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You must have missed the end scene @Daisy, the sexy times continued at the end

So apparently the Hooker is using poison on their victims as I was wondering yesterday. And just in time, Finn’s anti venom just arrived, so Diane may survive after all

I’m starting to like watching Alexis and Finn’s dad working together

I’m glad to see Dex is smart and asks for a lawyer before talking to the police. If you are a suspect, get a lawyer before talking to the police

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8 minutes ago, DanaK said:

So apparently the Hooker is using poison on their victims as I was wondering yesterday. And just in time, Finn’s anti venom just arrived, so Diane may survive after all.

Brando just died a few days ago, if that. How could they tell that quickly what he was poisoned with to have an appropriately effective antivenom?

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I know I'm probably in the minority but I'm TICKED!!! Is Brando really gonna be the only victim of this stupid Hooker?!?!?! So, we're gonna do a serial killer storyline where only one person dies, and that same person could have easily LEFT town instead of being murdered?!?! Really?!

Look, I'm not saying I want Diane dead, but if she doesn't die, what is the point of this stupid Hooker?!?!?! He/She only hooks and kills ONE stinking person. What a waste of time!! 

Cody is obnoxious. I usually mute him but I caught him asking if Mac was stalking him, and it was so presumptuous. Mac has better things to do than stalk you, Cody. Ugh. There is nothing likeable about him. I muted the rest of his conversation w/Britt and Felicia. I don't like Cody. Hook him, already! 

Still love Nava. That tape is gonna cause problems for them. With the pacing of this show, I'm sure those problems will happen in Summer 2023 when Willow is giving birth! 

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13 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Brando just died a few days ago, if that. How could they tell that quickly what he was poisoned with to have an appropriately effective antivenom?

Probably because Finn recognized the poison and of course he’s Super Doctor

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8 minutes ago, lala2 said:

I know I'm probably in the minority but I'm TICKED!!! Is Brando really gonna be the only victim of this stupid Hooker?!?!?! So, we're gonna do a serial killer storyline where only one person dies, and that same person could have easily LEFT town instead of being murdered?!?! Really?!

it makes me wonder if the Brando actor wanted out or something because it is weird. to be honest i am not ticked (per se) but i'd rather Brando than Bearded Wonder every day of the week and twice on Sunday.  and they needed to know about the venom so yeah one had to die to realize there was poison. but now they are ready w/said antidote. 

this storyline though is a waste of time because there were 99999 million things they could have addressed before they did this thing. and usually serial killer storylines is to thin out the canvas. killing off one person is not that.

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25 minutes ago, Daisy said:

it makes me wonder if the Brando actor wanted out or something because it is weird. to be honest i am not ticked (per se) but i'd rather Brando than Bearded Wonder every day of the week and twice on Sunday.  and they needed to know about the venom so yeah one had to die to realize there was poison. but now they are ready w/said antidote. 

this storyline though is a waste of time because there were 99999 million things they could have addressed before they did this thing. and usually serial killer storylines is to thin out the canvas. killing off one person is not that.

Well, the actor said it was a surprise to him so I'm not thinking he wanted out. Honestly, if he's the only death we get, this whole thing will have been pointless, IMO. 

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When Anna and Valentin's love scene started, I was transported back to when Anna and Finn slept together and how she was wearing a very functional pair of pjs that only missed the UK flag on the lapel. With Val, she's in a push-up bra, black negligee and a silky robe. 

Where in the hell was Dex when Diane was getting stabbed? Some bodyguard you have there, Sonny.

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I had a thought about who one of the victims who will die will be and landed on Britt since the actress is leaving the show for PT. 

Carly is back tomorrow and the winds blew Drewfus to Florida. I wish I could FF through this dreck. You'd think that given the circumstances that Drew would want to stick around town and be close to the kid he fought so hard to get back to, but she's not as important as flying to Jacksonville and joining Carly's crusade against an equally obnoxious character. I'll find any excuse to tear into him.

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30 minutes ago, DanaK said:
45 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Brando just died a few days ago, if that. How could they tell that quickly what he was poisoned with to have an appropriately effective antivenom?

Probably because Finn recognized the poison and of course he’s Super Doctor

That's actually what happened.  Portia ran the test and Finn recognized the poison (it's good to be an infectious disease specialist!!) and immediatley ordered the anti-venom because he knows Jordan is incompetent and there would be other victims.  

This whole thing with Cody is beyond stupid.  He's got his panties in a bunch because the chief of detectives wants to ask questions of everyone who was at the scene of a crime.  Somehow that translates into 'i'm being persecuted because i'm new in town'.  And now, because Robert is the DA and is Mac's brother, well now Robert is after him too.  And then his conversation with Felicia where she's practically drawing him a picture of Mac possibly being his father and he's so stupid he can't read between the lines to what she's telling him.  Britt cetainly looked like she understood where Felicia was going, so much as to encourage him to talk to Mac about Dom. Such a moron.  I don't want him to Mac's son.  Mac deserves so much better.  

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1 hour ago, DanaK said:

I’m glad to see Dex is smart and asks for a lawyer before talking to the police. If you are a suspect, get a lawyer before talking to the police

Agreed. Everyone, guilty or innocent should do this. (And yes, John Oliver convinced me.)

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On 9/25/2022 at 10:25 AM, ljr said:

How old are Liz and Finn? How old was his wife?

Age is fluid when you live in PC, but ReHe is 45 and ME is 55 so only 10 years apart.  Liz came to PC in August of 1997 as a 15 year old, even though ReHe was 20 and therefore playing younger.  If Finn and Reiko were in the Marinara Islands as established doctors in 1997, than they likely weren't the relatively young 30 year old that ME actually was in 1997.  Which would mean Finn is more than 10 years older than LIz.  

On 9/25/2022 at 1:39 AM, 30 Helens said:

Was that a picture of Liz and Sarah actress from back in the day?

I read somewhere that it was Becky's real life sister, though not sure about that.  

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1 hour ago, DanaK said:

I’m glad to see Dex is smart and asks for a lawyer before talking to the police. If you are a suspect, get a lawyer before talking to the police

When he said he wanted a lawyer, I was expecting Mac to reply that he was shit out of luck because Diane was on her way to the hospital and there was a fat chance in hell that Sonny was going to call Scott.

Seriously, who is Sonny going to call? I don't remember why Martin is off screen and Alexis has been disbarred.

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2 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

When he said he wanted a lawyer, I was expecting Mac to reply that he was shit out of luck because Diane was on her way to the hospital and there was a fat chance in hell that Sonny was going to call Scott.

Seriously, who is Sonny going to call? I don't remember why Martin is off screen and Alexis has been disbarred.

I’m sure there are a few day playing lawyers around town or close by

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35 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

And then his conversation with Felicia where she's practically drawing him a picture of Mac possibly being his father and he's so stupid he can't read between the lines to what she's telling him.  Britt cetainly looked like she understood where Felicia was going, so much as to encourage him to talk to Mac about Dom. Such a moron.  I don't want him to Mac's son.  Mac deserves so much better.  

what a dope

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

Val and Anna say they'd murder each other to protect their daughters

I was thinking PC people have weird foreplay, but heh! it worked and we got a some love in the afternoon finally!!

Ferrero Rocher 😀  Nik needs to up his chocolate truffle game (although I would never turn down a FR)

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1 minute ago, Blackie said:

Ferrero Rocher 😀  Nik needs to up his chocolate truffle game (although I would never turn down a FR)

I was like... is that a truffle? LOL apparently so. 
 

2 minutes ago, Blackie said:

I was thinking PC people have weird foreplay, but heh! it worked and we got a some love in the afternoon finally!!

yeah like... they nearly kill Johann, lose a shoe, get turned on by murder and get it on. & it still was better than anything Millow does in bed so i'm game.

13 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

When he said he wanted a lawyer, I was expecting Mac to reply that he was shit out of luck because Diane was on her way to the hospital and there was a fat chance in hell that Sonny was going to call Scott.

this killed me. 
Martin left town because Anna threatened him

44 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

This whole thing with Cody is beyond stupid.  He's got his panties in a bunch because the chief of detectives wants to ask questions of everyone who was at the scene of a crime.  Somehow that translates into 'i'm being persecuted because i'm new in town'.  And now, because Robert is the DA and is Mac's brother, well now Robert is after him too.  And then his conversation with Felicia where she's practically drawing him a picture of Mac possibly being his father and he's so stupid he can't read between the lines to what she's telling him.  Britt cetainly looked like she understood where Felicia was going, so much as to encourage him to talk to Mac about Dom. Such a moron.  I don't want him to Mac's son.  Mac deserves so much better.  

this is another case of "Thou Protest Too Much." 

45 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I had a thought about who one of the victims who will die will be and landed on Britt since the actress is leaving the show for PT. 

wait, she is? that is sad. 

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2 minutes ago, Daisy said:

wait, she is? that is sad. 

It was posted in this thread a few weeks ago. But just in case, I'll put it under the spoiler tag.

15 minutes ago, DanaK said:

I’m sure there are a few day playing lawyers around town or close by

Why must you ruin my fun? 

Very well. Scott will probably choke on his bile and get it done. There was a day player lawyer a couple of years ago, with the long black hair. I don't remember the storyline she was a part of, though.

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I liked Brando and there was more that they could do with him later on. If there had to be consequences to the serial killer, why not have him in a coma?

Diane will be okay. Someone has to be Sonny's lawyer and Carly's propper.

Alexis/Gregory are much better when they are doing a Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys adventure than when the show is writing them awkwardly flirting.

What is Cody's problem? Mac is police and there is a strange of murders in now, soon after he got there.  Thinking that he should be above suspicion is Carly levels of arrogance.

26 minutes ago, Blackie said:

Ferrero Rocher 😀  Nik needs to up his chocolate truffle game (although I would never turn down a FR)

FR is one of the unethical chocolate companies, and I don't think that it's even that good tasting. The Cassadine prince should do better. I recommend he try Camino or Peace By Chocolate (so good), or Lindt.

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16 hours ago, lala2 said:

I’m almost positive that’s what the DC sniper did. He wanted to kill his ex-wife but randomly shot other ppl first so her eventual death couldn’t be tied back to him. I think. 

Well, that didn’t work out so well for him, did it? 😉

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I've only seen parts of the show the last few days since I live in southwest Florida and everyone likes to break in for weather news during GH since it airs just after the 2:00 hurricane update.  So . . . they keep talking about getting the antivenin, but has someone determined it was venom on the hook? 'Cause antivenin only works on venom.

Also agree that Nik could've sprung for something a little better -- at least some Godiva, if not some La Madeline au Truffe?

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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

It was posted in this thread a few weeks ago. But just in case, I'll put it under the spoiler tag.

Why must you ruin my fun? 

Very well. Scott will probably choke on his bile and get it done. There was a day player lawyer a couple of years ago, with the long black hair. I don't remember the storyline she was a part of, though.

The one played by an actress with Cerebral Palsy?

27 minutes ago, rur said:

I've only seen parts of the show the last few days since I live in southwest Florida and everyone likes to break in for weather news during GH since it airs just after the 2:00 hurricane update.  So . . . they keep talking about getting the antivenin, but has someone determined it was venom on the hook? 'Cause antivenin only works on venom.

Also agree that Nik could've sprung for something a little better -- at least some Godiva, if not some La Madeline au Truffe?

Yes, Finn apparently determined it was venom; he may have spelled it out in today’s episode

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The actress with cerebral palsy was Maysoon Zayid, who was on in 2019-20. She played Zahra, who represented Shiloh in his attempt to get custody of "Wiley" (Willow's baby, who in reality was dead). She came back later and got Nelle acquitted of one of her crimes.

On the picture of Liz and Sarah: It wasn't on screen for long, but I could tell it wasn't Jennifer Sky, the original Sarah. And I didn't think it was the recast, Sarah Laine (who now apparently bills herself as "Sarah D'Laine"), either. Neither Laine nor Rebecca Herbst looked like that in 2002 when they were playing sisters. So I assumed it was Herbst at about the right age with some real-life relative or friend. Maybe using an image (even a still) of one of the Sarah actresses would have been more complicated.

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"Dik" is doing Nik's thinking again! He leaves a written and video confession to murder with Ava, who is still in serious condition in the hospital. What if Ava suddenly took a turn for the worse? What if they take her out of the room for tests, where is she leaving that stuff?! So dumb. AND he brought her a subpar truffle. I'm surprised she trusted him enough to eat it. I guess he was a bit smart there. Who needs trust falls where you've got trust truffles?!  

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Now that is a love scene.  Finally.  I swear, all the other actors should take notes on how to pull it off.   

I would not be averse to seeing them get all "snugglebunny" a lot more.

Hell, I wish they would bring back couples kissing and having sex and all the stuff.  Just not Millow.

I'm sad that the hooker is targeting Sonny's family.  I truly hoped it was Esme coming back to wreck vengeance upon all.

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8 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Now that is a love scene.  Finally.  I swear, all the other actors should take notes on how to pull it off.   

I think they overdid it on the tanner... They both looked pretty orange. 

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Loved the Anna/Valentin scenes.  I know "I'd kill you for my kid, but otherwise I'd never hurt you" isn't conventionally romantic (ha), but it suits the characters.  And, yeah, the love scene was pretty sexy (nice red undies, Val).  In the words of the great Lizzo "it's about damned time!"

God, Cody is insufferable.  You know he's just going to be more of an ass once he finds out he's Mac's kid.  Can't wait (narrator: she can totally wait).

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I once said I did not care what any DNA test said because there is no way I believe Cody is Dominique's son and I stand by that statement doubly if they are trying to tell me Mac is his father. If this show thinks connecting him to the Scorpios is going to make this slug more likeable they can think again. Apparently, he was so fixated once he found out his birth "mother" was wealthy he never stopped to look beyond the dollar signs and wonder who his father was. Wow, what a guy. Also, I am still mad at him for punching Scotty. Did the show really think introducing that part of Cody's backstory by assaulting a senior citizen was a good idea?  Was that supposed to endear him to me? 

GET YOU HOOK ON, HOOKER, AND KILL CODY!

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I'm watching Friday and today's ep consecutively.

I loved the way Anna manhandled Valentin's face to stop him from sneezing.

Sonny was awfully snippy toward Diane trying to do her job, all because she was mean to him on the stand at Nina's hearing. That's what happens when you make her the family attorney, Sonny. Ugh, he's such a gigantic baby. Good for Diane for pointing out that it was Sonny's idea to testify.

15 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

AND he brought her a subpar truffle.

The divey green grocer around the corner from me sells Ferraro Rocher. I don't like hazelnuts, so it would be a double insult to give me one of those things.

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6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

The divey green grocer around the corner from me sells Ferraro Rocher. I don't like hazelnuts, so it would be a double insult to give me one of those things.

The first place I ever saw them was on the checkout counter next to the lottery tickets at the local convenience store. So I didn't think Nik's gift showed much class (or thought).

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2 hours ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

I'm sad that the hooker is targeting Sonny's family.  I truly hoped it was Esme coming back to wreck vengeance upon all.

I think Sonny is a red herring. Brando wasn’t the original target, Joss was, so I still think it’s Esme. Diane was Trina’s lawyer in the trial and went pretty hard at Esme so she’d definitely be on the list. 

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1 hour ago, Artsda said:

So if Ava, original Joss target Brando because of wrong place, then Diane. Then it would be Esme.  Ryan possible but he would not kill Ava. 

I wish Brando was saved and Diane died instead. 

Was Ava's poisoned when she got hooked? Because that would lead me to think it was Ryan not Esme.

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Both Anna and Ava looked very lovely today.

I must say, I've no idea who the hooker is, best mystery GH has spun up in quite a while. ITA with posters who've said an effective serial killer would be a good way to cull some dead weight from this bloated cast, but the only fatality we've had so far is Brando. And the hooker doesn't seem to be much more effective than Ryan Chamberlain.

Won't miss Diane at all if she expires. The character had run her course quite some time ago, IMO. Although I'll feel a bit sad for Alexis if Diane does die - they had one of the best and longest-lasting friendships on this show since the days of Luke and Robert.

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Guys, this whole Finn's Dead Wife thing had me so confused. I was all, "wait, wasn't Coma Nina Finn's secret wife? That was a whole thing, does he have another secret wife?" I'm too embarrassed to admit how long it took me to remember that that was Silas. Not Finn.

You’re not the only one! I made the same mistake

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11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

God, Cody is insufferable.  You know he's just going to be more of an ass once he finds out he's Mac's kid.  Can't wait (narrator: she can totally wait).

He'll be disappointed and have a fit because Mac isn't rich. 

Cody is the whiniest character we have and that's saying something.

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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

Cody is the whiniest character we have and that's saying something.

And the one no one seems to care about.  Haven't heard a good word about him anywhere on social media.  He's like the one character where all fanbases are iin agreement of.  

They tied him to Dante through some childhood nonsense, that is HEAVILY implying that he saved Dante from some legal trouble.  Which I call shenanigans on, based on what we already know of Dante's backstory. 

Then they tie him to Britt, who as it turns out, KT is leaving so that relationship will be short lived, so pointless.  

Then they retcon Dominique and Mac's backstory to make him her son and maybe possibly Mac's.  While I appreciate Dominique why would I care that this guy is her son?  Many of us have wanted Mac to have a bio kid for years, because he's the best parent on the show, but tying him to this whiny loser is not it.  Be careful what you wish for, I guess.  

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2 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

And the one no one seems to care about.  Haven't heard a good word about him anywhere on social media.  He's like the one character where all fanbases are iin agreement of.  

Cody is the new Peter. It took Peter 3 months to become loathsome. Cody came in pre-programmed.

They launched a hand grenade at the actor. Some lemons just can't be turned into lemonade.

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Cody has calmed down a lot with the bounciness and swagger. Now if he'd only lose some attitude toward the Scorpios, he'd be bearable. I guess it's a good thing his dates with Britt keep going south, though -- not sure when KT's last filming day is, but it must be coming up.

I was afraid Valentine was going to pull "a Julian" on Anna and whirl her around for implied doggy-style, which got old by the time he and Alexis were through for good. But instead, the staging for this was different, but still unusually hot for modern daytime. 

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I found this on People's site:

"The actress will end her role as Dr. Britt Westbourne on General Hospital in November, a part which she first began playing in 2012 and recently won an Emmy Award for earlier this year. There's no word yet on how her character will be written out."

I hope they don't kill her off so that she can come back if the other show gets canceled. We all know SB will be back eventually and I'd like to see him and Britt together again.

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I hope if KT is leaving permanently, they will write a great Huntington's themed swansong for Britt. Better yet, have Cody get killed by the hookster and it being too much for Britt (after just losing Jason) and have her leave town for a while. So bummed KT is leaving, as she was a bright light in a dreary GH world. Having said that, she must be THRILLED to be leaving after being saddled with a lame ass cutsie love story with the most reviled new character since Petah. 

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Curtis is downright hateable! I cannot believe how much they have ruined his character. "Poor thing." Argh!!! How dare he refer to Jordan that way? He is so conceited and arrogant, and the worst part is this crap show would have Jordan take this jerk back in a heartbeat! ARGH!!! And what about your secrets, Mr. Perfect? Has he told Portia he's in cahoots w/Selina? He goes around thinking everyone owes him 100% honesty but he can't even give that to anyone else?!?!! 

I cannot wait until he sees Portia for the liar she is, and I cannot wait until Portia's massive lie blows up in her face. I hate both Curtis and Portia. They are not even a rootable couple! They both suck! lol

Oh, and I loved when Jordan told Portia she didn't need to explain her ex-husband to her! I hope Jordan gets to read Portia for filth tomorrow!!! This show is crap if she doesn't. 

CM is so wasted. Drew is a massive disappointment and a complete waste of space. He is literally just a love interest for Carly. How far Drew has fallen! 

I was only half watching today but I liked the scene of Sasha hugging Nina. It's about time we followed up w/Sasha! Nina should be in charge of her conservatorship. 

I knew Joss was going to see Dex! She is so pathetic. 

Am I the only one not interested in this Dex stuff? Like at all. Just wrap whatever this is up already please. We mention Liz's plot dragging but this Michael revenge plot is dragging too, and it isn't all that interesting! 

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So... where is Baby Jason's lawyer? 
Dante is still questioning him. 
Why is Baby Jason answering him? Dante is an ass saying how baby Jason was at all the scenes. Baby Jason snaps that yeah, I was there working, and  I GAVE FIRST AID TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. Dante legit goes "That's not enough for me., maybe you should call a lawyer"  Dante doesn't look at any of the evidence Baby Jason has to prove he was working (timestamps, everything. Kick a rock Dante. 

Baby Jason calls Sonny. Dante snarks "I thought he was calling for a lawyer." Sonny goes "yah I told him to work." Dante goes "did you tell  him to stand over Dianne with blood on his hands?" SHUT UP, DANTE.

Carly is all "i feel bad that everything is going bad and I could't reach anyoe." yeah because you were too busy yelling at senior citizens about where they wanna keep their dead people. Drewfus is at the hotel (that looks a lot like Blanche Deveraux's room). tired of these people. LMAO. Carly hired a lawyer and lawyer says "well you have no legal standing." Drewfus is like BUT KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE DEAD PEOPLE, CARLY. 

Drewfus is all "i own a media company." (note that this media company has tanked in sales etc, and we've NEVER seen him work to save it but he's going to use his media company to raise hell to stop an injunction...that people voted. where it would make more sense to just... MOVE Dead Mom. scatter her ashes at the beach, or something). 

Drewfus has AVA'S DAUGHTER BLOW LOVES AND KISSES TO CARLY. WHILE AVA IS IN THE HOSPITAL. shut up show. we couldn't even have another visit with Avery to see her mother? 

Trina and Joss take the guys axe throwing. Joss is like I'm so #TeamRory. so much better than Spencer. What a friend, Joss.  Joss still won't tell Cam about her cute meet with Baby Jason and compares it to Cam keeping Spencer's secret so Joss's big shrew mouth wouldn't go after Esme. IT'S NOT THE SAME. #FREECAM!

Joss "I know you can't tell me, Rory who is the suspect, but tell me who the suspect is." 

Trina and Cam have a talk. Trina says she's pissed at Cam for keeping Spencer's secret. Get over yourself, Trina. you've been hanging around Joss too long. Cam is all "you have every right." Again. Spencer did not OWE YOU anything. everyone else believed you. no one else doubted you. now you realized why he kept it secret. Channel Elsa and let it go.  (note that Trina is keeping Joss's secret from Cam. shut up Trina).

Curtis is an ass to Jordan. Jordan has no time for him. Curtis apologizes to Sonny for being an ass to him.  

Curtis and Portia are like "Jordan has tension towards us." YOU THINK? you are acting an ass. Curtis tells Portia that they are super solid and they have no secret. And then says "Poor thing, Jordan thinks just because she was a lying liar,  she thinks everyone lies."  Portia thinks about her lies, but i have to wonder if Curtis realizes HE IS LYING TOO.

Sasha laments she has no more family. Gladys shuts that down. "We were family the moment you married Brando. You're stuck with me." Sasha smiles and says she's glad. the guardianship rears its ugly head though. Nina, Gladys, Sasha figure it out and have a moment.

Portia storms into Jordan's office and goes "How dare you?"

Dante spills the tea on Baby Jason to Joss. We need  Chase back. 
 

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PCPD really needs more cops if they need to call Rory in on his day off to guard Diane. Fine with me though, that axe throwing double date was a cure for insomnia.

Curtis, stop obsessing about whether Jordan still likes you. Get her to pass TJ a note in class.

And Portia, you are on your high horse about Jordan while lying to Curtis. Both of you can see yourself out now.

Why is Drew making up the bed himself rather than someone from the hotel? Where did the second set of sheets come from? And why didn't Carly just order up a cot for him? Like the Ferro Roche chocolate instead of a Godiva truffle in a little gold box, the show is playing to regular people but the Quartermaines and Cassadines aren't regular people. They're very rich and I want to see them act rich (Sullivan's Travels reference).

Maybe it's because I liked Brandon and his relationship with Sasha but juxtaposing Gladys and Sasha talking about Brando's funeral with Carly's entitled Karen over the moving Virginia's grave really cheapens Brando. And it does Carly no favours.

Drewfus is a totally lost cause.

5 minutes ago, lala2 said:

 I was only half watching today but I liked the scene of Sasha hugging Nina. It's about time we followed up w/Sasha! Nina should be in charge of her conservatorship.

Am I the only one not interested in this Dex stuff? Like at all. Just wrap whatever this is up already please. We mention Liz's plot dragging but this Michael revenge plot is dragging too, and it isn't all that interesting!

Yes to Nina being the conservator!

And while Dex is marginally better than Cody, I. Don't. Care.

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12 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Yes to Nina being the conservator!

Can she be? Can someone who had mental issues be one? (because i know we all went "here comes sonnny" but that was my question then too). 

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