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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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20 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't care if Sonny and Rocco have or haven't seen each other, or Sonny has "another side." He's a cop killer. Why that doesn't matter more to Dante is gross. TFGH, of course, but still gross. 

Let's remember this is the same guy who told his superiors and Mac that he accidentally shot himself IN.THE.CHEST while "cleaning" his gun.

Dante truth telling Mooby was all Mulcahey, and so of course, Korte, Frank, Van Etten, and everyone else is undoing all the good things so we can have Mooby as the "hero" 🤢🤢 again.

 

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KittyQ

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It is incredible that two people who aren't firearms experts can conclusively identify a gun that they saw very briefly when Alexis tossed it off a bridge. While it is not the gun that killed Cates, it still seems far from sure that it is the gun that Alexis tossed, especially since it wasn't found by law enforcement in the river but as an anonymous delivery. 

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sunnyface

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On 10/13/2024 at 10:34 AM, Ambrosefolly said:

My point there isn’t anything in Ava’s history that makes her redeemed for what she did to Kate, AJ, and Morgan. She is still an evil character like Sonny and Carly, but unlike someone like Helena Cassadine, the show isn’t willingly to be honest about how immoral they are.

Ava owns what she did.  She isn't breaking the law each day.  Sure Ava has done horrible stuff and is evil but she is a far cry from Sonny who every single day commits crimes.  And the frequency of the crimes should always be noted as it is not a fair comparison - jmo - to equivocate between Ava and Sonny beyond that they both are murderers.  On a shallower note, MW is entertaining to watch and MB seems challenged to spit out his lines and hasn't aged nearly as well as MW.

Still on the barge.  And it is all on MB and the writing surrounding that character.  How is this guy who recently beat an elderly guy in church to a pulp and killed a federal law enforcement officer is treated with anything but revulsion, disgust, and contempt? 

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norahs99

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1 hour ago, sunnyface said:

Ava owns what she did.  She isn't breaking the law each day.  Sure Ava has done horrible stuff and is evil but she is a far cry from Sonny who every single day commits crimes.  And the frequency of the crimes should always be noted as it is not a fair comparison - jmo - to equivocate between Ava and Sonny beyond that they both are murderers.  On a shallower note, MW is entertaining to watch and MB seems challenged to spit out his lines and hasn't aged nearly as well as MW.

Still on the barge.  And it is all on MB and the writing surrounding that character.  How is this guy who recently beat an elderly guy in church to a pulp and killed a federal law enforcement officer is treated with anything but revulsion, disgust, and contempt? 

 

25 minutes ago, jacourt said:

And beat up a police cadet. 
but the person who reported a crime and a person who outed a homophobe are shunned. 

See, THIS is the problem that I have with this show and why I'll NEVER  support Sunny and his enablers. Every character who does 'bad' things on this show pays some type of price for they actions. Except Sonny, who is considered by all the upstanding citizens of Port Chuck to be a good guy' with a 'heart of gold.' He's a criminal and everyone knows it .Makes it difficult for me to care about any transgressions committed by other characters as long as he walks free.  Plus, it's boring!!  There was a brief, shining moment when Mulcahey et. al. came in and it seemed that, at last, Sonny was going to be treated as he so richly deserves. But that quickly changed and now we're back to the same old B.S. 

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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DAMMIT! Again the show was interrupted by a stupid commercial in the middle of Elizabeth telling Terry about Ric and then resumed to the scene with Ric and Curtis and then back to the regular commercial break.

I have the worst luck finding clips, so will have to catch it on Hulu tomorrow.

I will not lie-I was ridiculously happy to see Brad take Portia down a peg. Even if I haven’t been crazy about the character.

The only thing I’m looking forward to watching tomorrow is Laura.

And it’s so mindnumbingly DUMB that everyone thinks that Lulu getting a new liver means that she’ll wake up from her coma-as if THAT’S the reason she’s still in a coma. But of course she’ll wake up with the recast Lulu!

So this makes TWO COPS that Mooby has murdered that we know of. And even if Jagger had gone rogue, your mentor Lieutenant Patrillo(??), who Mooby MURDERED, wasn’t dirty. You remember Dante? The reason you became a cop? And that Mooby told you to your face that “HE DESERVED IT!” even though he didn’t remember the name? But still you’re . .  .conflicted?

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

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Brad: "Here's a copy for you--don't worry, I have a digital backup" - chef's kiss, no notes!  

The only thing that would've made those court room scenes worse is if Carly was also there smugging it up for all to see.  Kudos, with all the sarcasm in the world, to the music director for the extra schmaltzy, afterschool special-esque 'victory' music for Alexis.  Bite me, writers.

Still feels like they're going somewhere with Molly/Dex.  Which might be mildly entertaining to see TJ and Joss lose their shit.

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Mirabelle

Mirabelle

I fully expect Molly and Dex to fall into bed together. 

I don't understand why Terry didn't look at the audit logs to see who accessed Heather's records. That's the very first thing she should have done. As a doctor, Portia, much less the co-Chief of Staff, would know the measures GH has in place to be in compliance with HIPAA. I wish Portia had stolen someone's log in to use - at least I would be able to respect her for thinking of an actual plan. 

And Curtis is just as sleazy as Portia so they are well-matched. Who is he to demand Rick violate attorney-client privilege because Portia has the critical thinking skills of a five-year-old? 

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Ambrosefolly

Ambrosefolly

3 hours ago, sunnyface said:

Ava owns what she did.  She isn't breaking the law each day.  Sure Ava has done horrible stuff and is evil but she is a far cry from Sonny who every single day commits crimes.  And the frequency of the crimes should always be noted as it is not a fair comparison - jmo - to equivocate between Ava and Sonny beyond that they both are murderers.  On a shallower note, MW is entertaining to watch and MB seems challenged to spit out his lines and hasn't aged nearly as well as MW.

Still on the barge.  And it is all on MB and the writing surrounding that character.  How is this guy who recently beat an elderly guy in church to a pulp and killed a federal law enforcement officer is treated with anything but revulsion, disgust, and contempt? 

Then by that metric, Carly is a less evil character than her because she hasn’t murdered anyone, just kidnapping, fraud and accessory to murder. Ava doesn’t own shit. The only good thing with Ava and Sonny sharing a kid is that they are stuck torturing each other because they are both incredibly slimy, so they regularly get out of trouble. And I find Maura West overly mannered. This show is very sad because between our three unrepentant killers, Ava commits the least amount of murderers.

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statsgirl

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1 hour ago, Mirabelle said:

 And Curtis is just as sleazy as Portia so they are well-matched. Who is he to demand Rick violate attorney-client privilege because Portia has the critical thinking skills of a five-year-old? 

That and summoning Ric to his office to account for what he's going to do. Who does Curtis think he is, Michael? Sonny? Curtis and Portia are a couple of well-matched Karens.

Ric told Ava that he wouldn't pursue who changed the cobalt numbers but he needed to subpoena the hospital records to compare them to the result from the other labs since it was based on the hospital numbers that Heather's case was squashed. No wonder the hospital lawyer was concerned -- it affects not only the hospital's reputation but also it's accreditation. Portia really is a fool.

Good for Brad. I was surprised that all he wanted to was keep his job -- Iwould nave asked for more.

6 hours ago, KittyQ said:

IRL, the help and advice Curtis would be giving Portia is how to get her resume up to date and practice answering questions about why she changed official lab results when she looks for a new job.

A new job doing something else because if it comes out, she would lose her medical license.

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ciarra

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59 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

A new job doing something else because if it comes out, she would lose her medical license.

Portia stole medication to wake up Oz Haggerty.  Tracking meds is another thing that GH doesn't do well.

Also from GH Wiki, "Falsified Jordan Ashford's medical records to help her deceive Cyrus Renault [Nov 2020]".

 

 

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NotMySekrit2Tell

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On 10/12/2024 at 8:45 AM, sashabear21 said:

Are they trying to set Cody up on man dates to get him a friend? He suddenly seemed to be everyone’s favorite sob sister. 

I think he's Frank's author insertion character/Mary Sue or something. He just goes from place to place being the "cool guy" who warmly chats with everybody, winning the hearts of women of all ages, cute little kids, and horsies alike, while making no impact on storylines and having no good reason for still being around. After two and a half years, it's like we're still getting "introduced" to him.

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

14 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

I wish Portia had stolen someone's log in to use - at least I would be able to respect her for thinking of an actual plan. 

Portia is the worst on so many levels. It's so stupid she didn't think that someone might look at the logins and figure out she changed the test results. Her continued bleating that it's all for Trina rings very hollow to me. 

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

And Alexis thanking [Sonny] for what he was about to do for her???

That was pathetic of Alexis. But it's all to save Kristina, the delicate hothouse flower, from having a breakdown. Spare me. I'm so sick of this story.

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GHScorpiosRule

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15 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Her continued bleating that it's all for Trina rings very hollow to me. 

Same. From what little I can recall, Heather was killing all those she thought "wronged" Esme. I don't ever recall her targeting or threatening to kill Trina.

So all this "I did IT to PROTECT TRINAAA!" is just, as you stated, hollow, and for me, doesn't ring true. Unless I missed something? Not that I care. I just want this stupid plot to end. Clearly Heather isn't going anywhere, since the change in the writing team undid her acceptance to spend the rest of her life in prison, telling Laura to let it go, etc.

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2 hours ago, NotMySekrit2Tell said:

Sasha/Sofia M. had the 6th anniversary of her first appearance last month. She's had more drama and storyline than Cody, but it still feels like we ought to know her better after six years.

I started to say it's because they haven't tied her to any existing families yet but then they tied Cody to Mac and all it got him was a brunch. 

They don't really need to tie her to anyone but if/when they do, my vote is for Cyrus. Cyrus because it's creepier but Martin would be okay too.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

23 minutes ago, tessaray said:

They don't really need to tie her to anyone but if/when they do, my vote is for Cyrus. Cyrus because it's creepier but Martin would be okay too.

Tying Sasha to either Cyrus or Martin would make her Laura's family too. But wasn't Sasha sleeping with Cyrus at some point? She was at least dating him when he was giving her those drugs.

tessaray

tessaray

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

From what little I can recall, Heather was killing all those she thought "wronged" Esme. I don't ever recall her targeting or threatening to kill Trina.

Trina took Spencer away from Esme - all the stuff Esme did was to get back at Trina. Trina was definitely a potential target. 

Though I don't remember why she killed Brando. Did he see something? 

1 minute ago, YaddaYadda said:

Tying Sasha to either Cyrus or Martin would make her Laura's family too. But wasn't Sasha sleeping with Cyrus at some point? She was at least dating him when he was giving her those drugs.

I had just gotten off the barge so I may have missed something but wasn't Cyrus about to force her into sleeping with him when she overdosed? That's why I said it was creepy. 

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YaddaYadda

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

That was pathetic of Alexis. But it's all to save Kristina, the delicate hothouse flower, from having a breakdown. Spare me. I'm so sick of this story.

Alexis should've told him to get bent. And Kristina is a whole new character since KaMa took over the role. 

 

19 minutes ago, tessaray said:

I had just gotten off the barge so I may have missed something but wasn't Cyrus about to force her into sleeping with him when she overdosed? That's why I said it was creepy. 

I honestly don't remember. I don't remember most things from this show. Better that way.

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GHScorpiosRule

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29 minutes ago, tessaray said:

Trina took Spencer away from Esme - all the stuff Esme did was to get back at Trina. Trina was definitely a potential target. 

Though I don't remember why she killed Brando. Did he see something? 

Ah, okay.

I was pretty much on the barge and fast forwarding, so I don't remember how it was that Brando ended up one of her victims. Did he witness her killing someone else? I know Britt died trying to save Joss.

But Portia is acting as if Heather has threatened to go after Trina if she's freed, when Heather has done no such thing. And since it's been proven that the cobalt poisoning was the reason for her serial killing spree, it's less likely she will target Trina. All Heather has talked about is getting Ace. Not that I think that will happen, but that's what she's been talking about. Right now. The hacks could change their minds as is their wont.

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ciarra

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GH Wiki  (why Heather killed Brando)

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After Dex left Charlie’s Pub, Josslyn followed him into the alley since he forgot his sunglasses. Brando said he had to check on something, so Sasha told him to hurry back and offered a kiss.

The hook-toting villain stalked Josslyn before Brando appeared. As rain poured down on a shocked Brando, the mysterious baddie raised the hook and plunged it toward him.

 

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

8 minutes ago, ciarra said:

The hook-toting villain stalked Josslyn before Brando appeared. As rain poured down on a shocked Brando, the mysterious baddie raised the hook and plunged it toward him.

Heather should stay in prison just because she whiffed on Joss twice.

They're going to kill off Sam in the most anti-climactic way. She probably dies on the operating table. This show is beyond irredeemable.

Speaking of irredeemable, have a tall glass of STFU, Pod!Drew, and go away!

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

Why isn't Portia going after Cyrus, imo, a bigger threat to Trina because he's out walking around?

Excellent question. Cyrus held Portia and Trina hostage at gunpoint and then shot Curtis. She should be losing her mind over him walking around free, like today in the hospital.  I just can't with Cyrus' righteous indignation toward Martin and acting like he's been this devoted brother to Laura.

But anyway, we ALL called it that Sam is a match for Lulu - just as Isaiah and Elizabeth get to work on Lulu in code blue and Dante's crying over her. It looks like Isaiah is going to be Elizabeth's friend/colleague like Patrick used to be. Lucky's being a jerk again by not letting either of them know where he is after he was last seen in the chapel.

The BLQ-Willow scene is the first time Willow has had a scene that's not about Michael or Drew in ... years? I was pleasantly surprised that the Show writers actually remembered that Willow used to be a teacher. 

Tracy's so focused on Violet because she cares so much about Finn and in memory of Gregory, Olivia. It's almost funny that Olivia thinks of herself as the one keeping the Q family together. Spending so much time with Carly has really rubbed off on her.  I feel sorry for Tracy that she genuinely thinks of that mooch Luke as the love of her life. 

I don't understand why Sam would think Terri calling her is about Kristina. 

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sunnyface

sunnyface

18 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Then by that metric, Carly is a less evil character than her because she hasn’t murdered anyone, just kidnapping, fraud and accessory to murder. Ava doesn’t own shit.

Frequency matters.  Carly is an enabler and continually committing crimes/felons with impunity. She is a disgusting character and the only reason that I didn't mention her is because LW turns in a good performance now and again and I am not reliant on close-captioning to figure out what she is trying to spit out. The denizens of Port Charles should be grateful to have Maura West around as most of the time she is in the supplicant mode - and hasn't been permitted to go scorched earth.  Ava has been a repulsive character for the most part. Tracy and Ava would have been wonderful biz partners but since Ava has been written in the criminal world, she should partner up with Ms. Wu. 

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Go Ned!  Unfortunately Drew and Willow aren't really having an affair because I would love to see Drew and Michael both taken down.

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

They're going to kill off Sam in the most anti-climactic way. She probably dies on the operating table. This show is beyond irredeemable.

It seems that way given what Isaiah said about the dangers of transplants. But it would be unethical because it would probably make people more hesitant to offer to be a donor.

56 minutes ago, sunnyface said:

Tracy and Ava would have been wonderful biz partners but since Ava has been written in the criminal world, she should partner up with Ms. Wu. 

That would be fun. Unfortunately just as Ava has been the town pariah, Tracy is the Quartermaine pariah. This show hates strong women who aren't Carly or her family.

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ciarra

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2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

They're going to kill off Sam in the most anti-climactic way. She probably dies on the operating table.

Makes it a little harder to come back from the dead.  Diving and not resurfacing, no body found?  A little more wiggle room.

If only she would refuse to give part of her liver to a comatose patient -- like most other people would.

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StaceyNotStacie

StaceyNotStacie

6 hours ago, NotMySekrit2Tell said:

Sasha/Sofia M. had the 6th anniversary of her first appearance last month. She's had more drama and storyline than Cody, but it still feels like we ought to know her better after six years.

I’d make her Martin’s daughter or even a long lost daughter of Ric. Molly could use a sibling that isn’t a Davis or Cassadine and she seems to have a good relationship with Sonny, which could make the dynamic interesting. 
 

If she hadn’t been involved with Michael, I would have made her a long lost Q. 

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Sake614

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19 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Still feels like their going somewhere with Molly/Dex

It really does. He keeps showing up wherever she is, always easy to lend a hand.  And speaking of Dex, if he keeps blabbing all over town about evidence, he’s not going to last long in law enforcement. Loose lips and all that. In fact, he might be part of the reason Sonny is off the hook for Cates’ murder

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Leave Sasha as she is. She's a peripheral character who doesn't need to have a familial connection. The show loves to give characters family and then never uses them. What has being Mac's son done for Cody? Nothing. What has being Laura's brothers done for Martin and Cyrus? All we hear is the brothers calling her "sister." Big whoop.

That kitchen/eating area in the Q mansion had weird lighting—it was very harsh.

1 hour ago, TVbitch said:

Go Ned! 

Burn that marriage to the ground. The color of Ned's jacket and pants didn't match and it really bugged me.

Finding a donor for Lulu is half the battle; the transplant has to take. 

LOL at the mention of Violet's permanent record. A high school record doesn't really matter once you get into college.

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Maelstrom

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On 10/14/2024 at 1:00 PM, dubbel zout said:

Seriously. I'm also a bit afraid it's going to come back and bite Brad in the ass, and I'd really like for him not to be the GH punching bag.

This, one thousand times this. I'm so damn tired of watching my faves be shit on for the crimes of not being Sonny, Carly, or Jason.

22 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

BITE ME, Show.

Can we make this the thread tagline? It perfectly sums up my feelings.

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Mirabelle

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

 

LOL at the mention of Violet's permanent record. A high school record doesn't really matter once you get into college.

Isn't Violet 8 or 9? Unless she goes on a Michael Myers-esque stabbing spree, nobody is going to care about her actions when she was in elementary school.

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GHScorpiosRule

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Did Sam forget she got tested to see if she could be a match for Lulu? When Teri told her she was a match, Sam looked at her as if she didn’t know what she was talking about. Why not, you know, smile?

Drew is GARBAGE. I really wish that snooty PI could  find evidence of an affair. I have a feeling this will backfire on him. And who THE FUCK do THE SLS and Drew think they are? Ned was running ELQ before their asses were born/teenager. I had to add that last part for Drew since he’s been retconned in as Jason’s twin.

Ned gets NO SUPPORT, which pisses me off.

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Sake614

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It’s a real shame that Drew wasn’t a donor match. Then maybe he could’ve croaked on the operating table and we’d be rid of him. Then again, maybe not since he’d  be even more of a hero. I’d settle for a chandelier or a crane falling on him. Or maybe he can go for a swim and hit his head and drown? Or get kicked in the head by a horse? I’d give the horse a parade if that happened!

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driver18

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It was mentioned elsewhere that it'll be said offscreen that Finn is taking Violet away from PC, we'll get Violet goodbyes (from the Qs, but none for her aunt Elizabeth and cousin Aiden). This will open the door for an empty nest syndrome storyline for Brooklyn. She'll want a baby. Voila, post-Bailey Lou is recreated for her and Chase. Just so brilliant. :rme:

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

3 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Eh. Jake died and his organs were harvested, but he's back and studying art in Spain, far away from the dumpster fire that is Port Charles.

I'm angry and disappointed but not surprised that there's been zero follow-up about Jake after the scene with Jake, Jason and Elizabeth where Jake accepted the money for college. No party to celebrate an awesome accomplishment, or tearful congratulatory/goodbye hug from his mother, or big brother Cam coming home to see him before he leaves. No mention that Grandma Monica is proud of him (assuming she knows). I guess if you're not associated with Carly's adult daughter or running for office, you don't get a party. And how is it that Jason and Lucky have had multiple conversations now but not a word about Jake? I thought Lucky would at least mention Jake, knowing he's been in the house with Elizabeth and Aiden since 2015. 

7 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Did Sam forget she got tested to see if she could be a match for Lulu? When Teri told her she was a match, Sam looked at her as if she didn’t know what she was talking about. Why not, you know, smile?

Eh, Sam's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. This is the same woman who was genuinely surprised that after having Danny, she got pregnant from intimacy with "Jason" (who turned out to be Drew). Did she need a middle school health class refresher on how conception happens? 

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