Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[peachmangosteen]

Today's episode was entertaining as hell. They're really killing it this week. 

8 minutes ago, rcc said:

Did anyone catch what KL had written on his upper back when Sara took off Rex's shirt?

I can't really make it out but it kinda looks like No--s (I can't make out the 2 letters between the o and s) Or-a (I can't make out the letter between the r and a).

[CanaryFan98]

8 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I do wonder if they'll make Allie not giving a shit about Henry into a thing or if it's just the usual situation where they just don't show the kids but we're meant to assume they're there and being taken care of. I'm assuming the latter but I'd be more interested in them making Allie into a bitchy party girl who doesn't wanna deal with her kid tbh.

That would actually be an interesting story for her and I don't even like Allie much but its way more interesting than her love life. They could've brought Lucas back and see how her drinking is affecting her parenting and tie it to his alcoholism.  How Allie secretly resents Henry because she didn't originally want him to begin with but was pressured by Sami to keep him despite the fact he's a neverending reminder of her rapist. There's so many ways htis could go..

That's too character driven and family oriented for this show though. 

[rcc]

47 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Today's episode was entertaining as hell. They're really killing it this week. 

I can't really make it out but it kinda looks like No--s (I can't make out the 2 letters between the o and s) Or-a (I can't make out the letter between the r and a).

The script font is hard to read.

[RedElf]

1 hour ago, rcc said:

Did anyone catch what KL had written on his upper back when Sara took off Rex's shirt?

It looks like "Novis Ora"?

 

Is Maggie as protective of her pillows as she is of her rugs and her figurines?

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, SouthernChick said:

I was glad Xander gave Jack some hard truths today. Jack’s love for Gwen is conditional just like Victor’s love for Xander is.

Good. And Gwen doesn't deserve unconditional ANYTHING after all she has done to Jack's loved ones.

[WendyCR72]

Just now, Elio Kukui said:

Like the loved ones in question are so perfect themselves.

Considering the lengths Gwen went to? With the answer of whether she KILLED Laura still uncertain?

Still stand by what I said.

[Panopticon]

1 hour ago, CanaryFan98 said:

That would actually be an interesting story for her and I don't even like Allie much but its way more interesting than her love life. They could've brought Lucas back and see how her drinking is affecting her parenting and tie it to his alcoholism.  How Allie secretly resents Henry because she didn't originally want him to begin with but was pressured by Sami to keep him despite the fact he's a neverending reminder of her rapist. There's so many ways htis could go..

That's too character driven and family oriented for this show though. 

Bonus points if Allie also secretly resents Lucas for not fighting for custody of HER as a kid the way he always fought for Will. Instead, Lucas ceded control to Sami and Allie has implied several times that she really didn't care to be dragged around while Sami chased after EJ.

Double bonus points if the topic of rape finally has Allie/Johnny learning on camera exactly how they came to have different fathers. I would ten thousand times rather see them grapple with that than love triangle over Chanel or anyone else.

But even without any of that, I love it when Days has the nerve to show a character who isn't evil but just... isn't that cut out for day-to-day parenting. I always had a soft spot for Anna, who adored Carrie but knew well and good that Carrie would be better off with her father and assorted step-parents. I also found it interesting that Gabrielle gave Eve up for adoption not for typical soap reasons (blackmail, physical fear of the father, etc.) but because she didn't want to raise a child if she couldn't have a romantic relationship with the father.

And Allie is still so young. If the show lasts, how would it be for Allie ten years down the line when she feels ready to be a mom, but knows she wasn't a great parent to her firstborn?

[Frozendiva]

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Considering the lengths Gwen went to? With the answer of whether she KILLED Laura still uncertain?

Still stand by what I said.

Too bad that the three ladies currently in the afterlife can’t ask her.

[WendyCR72]

5 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Too bad that the three ladies currently in the afterlife can’t ask her.

And besmirch Ron's most-wonderful pet? Surely, you jest!

[Frozendiva]

Wonder if anyone in the Kiriakis mansion uses a cushion as a soft tv table to eat dinner. Sarah sure gave it to the cushion. Not the best idea to rebound with Rex, but…. Xander is far worse.

Unconditional love is hard. Love without need or expectation. Yeah, Xander did give Jack some truths. Jack does not need to condone every action Gwen does. And Jack, if you are blackmailed about the paper, do put in a loophole to get it back. Sounds like it will turn into a tabloid.

Wendy, good for you for not wanting to be hurt by anyone. Johnny still does have feelings for Chanel to resolve, Allie is angry at the world and is lashing out. Chanel is confused and Tripp is kinda in the middle. One would think that one would drink local wines in Italy. Sure, there is a chance that you can find wine from the same vineyard. Not always the same. 

At least poor Henry is with someone.
 

 

[Artsda]

Jack still wanna defend and forgive and blame poor Gwen for everything she does? She showed more her vile colors.  She can die anytime. 

[WendyCR72]

12 minutes ago, Elio Kukui said:

So did his erstwhile "best mate," though that seems to be going unnoticed.

But Xander isn't his demon spawn, who has been screaming about being entitled to Daddy's wub.

So...

[WendyCR72]

24 minutes ago, Elio Kukui said:

Irrelevant.  They both pulled that shit at the end, so they both should be held accountable.

Difference of opinion. Xander isn't Jack's family. He was a casual buddy. But Gwen's sole "poor me marathon" has been all about how she had no daddy and demands his love.

A strange way to go about it. No wonder Jack won't love her unconditionally. I wouldn't even try, so Jack is better than I am.

Still hope Jack screws them both over somehow.

3 hours ago, Panopticon said:

Bonus points if Allie also secretly resents Lucas for not fighting for custody of HER as a kid the way he always fought for Will. Instead, Lucas ceded control to Sami and Allie has implied several times that she really didn't care to be dragged around while Sami chased after EJ.

Double bonus points if the topic of rape finally has Allie/Johnny learning on camera exactly how they came to have different fathers. I would ten thousand times rather see them grapple with that than love triangle over Chanel or anyone else.

But even without any of that, I love it when Days has the nerve to show a character who isn't evil but just... isn't that cut out for day-to-day parenting. I always had a soft spot for Anna, who adored Carrie but knew well and good that Carrie would be better off with her father and assorted step-parents. I also found it interesting that Gabrielle gave Eve up for adoption not for typical soap reasons (blackmail, physical fear of the father, etc.) but because she didn't want to raise a child if she couldn't have a romantic relationship with the father.

And Allie is still so young. If the show lasts, how would it be for Allie ten years down the line when she feels ready to be a mom, but knows she wasn't a great parent to her firstborn?

It's clear most of the posters here have better, saner (and more CHARACTER-DRIVEN!) story ideas than the tribe of hacks at Days does.

[Frozendiva]

If Xander could be a good mate to Jack, he would be giving Gwen the rope and ultimately save Jack from his own daughter.

[WendyCR72]

3 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

If Xander could be a good mate to Jack, he would be giving Gwen the rope and ultimately save Jack from his own daughter.

If only.

[boes]

6 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

Like the loved ones in question are so perfect themselves.

No, she doesn't.  People don't deserve things based on how bad other people are, they deserve them based on how good they are, or how hard they try to be.  

Abigail was a 1st class entitled, myopic, pain in the ass (though a little less so when Marci Miller played her).  Jack was a rapist, no argument there, but one who had not only reformed, but regretted his actions and fought for his redemption for years.

Sarah was an innocent in all of Gwen's shenanigans, except for being an impediment in Gwen's lethal crush.

None of them deserved what happened to them, what Gwen was willing to put them through because of their own demerits.  Gwen went the extra mile and acted very badly against them entirely for her own gain.  Her sins were chosen ones, made with full understanding of the harm she was causing.  Gwen's a right bint.

(Nobody will ever know how painful it is for me to EVER say anything remotely nice about Abigail).

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by boes

[WendyCR72]

6 minutes ago, boes said:

(Nobody will ever know how painful it is for me to EVER say anything remotely nice about Abigail).

I can just picture the hives breaking out as you typed, @boes. LOL!

1 hour ago, Elio Kukui said:

Not gonna happen.  Thankfully.  Xander would never harm her in any way

If Xander can turn on Sarah, the woman he claimed to love, and his "friend" Jack, he can (and likely will eventually) turn on Gwennie. She's not special.

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

She's literally the only one left in his corner (unless we find out Maggie and increasingly useless Bonnie are still kissing his ass despite him literally getting an innocent woman killed). 

That really puts a damper on Xander's 'no one gives me the benefit of the doubt' pity party. Gwen can actually say that since now even her own dad is like peace out but Xander still has 2 people going to bat for him, one of whom he kidnapped lol. 

[boes]

Xander's argument with Jack was pretty weak and his comparison of himself with Victor and Jack with Gwen was ludicrous.

Victor has always been a total jerk with Xander, never giving him the benefit of the doubt and never, in my memory at least, showing him an ounce of affection.  That didn't stop Victor from willingly using Xander for his own ends, playing on Xander's lack of morality and his immense desire to be treated by Victor as part of the family.  As I remember it, Xander was damned from childhood by Victor because Victor couldn't stand his previously unmentioned brother, Xander's father.  His rejection coupled with an alcoholic mother undoubtedly contributed to Xander's amoral and immoral ways.

Unlike Victor with Xander, Jack knew nothing of Gwen's existence, but once he did know, he did everything he could to bring the retcon horror into the family, even after all the crap she'd pulled on him, Jennifer and Abigail.  He supported her at every turn and even foisted her on his wife's family by having her live in the Horton home.  Even Jennifer did her best to put up with her, after all she'd done to her, Jack and Abigail, even after she'd been involved in her own mother's death.  He basically gave her free reign and chance after chance after chance until finally he'd been pushed to the wall with her behavior.  The only surprise is that Jack hadn't reached his limit earlier, since Gwen neither has - nor has any interest in developing any kind of a moral center.  She and Xander, at this point, with all the chances they've been given, are no victims.

Off topic - I see so many instances of Ron C. trying to re-create OLTL in Salem with how he writes his characters, but I wish he's stop trying to make Leo into the Salem version of David Vickers.  He's not.  And Greg Rikaart is certainly NO Tuc Watkins.

Edited February 10, 2023 by boes

[norcalgal]

1 hour ago, boes said:

Xander's argument with Jack was pretty weak and his comparison of himself with Victor and Jack with Gwen was ludicrous.

Victor has always been a total jerk with Xander, never giving him the benefit of the doubt and never, in my memory at least, showing him an ounce of affection.  That didn't stop Victor from willingly using Xander for his own ends, playing on Xander's lack of morality and his immense desire to be treated by Victor as part of the family.  As I remember it, Xander was damned from childhood by Victor because Victor couldn't stand his previously unmentioned brother, Xander's father.  His rejection coupled with an alcoholic mother undoubtedly contributed to Xander's amoral and immoral ways.

Unlike Victor with Xander, Jack knew nothing of Gwen's existence, but once he did know, he did everything he could to bring the retcon horror into the family, even after all the crap she'd pulled on him, Jennifer and Abigail.  He supported her at every turn and even foisted her on his wife's family by having her live in the Horton home.  Even Jennifer did her best to put up with her, after all she'd done to her, Jack and Abigail, even after she'd been involved in her own mother's death.  He basically gave her free reign and chance after chance after chance until finally he'd been pushed to the wall with her behavior.  The only surprise is that Jack hadn't reached his limit earlier, and that Gwen neither has, nor has an interest, in developing any kind of a moral center.  She and Xander, at this point, with all the chances they've been given, are no victims.

Soooo much THIS to all the above.  Wish I could give more than one emoticon:

heart, thumbs up, and applause

Perfect summation.

[DisneyBoy]

Okay, braving the show today. Clearly I've missed a bunch but...let's see what's up.

 

Funny how Rex suddenly looks like a walk in the park compared to Xander. Funny the difference a few years can make. What's his baby situation with Mimi? Will he get scenes with BonBon while they're both in town?

I hate Sarah's hair. It didn't bother me before, but I am tired of it now, I have to admit. Wig her please.

Jack and Jennifer are now in their own private show of bad acting. It's remarkable.

When did Jennifer hit Gwen with her car? Sorry I missed that! 😄

Paulina's facial expressions or her voice - which is worse?

Yay Johnny for grilling Xander. Boo that the writers never put in the time and effort to show him actually having a deep relationship with his grandmother. Lip service isn't compelling.

Chanel is beautiful.

Alex needs to shut up. Pretty funny though that they've literally reduced RSW to a sex object.

Allie seems not especially sad about hurting Chanel. Makes me like her less, even if they're both cheating.

I really want ONE SCENE of Allie being woken up by her infant son in the middle of all these sexual encounters. She deserves it. Bonus points if he throws up in Alex's mouth. And poops on his abs.

Nevermind. The creative team might enjoy that too much 🤢.

Leo, please shut up and go away. With Gwen. And the PJs. Bye!

Johnny, don't fuck with Xander. Seriously. He's almost killed half the cast. And he's twice your size.

Still, nice effort. I saw a little Joe/Stefano in him today. A little...but it was nice. 👏

[Panopticon]

2 hours ago, boes said:

Off topic - I see so many instances of Ron C. trying to re-create OLTL in Salem with how he writes his characters, but I wish he's stop trying to make Leo into the Salem version of David Vickers.  He's not.  And Greg Rikaart is certainly NO Tuc Watkins.

Oh dear god. I knew Ron was open about, say, giving lines to Chanel that were originally meant for Destiny Evans, but the David/Leo thing hadn’t occurred to me. But you’re clearly correct. 

Annnd, NO. Ten thousand times no. Not in this universe or any other. Tuc Watkins was a gem in that role and cannot be replicated. All David Vickers imitators are annoying, excruciating, and must die in a fire.

(Also: my iPad has not forgotten its OLTL fandom, because I tried to type “Vickers” and the autocorrect went for “Vickerman.” And to Ron’s credit, the Vickerman premiere was a truly glorious if campy soap moment. Hold the diploma!) 

[peachmangosteen]

Another good episode. I'm entertained.

OK, can this please be the end of Xander pretending like he wants to be good and then reverting back to a bad guy when someone is marginally mean to him and/or he needs money? He's such a whiny baby lol. 

I actually enjoyed Alex today. His 'Look on the bright side, maybe they cheated, too!' to Allie was amazing. Allie's reaction to that was great, too. And their non-verbal reactions to Chanel at the door were funny.

Rex's 'Actually, I was under her,' was perfectly delivered.

[WendyCR72]

4 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Leo, please shut up and go away. With Gwen. And the PJs. Bye!

Said it before, will say it again - even if sort of in bad taste: I'd take Swamp Thing (Chelsea - and I hated her!) and her horrendous driving skills with Leo and Gwen in Zack's place, ASAP.

[Artsda]

Good for Johnny go all Dimera on Xander. I want to see EJ also react.

Johnny actually shows he's mourning his grandmother where Joey & Steffy could care less about their own mother to grieve. 

Paulina needs to shut up.  She keeps taking Allie side and she doesn't deserve it. Paulina seems to want her daughter with someone who is treating her like crap. Johnny has been much better for Chanel lately. 

Jennifer go confess and don't give in the trash Gwen.

Nice guys finish last?  Xander thought himself as the nice guy? 

[Frozendiva]

So Allie has an issue with a fully clothed Alex in her apartment? He could have stayed there and slept on the couch. I did notice that the apartment is fancy enough to have its own en-suite bath and a huge bedroom.

Leo and Gwen, please take the next bus out of Salem. The two of you working for a real newspaper? 

First Xander’s ego is rightfully bruised by Johnny DiMera and then by Sarah and Rex. What is sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose. The divorce papers are signed and both can make idiotic choices.  Xander got a bigger bruise from Sarah, so now he will be childish and take over the paper.

Jack, you are smarter than your own daughter and her conman friend and you can wiggle the paper back. Or just have Jennifer admit to hitting Gwen and maybe she won’t press charges.

Paulina, say out of your daughter’s life. The waffles did look good.
 

 

[Soapy Goddess]

13 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I hate Sarah's hair. It didn't bother me before, but I am tired of it now, I have to admit.

I like her pixie look. It's WAY better than those "wings" she was sporting.

[DaphneCat]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I like her pixie look. It's WAY better than those "wings" she was sporting.

I agree, this is one of the better haircuts she's had.

[brisbydog]

On 2/10/2023 at 11:40 AM, boes said:

Xander's argument with Jack was pretty weak and his comparison of himself with Victor and Jack with Gwen was ludicrous.

Victor has always been a total jerk with Xander, never giving him the benefit of the doubt and never, in my memory at least, showing him an ounce of affection.  That didn't stop Victor from willingly using Xander for his own ends, playing on Xander's lack of morality and his immense desire to be treated by Victor as part of the family.  As I remember it, Xander was damned from childhood by Victor because Victor couldn't stand his previously unmentioned brother, Xander's father.  His rejection coupled with an alcoholic mother undoubtedly contributed to Xander's amoral and immoral ways.

I remember two genuine Victor moments with Xander. He gave him a special family coin before his first failed wedding to Sarah and said Xander's father would have wanted him to have it. And I recall him in hospital, post stabbing I think, telling Xander he was a true Kiriakis and he was proud of him. This approval was significant to Xander. He seems to crave this kind of affirmation from those he loves then will conform to do whatever they want to keep it. Gwen is right that he wants to be the man Sarah needs him to be but he doesn't have the character to do it for himself 

Edited February 13, 2023 by brisbydog

[DisneyBoy]

On 2/10/2023 at 11:40 AM, boes said:

Victor has always been a total jerk with Xander, never giving him the benefit of the doubt and never, in my memory at least, showing him an ounce of affection.

Mostly, yes, but Victor did soften towards him in the last 3 years, particularly when Xander lied to protect Maggie from knowing she "caused" the accident that killed Adrienne and Sarah's baby.

Even when (useless) Philip returned, Victor could have ousted Xander from his promised position at Titan but instead had them share duties. That's something.

It was a yoyo-ing type of respect to be sure but there was more there of late than there was at the start.

I'm glad now that they at least gave poor Xander that, with Victor soon to be gone for good.

So weird knowing nothing will be written in about him until like...May at least. Has he been referenced as doing things off-camera even since the Xmas episode?

[Kktjones]

On 2/9/2023 at 9:34 AM, boes said:

Allie isn't ignoring Henry, he's not there.

Henry is finishing up his medical degree and will be starting at University Hospital next week.  And getting possessed by the Devil, while falling for Gabi, Chanel and Paulina simultaneously.

Kids grow up so fast these days.

 

Um...I thought this was a no spoliers thread 😉

[WendyCR72]

As they say, one's person's treasure is another's trash. No way did I buy Jack caving regarding The Spectator.

Not the Jack Deveraux I remember.

But then I remember this is all in service of Pet Gwen and...bleah.

I hope Jack has a plan to destroy both of them. And if it can somehow be revealed that Gwen and Jack are NOT father/daughter, that can be a very Special Spring/Summer Christmas, for me.

[Artsda]

What proof does Gwen have Jenn hit her? Her wonderful trustworthy word?  Jack never should have gave in to those two. Gwen doesn't deserve anything after what she did to Abby & Sarah. 

Xander can be blackmailed back he did kidnap Bonnie and half the town knows. 

Let's see who Paulina blames for Allie cheating because it's always everyone fault but Allie. Chanel fault, Johnny fault, Alex fault.  

[sas616]

Deleted because I was in the wrong soap.  

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by sas616

[Frozendiva]

I too hope Jack will have a plan to get his newspaper back. He is older now, so maybe some of the passion is gone, but it is and was his baby. Who knows, maybe Xander is playing the long con on Gwen. It is a dumb story as Gwen has no interest or talent in journalism. Jack will be able to get it almost for free in a short time.

All the actors did well, but Jen just wasn’t herself.

Chanel, it is best that you drop Allie. It just isn’t going to work for you both right now. How dumb of Alex to not hide in the bathroom.

Gabi, do you feel you are in any place to give love advice to your soon to be ex’s little sister? Johnny right now is a semi nice guy. Wendy should keep her options open.

Sonny, you go ahead and tell Alex about the paper. His life isn’t great with Stephanie sort of choosing Chad. Paulina, Allie is responsible for her behavior. Chanel is lucky to get out.

[Soapy Goddess]

16 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

Alex just can't help destroying relationships, can he?  First, he tanks his own with Stephanie, and now he's tanked Allie and Chanel's.

He might have tanked his relationship with Stephanie, but Allie tanked her OWN relationship. Allie is far from the innocent that she likes to portray.

[methodwriter85]

5 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

but Jen just wasn’t herself

Well, yeah. That's Dixie Martin from Pine Valley.

Edited February 14, 2023 by methodwriter85

[DisneyBoy]

I've never seen someone find booze too strong before on a soap. I enjoyed Chad spitting it out and walking away. Yeah sure it was drugged (why exactly?) but still. Straight whisky/scotch is...a lot.

"Glad you got your feelings back for Gabi!" Funny how Rolfe can give people feelings or take them away. 🙄 Maybe he can make me like the show again.

God, Gabi is pathetic. If the holiday is idiotic, why are you pouting like a 5 year old? And dressed like a Nickelodeon kid's show host?

"Chloe and her gigantic...arias!" 🤨 Is that a boob joke?

Stefanie is way too smiley for her mother being dead. I mean, I hate them doing this since it's all super fake, but still. Crying at home or frowning seem more likely.

Sloan has really improved since she first appeared. Now I see why you guys are enjoying her!

Li is great. So, so happy he's sticking around. What big loveable dope.

Nicole looks okay. Bit too orange but the longer hair is nice and so is the off the shoulder top. Now GO KISS ERIC FFS. REPEATEDLY! He's standing in some great lighting.

[peachmangosteen]

Sometimes it feels like this show is made specifically for me. Good times!

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

Chad and Stephanie are . . . okay, I guess.  I still think that Chad should've waited a whole year before being with anyone else, not seven months.  But I guess soaps have different mourning periods.

I don't mind him with Stephanie, prefer her to Abigail honestly (less baggage) but I agree it's moving waaay too fast. Sending his kids out to give her gifts? Like...really dude? They just lost their Mommy a little while ago. And she's barely your girlfriend. It would be much better for Chad (and the writers) to let this develop slowly over time. Too bad that's not a phrase in Ron's vocabulary.

For this couple to last and be embraced, they'd need a strong foundation. Do they have one at this point?

2 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

That said, I was glad to see Jada and Stephanie talking.  After they first met a few months ago, there was no follow-up till now.

I was wondering. So glad they didn't become a thing. There was no chemistry there. I was privately wondering if Ron was (pardon the term I can't think of another one) aborting their relationship so quickly because he could see they didn't have much chemistry, or if the point from the outset was to tell a story about someone getting an abortion and it not destroying her reputation, but rather being a good thing for the two adults involved. But then...the emphasis was put on Nicole pressuring her so...I'm not really sure what the angle was there.

In any case, never put them together again. Eric and Nicole forever! LOL

2 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

I did like the Li/Sloan scenes, and if both couples reunite, maybe he could give these two a try.  Maybe.

Yeah, their scenes did feel chem-testy. I liked they both but didn't see it.

I was about to ask if Sloane had crossed Kate's path yet, since they seem so alike, but then I remembered she's "dead" *eye roll* so I guess not.

2 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

Honestly, don't really care one way or another about Stefan and Gabi.  I'd rather see Gabi make up with Li, if I'm being quite honest.

Come here and collect your cookie! You're on the right team!

2 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

Glad to hear that Chloe's okay.  Just taking some time away from Salem to gather her thoughts about what's going on.  I haven't heard anything about Nadia leaving, so maybe she just left on vacation around this time?  I hope she gets back and fixes things with Brady.

I don't. Brady needs to focus on himself and stop playing The Bachelor. I hope someday Philip will be a likeable character again and he and Chloe can reconnect.

 

EDIT: Whoops, I thought you'd written "Eric and Jada talking"! LOL - my bad.

Edited February 15, 2023 by DisneyBoy

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

I hope she gets back and fixes things with Brady.

Pretty much this, for me. They were once married, they know each other's ins and outs, and - for me - Chloe makes Brady less of a flake.

(For me, with JKJ's last go-'round, all I saw from Chloe to Phillip was barely-concealed revulsion, so...if anything, maybe he can stalk Belle. Lord knows she and Shawn are not exactly a shining beacon of love eternal.)

[DisneyBoy]

Oh god, I don't think I could endure another round of "forgive me Shawn!" Those two need to just focus on each other and avoid shiny ex-boyfriends...

[Frozendiva]

Chad, Stephanie’s mom’s memorial hasn’t even happened yet and you are already getting the kids to bake her a Valentine’s Day cookie. Not this year. Maybe two friends who have lost someone just hanging out and having a pizza or chicken or whatever. A little too fast.

Someone on a soap thinking the alcohol is too strong or tastes weird?

Gabi had two nice dresses - one in reality and one in fantasy. Both Sloan and Nicole looked good. I would have probably gone for the burger. At least Sloan was clear she only had an interest in the expensive steak.

Brady, be by yourself for a bit and work on yourself. Chloe will eventually return.

EJ and Nicole do make a nice pair, but they will screw it up.

 

 

[DaphneCat]

Here's my really petty thought for today.  Couldn't wardrobe at least be bothered to steam the hanger bumps out of Li's sweater?  I was so busy watching them move I wasn't even paying attention to what he was saying.

[DisneyBoy]

5 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

I don't see how Eric and Nicole would ever last if they reunited, given that Nicole would find yet another way to screw it all up, as she is wont to do.  And Eric just doesn't smile around her anymore.

I put that on the show. The actors smile when it's written in, LOL. The writing for Ericole has always been very intense. I still think they're capable of fun.

I don't think Nicole as a character HAS to screw up as much as she does. It's like Brooke on The Bold And The Beautiful. Do you really think anybody - ANYBODY - would fall into bed with literally every man in the family and not reach a point where she says "You know what, I have to stop this! It's gross and crazy! I'm sticking with my husband!" and keep to it?

When last I watched that show years ago, Brooke was seemingly getting into it with her son on a beach because they were both dehydrated and sick (was he played by current Shawn-D? Or was he playing Sally Spectra's cabana boy? I can't recall) and when she got back to town and thought she may have boinked a son, she freaked and swore to Ridge she wasn't that disgusting. That would have been, for me, the natural point to retire the "Brooke sleeping with male family members" story idea...but of course, to continue the show indefinitely, I'm sure Brooke never learned her lesson.

Nicole is in the same boat, only the writers keep throwing her at other guys for temporary "thrills", instead of developing her in a committed relationship. Ron doesn't seem into those, which is a shame. I'd love a simple storyline about Kayla and Steve as husband and wife. It seems like we're getting one now with Jack and Jennifer trying to save their newspaper/blog...but it's a little late and they're a lot annoying.

Soaps used to actually show what life is like at different stages. Instead, now we have retiree Marlena getting brain-chipped into sleeping with Stevano (yuck!) and retiree Kristen having a young baby by raping Brady (yuck!) and then for variety, Julie running and renaming a business when in her late 80s!

..did they destroy the set for Doug's Place/Julie's Place (and what is it called now?) Remember how she was supposed to run that place with Chloe? They really forgot about that plot.

 

 

[Soapy Goddess]

I'm reading how many feel it's too soon for Chad to romance Stephanie, so think of it this way....in dog years. The one to seven ratio will make it more palatable. 

I, for one, don't like storylines that drag on forever & ever. That's boring. I want to see action/drama, and progress. It's like a good fictional novel, keep it moving towards the end game. Because even the end game is never really the finale.

[peachmangosteen]

13 hours ago, Elio Kukui said:

One of the reasons that I like what's developing with Sloan is that she makes him actually, genuinely smile again.

This! Eric and Sloane are really good together. I'm torn though because I kinda wanna see them try Li/Sloane just because I like Li in general much more than I like Eric.

10 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Here's my really petty thought for today.  Couldn't wardrobe at least be bothered to steam the hanger bumps out of Li's sweater?  I was so busy watching them move I wasn't even paying attention to what he was saying.

I didn't even notice because I was too busy focusing on his one nipple showing through lol.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I'm reading how many feel it's too soon for Chad to romance Stephanie, so think of it this way....in dog years. The one to seven ratio will make it more palatable. 

I, for one, don't like storylines that drag on forever & ever. That's boring. I want to see action/drama, and progress. It's like a good fictional novel, keep it moving towards the end game. Because even the end game is never really the finale.

Seriously! I also don't really think it's a Ron thing to quickly put a widower in another relationship. It happens all the time on soaps.

[Panopticon]

I think Ron has had many problems with pacing in his writing, both on Days and OLTL. That said, I think he waited as long as he possibly could with Chad moving on.

Either in this thread or the other one we were recently comparing the timeline with the so-called glory Days stories, and Chad is actually at the far end compared to Bo moving on from "dead" Hope and Rojohn moving on from "dead" Marlena. Same deal with dragging the kids into it too-- little Shawn-D was complaining that he wanted to be a family with Carly from the moment he met her, and Carrie worked overtime propping Olivia-Diana-Yvette.

[peachmangosteen]

So they're telling me Gabi/Li isn't off the table?! I'm interested!

Another good episode.

[CanaryFan98]

22 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Pretty much this, for me. They were once married, they know each other's ins and outs, and - for me - Chloe makes Brady less of a flake.

(For me, with JKJ's last go-'round, all I saw from Chloe to Phillip was barely-concealed revulsion, so...if anything, maybe he can stalk Belle. Lord knows she and Shawn are not exactly a shining beacon of love eternal.)

I think as adults Phillip/Belle are better suited for each other. The actors have chem and he's shady enough to keep Belle's interest plus it would be something different for Belle beyond she cheats on Shawn every few years.