that said, the writing ,  direction, and general respect for the rich history that was  valued in the heyday of DOOL will never be again,  which by this viewers standards is a big detraction.

That being said, I'm here for Kristian and Peter and Bo and Hope, so I'm going to relish every moment of it. 

I don't recall every saying I wasn't a fan I don't dislike her I like her quite well. What I don't like is Shady shit from actor's fan or not. This is a problem stemming with Hope/KA you don't see it with Bo/PR or the DH's. It started when Claire was aged with ORK & has been going on 8 yrs. We're at the point where Claire existence & her being B/H 1st grandchild is being rewritten & wiped out. 

It be one thing if Hope's funny feelings about Claire were due to her trying to set her wretched child on fire but it's not. What good reason for Hope to act like Ciara spawn with a serial killer was Bo and her's only grandchild? To act like it was Bo's 1st & it wasn't. There is a complex somewhere to erase part of B/H with Claire.

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, Nique said:

You never saw Claire ever call her grandma. 

She did at least once. I remember because there were a lot of people here who were surprised by it lol.

I do feel like they've pretty much erased Claire from the show in general though, which is odd.

I liked Wendy so much when she first showed up and I'm not ready to completely throw her aside yet, but ever since she started wearing the same ugly dresses that all the women do she really has become less fun to watch. 

I also still like Tripp but if all they're ever going to do with him is make him a loser in a love triangle they can just get rid of him. It's ridiculous.

[Nique]

13 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

She did at least once. I remember because there was a lot of people here who were surprised by it lol.

I do feel like they've pretty much erased Claire from the show in general though, which is odd.

I liked Wendy so much when she first showed up and I'm not ready to completely throw her aside yet, but ever since she started wearing the same ugly dresses that all the women do she really has become less fun to watch. 

I also still like Tripp but if all they're ever going to do with him is make him a loser in a love triangle they can just get rid of him. It's ridiculous.

It was grandma hope at her wedding to baboon rafe wasn't it? I forgot all about that. When she was trying to get her aside to tell about Rafe/Sami

[CanaryFan98]

2 minutes ago, Nique said:

It was grandma hope at her wedding to baboon rafe wasn't it? I forgot all about that. When she was trying to get her aside to tell about Rafe/Sami

I saw it more with ID's Claire tbh in the few scenes they had. I think the show screwed up SORASing Claire/Ciara/Allie/Johnny like they did. They could've had them grow in RT. That doesn't mean they have to be onscreen but the occasional appearance. I feel like aging Claire the way they did really screwed up Shelle the most tbh.