S04.E04: Winning or Learning

[Pallas]

John learns a valuable clue from an impenetrable source, and Jimmy bids farewell to Yellowstone Ranch.

[Crashcourse]

I'm glad that Walker and Lloyd got it out of their system because the feud had been brewing.  I hope they can bury the hatchet even though I never thought Laramie was worth feuding over in the first place.

I like "new," take charge Jamie even though it looks like his father will wind up disappointing him.  However, if that happens I think Jamie is strong enough now to deal with him--and with Beth.

Speaking of Beth, I think she's met her match with Silver Hair.  I'm looking forward to seeing how this matchup plays out.

I'm happy for Jimmy getting away from Yellowstone.  It was interesting that he didn't finish the letter to Mia and I hope he stays strong when it comes to her.  If she really loves him, I could see her moving to be near him and that would be ok as long as she's not badgering him about rodeoing and he's doing what he wants to do at the new place.   

No surprise that Monica and Tate went back to the grandfather's place and I hope we don't see much of them going forward.  

[AnnA]

I think Jamie's father was responsible for the attacks on the Duttons and I predict that Jamie will eventually be the one to shoot him.

I honestly don't care about Jimmy so his moving to Texas isn't a big deal.  I'm not sure he'll ever come back to the Yellowstone.  I don't understand why the barrel racers are still at the Yellowstone.  Rip should have thrown them out a long time ago. 

[Msample]

Yeah after breaking up the fight I was hoping Rip would tell the buckle bunnies to GTFO. As Lloyd said, they can’t cowboy anyways. They’re just freeloading.

The kid is still getting way too much screen time. 

 

Edited November 22, 2021 by Msample

[Artsda]

The girls still in the bunkhouse is ridiculous. Rip would have kicked them out for being the issue with Lloyd/Walker and Mia has no reason there with Jimmy gone. 

Bye Monica.

So Rip has never been stopped for a traffic stop and asked for drivers license? We see him driving all the time.

Edited November 22, 2021 by Artsda

[SuprSuprElevated]

Do we think the closing scene with Lloyd, where he somewhat wistfully looked around the bunkhouse, was meant to convey anything specific?  I half expected him to grab his duffle and clear out, sort of an I'm too old for this now moment.

 

[toodywoody]

Jimmy, Monica and Tate can stay gone forever and next Laramie and Mia can go. They serve no purpose at all. 

Jimmy and his sad face can go get his ass kicked in at 6666. And Monica just as well. Like come off of it, she's such a puss. But as soon as Kayce said he was taking her to her grandfather's her mood automatically picked right up. Was she a prisoner and could never leave? Does she not drive anymore? I get they are suffering from PTSD but she's such a puss. Like she should be a strong ass woman and should have been taking the kid to the Dr. Does she not realize that going to the reservation doesn't make that shit go away.

I can't wait for Jaime to deal with his dad and turn around and fuck over the people on the airport and ski lodge. Him and Beth, if they would work together instead of against each other could fuck some people up.

Lloyd get it together. So what if Laramie jumped on Walker, that's her decision. While I don't think they should be there at all, that was still her decision. Respect it and move on. Walker needs to cut the shit and quit goading Lloyd.

Rip needs to quit preaching to the kid and restore order in bunkhouse by getting rid of the barrel racers. 

This is going to be interesting between Polgergeist voice and Beth. 

[RedDelicious]

I keep calling silver hair Sally Struthers even though it is not in fact Sally Struthers ☺️

[Moose135]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Do we think the closing scene with Lloyd, where he somewhat wistfully looked around the bunkhouse, was meant to convey anything specific?  I half expected him to grab his duffle and clear out, sort of an I'm too old for this now moment.

I was thinking along those lines too. I wondered what sort of retirement plan they have at the Yellowstone. A ride to the train station maybe?

[mledawn]

I noticed and enjoyed the music in the episode for the first time in a while.

I did laugh at Jimmy getting dropped off - “Well, Jimmy. If this is the front, then the back would be the opposite of that. Make sense?” At least Travis was a little nicer. I really liked Taylor Sheridan as Deputy Hale in Sons of Anarchy but so far Travis had done nothing for me. This was fine. 

Speaking of people who appear slow on the uptake - poor Jaime is so trusting of Kayce and wanting to believe he still has a place in the Dutton family. I was hoping Kayce might have mentioned that to John but it really isn’t his way. 

I hope not-Sally is going to give Beth a real run for it and not be a walkover like everyone else so far.

Get rid of the barrel racers already. 
 

Edited November 22, 2021 by mledawn
iPad autocorrect Kayce

[RedDelicious]

7 minutes ago, mledawn said:

Get rid of the barrel racers already. 

Seriously! As soon as Mia whined to Laramie about it being rodeo season, I immediately thought that Mia's taking off for North Texas as soon as she theoretically gets her sh*t together.

Maybe that's why the barrel racers were there...it was the off season for rodeos? I don't know. All I know is they are annoying and superfluous and I never noticed how thin Teeter is. Several cast members noticeably lost weight on hiatus, Jen Landon, Kelly Reilly and Wes Bentley. KC looks a little thinner too. Bunch of folks on Succession lost weight as well. 

[Msample]

Was I the only one who saw the weekly rodeo porn sequences in an empty arena then did a double take when it turned out they won big prize money for that? I guess it was streamed but still nobody in person to see it?? 

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, Moose135 said:

I was thinking along those lines too. I wondered what sort of retirement plan they have at the Yellowstone. A ride to the train station maybe?

Final paycheck and the suggestion to not let the screened door hit you in the ass on your way out.

[SuprSuprElevated]

36 minutes ago, Msample said:

Was I the only one who saw the weekly rodeo porn sequences in an empty arena then did a double take when it turned out they won big prize money for that? I guess it was streamed but still nobody in person to see it?? 

Was that prize money?  I thought they sold the horses.

I should stay in the city; I can't hang, lol.

[RedDelicious]

1 hour ago, Msample said:

Was I the only one who saw the weekly rodeo porn sequences in an empty arena then did a double take when it turned out they won big prize money for that? I guess it was streamed but still nobody in person to see it?? 

 

30 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Was that prize money?  I thought they sold the horses.

I should stay in the city; I can't hang, lol.

I was not 100% paying attention but I think the checks were stud fees. If I understand it correctly, the Yellowstone now owns the horses and Travis is showing them for stud services.

[rhygirl720]

58 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

 

I was not 100% paying attention but I think the checks were stud fees. If I understand it correctly, the Yellowstone now owns the horses and Travis is showing them for stud services.

yes they won money and yes there will be stud services eventually

[Guy Incognito]

Yellowstone is really beating the hell out of some dead horse plot points and I really wish they would devote more time to the A storylines.

1) I thought Jimmy said goodbye last week, did we really need to start the episode with Jimmy in the car driving, then devote more time in the episode of him getting dropped off?  Seriously?  Writers, NOBODY care about Jimmy, stop force feeding him to us.  He's gone, see you at the end of the season or next year when your character has toughened up.

2) Get the girls out of the bunkhouse!  It doesn't even make sense that they are still there.  Mia is just a continuation of my Point #1, she is the B storyline to Jimmy's D storyline.  NOBODY cares about Jimmy!  

3) We get it, the guys on the horses can make them stop and slide.  They can make them spin around.  Cool the first time.  But now they show that crap EVERY WEEK.  It's not THAT cool!  Watching a horse slide about 800 times over 4 seasons is getting tiresome.  We've seen it, move on!

4) Tate in a bathtub.  Good Lord, we've seen that kid in a bathtub more than we've seen him on a horse.  And every time he is suffering from some traumatic experience.  Tate should be getting the storyline that the new kid is getting, learning the ranch and how it works so he can one day take it over.  Instead they have a kid growing up faster than his character getting bathed by his mom like he's 2.  Dude looks 15 now getting sponge baths from mom!  Get Tate out of the Tub!

Come on Yellowstone. More Rip, more Dutton feuding, more Beth badassery, more Rainwater strategizing.  Less of all of the above.

[Crashcourse]

Even though Rip didn't see who started the fight, I thought it was interesting that he walked into the bunkhouse and just assumed that it was Lloyd.  I, too, thought Lloyd was going to pack up his stuff and leave.

I know Rip is trying to show the kid "tough love" but I think he's being too hard on the kid.  He's trying to turn him into a younger version of himself and that's not good.   Rip is fucked up, and I fear for the kid if he doesn't find someplace else to go.  I won't even get into Beth's "parenting."

I won't watch the spinoff but I'm glad Jimmy's gone off, hopefully to a better place.

[Moose135]

5 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Even though Rip didn't see who started the fight, I thought it was interesting that he walked into the bunkhouse and just assumed that it was Lloyd.

Lloyd is the "senior" member of the crew, and really the leader of the bunkhouse. Even if he didn't start the fight, Rip feels it should have been on him to stop it before it got out of hand.

[roughing it]

1 hour ago, Moose135 said:

Lloyd is the "senior" member of the crew, and really the leader of the bunkhouse. Even if he didn't start the fight, Rip feels it should have been on him to stop it before it got out of hand.

Also, John and Rip were angry with Lloyd because of his decision to bring the infected herd back to the ranch instead of treating them where they were.  When even Walker and the others questioned Lloyd's decision.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, Guy Incognito said:

beating the hell out of some dead horse plot points

No pun intended?  

[Crashcourse]

34 minutes ago, roughing it said:

Also, John and Rip were angry with Lloyd because of his decision to bring the infected herd back to the ranch instead of treating them where they were.  When even Walker and the others questioned Lloyd's decision.

Yeah, I forgot about that.  I wonder if the guys "retire" if they're still allowed to live on Yellowstone, because Lloyd looks like he's done.

[NeenerNeener]

Nice to see that Jamie didn't know that his old man put out a hit on his other family. I was kind of afraid that he did know and just didn't do anything to stop it. He does still care about Kayce, at least, and let's hope he wouldn't stoop to murdering Monica and Tate, no matter how mad he is at John and how much he hates Beth.

[Blondie]

if you have a horse that traces back to King, or Dash for Cash you have something and probably paid a pretty penny for it.   Sometime look up Foundation Stallions and Mares.    Big money in it.  

When you are showing, it's all about spinning (and not only doing it in place but having one rear hoof/leg being in the same spot, and the sliding stop which is how far they actually slide without the hips back up.    These horses are true athletes.  It's also an expensive hobby. 

I want to see Beth kick ass and take names.  I do want to see her crush her enemies.  After all she has been through I want to see her get some kind of revenge. 

Regardless of what she says Monica is not a stand by your man girl.   If she truly loves her son she should get her the help he needs.  Fresh air and sunshine is not enough to heal his soul, or hers.  She is always concerned about her son's native american ancestry but forgets about his father's ancestry. 

The buckle bunnies need to go.  Shame on Walker for being such a jerk. 

If John has regrets about burying his wife's wedding ring he could probably find it wit a metal detector (or Lidar) 

 

[madmax]

19 hours ago, Artsda said:

So Rip has never been stopped for a traffic stop and asked for drivers license? We see him driving all the time.

If he was stopped, it was probably by a friendly cop that answers to the Duttons.

12 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Do we think the closing scene with Lloyd, where he somewhat wistfully looked around the bunkhouse, was meant to convey anything specific?  I half expected him to grab his duffle and clear out, sort of an I'm too old for this now moment.

I thought that as well.  He's lost face with the Duttons and Rip and he's lost face with the crew he's supposed to lead.  I wouldn't be surprised.

11 hours ago, toodywoody said:

This is going to be interesting between Polgergeist voice and Beth. 

EXCELLENT name.  That's all I hear when she talks.

6 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Even though Rip didn't see who started the fight, I thought it was interesting that he walked into the bunkhouse and just assumed that it was Lloyd.  I, too, thought Lloyd was going to pack up his stuff and leave.

 

6 hours ago, Moose135 said:

Lloyd is the "senior" member of the crew, and really the leader of the bunkhouse. Even if he didn't start the fight, Rip feels it should have been on him to stop it before it got out of hand.

I asked Mr. Max why he didn't punch the shit out of Walker, and he said Lloyd is senior and should have known better.  I still think Walker deserved a Lloyd punch.

Now we really see where Jamie's loyalties are.

[kn51]

I'll ask the most important question raised in this show. 

What happened to the Jimmy Brace?

Edited November 23, 2021 by kn51

[rhygirl720]

1 hour ago, Blondie said:

if you have a horse that traces back to King, or Dash for Cash you have something and probably paid a pretty penny for it.   Sometime look up Foundation Stallions and Mares.    Big money in it.  

I do

[SG429]

1 hour ago, kn51 said:

I'll ask the most important question raised in this show. 

What happened to the Jimmy Brace?

The Goodbye Jimmy scene was so long his back healed.

[kn51]

6 hours ago, SG429 said:

The Goodbye Jimmy scene was so long his back healed.

Hopefully Yellowstone's mystic powers of healing can mend his broken heart as well.  Watching Jimmy rub a couple of the few remaining neurons left in his skull together to pen a letter was powerful stuff.  And speaking of that scene, I was half expecting Travis to rip Jimmy for mailing the checks and have it turn into some check skimming operation.

Did get a good laugh when Kayce said let's go to your grandpa's.  Before he could get the words out she threw a couple loaded suitcases on the bed and away they went faster than Teeter could fire up a crock pot.

[Tatum]

This is the first season I have watched in real time (seasons 1-3 were already done when we started watching) and I don't know that I am going to finish. Way too many subplots that really serve no purpose.

The kid subplot is dumb. He's irritating, no doubt, but Beth and Rip are really overreacting here. Like if they raised their own kid, he would never be bratty or try to test the limits? They're really going back and forth between treating him like an indentured servant and a friend, no wonder he is confused. And I find their constant, you're nothing, you suck, you don't deserve anything, and you're never going to be any more than this, is like, really emotionally cruel. They can impress upon him that life isn't fair and that he isn't going to have the same breaks in life as other people without making him feel worthless and like he has to beg for scraps.

 

Also agree that Jimmy is not really that interesting. I actually like the Taylor Sheridan cameos though.

 

I would be intrigued by a Beth/Silver Hair matchup if I didn't believe the confrontations will always be rigged in Beth's favor. Silver Hair may win a few battles but Beth is always going to win the war. Yawn.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds Monica obnoxious. She has been sullen and sanctimonious on pretty much episode she's appeared in. Tate is just irritating, but that might be on the actor.

 

I'm normally pretty meh on Kayce, but I did think his scene with Jamie was very poignant and a series highlight for him. His hurt was very evident without being too over the top. The scene to me was very reminiscent of the scene where Jax Teller confronts Juice in prison over Gemma's involvement with Tara's death. Very quiet, very nuanced.

Edited November 23, 2021 by Tatum

[Rebky]

I have been beating my head against a wall trying to remember where I have seen Taylor Sheridan before.  Thanks to IMDb, I realized it was Sons of Anarchy. That is a great resource for researching such things. 

[blackwing]

Does the actor who plays Jimmy have naked pictures of Taylor Sheridan or something?  Why so much focus on Jimmy?  I get it, they are setting him up to introduce the "6666" show.  Hopefully he stays there.  Do the producers really think that Jimmy has such a following that viewers will want to watch "6666" because of Jimmy?  I would have thought that people (that is, people who subscribe to Paramount Plus) will watch "6666" because of the Yellowstone brand, not because of Jimmy.  Jimmy certainly isn't going to make me want to run out and subscribe.  Now, on the other hand, if Beth had gone to "6666" for a few episodes, I would be tempted to subscribe and watch.

Episode opens with Sad Sack Jimmy.  Then many scenes of Sad Sack Jimmy sleeping in the truck and being otherwise useless.  Then the episode bookends with Sad Sack Jimmy.  I truly hope this is it for Jimmy and that he is off this main show for good.  But somehow I think he's going to return midway through this season or for next season.  Ugh.

I truly hate Silver Hair's voice.  I think she is supposed to be menacing but her voice makes her sound a bit ridiculous.  Like a school librarian trying to scold a student for an overdue library book.  Not sure what's up with her assistant or whoever that guy is, but I hope Beth eats him for lunch.  He clearly can't take it and she enjoys intimidating people like this.  I like her brand on this show.

 

On 11/21/2021 at 9:25 PM, AnnA said:

I honestly don't care about Jimmy so his moving to Texas isn't a big deal.  I'm not sure he'll ever come back to the Yellowstone.  I don't understand why the barrel racers are still at the Yellowstone.  Rip should have thrown them out a long time ago. 

22 hours ago, Guy Incognito said:

1) I thought Jimmy said goodbye last week, did we really need to start the episode with Jimmy in the car driving, then devote more time in the episode of him getting dropped off?  Seriously?  Writers, NOBODY care about Jimmy, stop force feeding him to us.  He's gone, see you at the end of the season or next year when your character has toughened up.

2) Get the girls out of the bunkhouse!  It doesn't even make sense that they are still there.  Mia is just a continuation of my Point #1, she is the B storyline to Jimmy's D storyline.  NOBODY cares about Jimmy!  

3) We get it, the guys on the horses can make them stop and slide.  They can make them spin around.  Cool the first time.  But now they show that crap EVERY WEEK.  It's not THAT cool!  Watching a horse slide about 800 times over 4 seasons is getting tiresome.  We've seen it, move on!

4) Tate in a bathtub.  Good Lord, we've seen that kid in a bathtub more than we've seen him on a horse.  And every time he is suffering from some traumatic experience.  Tate should be getting the storyline that the new kid is getting, learning the ranch and how it works so he can one day take it over.  Instead they have a kid growing up faster than his character getting bathed by his mom like he's 2.  Dude looks 15 now getting sponge baths from mom!  Get Tate out of the Tub!

Come on Yellowstone. More Rip, more Dutton feuding, more Beth badassery, more Rainwater strategizing.  Less of all of the above.

Agree completely with all of this.  Especially "Nobody cares about Jimmy".  My kids are tired of hearing me say this about 15 times during each episode!

It's ridiculous that the girls are still in the bunkhouse.  If I were Rip, I would have tossed them all out except for Teeter who is actually a ranch hand.  The rest of them are just useless, taking up space, eating their food, causing problems.

I wonder if Lloyd is done too.  He's too old to be living in the bunkhouse like he's in his 30s still.

And I agree about the multiple scenes again with the horses spinning in circles and stopping on a dime.  It has lost its appeal.

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by blackwing

[tennisgurl]

I never really thought that Jamie ordered the hit on his family but I was glad to have it confirmed. Looks like his bio dad might be behind it though, which will probably end up leading to Jamie turning on him and being the one to take him out. I think that's one of the longest scenes Jamie and Kayce have ever shared, and it was probably the best scene of the season so far. There was so much going on there, Kayce trying to feel Jamie out while Jaimie is trying to play it cool while also jumping at the chance to actually be useful to John again, despite still being seriously pissed at him. I also thought him telling Kayce how he cleaned up after his revenge spree was a bit darkly funny. "He was hung in self defense? Really Kayce?" 

Monica is still giving Tate baths? Tate looks like he's practically in middle school, please get this kid out of the house right now, preferably into a place where he can meet some other kids and also has a therapist on stand by. I am not going to miss Monica is we don't see her for awhile, although I don't think we're that lucky.

Rip should have tossed the girls out of the ranch right right after he broke the fight up, there is absolutely no reason for them to still be there. Even Mia has no idea why they're still free loading around the bunkhouse instead of being on the rodeo circuit. They serve no purpose on the ranch or on the show. If Rip wasn't too busy with his questionable parenting of this kid, he would have normally done it ages ago.

Bye Jimmy, I thought we said goodbye to you last week but apparently we were in need of an even longer goodbye. I am glad he left Yellowstone, he should just stay in Texas for as long as he can.

Hopefully white haired lady is finally a worthy opponent for Beth and she wont just fall apart at the end so that Beth can do her bad bitch power walk, I want to see her sweat a bit. Its too bad that she and Jamie hate each other so much, if they actually teamed up they would have probably saved the ranch months ago.  

Edited November 23, 2021 by tennisgurl

[Tatum]

19 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

Monica is still giving Tate baths? Tate looks like he's practically in middle school, please get this kid out of the house right now, preferably into a place where he can meet some other kids and also has a therapist on stand by. I am not going to miss Monica is we don't see her for awhile, although I don't think we're that lucky.

Yeah, at this point I feel like Monica is intentionally enabling Tate just so she can glare at Kayce longer and let him know this is all his fault.

 

Yeah, it sucks your kid has been badly traumatized twice just due to his shared DNA with Duttons, but um, you knew who you were dating, Monica. Once you chose to procreate with a Dutton you signed on for this. Not living at Yellowstone wouldn't have kept Tate any safer either time. It actually would have been a lot easier to hurt/kidnap/shoot him, along with a lot of other innocent people in the wrong place at the wrong time, had you still been living on the reservation.

[Blondie]

15 hours ago, rhygirl720 said:

I do

I used to have a Leo bred gelding.  Loved that boy.  Really put together and a lot of cow in him.

Annnnnd,   Monica helping to bathe Tate was just creepy.  I know she was just rinsing his hair, but still.  If my child refused to take a bath or shower I would have taken him outside an dumped him in the water trough. 

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by Blondie
edited to add my thoughts on Monica

[madmax]

7 hours ago, kn51 said:

 I was half expecting Travis to rip Jimmy for mailing the checks and have it turn into some check skimming operation.

I had an uh-oh moment, thinking that the checks would go to Jamie instead of the ranch, because the address wasn't confirmed.

[Crashcourse]

5 hours ago, Tatum said:

The kid subplot is dumb. He's irritating, no doubt, but Beth and Rip are really overreacting here. Like if they raised their own kid, he would never be bratty or try to test the limits? They're really going back and forth between treating him like an indentured servant and a friend, no wonder he is confused. And I find their constant, you're nothing, you suck, you don't deserve anything, and you're never going to be any more than this, is like, really emotionally cruel. They can impress upon him that life isn't fair and that he isn't going to have the same breaks in life as other people without making him feel worthless and like he has to beg for scraps.

I agree to everything here.  I really feel sorry for the kid because Beth and Rip really are overreacting.  It was especially cruel of Rip having the kid wait in fear all day for whatever Rip was going to say or do to him.  And then Beth making him sleep in the barn like a whipped dog when she's not pleased, is just too much.  Actually, people wouldn't treat a dog like that.

I like Silver Hair and her raspy voice because Beth thinks she's some ol' lady that she can manipulate.  Not true, Beth. 

Also, I wonder if Willa is still working at the company (forgot the name) or did Silver Hair demote her?  I'd like to see her again so she and Beth butt heads and Willa gets her revenge.

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, madmax said:

because the address wasn't confirmed.

Yeah, that was an uncomfortable moment for me as well.  I'm a detail geek, especially when it comes to checks!  Could be more coming on that.

[Tatum]

40 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

And then Beth making him sleep in the barn like a whipped dog when she's not pleased, is just too much.  Actually, people wouldn't treat a dog like that.

That is so disgusting. Nothing wrong with instilling a good work ethic in the kid and I don't mind them expecting him to earn his keep, but they seemed determined to put him in his place and it's kind of degrading. At this point, they're getting more out of this arrangement than he is, since his big reward is not getting abused while they're getting a workhorse for free.

 

And Beth is taking the incident so damn personally. He didn't plan a long con to steal her money or jerk off in her underwear drawer, he demanded something from someone who in his eyes, had an endless bank account and no reason to say no (Beth certainly did her share of shopping on Daddy's dime when she was his age). Yes, he was rude and entitled, and sure, she can be annoyed with him but her blubbering about how he cost her her last bit of hope for humanity was like, so melodramatic.

[Crashcourse]

2 minutes ago, Tatum said:

And Beth is taking the incident so damn personally. He didn't plan a long con to steal her money or jerk off in her underwear drawer, he demanded something from someone who in his eyes, had an endless bank account and no reason to say no (Beth certainly did her share of shopping on Daddy's dime when she was his age). Yes, he was rude and entitled, and sure, she can be annoyed with him but her blubbering about how he cost her her last bit of hope for humanity was like, so melodramatic.

Yes, and he apologized to her for his behavior in the store. 

Please, please writers, don't turn him into a young Rip.

[kn51]

If Beth needs a bottle of tequila after the kid throws a tantrum, she'll need a distillery when he gets a squeeze and starts driving.

Edited November 23, 2021 by kn51

[blackwing]

On 11/22/2021 at 1:05 PM, Moose135 said:

Lloyd is the "senior" member of the crew, and really the leader of the bunkhouse. Even if he didn't start the fight, Rip feels it should have been on him to stop it before it got out of hand.

 

On 11/22/2021 at 2:39 PM, roughing it said:

Also, John and Rip were angry with Lloyd because of his decision to bring the infected herd back to the ranch instead of treating them where they were.  When even Walker and the others questioned Lloyd's decision.

Rip and John should send Lloyd packing.  The atmosphere of the bunkhouse has been completely ruined all because Lloyd feels that Walker stole "his" girl.  I guess Lloyd really did think he could compete with a guy who is half his age.  So embarrassing.  And when he lost, he's pouting about it like he's 15 instead of 65.  He's been completely distracted, leading to his poor decision about the sick herd. Time for him to retire.

[Crashcourse]

I can understand Lloyd being pissed because Walker and the bunny were throwing their "relationship" in his face, which was an uncool thing for Walker to do.  I don't even see age being a factor in this instance.  At least Walker had the decency to move himself and that bunny into the trailer.   

I agree, though, that it's time for Lloyd to leave Yellowstone.  I think he's a silver fox and he could find a more mature woman besides the buckle bunny.  Also, assuming he has papers (unlike Rip) he could find a less demanding job somewhere else.   

[Tatum]

1 minute ago, Crashcourse said:

I can understand Lloyd being pissed because Walker and the bunny were throwing their "relationship" in his face, which was an uncool thing for Walker to do.  I don't even see age being a factor in this instance.  At least Walker had the decency to move himself and that bunny into the trailer.   

I agree, though, that it's time for Lloyd to leave Yellowstone.  I think he's a silver fox and he could find a more mature woman besides the buckle bunny.  Also, assuming he has papers (unlike Rip) he could find a less demanding job somewhere else.   

I did think that was unkind of Walker, who does not appear to be a very malicious person in general, but then I remembered that when Rip was trying to terrorize Walker, Lloyd was kind of helping him, right?

 

I like Walker and think he's too good for Beth, and Yellowstone Ranch. I remember when Rip was telling Beth that there is a lot of good in her, and none in Walker, and even coming from an obviously biased Rip, that was a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

 

I am sure Lloyd is so deeply invested in Yellowstone that he'd rather be dead than retire. But his sulking has really gotten out of hand, so I think it's time for him to go. He looked pretty brokenhearted in the final scene he was in.

 

Also, I can't imagine anything less uncomfortable than boning your boyfriend on his bunk bed surrounding by leering coworkers. Gross. Even if they could manage to tent themselves on the bunk, you could hear everything.

[Crashcourse]

21 minutes ago, Tatum said:

I did think that was unkind of Walker, who does not appear to be a very malicious person in general, but then I remembered that when Rip was trying to terrorize Walker, Lloyd was kind of helping him, right?

Yes, my memory is so bad sometimes.  Also, Lloyd's certainly no saint because I'm guessing he helped Rip take a lot of people to the train station.   So while I can understand Walker wanting to get back at Lloyd by throwing the buckle bunny relationship in his face, it was still a dangerous thing to do because, like he said, he was afraid Lloyd would stab him in his sleep.  

I like Walker, too, and I wish he'd leave Yellowstone.  I know he can't leave Montana because he's still on parole but surely there's someplace else in the state where he could go until his parole is up.  Then maybe go to Texas and work with Jimmy at 6666.  

Edited November 23, 2021 by Crashcourse

[Tatum]

I am curious about something else, and I did not see the answer on either of the previous show threads this season.

 

Why is Beth so angry at her former boss? As I remember, Market Equities bought a controlling interest in her former employer, with the specific goal of displacing her. There is nothing her boss could have done to save her, and in fact, I am sure I remember a scene where her boss warned  her that ME would surely retaliate and she would be first in their line of sight. Beth said bring it on.

[Joimiaroxeu]

The episode description uses the term "an impenetrable source." Was that a mistake? I thought the expression was "impeccable source."

Meh, I just don't get the spinning and stopping short thing with the horses. Is that a sign of a horse's superior breeding and training, or is it evidence of the rider's skill in controlling the horse?

Funny how Dutton has only brief interactions with Carter and he's already had more of a positive influence on the kid than both Beth and Rip. Maybe Carter just needs someone to believe in him without being judgmental and expecting him to fail. And he needs to be around other kids so he gets good socialization skills and doesn't end up another branded outcast at the Yellowstone.

Dutton is boxing Jamie in with a loyalty test and poor Fredo has no clue. We'll see how big Jamie is on doing things according to the law when he realizes his bio-dad maybe tried to take out the entire Dutton family.

Jimmy got a Willie Nelson song for his sign-off. Good job. 🤠

Bet the viewers in CO are still rolling their eyes about the suggestion of creating Montana versions of Aspen and Breckenridge and etc. "Yeah, MT, good luck with that. We've got the ski industry and mountain resorts on lock. It's us and Switzerland, bitches. Punk ass wannabes."😏

[SuprSuprElevated]

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Is that a sign of a horse's superior breeding and training, or is it evidence of the rider's skill in controlling the horse?

I'm guessing both.  Another poster with knowledge of it said the horses were incredible athletes.  I have to believe that the rider also requires a lot of training.  🤷‍♀️

[Lonesome Rhodes]

John, Kayce, and Rip all wear black hats.  Rightly.

The interminable Jimmy farewell was simply a device to cross-promote the 6666 series.   All the foreboding verbiage make that joint out to be hockey mask, Jason, central.  Yee haw.

Silverhair could destroy Beth anytime she pleases.  But, with billions on the line, Beth is useful.  One thing that makes perfect sense is that if ME goes after other valleys/locales, they don't have to deal with the Confederation and Rainwater.  Of course, EPA and FAA and all the other Feds will still demand their share before approvals happen.  

Beth hates Bob for trying to take over Yellowstone's assets while seeming to be an angel investor.  He is a dead man.

Jaime's bravado in his office with the various interests was nice and all.  One problem:  The Governor turned against Dutton.  Right, Sheridan?  Oopsie.  

The bunnies would have been made to hop away long ago.  After causing this ruckus?  They'll be lucky to still have their tails.

Rip is dead on right about breaking Carter.  Unless he reaches a true bottom, the kid's will would eventually re-emerge and sabotage the heck out of himself.  

Monica with the geographic solution.  Ugh.  She is the polar opposite of Rip.  Whatever happened to her emergence as a tribal advocate within academia????  Yeah, just another allegedly core and sacred piece of her that never was.  I'll give her this:  She is a master at blaming.  PhD-level.

Last thing...Jimmy being assigned the task of signing for the awards?!!!!!  LMAO.  Riiiiiight.  Then again, Sheridan did start calling him by his actual name.  That means he can be trusted.  Doesn't it?  Hahahahaha.

 

Edited November 25, 2021 by Lonesome Rhodes

[rhygirl720]

On 11/24/2021 at 7:10 PM, SuprSuprElevated said:

I'm guessing both.  Another poster with knowledge of it said the horses were incredible athletes.  I have to believe that the rider also requires a lot of training.  🤷‍♀️

both!