"The View": Week of 6/8/2020

[bannana]

Whoopi tries to set MeAgain straight!

[MeThinkMeNot]

Damn you Whoopi! We were finally going to hear Meghan try to explain away her Colin K hate and instead of coming back and asking her that question, they change the topic so she can talk about something else. Sunny's face during that part was funny, but I wanted someone to ask Meghan if she feels differently about the kneeling.

Also, this is the first week I'm actually watching the show since Trudeau's daily briefings starting, but do they all take turns to talk now without any rebuttals or counter-arguments? It seems like an easier way for everyone to say their piece without anyone being called out.

Another day of Meghan bringing up Ilhan again. The thing is tons of people have been talking about defunding the police, including Kamala Harris, so why she feels the need to bring up Ilhan each and every time is such a weird flex to have.

To act like Meghan for a moment, *clears throat* the optics of Meghan bringing up a black woman to criticize when the topic is about police brutality on black and brown communities seems like something people would use against her.

[bannana]

2 minutes ago, MeThinkMeNot said:

Damn you Whoopi! We were finally going to hear Meghan try to explain away her Colin K hate and instead of coming back and asking her that question, they change the topic so she can talk about something else. Sunny's face during that part was funny, but I wanted someone to ask Meghan if she feels differently about the kneeling.

I have already deleted the ep, but I thought that MeAgain skirted the Colin K question in her reply?  And said something generic and pre-scripted about peaceful protest?

[ifionlyknew]

25 minutes ago, bannana said:

I have already deleted the ep, but I thought that MeAgain skirted the Colin K question in her reply?  And said something generic and pre-scripted about peaceful protest?

Meghan is in favor of peaceful protests except when she is not.

[MeThinkMeNot]

22 minutes ago, bannana said:

I have already deleted the ep, but I thought that MeAgain skirted the Colin K question in her reply?  And said something generic and pre-scripted about peaceful protest?

Instead of giving Meghan the same question as before, she asked about the optics of the Dems kneeling.

 

[RealHousewife]

49 minutes ago, MeThinkMeNot said:

Damn you Whoopi! We were finally going to hear Meghan try to explain away her Colin K hate and instead of coming back and asking her that question, they change the topic so she can talk about something else. Sunny's face during that part was funny, but I wanted someone to ask Meghan if she feels differently about the kneeling.

I wanted this too, but I wonder if they did that deliberately so we didn't get an ugly, tense episode? I'd love it if Meghan said she's evolved on this issue and agrees about Colin K deserving an apology (to begin with). 

I was really looking forward to the return of the show with what's been going on in the US, but what I was literally thinking as I started yesterday's show was "please don't be an insensitive asshole Meghan. Please don't be an insensitive asshole Meghan. Now's not the time to be super concerned with what your party thinks, making this about the military or your dad somehow." I can't even watch the George Floyd footage without crying no matter how many times it's shown on the news, and it breaks my heart he's one of so many. I have little patience for anyone who wants to downplay what's going on and make it about something else or show more passion about another issue, especially when said person has a huge platform and could be doing a lot of good with it. 

[lusinia]

But some people saying "defund the police" do want to abolish the police.  It's not only people on the other side who want people to interpret it that way.  Being open to interpretation is the problem with that slogan.

If you're running for office and you hire Meghan to advise you, you're probably gonna lose no matter what.  (Is she looking for a job?)

Again with Ilhan Omar.  Meghan is such a one-trick pony.  Maybe on the channel she's watching they're talking about what the congresswoman said, but it's not being covered at all in the msm.

So, two days in a row Meghan quotes the same remarks from both Omar amd the Minneapolis city councilwoman.  I guess she felt she didn't rile up enough people yesterday and needed to try again.  Or she's officially run out of talking points.

Well, Whoopie really shouldn't be speaking for Rep. Omar and putting words in her mouth.  And there have been a number of people on tv from "the police side" who have said things need to change.

Did Meghan miss the point of Whoopie's question about the members of Congress taking a knee, or did she just choose to ignore it?  It certainly seemed like she was purposely skipped over during the Colin Kaepernick discussion earlier, and she didn't seem to mind.

Edited June 10, 2020 by lusinia

[TheGreenKnight]

I enjoyed today’s show surprisingly. I guess because hot topics felt like they were directly in response to what McCain has been getting raked over the coals for the past two days (1 - Not even knowing what she was asking Kamala Harris, and 2 - Her supposedly being in support of peaceful protest while having railed against Colin K). Of course she never had to answer for herself and dodged it when it was her turn because she’s a cowardly little wuss like that, but it was still fun for me! Her response that “If you’re explaining, you’re losing” just makes it very clear to all that truth and right don’t have a thing to do with anything when it comes to her. Lies and smears are her bread and butter.

Also loved seeing Kamala Harris yesterday and I’m with Sunny on her VP questioning. She ‘splained “Defund the Police” so well, I was kind of surprised she did it so succinctly even as someone who’s always liked her. And I was glad Joy didn’t try to give her own interpretation when Whoopi asked her afterwards, since Sunny did it perfectly.

[tinkerbell]

my take on today's show:

Meghan talks about the "defund the police"  controversy only in terms of the "optics" or how it will affect the election.  How about, first, addressing the reasons?  Sunny gave some good information, but Meghan can only see one issue - re-election of trump. Never gives her opinion on the police. 

Sunny, in discussing the kneeling during the anthem, was throwing shade at Meghan, saying it was SHAMEFUL that "some people"  saw kneeling as disrespecting the flag.  (gee, anyone we know?)  Whoopi promises that we'll come back and hear from Meghan about the topic.  But, after the commercials, Meghan is asked about the democrats "taking a knee"   - and answers by talking about Hong Kong, then about the "right to protest AND the right to criticize protesting" as being so important, but never addresses the question.  Then she makes the ridiculous statement that she has been a "Strong proponent" of peaceful protest (bullshit!)  and how we are so much better than fascist countries.  But never says if she supported athletes or democrats kneeling. 

Then talking about the "bunker controversy" Meghan is asked her opinion, Meghan says she wants to hear what Chris Wallace has to say.  she never answers the question.

THREE  Hot topics, each time Meghan is asked her opinion, and each time she dances around it, changes the subject, deflects.  She refuses to actually say what she thinks. It's the optics, or we're a great country, or let's see what someone else has to say.  Meghan is so afraid to go against her party's view, but also afraid to endorse it.  

Meghan is one of those people who is always right, even when she doesn't say her opinion.   The person who says "I told you so," no matter what the outcome.  Whoever wins the November election, Meghan will crow about how she predicted it.  

 

[heysmilinstrange]

5 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I enjoyed today’s show surprisingly. I guess because hot topics felt like they were directly in response to what McCain has been getting raked over the coals for the past two days (1 - Not even knowing what she was asking Kamala Harris, and 2 - Her supposedly being in support of peaceful protest while having railed against Colin K). Of course she never had to answer for herself and dodged it when it was her turn because she’s a cowardly little wuss like that, but it was still fun for me! Her response that “If you’re explaining, you’re losing” just makes it very clear to all that truth and right don’t have a thing to do with anything when it comes to her. Lies and smears are her bread and butter.

Also loved seeing Kamala Harris yesterday and I’m with Sunny on her VP questioning. She ‘splained “Defund the Police” so well, I was kind of surprised she did it so succinctly even as someone who’s always liked her. And I was glad Joy didn’t try to give her own interpretation when Whoopi asked her afterwards, since Sunny did it perfectly.

Reminds me of when she said politics is all about slogans. GIRL, WHAT? It's about people's lives.

Edited June 10, 2020 by heysmilinstrange

[bannana]

8 hours ago, MeThinkMeNot said:

Instead of giving Meghan the same question as before, she asked about the optics of the Dems kneeling.

Oh, thank you for that. I probably didn't catch the clip they showed and just heard the question from Whoopi.  MeAgain deflected, though. 

[bannana]

 

[RealHousewife]

@TheGreenKnight I’m a big Sunny fan too, but I agree that she was especially awesome today. She has the intelligence and education to be the person Meghan so badly wants to be. You know Sunny could do gotcha questions all day and not embarrass herself the way Meghan does. She’s a wicked smart attorney who could annihilate Meghan, especially with the current topics they’re discussing. But she’s too kind and polite to throw her brains into everyone’s face and completely embarrass her cohosts. She calmly and clearly explains everything so viewers actually learn something. She doesn’t talk down to anyone but understands that most of us aren’t politicians or lawyers. Many people don’t have enough time to keep up with all the news. Some of us watch/read a lot of news but still have a hard time getting basic, unbiased information. I feel smarter after listening to Sunny. 

In stark contrast...

What’s funny is that lawyers are known to like to argue, but that’s truly Meghan’s thing. She gets off on it. She enjoys arguing about politics more than she likes trying to find solutions to the very troubling problems in this country. Why can’t Meghan talk about what can be done so we don’t see more senseless deaths? Why’s she not more ticked off? She literally pouts and scowls over everything. Do people need to be loved ones and/or military for her to care? Meghan thinks everyone needs to listen to her more than the others and to play old clips when her predictions come true. Should we play old clips about what she said about peaceful protests? As much of a pundit as she fancies herself, I don’t listen to her and learn. I just get frustrated by her narcissism and making everything political.

Edited June 10, 2020 by RealHousewife

[blondiec0332]

10 hours ago, lusinia said:

Again with Ilhan Omar.  Meghan is such a one-trick pony.  Maybe on the channel she's watching they're talking about what the congresswoman said, but it's not being covered at all in the msm.

Meghan acts like Omar is the face of the Democratic party.  She isn't.  But Meghan wants everyone to think she is and what she says is how all Democrats feel.  

8 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

Meghan talks about the "defund the police"  controversy only in terms of the "optics" or how it will affect the election.  How about, first, addressing the reasons?  Sunny gave some good information, but Meghan can only see one issue - re-election of trump. Never gives her opinion on the police. 

That is how Meghan views everything. How will this affect my team? Can we win with this or is this going to cause us to lose? It's all about strategy and spin.  

8 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

THREE  Hot topics, each time Meghan is asked her opinion, and each time she dances around it, changes the subject, deflects.  She refuses to actually say what she thinks. It's the optics, or we're a great country, or let's see what someone else has to say.  Meghan is so afraid to go against her party's view, but also afraid to endorse it.  

She has painted herself into a corner. If she condemns what is going on she will be an outcast in her own party (but honestly her party doesn't like her anyways). If she speaks out against what is happening she gets demolished on Twitter.   I think she thought she could  coast by in life by simply being a famous daughter.  She doesn't have the strength or character to form her own identity and beliefs.  Any time she does pick a side and it gets too hot she tries to walk it back.  And then she gets heat for that and she waffles again.  So now she just says a whole bunch of nothing. 

[Tosia]

9 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

my take on today's show:

Meghan talks about the "defund the police"  controversy only in terms of the "optics" or how it will affect the election.  How about, first, addressing the reasons?  Sunny gave some good information, but Meghan can only see one issue - re-election of trump. Never gives her opinion on the police. 

Sunny, in discussing the kneeling during the anthem, was throwing shade at Meghan, saying it was SHAMEFUL that "some people"  saw kneeling as disrespecting the flag.  (gee, anyone we know?)  Whoopi promises that we'll come back and hear from Meghan about the topic.  But, after the commercials, Meghan is asked about the democrats "taking a knee"   - and answers by talking about Hong Kong, then about the "right to protest AND the right to criticize protesting" as being so important, but never addresses the question.  Then she makes the ridiculous statement that she has been a "Strong proponent" of peaceful protest (bullshit!)  and how we are so much better than fascist countries.  But never says if she supported athletes or democrats kneeling. 

Then talking about the "bunker controversy" Meghan is asked her opinion, Meghan says she wants to hear what Chris Wallace has to say.  she never answers the question.

THREE  Hot topics, each time Meghan is asked her opinion, and each time she dances around it, changes the subject, deflects.  She refuses to actually say what she thinks. It's the optics, or we're a great country, or let's see what someone else has to say.  Meghan is so afraid to go against her party's view, but also afraid to endorse it.  

Meghan is one of those people who is always right, even when she doesn't say her opinion.   The person who says "I told you so," no matter what the outcome.  Whoever wins the November election, Meghan will crow about how she predicted it.  

 

So perfectly accurate, tinkerbell and blondie0332!!!!!!!

Sounds to me like someone was not at all prepared to discuss those topics.

Heh heh. 

What a waste of a cohost spot to a " bunch  of nothing"  as blondieC0332 said. 

Save us,  Ana!!!!!!@

Edited June 10, 2020 by Tosia

[tinkerbell]

5 hours ago, bannana said:

 

Are we going to hear that HBO is "censoring" the movie? Discussed in terms of "cancel culture?"

HBO is deciding to no longer feature a movie that romanticizes slavery and the Confederacy.  A movie where a black actress won an academy award, but couldn't sit with other nominees because of her race. HBO decides to take it off their platform, yeah, I can see that. Disney stopped all distribution of "Song of the South" long ago. 

Maybe we can move on. (I never understood the popularity of GWTW anyway)

[lusinia]

34 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

(I never understood the popularity of GWTW anyway)

I'm so glad to see someone else feels the same way I do about it.  GWTW is always held up as one of the greatest movies ever, but other than it's length, I never thought there was anything extraordinary about it.  And I like old movies.

 

[Haleth]

1 hour ago, tinkerbell said:

Are we going to hear that HBO is "censoring" the movie? Discussed in terms of "cancel culture?"

HBO is deciding to no longer feature a movie that romanticizes slavery and the Confederacy.  A movie where a black actress won an academy award, but couldn't sit with other nominees because of her race. HBO decides to take it off their platform, yeah, I can see that. Disney stopped all distribution of "Song of the South" long ago. 

Maybe we can move on. (I never understood the popularity of GWTW anyway)

And it glorifies the KKK. Is that ok with you, Meg?

Maybe she’ll be distracted by discussion of the casinos reopening in LV.

Uh, no, Meg. If there is no spike it doesn’t mean we were quarantined too long. It means we did the right thing. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Haleth

[lusinia]

Aw, damn.  They actually listened to Meghan's pitch.  It's a waste of a segment.  The movie is not being banned.  I found this in Vanity Fair -

Quote

The film will not go away forever, though. It will return with new material framing its shortcomings in historical context.

“Gone With The Wind is a product of its time and depicts some of the ethnic and racial prejudices that have, unfortunately, been commonplace in American society," HBO Max said in a statement. "These racist depictions were wrong then and are wrong today, and we felt that to keep this title up without an explanation and a denouncement of those depictions would be irresponsible. These depictions are certainly counter to WarnerMedia’s values."

But leave it to Meghan to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Good for everybody else for doing their research.

Oh, well.  That explains it.  Megyn Kelly was tweeting about it.  The woman who insisted both Jesus and Santa were white.

Edited June 10, 2020 by lusinia

[2JEWELL]

1 minute ago, lusinia said:

Aw, damn.  They actually listened to Meghan's pitch.  It's a waste of a segment.  The movie is not being banned.  I found this in Vanity Fair -

But leave it to Meghan to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Did they?  Or was this already happening and Megaphone taking credit?

[Haleth]

Ha!  Sunny just shot down the relevance of the issue. 

[2JEWELL]

Me Me Me- “My fault we are talking about this.  I should apologize for being the reason we are talking about this”.  Is this the first time they’ve ever swung at a pitch from her?   Omg- she is so immature and insufferable. 

[Bronzedog]

I'm really concerned that Meghan is going to suffocate herself with her head so far up Whoopie's ass.  Think about the baby, Meghan!

[blondiec0332]

1 hour ago, tinkerbell said:

Maybe we can move on. (I never understood the popularity of GWTW anyway)

 

47 minutes ago, lusinia said:

I'm so glad to see someone else feels the same way I do about it.  GWTW is always held up as one of the greatest movies ever, but other than it's length, I never thought there was anything extraordinary about it.  And I like old movies.

I never liked it. I watched it once and thought this is what people rave about?

10 minutes ago, lusinia said:

Aw, damn.  They actually listened to Meghan's pitch.  It's a waste of a segment.  The movie is not being banned.  I found this in Vanity Fair -

But leave it to Meghan to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Good for everybody else for doing their research.

Oh, well.  That explains it.  Meghan Kelly was tweeting about it.

I think any movie that glorifies slavery should have historical context attached to it.  It's one thing to show history as it happened. It is quite another to make it seem like the good ole days.

[MeThinkMeNot]

Meghan really isn't saying much while speaking a lot.

Also, Sunny still needs to ask if Biden will get a Black Woman VP.

[Haleth]

I think Meg met her match re fast talking. Symone Sanders speaks even faster.

Gah, again with the woman of color VP question from Sunny. 

[pachebo]

I happen to love Chris Wallace and he is right that not every Fox person is a Carlson or a Hannity or a Pirro (eeeeek!!!)

Also, Meghan dear, it's "TENETS" not "TENANTS" , but so much from a "pundint". No wonder she could never be an "independit".

[Bronzedog]

5 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I think Meg met her match re fast talking. Symone Sanders speaks even faster.

Gah, again with the woman of color VP question from Sunny. 

I like Sunny, I really do, but, she's like a dog with a bone.  First it was reparations and now a black VP.  To quote your EGOT winning cohost, "we'll know when we know," Sunny.

[Vanderboom]

15 minutes ago, pachebo said:

I happen to love Chris Wallace and he is right that not every Fox person is a Carlson or a Hannity or a Pirro (eeeeek!!!)

Also, Meghan dear, it's "TENETS" not "TENANTS" , but so much from a "pundint". No wonder she could never be an "independit".

My inner petty self was not just amused that Gov. Cuomo interrupted The View,  but that he also used "crises" correctly.

[deirdra]

59 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

I think any movie that glorifies slavery should have historical context attached to it.  It's one thing to show history as it happened. It is quite another to make it seem like the good ole days.

It also portrayed marital rape by a drunk as being romantic.

[blondiec0332]

15 minutes ago, deirdra said:

It also portrayed marital rape by a drunk as being romantic.

That has happened in a lot of movies and TV shows. Luke and Laura from General Hospital probably being the most famous.

[falltime]

Lol lol lol So prepared that Meghun. Her prompter went out while she was reading her questions to Simone so she switched up the question. If she had written the question herself she wouldn't need the prompter.

[bannana]

Oh, this is funny!

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/the-views-sunny-hostin-takes-down-meghan-mccain-and-megyn-kelly-with-single-shot-against-gone-with-the-wind/

[cinsays]

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I'm really concerned that Meghan is going to suffocate herself with her head so far up Whoopie's ass.  Think about the baby, Meghan!

yeah, we have heard about Whoopie's ergot status way too much and Meghan pandering to her today was over the top

[bannana]

Okay, MeAgain said a bunch of weird shit today.  I could not figure out what the hell her point was about Fauci, COVID-19, sheltering in place, and the protests.  She appears to be saying that she now doesn't believe that the shutdown was necessary, but as her example, she cites her friend's in-laws who died  of COVID-19 and how sad it is they couldn't have a funeral because of the restrictions on gatherings.   Does she even hear herself?  She said something about asymptomatic people that made no sense.  And she said that she criticized the spring breakers, but now she's not so sure.  Then Whoopi pointed out that cases are rising.

She was also indulging in hyper-bowl today.  "Breakfast at Tiffany's is viewed as one of the most racist portrayals in all of film history."  "The south was 'wrecked' with slavery and it was one of the most horrific times in all of world history."  And while she is correct that slavery was horrific, I am pretty sure she doesn't know much about it.

[bannana]

These articles about Sunny smacking down MeAgain's topic are really going to burn poor MeAgain.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/sunny-hostin-meghan-mccain-gone-with-the-wind_n_5ee1096ac5b68bd282e5f6d2?ri18n=true

I cannot believe they talked about this non-issue, and neglected to talk about the tweet that everyone in media was talking about, that accused the 75 year old who was pushed by cops and injured, of being Antifa and it being a set-up.  

[Rainyhawk]

15 minutes ago, bannana said:

These articles about Sunny smacking down MeAgain's topic are really going to burn poor MeAgain.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/sunny-hostin-meghan-mccain-gone-with-the-wind_n_5ee1096ac5b68bd282e5f6d2?ri18n=true

I cannot believe they talked about this non-issue, and neglected to talk about the tweet that everyone in media was talking about, that accused the 75 year old who was pushed by cops and injured, of being Antifa and it being a set-up.  

I wonder if sometimes they avoid an issue like this so they don’t unintentionally spread the disinformation?  Let’s face it, many times when they cover these issues they don’t really get to the meat of it nor set the record straight while talking over each other And/or not letting everyone say their piece.  

[blondiec0332]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

Oh, this is funny!

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/the-views-sunny-hostin-takes-down-meghan-mccain-and-megyn-kelly-with-single-shot-against-gone-with-the-wind/

I mean, I guess I should apologize that we’re doing this topic because it was my doing,” McCain said. “I was on Twitter last night, and it was a conversation that’s been trending, and I actually just thought it would be interesting to talk to you, Whoopi [Goldberg], because you’re an Academy Award winner, I believe only the second black Academy Award winner after Hattie McDaniel who won an Oscar, and it’s important to talk about censorship in film and books right now because we need to talk about what’s appropriate and what’s not.”

 

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say she forgot to say the word woman. But maybe she doesn't know the wonderful Sidney Poitier who won his Oscar in 1964.

[Rainyhawk]

MM has no depth of thought.  This virus is new and unique...they are learning about it constantly, so they were extra cautious from the start because...why not.  As they learn more, things change. They learn that it’s not as easy to get from touching a surface, that it doesn’t spread perhaps from asymptomatic people, etc.  how difficult is that for her to understand?  And to not understand that the rates are lower because of the shutdowns, is simply inexcusable.  

[merriebreeze]

Well now, Meghan, that was a big swing and a miss. Good thing Sunny and even Whoopi were on to your attempts to spin this as a censorship issue. Isn't Megyn K pretty much thoroughly discredited in the news/journalism field? You might want to choose a different mentor.

Edited June 10, 2020 by merriebreeze

[lusinia]

I found it odd that Meghan chose to admit to and "apologize" for suggesting the GWTW topic.  The only reason I could come up with for why she wanted to do this is that she didn't want to let her kiss-up to Whoopie from her earlier tweet go to waste, and knew it was unlikely Whoopie would ever see that.    

Edited June 10, 2020 by lusinia

[RealHousewife]

7 hours ago, Rainyhawk said:

MM has no depth of thought.  This virus is new and unique...they are learning about it constantly, so they were extra cautious from the start because...why not.  As they learn more, things change. They learn that it’s not as easy to get from touching a surface, that it doesn’t spread perhaps from asymptomatic people, etc.  how difficult is that for her to understand?  And to not understand that the rates are lower because of the shutdowns, is simply inexcusable.  

Exactly, the experts, smart as they are, can only do so much learning about Covid. I'm a firm believer in better safe than sorry, and I read yesterday we still don't know how many asymptotic people may have continued the spread of the virus. They aren't clear on that yet, but I believe studies showed asymptotic people have and can continue to spread the virus, so everyone should still be careful. Meghan claims to constantly keep up with the news because it's her job, but listening to her is like listening to someone who catches the news now and then thinks out loud. 

And yes, she doesn't seem to get that the rates are lower because of shutdowns, not that this virus was never serious and people weren't able to gather in groups for no reason.

Edited June 11, 2020 by RealHousewife

[Gemma Violet]

8 hours ago, lusinia said:

I'm so glad to see someone else feels the same way I do about it.  GWTW is always held up as one of the greatest movies ever, but other than it's length, I never thought there was anything extraordinary about it.  And I like old movies.

 

I haven't seen today's episode yet, but I'm going to give a plug to GWTW.  I've seen the movie about 50 to 60 times over my life (and read the book three times).  Are there cringe worthy scenes?  Absolutely.  But that doesn't mean it's not a masterpiece, in my opinion.  The script, direction, cast, art direction, musical score, scenic design, etc. deserve all the accolades they received.    And the cringe worthy scenes won't keep me from watching the next time it plays on Turner Classic Movies, although I must say I've kind of gotten tired of it ("I'm so very tired of it all!") since I've seen it so many times.  😄     

Edited June 10, 2020 by Gemma Violet

[gatopretoNYC]

15 hours ago, heysmilinstrange said:

Reminds me of when she said politics is all about slogans. GIRL, WHAT? It's about people's lives.

I was so angry when she said that.

[deirdra]

In addition to Sidney Poitier, James Earl Jones, Paul Winfield, Dexter Gordon & Morgan Freeman all got Oscars before Whoopi.

Hattie McDaniel did a great job of pretending to love life as a house slave, but is that something to celebrate?

Edited June 10, 2020 by deirdra

[heysmilinstrange]

5 hours ago, bannana said:

Okay, MeAgain said a bunch of weird shit today.  I could not figure out what the hell her point was about Fauci, COVID-19, sheltering in place, and the protests.  She appears to be saying that she now doesn't believe that the shutdown was necessary, but as her example, she cites her friend's in-laws who died  of COVID-19 and how sad it is they couldn't have a funeral because of the restrictions on gatherings.   Does she even hear herself?  She said something about asymptomatic people that made no sense.  And she said that she criticized the spring breakers, but now she's not so sure.  Then Whoopi pointed out that cases are rising.

She was also indulging in hyper-bowl today.  "Breakfast at Tiffany's is viewed as one of the most racist portrayals in all of film history."  "The south was 'wrecked' with slavery and it was one of the most horrific times in all of world history."  And while she is correct that slavery was horrific, I am pretty sure she doesn't know much about it.

It was just one bad-faith argument after another from her today. I think she's being worse than usual.

[merriebreeze]

“I did grow up watching ‘Gone With The Wind,’ and I do view it a little differently, and I would like to know what it means for people who are friends of Hattie McDaniel if it’s removed  . . " (Meghan)

Who on this planet believes that Meghan was concerned about the friends of Hattie McDaniel? That was embarrassingly disingenuous.

 

[lusinia]

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

Are there cringe worthy scenes?  Absolutely.  But that doesn't mean it's not a masterpiece, in my opinion. 

Gosh, I have to admit that my initial dislike for the movie, which I first saw when I was 13, wasn't for any noble reason.  I just didn't like the character of Scarlett O'Hara at all, and didn't get the appeal of Clark Gable.  And I'm still not wild about costume dramas made under the Hollywood studio system.             

I don't think it's a bad movie.  I just wouldn't put it on my personal "one of the best" list.  I agree that the things you mentioned are well done.  I actually have a coffee table book called "David O. Selznick's Hollywood" that has a long section about the making of the movie, which is fascinating.   

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Joy asking Simone about Bernie supporters was funny to me, because the reason why all of his supporters haven't jumped on the Biden train is due to Biden's lack of policy. Sunny brings up the VP being a black woman, but Joy I've noticed that Joy keeps bringing up Bernie supporters not supporting Biden as hard as they pushed for Bernie.

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I have never seen GWTW and  I'm doing all right.