Lablover27 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I'm sad that he lost his best friend and father, but what the fuck does that have to do with any of this??? Desperation at its finest. And more: In what appears to be an attempt to gain leniency from Judge Salas, Joe’s attorney appealed to the court in his pre-sentence statement. Miles Feinstein said that Joe Giudice is a generous and self-made man, not the “Housewives Joe” that viewers see on The Real Housewives of New Jersey. It could be seen that by using this argument Feinstein is attempting to partially blame Bravo production and the way the show is edited. Feinstein has used also said that Joe Giudice’s father Frank’s sudden death in June played a role in the omissions on the Giudices financial reports. Oh for ............ *cough*bullshit*cough* 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430243
luckykat October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) I really hope she saw the clip of Teresa talking about how she can't tolerate living in a house someone else has lived in because it skeeves her out. Teresa's exact quote about living in a home that was not brand new construction: "that's gross." I'll bet casa-de-juicy is bigger (and surely more gaudy) than Judge Salas' (a federal Judge appointed by the President, confirmed by the Senate) home. Edited October 2, 2014 by luckykat 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430258
Iguessnot October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Production could have bought it and just let Nene and Greg live there. As long as it isn't put in their names, I don't think the $$ come into play as income. That's not how it works and that's how people keep getting it up the butt with the IRS. Providing a residence is compensation. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430260
breezy424 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 As I was reading the article in North Jersey.com, I noticed another article about Emporio Motors. That's where Joe and Melissa's Bentley comes from. http://www.northjersey.com/news/ramsey-luxury-car-dealer-under-probe-after-accusations-of-fraud-1.1100311 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430262
Rhetorica October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Well crap, I have to leave soon for a Hospice meeting. I'm choreographing dances for an annual fundraiser. I know this is more important than Joe & Tre, but I wanna be here-I'm awful... I'll check in later and post the pool winner. Enjoy! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430265
HumblePi October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Desperation at its finest. Oh for ............ *cough*bullshit*cough* I happened to catch the reunion episode from 2012 when it was revealed that Joe was bonking some woman on his desk at work when Teresa walked in on them. She said "he's my husband and I love him and of course, I forgive him" to which Joe replied ":yeah and it cost me plenty believe me. I had to keep going back to the jewelry store to exchange what she didn't want, usually all I have to do is hand it to her and she's happy". At that, Teresa displayed her long diamond earrings and diamond bracelet with a triumphant smile. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430295
tvfanatic13 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I feel your pain Rhetorica. I too must go to a meeting and I can't tear myself away! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430297
Emme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Interesting note on why sentencing was delayed (from radaronline.com): The judge was also fuming at the fact that the Giudices had missed deadline to file the disclosure forms — by five months — which, in turn, slowed the proceedings to a screeching halt. “I had to put the sentencing off because the financial disclosure wasn’t in,” Salas said. So, it wasn't due to Franco's death? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430301
zoeysmom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 More: Judge Esther Salas expressed frustration with the couple because she said they have assets that weren't declared in their financial disclosure forms. The judge also questioned why the couple declared only $25,000 worth of items in their home, even though their insurance policy is worth $1 million. In 2009 bankruptcy filings, the couple showed $60,000 in assets in their home, the judge said. "They had an obligation to be transparent and candid and open with the court and I don't think I got that," Salas said. "I want to understand the disconnect." The prosecutor also expressed his concerns. "It's the same pattern of obstruction and dishonesty and manipulation that they showed in the bankruptcy case," the prosecutor told Salas. During the hearing, Joe Giudice's lawyer, Miles Feinstein, also noted his client's father died in June, adding Giddice has been deeply affected by the death. "He hasn't been the same person," Feinstein said. "That was his best friend." The paperwork was due long before Joe's father died. It is counting-it is not writing a defendant's sentencing statement 1 RV, 3 quads, 1 Maserati . . . this is not something that takes deep thought. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430303
TattleTeeny October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I feel your pain Rhetorica. I too must go to a meeting and I can't tear myself away! I have an urge to leave work and go drive past their house. It's certainly not a logical urge and yet there it is... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430311
leisawoo October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 My reason for thinking Teresa will get house arrest has nothing to do with PR messages or statement from anyone. It's based on my jaded view that justice is not always served. It seems to me that shitty people often times get away with things while those who really do make an honest mistake - or those who don't have millions to spend on a defense team - get the shaft. I think posters here are basing their guesses on sentencing on gut feelings not because they are buying into the PR or Bravo propaganda or waht a blogger may say. Thanks happykitteh! I thought that's all I was doing, lol! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430314
HumblePi October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I only wish that Judge Esther Salas looked more like a mean-looking old fuddy-duddy die-hard Republican Judge than someone that could be a kindergarten teacher or sales girl at Macy's. http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/2011/06/9704129-large.jpg 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430337
Jennifersdc October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Unfortunately I can't extend lunch any longer, but I'll be checking in. A little trip down memory lane though. Remember the 1/2 second Teresa tried to act like she was taking the BK seriously and economizing? The paper plates from the dollar store at Gia's birthday party that was held at a pizzeria and not some extravagant locale. That was the sum total of her efforts. She's a complete idiot and this is where she ended up. Hope it was worth it. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430339
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) The paperwork was due long before Joe's father died. It is counting-it is not writing a defendant's sentencing statement 1 RV, 3 quads, 1 Maserati . . . this is not something that takes deep thought. Is it wrong I was reading that to the tune of "A Partridge in a Pear Tree"? Edited October 2, 2014 by Persnickety1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430342
shoegal October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) NJ News Tweet: Joe Giudice of #RHONJ got 53 months and supervised released for two years - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ second tweet: North Jersey News @NorthJerseybrk · now34 seconds ago #RHONJ case: Sentences are concurrent making Joe Giudices sentence 41 months w/restitution payment of $414,588 - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ Edited October 2, 2014 by shoegal 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430344
pawsodoom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 NJ News Tweet: Joe Giudice of #RHONJ got 53 months and supervised released for two years - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ Hot damn. Hang on Teresa, it isn't going to be pretty. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430352
fliptopbox October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Is this being televised somewhere? Where are you guys getting so much up to the minute info? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430353
pawsodoom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 #RHONJ case: Sentences are concurrent making Joe Giudices sentence 41 months w/restitution payment of $414,588 - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430359
Emme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Does anyone here know if the sentencing could take more than one day? Or, is it likely to wrap today? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430361
LotusFlower October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) NJ News Tweet: Joe Giudice of #RHONJ got 53 months and supervised released for two years - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ Jesus Christ - she gave him more than the guideline range! Er, maybe not - 3+ years, plus 2yr. probation. Edited October 2, 2014 by LotusFlower 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430365
shoegal October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Is this being televised somewhere? Where are you guys getting so much up to the minute info? Twitter. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430366
LotusFlower October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Is this being televised somewhere? Where are you guys getting so much up to the minute info? Twitter, lots of news sites (NJ), reality TV gossip sites/blogs.... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430370
Emme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Does anyone here know if the sentencing could take more than one day? Or, is it likely to wrap today? Oops. Sounds like it's wrapping up now!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430371
fliptopbox October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Twitter. Ahhhh. Makes sense. Damn Twitter. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430373
Lablover27 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 What about Tre? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430374
pawsodoom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) Joe Giudice got 41 months with restitution payment, Teresa still waiting but won't serve at the same time - #RHONJ Per North Jersey News Twitter Edited October 2, 2014 by pawsodoom Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430376
shoegal October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 What about Tre? No news yet. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430377
sevenatenine October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Saw a tweet that said she was still waiting but had been told they won't serve at the same time. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430378
motorcitymom65 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 NJ News Tweet: Joe Giudice of #RHONJ got 53 months and supervised released for two years - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ second tweet: North Jersey News @NorthJerseybrk · now34 seconds ago #RHONJ case: Sentences are concurrent making Joe Giudices sentence 41 months w/restitution payment of $414,588 - http://bit.ly/1E4GfLQ And from that second tweet: "Teresa is still awaiting sentencing but the judge has agreed that she will not serve her sentence at the same time as Joe so one of them can always be caring for their four daughters". Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430383
HumblePi October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I don't know, it might be this one too? I wonder if this song is running through either of their minds right now: http://youtu.be/4F4yT0KAMyo?list=PLI0HFL5gRKn5q4Fhd59psnjV_oXRxNPIv Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430389
LotusFlower October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Saw a tweet that said she was still waiting but had been told they won't serve at the same time. So she's gonna do time??!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430393
HumblePi October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 WOW Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430397
Lablover27 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Saw a tweet that said she was still waiting but had been told they won't serve at the same time. Oh she's serving. DOWN goes probation. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430400
pawsodoom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Just before sentencing, he (Guidice) stood up and nervously read a letter. "I stand here humiliated before the court and my family and society," he said. "I disgraced many people, including my wife and four daughters. I take full responsibility for my actions. I promise to be a better person." http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/10/joe_and_teresa_giudice_sentenced_prison_time_real_housewives_of_new_jersey_rhonj.html#incart_river Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430403
politichick October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I hope they both learn their fates today. There's still time. I covered the sentencing hearing of former congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. and his wife Sandy, and it lasted a major portion of the day. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430405
Brooke0707 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I guess it pays to have children when you commit crimes. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430407
One Tough Cookie October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 guess the only saving grace vis a vis their lawyers is that the Guidices didn't declare that they are indigent, thus the taxpayers aren't footing the legal bills. Give them time--I'm sure they will come up with that at some point. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430408
LotusFlower October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I feel like I'm holding a lottery ticket, and im waiting for the numbers! I forgot exactly what I predicted, but I'm close! (Along with lots others!) 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430410
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Well, that shit got real in a hurry. I wonder when Joe will have to report to begin his sentence? And totally agree...Teresa, you're going to prison...That can be the only reason the judge stipulated they would be serving at different times. Holy guacamole....That was a lot harsher sentence than I was anticipating. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430413
sevenatenine October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I'm glad they won't have to serve at the same time, for the sake of the girls. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430414
Raiderred October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I guess it pays to have children when you commit crimes. I guess so. Pathetic! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430415
shoegal October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 NBC tweet: Steven Bognar @Bogs4NY · now43 seconds ago BREAKING: Teresa Guidice sentenced to be announced at 2pm after court recess #NBC4NY #RHONJ Does this mean I can go get lunch?? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430416
TheFinalRose October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) HLN talking about case now but not reporting sentence. Wow. So much for their news feed. Edited October 2, 2014 by TheFinalRose Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430419
diorella78 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 But will it really be 3 years? The cynic in me sees Juicy out in a year, year and a half. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430421
Raiderred October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I'm glad they won't have to serve at the same time, for the sake of the girls. I hate to see children involved with any idiot parent(s), but how many other parents are offered this kind of deal??? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430422
Rahul October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I guess it pays to have children when you commit crimes. It does appear to offer some modicum of leniency. I know it may sound harsh, but I was actually hoping for concurrent sentences. The more severe the punishment, the more likely it may actually register with these two buffoons. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430423
Jennifersdc October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Wow. Well I think I'm out on Joe - guessed 36 months. Glad I upped Teresa to 12 months. I did call the staggered sentencing though. But are we using the 53 or 41 month sentence? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430424
sevenatenine October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I guess so. Pathetic! I really think it only benefits the girls to have them serve at different times. If it were just the two of them, I would guess they'd prefer to just serve concurrently and get it over with. I bet Joe goes first so Teresa can continue to make money while she's "hot." I'd hate to have 18 months of prison hanging over my head for four years before I could just get it over with! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430425
motorcitymom65 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 HLN talking about case now but not reporting sentence. What a dumb fucking network. No wonder their ratings suck. They are sitting there talking about the case and wondering if they will serve time. Hey Newspeople, why don't you do your job and report the breaking news that one of them has been sentenced instead of pondering the likelihood of such an event? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430432
superyooper October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 But will it really be 3 years? The cynic in me sees Juicy out in a year, year and a half. From this, it appears that the judge would have to make that decision herself and she doesn't appear eager to grant them leniency: >>Salas told attorneys that sentencing guidelines for Joe ranged from 37 to 46 months; and 21 to 27 months for Teresa, both with no probation unless she were to amend the sentencing based on their situation.<< Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/21/#findComment-430438
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