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Wow, a Daria forum. Yay! I loved this show. Daria was so deadpan and so cynical, and I loved that the show, even as a cartoon, was smart and really showed some truths about high school politics and just the usual growing up stuff.

 

Even harder still to believe is this spun off from Beavis and Butthead which, while admittedly funny sometimes, was as stupid as they come!

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I used to get compared with Daria in school. I think people weren't able to differentiate between not having emotions/feelings and not caring.

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Jake is one of my favourites.. oh poor Jake.

 

I think one of my favourite moments was him and Trent singing Manly. And well, all the playing with mashed potatoes was good too.

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Let's get this going...

 

Mr. DeMartino: While we continue our discussion of CULTS, can anyone give me another example of a group using cohesive techniques such as peer pressure, chanting, and SOCIAL ISOLATION to achieve control over its members? Brittany?
Brittany: Cheerleading?
Mr. DeMartino: Ah Brittany, sometimes despite a complete lack of INSIGHT, you stumble upon an interesting answer

 

Daria (to Quinn): Sometimes your shallowness is so thorough, it's almost like depth.

 

Jake: You're nothing but a... A DAMN RADIO WITH DOORS!
Daria: No, Dad and his inner child are playing in the driveway.
Quinn: But he's supposed to pick us up at the mall.
Daria: He's discussing that with the car right now. But the car seems to be saying you're taking the bus.

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The one in the title gets me because we have a glimpse of a knife floating up from a kitchen table, hovering in mid-air, and then chasing a woman out of the room. Fantastic.

 

"A vision of Christ in a half-eaten candy bar? Talk about my sweet lord! The Immaculate Confection, next on Sick, Sad World."

 

"When these ballerinas work out at the bar, they work out at the bar. Tanked in a Tutu, when Sick, Sad World returns."

 

"Meet the fly-fishing pathologist who uses human organs as bait. A Liver Runs Through it, next on Sick, Sad World."

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Mr DeMartino would always crack me up when he was yelling at Kevin:

 

Mr. DeMartino: Kevin, do you know what war was fought over manifest destiny?
Kevin: Umm... the Vietnam War?
Mr. DeMartino: That came a little later, Kevin. About a hundred YEARS later. A lot of people died in that war, Kevin. I think we OWE IT TO THEM to at LEAST get the CENTURY right.

 

 

I have to pare down my favorite Daria quotes, but I'll leave my favorite Helen rant to Ms. Li:

 

All right Ms. Li, let me make sure I have this straight. You took my daughter's poster from her, altered its content, exhibited it against her will and are now threatening discipline because you claim she defaced her own property which you admit to stealing?

 

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Poor Jake. He tried like hell but always seemed to come up just a bit short. Although I love his rants and cluelessness, I oddly loved him in the last episode of the series, of which the title will not come to me. But it was when Daria had some subconscious memories return all because of a refrigerator box, and the fighting her parents did about her when she was small.

 

At the end, Jake, Helen, and Daria finally talked and Jake had this short speech about being Daria's dad and things being "part of the deal" (I recall that line, anyway - have to dig out the DVDs and watch again some time! Or there's Hulu!) and he was surprisingly low-key and insightful. Of course, Helen had to step on his foot before he got off into a tangent, but for the most part, it was a great speech from Jake!  :-)

 

Showing even Jake Morgendorffer had moments of reflection and insight, however fleeting. LOL! But you know he loved his family and it made him endearing - most of the time, anyway!

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Do people think these girls (or any combination of the four) stayed long-term friends? Beyond college? I don't mean that the entirety of all their friendships were meaningless, but I feel like they had all grown beyond each other -- especially Quinn and Stacy -- and were also tired of each other and of who they felt they had to be around each other. Probably would have fun following each other on Facebook and seeing each other at the reunions, but I have a hard time seeing more than that... Thoughts?

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Well, I don't think Quinn and Sandi were ever really friends, anyway, so no loss if they drifted away from each other. Ditto Tiffany. I can't get a handle on Quinn and Stacey, though. It's actually kind of ironic and sad. These were the "popular" girls, yet they had no real friends...

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I like to think that maybe Quinn and Stacey became less shallow people and started a real friendship after school. It always seemed like Stacey didn't belong in the Fashion Club anyway and was there because she was pretty and Sandi could control her.

 

Sandi I think probably would lose contact with them all and maybe, one day, realise she isn't a very nice person. @mattie0808 I think it's funny you mention the facebook and reunion stuff.. I feel like they would definitely be friends on facebook but mostly just to try and outdo each other at life.

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One of my favorite Jake episodes was when he got the job at the Start-up company. Him drinking the Kamboucha (which he didn't like) tea was funny, missing out on the stock options and subsequently not fitting in with the cool hip youngin's made for a great episode.

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Sandy: Why don't we ask an average person. Look there's that girl you know, let's ask her. Hello...Quinn's cousin or something.

 

Mrs. Manson: Now, Dora, let's see if you can make up a story as vivid as your sister's.
Daria: It's Daria.
Mrs. Manson: I'm sorry... Daria. What do you see in the picture, Dara?
Daria: Um... a herd of beautiful wild ponies running free across the plains.
Mrs. Manson: Uh, there aren't any ponies. It's two people.
Daria: Last time I took one of these tests they told me they were clouds. They said they could be whatever I wanted.
Mrs. Manson: That's a different test, dear. In this test, they're people and you tell me what they're discussing.
Daria: Oh... I see. All right, then. It's a guy and a girl and they're discussing... a herd of beautiful wild ponies running free across the plains.

 

Woman #1: What a pretty voice she has. Do you think?
Woman #2: Oh, yes. She sounds just like Frances did when she was younger.
Woman #3: I always did have a lovely voice.
Brittany: Thanks!
Woman #2: And I looked just like you, dear.
Brittany: Eep!

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Oh, I forgot one of my all-time favorites...

 

Quinn: So you see, when you contribute to my surgery, it's like we're all sharing my surgery. We're making a statement about solidarity.
Andrea: Solidarity?
Quinn: You know, sisterhood is powerful.
Andrea: Aren't you even a *little* worried that there might be a Hell?

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Love Daria, but Jake is one of my least favorite characters.  People claim he tries hard, but I don't see it.  If anything, he seems to go out of his way to avoid getting involved in his daughters' lives.  Then when he doesn't try, people claim it's because he's been so beaten down by his father/Ellenbogen/Helen/whoever.  No matter what he does, to a large portion of fans, he never looks bad and it's never his fault.  Personally, I find him to be whiny and passive aggressive and possibly worst of all, not funny. 

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Not a monster by any means, but it's weird that her character seemed to take a step backward in Season Four, before rebounding in "Is It Fall Yet?".  Like they needed to make her extra shallow so that her brain breakthrough was more meaningful.

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Waxing Episodic: 'Daria' grows up in 'Boxing Daria'

MTV's best show of the late '90s soared in its last regular episode.
By Louis Virtel | Friday, Apr 24, 2015 2:35 PM

 

It's been a long time since I've watched the last seasons of the show and I'm always sad to see it end, but this kind of makes me look forward to the next time I watch.

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I loved "Boxing Daria." That was exactly how I felt when I was graduating high school, too. After wanting so long to get out of that high school crowd and culture, the feeling of, "wait wait wait, maybe I'm not ready!"

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Even though I own the DVD box set, I've been DVRing the show and marathon watching every weekend.

 

I got a sense of dread when Tom finally showed up. What a terrible, terrible drag on the show he was, I'd almost forgotten how much I hated him. 

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<smallest voice ever> I sort of liked Tom. < /smallest voice ever >

 

I mean, I liked the Jane/Daria friendship, but Tom shook it up and tested it. Since it prevailed (and seemed realistic for teen girls, even outcast teen girls like Jane and Daria!), I didn't mind Tom and don't think he was inherently malicious.

 

I will admit he could be preachy.

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Remember Daria? MTV Wants to Bring Her Back

 

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The network on Thursday announced it is bringing back "Daria" in the form of a new series, tentatively titled "Daria & Jodie."

The new show, written by "Inside Amy Schumer" scribe Grace Edwards, will focus on Daria Morgendorffer and her friend Jodie Landon.

"These two smart young women take on the world, with their signature satirical voice while deconstructing popular culture, social classes, gender and race," according to a description provided by MTV.

The show's revival is part of a larger strategy to develop new series and find ways to bring back iconic properties from the network's 35-year history, work that will be done via MTV Studios, a new unit announced Thursday.

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This may make me a bad fan, but nooooooooo. The original series was close to perfect, IMO. Reboots always seem to end up tainting the original show. Sigh.

Why not just re-run the '97 series?

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I think it could work if done right.  Having a writer for The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt at the helm is a step in the right direction.  Plus it's nice to have a woman as the lead writer for a show about women.  Here is some more about it:

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When you say you're developing new and reimagined iconic series for franchises for SVOD and linear partners, what does that mean? Are you talking about MTV and Viacom launching an SVOD platform for originals, or are you talking about selling this to a third party, like Amazon, Apple, Hulu or Netflix?

The latter. We want to create great stories and let this IP live on. We have one of the largest youth libraries. In the first 30 years [of MTV] nobody was making cable content, so we had to make it ourselves. We're in the luxurious position of having owned most of our IP.  So much of our history has been about looking forward and not looking back. But the world has changed and so much growth is happening for everybody, from Marvel and ABC to NBC, through reimaginations of amazing IP. We stopped and thought that we were leaving something behind that is way more valuable than we realized. Once we started talking to people, they got really excited about how important these characters and franchises were to them. Daria was a good example. We brought on Grace Edwards as the writer and she is a huge fan of Daria. The story she wants to tell of Dariais different, it's about Daria and Jodie and two close friends taking on the world today and what's happening in our culture at large. It's less about the monetization and more about telling great stories. Of course, we're going to make money but it's about taking this IP and bring it into the future and doing these shows on platforms where audiences make the most sense. 

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I have nothing against Jodie, but she and Daria were never close friends, as someone said above. Where is Jane in all of this?

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12 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

I have nothing against Jodie, but she and Daria were never close friends, as someone said above. Where is Jane in all of this?

There's a lot we don't know yet.  It might just be called "Daria" by the end, but feature Jodie more.  I doubt they would dump Jane, unless this takes place when they're adults and Jane is living somewhere else.

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On 6/22/2018 at 11:37 AM, nosleepforme said:

I find it odd that they want to center this new series on Daria and Jodie, because let's get real here, Jodie was also a fairly flat character, with not a lot of dimension to her. I think there was one episode in the original series where she mentions the pressure of being the model minority and I feel like that's most of what her character was about and the voice actress was not particularly strong. Hell, Daria and Jodie were not even friends in the original series, more like acquaintances.

 

Still, I loved Daria, and I don't think it has to be a bad thing to reboot the show for a 2018 climate. If they do it right, it could work. 

I loved Jodie. She was fleshed out in a few subsequent episodes, if I recall correctly.
I want to see a promo, trailer or something more before I jump on the wagon however.

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On 6/24/2018 at 2:56 PM, Brn2bwild said:

There's a lot we don't know yet.  It might just be called "Daria" by the end, but feature Jodie more.  I doubt they would dump Jane, unless this takes place when they're adults and Jane is living somewhere else.

From what I've read the show is being called a "reinvention" of the original series, which I take to mean it will be set in high school and meant to appeal to the younger audience MTV always aims for. I don't know how I feel about that; I would prefer them to follow Daria and Jane as thirty-somethings, dealing with the culture and climate now with their same, but more mature, outlook. 

I don't at all mind for Jodie to be more fleshed out and front and center, though. She always intrigued me for all the relatively little we saw of her over the original series. I do want Jane in there as a part of the friend group, though, or it just won't quite be the Daria I know and love.

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And I'm assuming that they are aiming for the audience that watched the original, so I'm thinking that it will most likely be Daria as a thirty-something.

I kinda like the idea of a revival, but the show was a product of it's time, so it may not work as well today. In particular, I think that snarky, sarcastic, outsider characters are more prevalent nowadays, so it wouldn't be the same.

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Daria and Jodie weren't close friends.. but I think they were equals intellectually and had a mutual respect for one another.  The Gifted episode especially showed how Jodie wish she was a little more like Daria and Daria admitted she wished she was a little more like Jodie.  

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