S03.E02: Testing Trust

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

On 9/3/2021 at 8:04 PM, MrBuhBye said:

Yeah giving up a door to door pest control job is giving up a lot.

Door-to-door is one of the WORST jobs there is. Flipping burgers would literally be a step up.

Jenny as a Hare Krishna??? HKs are supposed to radiate peace, love and/or good life choices. None of these apply to Jenny.

$50,000 for a wedding? Run, dude. Just run away as fast as you can.

Pizza Lady is just bound and determined to burn her life down.

As for Kenny and Armando:

Spoiler

They're still very much together, as verified by the awesome Cameo birthday greeting they did for my wife's 52nd birthday a few days ago. They also said they will not be doing Pillow Talks this season (I mentioned in the Cameo description field that they're my wife's favorite couple in both the regular episodes and the PTs), as couples aren't allowed to do PTs for any season they're featured, but are hopeful of doing Pillow Talks in the future.

 

[Persnickety1]

14 hours ago, Dakisela said:

I thought they were only engaged?

Oooh, I stand corrected.  I thought they had had a ceremony in Ethiopia.

In either case, though, I hold by the same standard, even if it is a committed relationship rather than being married.

If Bini were comfortable with the situation, that would be a different scenario, but clearly he's not.  

"We didn't break up.  I just didn't show up."  

Seriously????

So are we to surmise neither of them filed for a divorce and are still married?  

Ari is clearly the biggest flake in an entire bagful of shredded coconut.  

[Rebky]

Upspeak (while irritating AF), must be universal. Listening to Bibi speak it is as annoying as listening to it here in the US. Not every sentence? Is? A question???

[Persnickety1]

13 hours ago, MyVelouria said:

This guy is just so spectacularly unimpressive, he makes Corey seem like a real catch in comparison. 😏

He and Brandon are both in pest control.

I know there's a snarky comparison there, yet I can't yet quite put my finger on it.  

On 9/4/2021 at 3:12 PM, SlutAssBitchAssHor said:

Ari CLEARLY still wants her ex. She's all 'I made a mistake divorcing him being immature but always planned on having him in my life and thought we would get back together up until I met Bini'. She admitted the trip to the nail  salon was for the ex because she wanted to be 'at least put together' for his arrival. She also said she was glad Bini was jealous and I  believe he knows enough about her usual behavior to know that she was putting on for her ex husband.

I'm not sure they're actually divorced.  

I've heard "broke up," but never the actual word "divorced."  

I'm curious to see how this one plays out.  

It almost feels as if Ari the gigantic flake who just doesn't "show up" in her marriage is looking for a reason to bounce from Bini and head back to the States.  

[Breedom]

2 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

"We didn't break up.  I just didn't show up."  

In other words, "yes, it was me who held all the cards and I was the one to reject him". Little Miss Perfect.

[Persnickety1]

2 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Ari is total garbage. The only job $$$ she has is this show. I think she is having her ex over for the drama and Bini is NOT in on it. She is a sick girl who manipulates everyone in her life because she has 0 self worth (the cutting in her past). There isn’t enough attention in the universe that will make her happy she is a vampire for more attention .  Her parents 100% fund the nanny for Ari as much as Avi. 

She's a piece of work, that's for sure.  

"Find myself" = Running away from all responsibilities and personal accountability, yet expecting her husband to wait it out whilst she ran off banging other people without protection and getting knocked up.  

She was using Leo as a safety net whilst she ran off indulging her every whim.  

She's positively loathsome.  

[Auntie Anxiety]

8 hours ago, renatae said:

She is so thoughtless and apparently really broke Leandro's heart. I can't believe he forgave her childish capriciousness.

Areola is a manipulative bitch and I can just hear her tell Leandro that if he doesn’t stay friends with her, she’s going to do something drastic to herself and imperil her own welfare. She uses her fragility as a weapon.

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, Persnickety1 said:

So are we to surmise neither of them filed for a divorce and are still married?  

now THAT would be an original plot line...NOT! Wait for it! 

That's altogether possible because I noticed she always says she married him at 19 and they were married for 10 years. She's 29 now, so she must have gone to see the world and ended up getting pregnant in Ethiopia about the same time he went to IU for grad school and never bothered to file for divorce (thinking they'd get back together eventually.) The only thing she didn't foresee was getting knocked up by a vacation fuckboy and how a baby would derail her plans. 

I disliked her last season the moment she dismissively told the prenatal yoga group, "Well, MY birth story is REALLY interesting..." but this season my hatred for her is off the charts (and we're only two episodes in!) 

Edited September 6, 2021 by magemaud

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, Persnickety1 said:

He and Brandon are both in pest control.

Does this line of work attract Russian girls for some reason? At least Brandon was a bit smoother than SteVen, telling Julia he was "talking to his future wife." The best line SteVen could come up with was asking Alina for her number, probably followed by that awkward snorted laugh. 

[anoninrva]

41 minutes ago, magemaud said:

That's altogether possible because I noticed she always says she married him at 19 and they were married for 10 years. She's 29 now, so she must have gone to see the world and ended up getting pregnant in Ethiopia about the same time he went to IU for grad school and never bothered to file for divorce (thinking they'd get back together eventually.) The only thing she didn't foresee was getting knocked up by a vacation fuckboy and how a baby would derail her plans. 

I disliked her last season the moment she dismissively told the prenatal yoga group, "Well, MY birth story is REALLY interesting..." but this season my hatred for her is off the charts (and we're only two episodes in!) 

I didn't really do the math here, and I'm not sure how old the baby is, but there's no way it wasn't conceived during the timeframe in which she considered herself to still be married.  Getting divorced while in Ethiopia has got to be a bit more complicated, assuming she pursued it to begin with, which is questionable.

[Dobian]

Next week with Jenny and Summit on The Other Way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIUhX94Q6Nc

Edited September 6, 2021 by Dobian

[Auntie Anxiety]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

hat's altogether possible because I noticed she always says she married him at 19 and they were married for 10 years. She's 29 now, so she must have gone to see the world and ended up getting pregnant in Ethiopia about the same time he went to IU for grad school and never bothered to file for divorce (thinking they'd get back together eventually.) The only thing she didn't foresee was getting knocked up by a vacation fuckboy and how a baby would derail her plans. 

Didn’t she basically state this? I thought I heard her say that she “broke up” with Leandro, decided she wanted to do some traveling soon thereafter, went to Ethiopia on a lark, picked Bini out of a lineup was taken by Bini’s good looks wen she saw him on the sidewalk, attached herself to him and was pregnant three months later. She believed she would return to Leandro at some point after her travels, but the pregnancy ended up being the monkey wrench in her plans, so she played the hand that was dealt to her (like she was an innocent bystander/victim in the whole sordid episode).

[magemaud]

After her comment to Leandro as he showed him the baby was something like, "See, you could have had this with me..." I wondered if whether or not or when to start a family was something they argued about. He might have sensibly wanted to wait until he was out of school and established in his career but she wanted kids before that. After all, Mommy and Dr. Daddy had always rescued her from her impulsive decisions so why wait? She certainly had the option to use some kind of birth control with Bini, it wasn't like it was a "one night stand," so that leads me to suspect she had baby fever and wanted to get pregnant with anyone and an exotic Black man from Africa really would get her the attention she sought. 

Edited September 6, 2021 by magemaud

[Frozendiva]

Steven and Alina: Girl, you make sure you have a Plan B. Both of you do not really know each other and will be spending time together in a foreign country - aka Turkey. It is a more modern Muslim country and you do have to be careful. Why are you tying yourself down to him at such a young age? Get a good grip on what converting to Mormonism means for you and your life. Think about it. Your hopes and dreams may go bye-bye. And Steven, be honest with Alina. She probably thinks you are part of the whole vow of chastity part. Uh, no. Take things slowly as both of you are pretty immature. Her mom and grandma have a reason to be wary of this.

Corey and Evelin: So she's turning in to Bridezilla? Guess they need a storyline. Witch Covid, the huge, fancy wedding may not happen. The country's health rules come first. And how does one think that the wedding attire will be close to $10,000? Evelin will need 2-3 gowns - one for the ceremony, one for the cocktail hour and maybe dinner, and one for the dance? That kind of cash can go toward a smaller beach wedding and put the money down on a house or something. Maybe TLC will fork out the money for a big and unnecessary 'do'. It's not about the dress and the big day/the white carpet. I can see if Evelin was Miss Universe and the $50,000 wedding would be expected, but really?

Jenny and Sumit: Jenny, how much longer are you going to let this go on? When do you think Sumit is going to marry you? He is having his cake and eating it too. I'd have walked out when I found he lied to me about who he was and if I didn't do it then, I would have when I found out he was married and lied to me about that. Ask him when the divorce will happen and consider him as a prospect then. He just seems to be a lying liar who lies. Sumit will not go against his parents. Someone has his passport? And now you can stay in the country if you become a Hare Krishna? You have spent a lot of time in India just waiting..... 

Bini and Ariela: So, she may not be actually divorced? She just.... left? Did they talk about her ex coming to visit? Did Bini agree to it? Or did she just spring it on him at the last minute? I initially handwaved her getting her nails done to 'look presentable' for a visitor. Not so much. I might meet my ex husband at a public place for dinner if he is visiting my city. That is about it. Take my current spouse along. Her comment about Leandro missing out on having a kid was weird. Something is off with her. This is not a game and these are two real human beings and not people she can just manipulate. I can see him bringing stuff to her that she had 'ordered' from the US. My former boss did some teaching stuff in Sri Lanka and shipping a box of teaching materials by plane was $250 for a 20 lb box. Excess baggage of sorts and folks are advised to put it in a suitcase as part of checked baggage. Buying her the bras was awkward and weird. He did qualify that his current girlfriend actually bought them. Ari may need to figure out who exactly she wants and not pit both against each other with her being the 'prize'. I thought she was only spoiled and entitled but there seems to be more to this mess.

Kenny and Armando: The 'normal' ones probably with manufactured drama. It was cute to watch Hannah teach Kenny some Spanish with the cards. They do seem to be a 'family' that doesn't have too much visible dysfunction. It is hard to watch Armando wonder if his dad knows about his engagement. Kenny may need to pull back and give some space on this. Gay men in the US still continue to face family problems and being disowned by their family. In Mexico, it is probably worse. Armando's dad may or may not ever come around. At least their wedding planners asked about the number of guests and a budget. Even so, with public health restrictions, the wedding may need to be downsized a bit from the 100 plus guests.

Ellie and Victor: Maybe going to Providencia right after a massive hurricane hit the island is not the best idea. Her friends can care for her and wish her the best  and advise her that it's not a great idea, but she is the one making the decision to screw up her life.  It is her decision and lesson to learn. Her friends may be there with the broom and dustpan. Finding out that her soulmate had a domestic violence charge is a massive red flag. She may not have experienced it, but chances are that she may when the 'honeymoon' period is over. For giving up everything, she really hasn't spent much time packing up her stuff. Unless she only has a small apartment and most can be done in a day.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

Why can't Ari say Leandro correctly? It took me until I saw his name on the screen to realize the man's name...my husband's grandson is named Leandro (the mother is of Brazilian decent, I like it, they call him Leo sometimes, it's cute, nice kid too), what is Ari calling that man, eandrahhh?

[lilysmom]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Does this line of work attract Russian girls for some reason? At least Brandon was a bit smoother than SteVen, telling Julia he was "talking to his future wife." The best line SteVen could come up with was asking Alina for her number, probably followed by that awkward snorted laugh. 

They say that when you are in Russia, assume that every hotel room, office, store, etc, are "bugged." Maybe she thinks he has a really bright future working there!!

[Baltimore Betty]

10 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

They say that when you are in Russia, assume that every hotel room, office, store, etc, are "bugged." Maybe she thinks he has a really bright future working there!!

So about 20 some years ago I was friends with a woman whose brother worked for some sort of teacher exchange for an Ivy League school, he lived in Moscow, knew the language, he even was a translator for the news crew when they came to Russia for some hot topic back then but he lived in an apartment that there was always an old woman sitting outside knitting, day and night there was a presence. Mostly he shopped black market and had to hide any purchase he made, would not stay out late, tried to keep regular hours and fly under the radar because those women would report to someone who was told to watch him.  I always doubted his teacher exchange job, it must have been a cover for something more interesting to TPTB in order to be watched.  He himself told me that the government was always listening, SteVen will not be affected, I cannot imagine he says anything interesting.  What kind of deep conversations do we think Alina and SteVen are having?

[JocelynCavanaugh]

Two episodes into this season and it's clear: 90 Day Fiancee: The Other Way is the title because An Idiot Abroad was already taken. None of the Americans, and maybe half of the non-Americans, are capable of making good decisions!

Ari has managed to outkick her coverage twice in a row. Leandro seems like an accomplished and considerate person. Bini may not be as ambitious, but he's been more than gracious with every awkward visit from home that Ari has shoved in his face. Her mom and Andro, so far, aren't the problem, other than the fact that they coddle her. Bini's already conditioned to overbearing women since he was raised by those two racist gossips he calls sisters.

Kenny and Armando seem to be the most beloved couple, but I'm not that crazy about Kenny. He's the type of person who gets away with not bothering to do basic adult things, and not bothering to feign appreciation when others pick up his slack. Armando may be much younger, but he's parenting everyone else in that home on top of teaching bi-directional language courses. My money is on Hannah's English beating Kenny's Spanish -- not just because it's harder for adults to acquire a language, but because Kenny managed to exist for decades in Florida without absorbing words like "muchas gracias" or "malo" (ahem, "MAY-low"). I know more Spanish than that just from watching Sesame Street in the '80s. (Does anyone else remember that jazzy song, "unoDOStres, cuatroCINCOseis, sieteeeeee, ochoooooo, nueveeeeee, DIEZ!")

Alina's hair bothers me so much. She doesn't know how to care for it. It's usually frizzy and dull except in the talking heads, when it's limp and greasy. The cut actively works against the texture. I haven't been to Russia in a long time, but I'm pretty sure they have decent hair products for sale. Maybe she'll stumble into the right salon in Turkey and someone there will pretend they don't understand her and just fix that mess. "Oh, sorry, you said 'just a trim'? I thought you said 'take off 6", totally reshape it, subtle caramel highlights, Brazilian blowout'! My bad." 

Evelin stays in Engabao because her trifling ways aren't sophisticated enough for the big city. She's found a perfect mark in the guileless Mormon from Mill A. She's making the same demands Anfisa made of Jorge; she just screams less.

[Rebky]

Ari is so obviously used to getting what she wants because her parents raised her that way.  She completely expects her ex to be waiting in the wings for her - even after she got married trying to "find herself". She totally expects her current husband to be ok with this. Hopefully there is a steaming hot mug of true reality heading her way - but I am not holding my breath.

[Johannah]

In the previews for next week, Evelin was trying on wedding dresses and asked her sisters if they approved of the wedding.  After they said no, she started saying something like, "Wellllll..." And I got the impression she was going to say something like, "Well, don't worry, I'm not really going to get married.  Just teaching Corey a lesson by making him spend all this money."  She had this sneaky look on her face.

 

[goofygirl]

On 9/4/2021 at 8:23 AM, MrBuhBye said:

I was surprised when Ari admitted that her choice to travel instead of supporting her husband in his postdoctoral studies was immature.  She rarely acknowledges fault.

She probably thought she'd have to get a J-O-B if she stayed.

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Johann said:

In the previews for next week, Evelin was trying on wedding dresses and asked her sisters if they approved of the wedding.  After they said no, she started saying something like, "Wellllll..." And I got the impression she was going to say something like, "Well, don't worry, I'm not really going to get married.  Just teaching Corey a lesson by making him spend all this money."  She had this sneaky look on her face.

Viewers were obviously supposed to jump to the conclusion that she's going to announce that she's pregnant, but I'm wise to TLC's "Next Time On" because they've faked me out so many times that now I'm suspicious. 

[renatae]

21 hours ago, essexjan said:

On 9/6/2021 at 2:52 AM, renatae said:

She can't get any from Amazon? (Yes, they deliver to Ecuador!

Ari is in Ethiopia.

LOL. I did look up Ethiopia, but I must have been watching Evilyn when I typed up my response. They do deliver to Ethiopia.

[renatae]

18 hours ago, Kid said:

Jenny is overreacting!!  This is not his fault!!!  He is a piece of work but she is even worse.  Jenny is such a tool.  

I disagree because he has no plans to marry her. He is just stringing her along and does not plan to disobey his parents. I think he said as much in a TH last year. Yes, she's a tool because she keeps believing him, but he is a liar through and through.

[Mrs. Hanson]

3 hours ago, renatae said:

LOL. I did look up Ethiopia, but I must have been watching Evilyn when I typed up my response. They do deliver to Ethiopia.

Per Amazon:  Do they deliver to Moldova?  According to the Family Libby, they do not.

 

13 hours ago, Johann said:

In the previews for next week, Evelin was trying on wedding dresses and asked her sisters if they approved of the wedding.  After they said no, she started saying something like, "Wellllll..." And I got the impression she was going to say something like, "Well, don't worry, I'm not really going to get married.  Just teaching Corey a lesson by making him spend all this money."  She had this sneaky look on her face.

 

I really applaud you for watching Evelyn the whole way through.  Bolding:  Who asks such questions?  To people who KNOW of your ex's past?

 

18 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Gay men in the US still continue to face family problems and being disowned by their family.

Per Kenny and Armando:  I ff through their scenes as I don't like the producer driven drama, plus I get tired of Kenny pushing the "Let's BE Free to be You and ME" all the time.  Same Sex Marriage has been legal since only 2013, buddy boy, and in many places in the US and in Mexico, I am sure, there are parts that are not cool with it, just like there are places that are fine, not just because they have to be, legally.

 

20 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

He and Brandon are both in pest control.

I know there's a snarky comparison there, yet I can't yet quite put my finger on it. 

May I?  Someone needs to turn the sprayer on each of them?  There is no chemical around that will repel these two creeps?  It is early, I am trying.......

[Pepper Mostly]

14 hours ago, Johann said:

In the previews for next week, Evelin was trying on wedding dresses and asked her sisters if they approved of the wedding.  After they said no, she started saying something like, "Wellllll..." And I got the impression she was going to say something like, "Well, don't worry, I'm not really going to get married.  Just teaching Corey a lesson by making him spend all this money."  She had this sneaky look on her face.

 

That's just her natural expression.

[Mrs. Hanson]

38 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

That's just her natural expression.

Along with resting bitch face.  Kinda 50/50, really.

[Xebug67]

On 9/3/2021 at 8:01 PM, Frozendiva said:

I watched the 20 minute preview.

Bini, you are being a bit much because your wife is getting two nails replaced. Big deal and it doesn't mean anything, doesn't mean she wants her ex-husband.  

Alina, you are a bit young to get married to Steven. Finish your education and see if you still want him then. What is the rush to get to Turkey and meet him and get married? Learn all you can about the Mormon faith. Russia's internet does block things and you need to know exactly what you are getting in to. His boss was too nice to him, but he also said to not rush in to any sort of commitment.

Evelin, you want a wedding in the $25-50,000 US price range? Who do you think you are? Some celebrity? You can probably have a very nice wedding and reception for probably $10,000. No, you don't need the fancy dress (since you are already married) and the big, let's make all the women on the island jealous. The wedding planner is probably counting the dollars she'll make from these suckers, er, Corey the Sucker. And then you tell him that the man/groom pays for everything. Uh, look that up, Corey.

Evelin's been a scammer since their first season, always holding her hand out for money, and Corey's the idiot that keeps giving her more and more money.  I wonder if he came into any sort or inheritance subsequent to his father passing away, and she knows about it and wants him to spend all of it on her/her family.  I can't stand this beyotch, but I also have zero respect or sympathy for Corey, who willingly and determinedly kept insisting on retaining his relationship with this low class ho.

On 9/3/2021 at 8:04 PM, MrBuhBye said:

Yeah giving up a door to door pest control job is giving up a lot.

How is it that this guy gets uglier and uglier every time his mug is plastered on my screen?  And the Russian girlfriend likes his scuzzy, stringy, thin long hair?  He looked way better with the shorter hair.  I also think he had fewer zits and less greasy skin in those older photos that they show of him.  He's a real catch, this one.  Sarcasm intended!

[Xebug67]

On 9/3/2021 at 8:04 PM, MrBuhBye said:

Yeah giving up a door to door pest control job is giving up a lot.

What is it about this guy that he gets uglier and uglier each time they plaster his face on my screen?  And the Russian girlfriend really likes his long, thin, scuzzy, scraggly hair?  His grossly disgusting hair rates right down there with Ellie's five-head, balding, scraggly kinky curls.  

He's a real catch, this one is.

She needs to listen to her mother, grandmother and best friends and slow her roll, which we all very well know she isn't going to do, given that she's appearing on this show.

[Colfrmb]

I want to slow down the video to figure out what Ari is calling her previous husband.  Half the time I can’t tell what she is calling Bini-baby.    I’m wondering whether Ari’s ex/Leandro is a little too nice and low key about this whole sick situation.  I’m sure that when she hooked up with Leo/Andro at the age of 19 her parents were more thrilled than when they heard she had gotten knocked up by an Ethiopian disco dancer.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they paid Leandro off hoping she might come back to him eventually.  And guess what? Here we are.  I bet Parents Ariela paid for Leandro’s education or a part of it.  

[Xebug67]

On 9/4/2021 at 1:13 AM, renatae said:

I'm watching the sneak preview -

Ari, you are truly disgusting. Doing your nails for the ex. Leaving off your ring. Special makeup and the short dress Bini has apparently been asking you to wear forever finally comes out. Well, karma - that short dress with the stupid boots makes your legs look fat and your body look dumb. Good luck with your attempt to put the horns on Bini.

Come on now.  She solicited Bini's opinion as to whether he liked the yellow polish and she should use it again.  If that isn't inclusivity then I don't know what is, LOL.

Renatae, you're being overly kind when you say she's disgusting.  She's much worse than that.

What I'm dying to know is how in the world does someone who is this homely have such an over-inflated ego about herself?  Does she not ever look in a mirror and see her true reflection with her pig snout, recessive upper lip that's way too small to cover her overly large seemingly buck teeth, and dumpy body?

Or has this heifer let having "starred" in that music video go to her head?

The ???ex??? husband (are they even legally divorced as yet?) fleetingly made mention of a girlfriend, when saying that she was the one who picked out the bras for Ari.  I wonder how SHE feels about this whole situation of staying with his ???ex??? wife.

[Mrs. Hanson]

32 minutes ago, Xebug67 said:

Evelin's been a scammer since their first season, always holding her hand out for money, and Corey's the idiot that keeps giving her more and more money.  I wonder if he came into any sort or inheritance subsequent to his father passing away, and she knows about it and wants him to spend all of it on her/her family.  I can't stand this beyotch, but I also have zero respect or sympathy for Corey, who willingly and determinedly kept insisting on retaining his relationship with this low class ho.

How is it that this guy gets uglier and uglier every time his mug is plastered on my screen?  And the Russian girlfriend likes his scuzzy, stringy, thin long hair?  He looked way better with the shorter hair.  I also think he had fewer zits and less greasy skin in those older photos that they show of him.  He's a real catch, this one.  Sarcasm intended!

My internet was down all weekend but I could watch a bit on D plus Saturday and all I could think was:  Super Cuts and Proactive, STAT!!!!

 

20 minutes ago, Xebug67 said:

What I'm dying to know is how in the world does someone who is this homely have such an over-inflated ego about herself?  Does she not ever look in a mirror and see her true reflection with her pig snout, recessive upper lip that's way too small to cover her overly large seemingly buck teeth, and dumpy body?

I am on my prep so let's take a quick minute to ask what do any of these fools see when they see themselves and think they are deserving of an allegedly hotter, younger mate?  Angela, Ed, That Weird Guy and Lana, Weird Mark and Nikki from Baltimore, etc.....I could go on but I do have work to do, lol.  Frankly, all these "catches" are "releases" to me:  Mik-hul, Victor, Steven, Ed, Bini, Corey, etc.  The only one I found attractive was Aladin.  And Bini does seem sweet, so there is that.  I would need my man to have more of a career than playing bongos on his ex's butt though.

[Persnickety1]

6 hours ago, renatae said:

I disagree because he has no plans to marry her. He is just stringing her along and does not plan to disobey his parents. I think he said as much in a TH last year. Yes, she's a tool because she keeps believing him, but he is a liar through and through.

And, seriously, damn Sumbitch for making me sympathetic towards Jenny.

What was that bullshit he said, "I need to force you to calm down."  Force???  Force her to calm down because you've been feeding her shovelfuls of bullshit for years and maybe she's finally reached her limit?  

And he says it with that smug, sanctimonious, patronizing tone as he acts like she's being irrational or unreasonable.

She's entitled to her anger.  He's been stringing her along for years now.  Hell, if I were in her shoes, I'd have hurled that chair at his fucking bobble head, not out the door.  (Of course, I'd never be in her shoes because as soon as that lying little weasel admitted to catfishing me, I'd have bounced like a rubber ball.)

He really is a gaslighter supreme.  

[Persnickety1]

1 hour ago, Xebug67 said:

Come on now.  She solicited Bini's opinion as to whether he liked the yellow polish and she should use it again.  If that isn't inclusivity then I don't know what is, LOL.

Renatae, you're being overly kind when you say she's disgusting.  She's much worse than that.

What I'm dying to know is how in the world does someone who is this homely have such an over-inflated ego about herself?  Does she not ever look in a mirror and see her true reflection with her pig snout, recessive upper lip that's way too small to cover her overly large seemingly buck teeth, and dumpy body?

Or has this heifer let having "starred" in that music video go to her head?

The ???ex??? husband (are they even legally divorced as yet?) fleetingly made mention of a girlfriend, when saying that she was the one who picked out the bras for Ari.  I wonder how SHE feels about this whole situation of staying with his ???ex??? wife.

Spoiler

I did some digging on Google to try and find some background info for the ex.  He's quite the brainiac.  Goddess knows what he ever saw in Ari.  Anyway, apparently they were divorced in 2018, but Ari cannot bring Bini over on a visa because she brought Leo over on one.  I have no idea how factual that is, but there are a bunch of articles on Google regarding Ari, Leo and Bini.  

 

[Mrs. Hanson]

34 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

She's entitled to her anger.  He's been stringing her along for years now.  Hell, if I were in her shoes, I'd have hurled that chair at his fucking bobble head, not out the door.  (Of course, I'd never be in her shoes because as soon as that lying little weasel admitted to catfishing me, I'd have bounced like a rubber ball.)

He really is a gaslighter supreme.  

Yes she is.  And she is entitled to go home and drop this whole thing.

A bit off topic:  I just went into a co-workers room (she had no students) and said, "Hey, I need to give myself a break!  I need to learn the ropes around here!"  Good God I sounded like Father Libby!!!  (I am at a new school, fyi.)

[Marley GMA]

On 9/4/2021 at 1:19 PM, Breedom said:

Yeah, I wasn't going for all that. Bini seems like a nice guy and Ari asked a few times if he was jealous. Is that her whole game here? Doing and saying everything she can say to try and make her current husband jealous? What an immature thing to do, and yeah, sure - this stunt is really going to make your marriage stronger. It'll only prove to your husband how manipulating you are. Maybe Ari thinks this is common in the US so not protesting much, but if she pulled this in the US with an American husband few guys would put up with it.

Ari....you are one of the most annoying, immature people on this franchise and that is saying ALOT.  You are purposely trying to make Bini jealous and he has been nothing but kind and eager to please you.  I have had it with you and your puppylove with your EX HUSBAND. What in the hell is wrong with you.  Where is your seemingly sensible mother in all this.  I hope they both leave you.  You would deserve it!!

Edited September 7, 2021 by Marley GMA

[Xebug67]

On 9/5/2021 at 9:18 PM, CainF said:

Is it possible that Evelin is gunning for the break-the-bank (and then some) wedding because she thinks it will alienate Corey to give her up and go back to the US?  Someone who didn't even desire matrimony is now asking her groom to be to foot a $50k wedding?  I hope Evelin thought this strategy through because Corey might just be credit-worthy (and stupid) enough to go through with it.  

Speaking of Corey, I have to say the scales have significantly tipped in who's the most attractive in this pair.  Corey is looking downright totally hot this season.  

Why would this Russian young woman Alina want to be with this guy who excuses himself from an outside lunch with his family by telling them all he's going to walk over to another spot in the yard and fart?  I guess being Mormon can't buy you class (or a good haircut, or apparently a good Mormon girl stateside).

Armando and Kenny and Kenny's girdles or shapewear or whatever are just so boring.  Kenny, we get it with every disgruntled look that comes over your face, that you are just horrified that in Mexico you don't enjoy the full acceptance that you have as a gay man in America (while pointing out the ways gay people in America still are discriminated against, quite legally).

Ariel, looks as if you're going for divorce number 2.  The common denominator seems to be your selfishness.  While I suspect Ariel's ex being in town as mostly producer-driven, I also suspect that Bini's comprehension of what is going on is seriously handicapped (as equally by the obvious gut punch this move would give to anyone's current spouse as by his understanding of English...throw in the nanny's and his family's reactions if the recipe for your version of this doesn't end well even if no harm was ever meant needs a dash more).

Given what a con artist, money-grubbing scammer I have always though Evelin to be, I'm surprised she's not instead telling desperate, imbecile Corey that in Ecuador, $50,000 is the dowry amount that grooms-to-be must pay to their future wives before they can marry them.  I find it hard to believe that this selfish, self-serving beyotch would want to have that much money of Corey's spent on people other than her and her family.  That's $50,000 less she'll be able to milk him out of once they are finally married, if they ever do finally marry.

It's funny that you say that about Corey's attractiveness, because I've always thought with those gorgeous blue eyes he should be much more attractive than he is, but I don't find him at all attractive.  His face and teeth are very ferret/weasel-like to me.  He's also put on quite a few pounds.  But if he's to be compared to his ugly Bridezilla, he definitely wins the competition in the looks department between the two of them.

The only thing I'm curious about re the Mormon and the Russian Girlfriend is how they will survive living in Turkey, where neither one of them has any personal ties, and both will have a language barrier.  While Mormon boy's plans of having them live separately somewhat make sense as relates to the Mormon marrying person maybe not approving the marriage if they know that these two cohabited prior to marrying, the other reasons for the separate accommodations (namely Mormon boy's inability to keep it in his pants and having repeatedly succumbed to sexual temptations thus far) are pathetic and disgusting.  It's beyond stupid that he can't control his urges and acting out on them behavior.  It's totally understandable to me that the girlfriend is afraid to live by herself in a country where they know no one as a solitary female.  But also how can they get to know each other well enough to decide if they want to marry if they don't live under the same roof?

Re Armando and Kenny, Armando remains adorable and lovable as ever, and seemingly such an awesome dad.  I love watching his interactions with his daughter.  She's such a sweet little cutie (and I'm the last person on earth to say many nice things about kids).  I don't know what it is about Kenny, but I just have never been able to warm up to him.  There's nothing awful, mean or glaringly unlikable about him.  It's just something about how my gut reacts to him, giving me negative vibes when he's never done anything to deserve negative criticism or a bad reaction.  He obviously was a great dad from how much all of his kids love and were so supportive of him in his romancing of and proposing to Armando.  He's also a great 2nd dad to Armando's daughter.  And he also adores his little dog, too, which in my book anyone who is loving towards their pets gets a thumbs up in my book (that sadly includes Coltee and Debbie, who just adore their cats).  I do feel like Armando's the more mature person in this couple, despite how much younger than he is compared with Kenny.  I did think when Kenny first moved away from his kids and grandson that he seemed so much colder about leaving them than I would have thought he would be since he adored them all as much as they love him.  Now I see that he was putting on a stiff upper lip about separating himself from them but it's now catching up to him how much he misses them all.  This is one couple I want to see succeed and be happy together and never split up.

Pig-faced Ari is, has, and always will be selfish, putting HER needs ahead of those of anyone else.  And I'm sad to say that I think that also includes baby Bini.  She does not strike me as the type of mother that would ever sacrifice her needs/wants for her child.  The ex-husband is way cuter than I would ever have thought it possible for Miss Piggie to have nabbed as an ex-husband.  This whole three's company situation of the ex-husband coming to stay with Ari and Bini is ridiculous.  Why couldn't he continue to vacation at the hotel that they picked him up from?  Bini's feeling uncomfortable in his own home just so as to accommodate Miss Piggie's desires to have her ex-husband stay with them is unacceptable in my opinion, and I hope his sister's gang up on her to make her even more miserable than they thus far have in defense of their lame AF brother.  Somebody needs to stand up to this obnoxious hosebeast.  It's INAPPROPRIATE you dumb beyotch.  Think of your future husband's feelings in all this vs. your EX-husband's.  And how is Andro not feeling awkward and uncomfortable as well?  I totally believe that she's still in love with the ex and never expected to be divorced from him.  She stupidly left what maybe was otherwise a good marriage, and now in hindsight realizes she misses what she walked away from and probably wants to pick up where she left off with the ex, but now she's stuck with her most recent choice of Bini and having had a baby with Bini, which totally complicates her being able to dump Bini so as to go back to the ex.  There's also a girlfriend in the ex's life, so there's that obstacle as well.

[hookedontv]

Every time Ellie comes on screen, I can only think of Kristin Wiig from SNL: 

[magemaud]

On 9/6/2021 at 11:20 AM, Kid said:

Don’t do it Alina!!!   Don’t do it!!!

Don't do it Ellie!!! Don't do it!!!

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, Xebug67 said:

Come on now.  She solicited Bini's opinion as to whether he liked the yellow polish and she should use it again.  If that isn't inclusivity then I don't know what is, LOL.

I noticed that, but only saw her wearing and the nail tech applying bright pink 

[Baltimore Betty]

14 hours ago, goofygirl said:

She probably thought she'd have to get a J-O-B if she stayed.

Can you imagine opting to live in Ethiopia rather than getting a job...seems extreme if you ask me.

What was that appliance Mr. Ex handed to Bini?

The bras were not in a bag from the store, that seemed like production really wanted to drive the bra story home.  Ari said her bra size has changed, without shopping for a bra or getting fitted for one how would she tell her mother what size to buy?  I bet the girlfriend was really thrilled to buy black bras for her boyfriend to give to his ex.  

Bini does not really have the right to complain about the ex visiting, after all we have seen BIni dance with his ex and that included the butt bongo dance move.

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

(I am at a new school, fyi.)

Maybe you'll make some new friends who watch the show! 

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1 hour ago, Persnickety1 said:

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I did some digging on Google to try and find some background info for the ex.  He's quite the brainiac.  Goddess knows what he ever saw in Ari.  Anyway, apparently they were divorced in 2018, but Ari cannot bring Bini over on a visa because she brought Leo over on one.  I have no idea how factual that is, but there are a bunch of articles on Google regarding Ari, Leo and Bini.  

 

I thought Bini can’t come anyway because he overstayed a previous visa.

[Xebug67]

On 9/6/2021 at 12:52 AM, renatae said:

Ari is bugging me even more now that I've seen the whole episode. She has the ex bring her bras? She can't have her mom send her some? She can't get any from Amazon? (Yes, they deliver to Ecuador! And they also sell Bali, one of the better brands.)

Her backstory about why she left her husband highlights her selfishness and stupidity in spades. "I didn't really want to go but I wanted to travel everywhere. I didn't really want to break up with him, I just hoped if traveling turned out not to be fun, I wanted him to still be there, but I met Bini." She is so thoughtless and apparently really broke Leandro's heart. I can't believe he forgave her childish capriciousness.

She outright admitted she was glad Bini was jealous. The only thing cute about this is the adorable baby.

Jenny, for crying out loud - leave!!!!

What Miss Piggie said about needing good bras brought to her because she can only find junk in Ethiopia was literally one of the lamest things I've ever heard any of these reality hos say.  In addition to what you've already mentioned as purchase options (mom, Amazon), she can also directly order from the Victoria's Secret website if that's her preferred brand?  Bini totally had a right to be bothered about this.

Her conceit in thinking that she could return to Andro whenever she felt like it galls me, and I hope that she did try to get back together with him and was rejected.  We don't know enough about that backstory as yet to know if she did try to reunite with him OR if she met Bini and never tried.

Re desperate Jenny and Sumit, I was actually shocked when Sumit stopped Granny from leaving.  I thought he would be relieved to finally have her go.  And then to go even further as to meet with an attorney to see what other options there were for her to remain in India was that much more surprising to me. 

He's never going to marry her, and if he's waiting for his parents to pass away so he can finally control his own life and then marry Jenny he's going to be in for a shock, because Jenny will likely pre-decease his parents since she's older than both of them.

Maybe it was laziness that drove Sumit to seek other options for Jenny than having to leave the country every six months.  He's probably tired of having to go with her to keep her company when she has to do this each interval.

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17 minutes ago, Xebug67 said:

I don't know what it is about Kenny, but I just have never been able to warm up to him.  There's nothing awful, mean or glaringly unlikable about him.  It's just something about how my gut reacts to him, giving me negative vibes when he's never done anything to deserve negative criticism or a bad reaction. 

He seems like the type that always demands to speak to the manager (what Karen used to mean pre BLM).

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8 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

What was that appliance Mr. Ex handed to Bini?

Speakers.

[Xebug67]

On 9/6/2021 at 5:03 AM, essexjan said:

Ari is in Ethiopia.

I don't have an issue with the bras. If her mother had sent some in the mail, they may have gone astray. If there's someone coming over from the USA, I can't see the problem in that person bringing items over that can't be sourced in Ethiopia, and after recently giving birth, her reason for needing new bras is entirely plausible. Leandro made it clear these were things Ari had ordered, it wasn't as if he randomly decided to buy her sexy lingerie. I am certain Bini was aware of this, so more producer-driven fake drama, I think.

But I do think Bini has genuine cause for concern about Ari's behaviour around Leandro - making an extra effort to look good for him, her comments about how she was sure they'd get back together, but then she met (and got knocked up by) Bini, etc. I think Bini has been pretty low-key about Ari's behaviour because he's been through the situation once before where his American wife and child disappeared on him, and so he's doing what he can to make sure this doesn't happen a second time.

Ari is very selfish and self-centred. To describe Leandro as her Best Friend when she has a fiance would be a big red flag for me if I were Bini.

The Jenny/Sumit storyline is ridiculous.

The only other couple I care about is Kenny and Armando, but as someone said upthread, it's all a bit boring.

There seems to be a glaring difference between Miss Piggie's relationship with Andro and Bini.  She and Andro supposedly met and fell in love hard with each other.  Where Bini's concerned, they met and fell in the sack together, which got her knocked up.  Based on that alone, I don't know if she would still be in a relationship with Bini if she didn't have a child with him.  Her connection to him doesn't seem to be as strong as the one she shares with the ex.  Her connection with her ex seems to be on a very deep, "soul mate" level, and with Bini on a very superficial attraction level (though she does miss those dreads).  Bini has a LOT to be concerned about with regards to history repeating itself twice on him.

The "best friend" terminology re the ex has rubbed me the wrong way since she initially began to repeatedly utter that about him.  It bugs on the same level as when Tania said that Syngin was not her soul mate.

Edited September 7, 2021 by Xebug67

[CrazyInAlabama]

Ari's fascination with Bini ended when the dreads were cut off, and she realized what life in Ethiopia would be like for her.  

[Xebug67]

On 9/6/2021 at 9:04 AM, Persnickety1 said:

He and Brandon are both in pest control.

I know there's a snarky comparison there, yet I can't yet quite put my finger on it.  

I'm not sure they're actually divorced.  

I've heard "broke up," but never the actual word "divorced."  

I'm curious to see how this one plays out.  

It almost feels as if Ari the gigantic flake who just doesn't "show up" in her marriage is looking for a reason to bounce from Bini and head back to the States.  

I noted the pest control comparison as well, and likewise cannot come up with anything wit worthy to say about it.  I also don't want to be completely dismissive and disrespectful of the profession of pest control exterminators just based on these two weirdos.  At least it's honest, gainful employment and nothing shady.

My gut has been totally telling me that Miss Piggie never divorced her ex, based on all her interesting word choices she's thus far used about her former relationship.  She's never ever once said she's actually DIVORCED from him.  This is yet another common storyline that Sharp loves to perpetuate - that of one of the members of the couple still being married to someone else. 

For a long time now I've totally thought that Miss Piggie was not going to be happy remaining in Ethiopia.  I think she gets off more on being thought of as an adventurous person among her group of friends/acquaintances (assuming she has any actual friends), and wants to be envied by them for being such a brave and interesting world traveler (and she is so NOT interesting in any way, shape or form).  I still remember the shock value she seemed to enjoy the impact of when telling some group of girls/women in an ???aerobics/???Lamaze class she was shown participating in before she flew to be with Bini during their first season.

This has so not turned out to be what she likely thought it was going to be before permanently moving to Ethiopia to be with Bini, and Andro strikes me as being her ticket home to the U.S.

 

Edited September 8, 2021 by Xebug67

[Tango64]

Ari was so enjoying that moment with her supposed ex bestowing gifts on her as she reposed like a queen, with her supposed partner feeling embarassed and hurt. This was exactly what she wanted when she invited the old flame to visit. Bini's discomfort and anger was entirely the point. She would have been utterly disappointed if he just rolled with it and was entirely relaxed.

The brainic ex was wrong to bring the bras, and especially wrong to present them to Ari in a grand way in front of Bini. Producer-driven, I'm sure, but any decent man would have, at a minimum, said, "I also brought the package of clothing items you asked my girlfriend to pick out for you. I'll leave that for you to open later." Displaying black bras in front of Bini was an intentional affront to him and his more modest culture.

And Ari knew that. And Ari loved that.