S10.E13: Secrets and Lies

[Doublemint]

I don't think Michael's coming from an evil spot, he's damaged and is aware of the problem, but not ready to be a husband - he might be great if he works all this out.

[Straycat80]

1 minute ago, Silver Bells said:

Yep .. to tell the truth, I don’t think any one of the couples will stay for the long haul.  Even Jessica and Austin.  She put him on the spot on the couch.  Not good. When first married, I hardly saw my husband as he worked nights and I worked days.  Jessica is whining already that he has to be on the job more than she thought.  So what?  You can’t have everything.  She wants everything her way.

Jessica is a nurse, she might be working very long hours due to this health crisis, I wonder what Austin would say about that. He probably understands. 

[Ohwell]

I wonder why Brandon doesn't drive?

[Doublemint]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

Jessica is a nurse, she might be working very long hours due to this health crisis, I wonder what Austin would say about that. He probably understands. 

I was thinking this too, you beat me to it!

[Ohwell]

Brandon gives me a Prince vibe.  

[LennieBriscoe]

And now we see why we started with five couples.

[Hangin Out]

4 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

I wonder why Brandon doesn't drive?

DUI ?

[VioletNevermind]

Good Lord, she can’t even let this boy read his poem without hammering him with this “love” crap.  She is beyond tiresome.  It’s one thing to gently tease someone when you’re looking through their corny childhood memorabilia, but she’s acting like a bitch.  Derek can do better. 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Suzy Rhapsody

[endure]

59 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Did he really forge his own offer letter🤦🏾‍♀️. If you're going to be a liar at least take care to remember the details of your lies. 

That's the problem with lying - 'the details'........ and he's no rocket scientist!

Edited March 26, 2020 by endure

[PupCal]

#DEREKDESERVESBETTER

[Empress1]

6 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

I wonder why Brandon doesn't drive?

Did he grow up in a city? My grandmother was a lifelong New Yorker and never learned to drive.

[Straycat80]

Katie is really being a little bitch right now. Jealous over way in the past girlfriends.  Derek, you deserve better. 

[Doublemint]

I hate her.  She is so judgemental and condescending.   Loosen up!! Laugh a little.

[gonecrackers]

Just now, MyTwoCents said:

That girl is done!

👍🤞

[Hangin Out]

Katy is immature and annoying.  Just my opinion of course.

[Ohwell]

1 minute ago, Empress1 said:

Did he grow up in a city? My grandmother was a lifelong New Yorker and never learned to drive.

He said he grew up in DC.  So did I, but I still learned to drive.  It isn't quite like NYC where one assumes that most people don't drive.   

[gladitsover]

30 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

Jessica & Austin, the palate cleansers.

Can't wait to see them on next season's Couples Couch! 

Even better, Shanny and Mallory!

[humbleopinion]

24 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

  She’s hogging up the camera. But no more than usual

Fixed it for you.....

8 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

DUI ?

Absolutely, got his beer ass arrested while operating a moving vehicle...hope it wasn't his beer truck...

Edited March 26, 2020 by humbleopinion

[LennieBriscoe]

Katie has a very perverse thought process. Why is she "uncomfortable"? Why is she annoyed? Why is she all "WTF?"

Why is she actually incredulous to the point of CHALLENGING Derek's saying he wrote the poem as a young kid, and it doesn't mean he has been in love before?

AND WHAT IF HE HAD BEEN, FGS?!

Why does she insist on saying, "Who ARE you?!"

Dump her, Derek. I'm begging you. Don't let Mindy be the only one with guts.

Does Katie not GET that the entire purpose of this visit is to learn more about the other?

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by LennieBriscoe

[endure]

7 minutes ago, MyTwoCents said:

That girl is done!

She better be this time and.......Meka too!

[Empress1]

5 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

He said he grew up in DC.  So did I, but I still learned to drive.  It isn't quite like NYC where one assumes that most people don't drive.   

I grew up in Philly and I learned to drive, but I don’t think it’s weird when people don’t drive (I think because of all my time in NYC, and in general I’m not into cars). Maybe he’s trying to save money by not owning a car.

Katie is really horrible.

Edited March 26, 2020 by Empress1

[Straycat80]

Am I the only one watching the duck walking on the beach behind Jessica and Austin because them reading to each other is so boring? 

[gladitsover]

25 minutes ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Michael is a head-case.

Yes, and it should never be the job of a spouse to "fix" the other person. Work on yourself before you get married!

[Ohwell]

4 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

I grew up in Philly and I learned to drive, but I don’t think it’s weird when people don’t drive (I think because of all my time in NYC, and in general I’m not into cars). Maybe he’s trying to save money by not owning a car.

Katie is really horrible.

Yes but guys usually don't rely on the woman to drive them around.  At least the ones I've known.

Also, I suggested that people in NYC might see things differently.  We ain't NYC, lol!

Edited March 26, 2020 by Ohwell

[gladitsover]

4 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Am I the only one watching the duck walking on the beach behind Jessica and Austin because them reading to each other is so boring? 

Quack

[gonecrackers]

4 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Am I the only one watching the duck walking on the beach behind Jessica and Austin because them reading to each other is so boring? 

I used that segment to moisturize. Will have to rewind later just to see the duck.

[Ohwell]

2 minutes ago, gladitsover said:

Yes, and it should never be the job of a spouse to "fix" the other person. Work on yourself before you get married!

Jessica read that letter so fast my head was spinning.

[endure]

1 hour ago, Koalagirl said:

Mindy should ask for the dog if they get divorced. The dog obviously loves her.

I said 'you can leave the dog', too bad, the dog was way more comfortable with her.

[gladitsover]

Michael's sister knows her brother is a liar. 

[VioletNevermind]

Real talk, Michael needs to do a lot of work on himself with a professional before he even considers getting married again.  I don’t think he’s necessarily a bad guy, but he has to get some help for his issues. 

[Empress1]

Meka is being respectful and not coming straight out and being like, “your brother is a lying-ass liar.” And Michael’s sister knows the deal because she’s caught him “exaggerating” before. This conversation must be somewhat of a relief for Meka (though she still needs to dump Michael and Michael needs therapy).

[VioletNevermind]

I hereby petition for Michael’s sister to replace one of the “experts.”  She has too much common sense for that job. 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Suzy Rhapsody

[gonecrackers]

This is ridiculous, Meka, he's way too messed up for marriage. There's nothing but a world of hurt for anyone married to him until he straightens himself out.

[configdotsys]

I like Jessica and Austin and think they are the only couple that will make it but Jessica needs to shut up with the whining about "my husband not being there." She's a nurse. Nurses get called in unexpectedly and sometimes have very long shifts. He's an IT guy. I've worked in IT for 30+ years and one of the most important things in a marriage is having a supportive spouse.

I can't even count the number of times that I had to cancel something with my husband because something came up and I had to go into work, sometimes for 48-72 hours. When you marry someone with a career, you absorb the responsibilities of that career into the marriage. Police officers, fire fighters, military personnel, IT people, etc. all have jobs that can keep them away from home for extended periods of time. Get over it. Jess seems the type that would say, "It's my job, I have to do this," when it comes to her job, but complain if the show was on the other foot.

Brandon looks so different without a mustache.

I had to FF past Mindy and her friends. She's entirely too spineless for my taste. Even if she puts him out now, watching these past few weeks has just worn me out.

[Ohwell]

Meka missed her calling.  I really think she should have gone into law enforcement, and she'd be brought in when any suspect needed to be questioned.  I guarantee they'd tell the truth just to end the torture and get her to shut the fuck up. 

[Kira53]

 

5 minutes ago, gladitsover said:

Michael's sister knows her brother is a liar. 

Michael sister not only knows he's a liar but she's been making excuses for him his whole life. He has a personality disorder. He's not going to get better and it is ridiculous for her to recommend that Meka put up with this.  He's always having an excuse for why he's not honest. Alternate reality is a bunch of bull; it is gaslighting at its highest.

Edited March 26, 2020 by Kira53

[Adeejay]

Perhaps someone should tell Jessica that you “can’t hurry love”, it must come naturally.  While Austin appears to really like Jessica, it’s clear that something is holding him back.  I can’t help but wonder if he finds her bossy.

It doesn’t matter what Derek says or does, Katie will find a way to make him feel like an idiot.

Michael’s sister described him as “a different character” but where I come from, we call them liars. If I were Meka, I would have been out of there a long time ago.

[ShowFan]

The more I watch Michael the more I realize he isn’t lying. He just has alternative facts. In his reality he is saying the truth. His reality is alternative to ours. That’s why he can’t stop. The dude needs psychiatric help like anyone in that situation. 

[gladitsover]

Just now, Adeejay said:

Perhaps someone should tell Jessica that you “can’t hurry love”, it must come naturally.  While Austin appears to really like Jessica, it’s clear that something is holding him back.  I can’t help but wonder if he finds her bossy.

It doesn’t matter what Derek says or does, Katie will find a way to make him feel like an idiot.

Michael’s sister described him as “a different character” but where I come from, we call them liars. If I were Meka, I would have been out of there a long time ago.

The "issues" between Jessica and Austin are producer-driven. 

I think Katie was shocked that Derek was cooler than her.

[endure]

I'm glad Mindy realized what she needed to learn through this and has become an even better person, she's my favourite woman to ever be on this show.

[Straycat80]

Mindy is having a divorce party, good for her! Hope Vanessa isn’t there, she’s probably on a date with Zack. 

[gladitsover]

Punch the pinata! Where's Zach's face??

[ShowFan]

1 hour ago, LennieBriscoe said:

No to the dog. Unless Taylor wants to sabotage this "re-commitment."

Like the dog is the problem here. 

[VioletNevermind]

Mindy, Zach was never *with* you in the first place.  What, exactly, are you celebrating?

[Ohwell]

2 minutes ago, gladitsover said:

The "issues" between Jessica and Austin are producer-driven. 

I think Katie was shocked that Derek was cooler than her.

Yes!  Her face broke.

[configdotsys]

I was a little confused with the letter. I get an offer letter yearly and it says, "Your pay will be x..." and at the bottom of the letter is a list of benefits that comes with the job. Was Michael suggesting that that letter had more information on it? 

I thought the letter listed a gross salary and then he showed her the net pay on his cell phone. It sounded like Meka recognized right away that there was no way that the offer letter's gross pay, minus typical deductions for taxes and all that stuff resulted in the piddling amount shown on Michael's cell phone.

Is that what happened there?

[endure]

4 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

Meka missed her calling.  I really think she should have gone into law enforcement, and she'd be brought in when any suspect needed to be questioned.  I guarantee they'd tell the truth just to end the torture and get her to shut the fuck up. 

Completely agree I've always considered her one of those really officious people!

[ShowFan]

Mindy’s Asian friend is gorgeous! And smart. And a good friend. She needs more friends like her and to drop that other piece of of trash whatever her name was

[gonecrackers]

Just now, Suzy Rhapsody said:

Mindy, Zach was never *with* you in the first place.  What, exactly, are you celebrating?

Yeah, I agree. He told her early on he wasn't attracted to her, gave her the responsibility to do something about it, then continued to pull away yet she kept at him like a puppy wanting another treat. Sad, really. Hope she did learn from it though.

[LilaFowler]

Mindy is a better person than I. If my experience on this show were anything like hers, I'd be pissed.