Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Daisy]

32 minutes ago, VioletMarx said:

JJ actually says in this interview that although he understands if they must, he prefers they not recast as he would like the door open for himself.

"That’s their decision, but obviously, I would prefer that it’s just left open so that I could hopefully come back and do more work there."

https://www.tvinsider.com/1196560/general-hospital-lucky-spencer-recast-jonathan-jackson-leaving/

honestly this is where i am so glad, AMC put their foot down with Eden Riegl. She left the show, and they brought her back a few times, when her schedule/mood allowed, and then they needed Bianca, and she was like no., and she was like oh i'd love to come back on my terms, and they were like no. we love you, and appreciate what you did but we need a constant Binks. kthnbye.

they should flat out do that here. not that i think we need lucky right now, but we don't need whatever we get with JJ flitting in and out. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 minutes ago, Daisy said:

but we don't need whatever we get with JJ flitting in and out. 

Again, this last return was supposed to be long term, but that asshat Frank REFUSED to write for him, with the connections Lucky had on canvas. JJ didn't make any demands. Well except wanting to work with Genie, Becky, Burton, Bernard. But Frank put him in Kristina's orbit instead. And barely utilized his talent and mining the rich history that was RIGHT THERE.

[Cheyanne11]

11 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Again, this last return was supposed to be long term, but that asshat Frank REFUSED to write for him, with the connections Lucky had on canvas. JJ didn't make any demands. Well except wanting to work with Genie, Becky, Burton, Bernard. But Frank put him in Kristina's orbit instead. And barely utilized his talent and mining the rich history that was RIGHT THERE.

She's talking about JJ's comment on the last page saying he hopes they don't recast so the part is open for him to come back.

[DanaK]

Oh, Michael gets full custody of the kids. That didn’t surprise me given we just got a new Michael. What is Drew going to do to change that?

[Cheyanne11]

Just now, DanaK said:

Oh, Michael gets full custody of the kids. That didn’t surprise me given we just got a new Michael. What is Drew going to do to change that?

Oh, Drew is going to go nuclear.

[DanaK]

2 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Oh, Drew is going to go nuclear.

And Willow definitely had a meltdown. Maybe a bit too much overacting from the actress

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

 And I know I'm beating the same drum, but this is mainly him driving this bus.  Willow's agency in all this is shaky, at best, as she is bending to everything Drew says.  Every now and then there's a flicker of doubt in her eyes, but that quickly fades.  

#TeamSendTheKidsToBoardingSchool

It's so odd, seeing him just sort of give a hard or maybe confused look in the direction of the other side of the courtroom while Nina holds sobbing Willow as she collapses. Is CM not even capable of a tear? Zero emotion from Drew in this episode. I was not expecting to hear the judge call her "negligent" and bring up her giving the kids to Drew in a legal document.

"Now that Lucky's out of the picture ..." This bitch almost killed Elizabeth, and now she wants to use her re: Ric to get out of the blackmail mess? I really hope Elizabeth takes daughter and mother down HARD. Poor Laura, missing her son and now trusting Alexis regarding Elizabeth and Martin.

When even Ric looks sad and humble meanwhile Drew just smirks at Nina yelling at him, you know it's really bad.

The only good part was Laura's very obvious love for and concern about Elizabeth and her kids.

 

 

Edited June 12 by Bringonthedrama

[Daisy]

Oh, Michael got full custody of the kids. I am so surprised. who ever saw this coming. it is just like. check notes: every time a Corinthos goes to court to get something they want. 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

27 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

"Now that Lucky's out of the picture ..." This bitch almost killed Elizabeth, and now she wants to use her re: Ric to get out of the blackmail mess? I really hope Elizabeth takes daughter and mother down HARD. Poor Laura, missing her son and now trusting Alexis regarding Elizabeth and Martin.

35 minutes ago, DanaK said:

Oh, Michael gets full custody of the kids. That didn’t surprise me given we just got a new Michael. What is Drew going to do to change that?

 

 

Edited June 12 by GHScorpiosRule

[VioletMarx]

33 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Again, this last return was supposed to be long term, but that asshat Frank REFUSED to write for him, with the connections Lucky had on canvas. JJ didn't make any demands. Well except wanting to work with Genie, Becky, Burton, Bernard. But Frank put him in Kristina's orbit instead. And barely utilized his talent and mining the rich history that was RIGHT THERE.

IA the writing for him was atrocious, but JJ said this was his decision, that the commute between Tennessee and LA was too much for him and his family. 

https://deadline.com/2025/06/jonathan-jackson-reason-leaving-general-hospital-1236429580/

[GHScorpiosRule]

Just now, VioletMarx said:

IA the writing for him was atrocious, but JJ said this was his decision, that the commute between Tennessee and LA was too much for him and his family. 

https://deadline.com/2025/06/jonathan-jackson-reason-leaving-general-hospital-1236429580/

I read that and posted my thoughts in the media thread. 

[dubbel zout]

Michael and Willow have an art collection? I didn't think what's on the refrigerator door qualified as such.

10 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Oh, Michael got full custody of the kids. I am so surprised. who ever saw this coming. it is just like. check notes: every time a Corinthos goes to court to get something they want. 

And the deck is totally stacked against Willow, also no surprise. So tiresome. The only thing I agreed with the judge as a negative on Willow's part was signing over the kids to Drew if she died. But that doesn't mean she should lose her kids. Gah.

Full custody doesn't mean the kids won't ever see Willow. Good grief. That's not how it works.

I so want Cody to tell Ava what's going on and Ava uses that to crush Kristina.

Alexis, stop trying to save your idiot daughter. Let her dangle in the wind!

[Cheyanne11]

3 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

And the deck is totally stacked against Willow, also no surprise. So tiresome. The only thing I agreed with the judge as a negative on Willow's part was signing over the kids to Drew if she died. But that doesn't mean she should lose her kids. Gah.

Full custody doesn't mean the kids won't ever see Willow. Good grief. That's not how it works.

This has got to be to set up something even more crazy for Drew to do, as that's how this story has been written from the start. 

[dubbel zout]

Even if Willow had won custody, I'd expect Drew to do something crazy to keep Michael et al away.

[statsgirl]

I thought that KaMcM did a good job today. I had to look away, it was so painful (as opposed to when I look away because the show is so bad). Is it time for Katelyn's vacation? Because I foresee a stay in Shadybrook.

That said, did anyone expect that Michael would not win? Anyone? If this show is anything, it's consistent that the Corinthos family always wins. (Too bad, as I said earlier it would have been a better story to see them lose. Now Michael gets to play Happy Families with his three kids and his new baby mama, Carly collects another set of kids, and Willow gets tortured. Yawn.)

Nice scene of Nina truth telling to Drew that his decisions were the reason that Willow lost her children. Also good expression on CM's face when Nina begs him to leave Willow alone; no way he is going to agree to that.

I hate Carly and Jason being all sorry for poor Michael, and blaming everything on Drew rather than looking at what they themselves did..

Sonny/Natalia was Zzzzzz.

Just end this Kristina mess of a story. It's not clever and it's certainly not entertaining.

[Daisy]

Okay. Willow has moved the kids 4 different times. So? The amount of times I had to move in six weeks was astronomical. What if they moved because there was an infestation? or there was  like super noisy creepy neighbours? Like people MOVE frequently in a short time span. 

Wiley had to sleep in the same hotel suite AS HIS MOTHER AND UNCLE. like forget the sex for a minute, the kid is six did the Judge expect Wiley to have his own suite?

Despite Michael's catostraphic injury Willow didn't let her children speak to him. like she did? (and again. i dunno i would want to wait to see until he was stable and able to not be AH AH AH the pain before i'd let a six and 2 year old speak to someone in a burn unit. <<-- that is also not NEGLIGENT by the way).

Im not saying that Willow didn't make bad decisions, but are we saying all of those decisions = not having at least partial custody? like seriously? and we're just ignoring that Michael's catastrophic injury happened with his Mob Father?  so tired of this crap. 

that's all i saw from clips so i don't know if there is more. i saw Nina go ballistic on Drew. so that was always fun. 

[dubbel zout]

6 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Despite Michael's catostraphic injury Willow didn't let her children speak to him. l

Nitpick: The judge said that Willow didn't make arrangements for the kids to talk to Michael, which is technically true. Kristina facilitated all of that. Because Michael thought talking to Willow for two seconds would be too awkward. But Willow always let the kids talk to Michael.

This is one of those dumb details—like not pursuing why Willow wasn't able to see Michael in Germany—that stacks the deck against her.

Edited June 12 by dubbel zout

[Daisy]

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Nitpick: The judge said that Willow didn't make arrangements for the kids to talk to Michael, which is technically true. Kristina facilitated all of that. Because Michael thought talking to Willow for two seconds would be too awkward. But Willow always let the kids talk to Michael.

This is one of those dumb details—like not pursuing why Willow wasn't able to see Michael in Germany—that stacks the deck against her.

 

thanks for the correct. but isn't taking her kids to see Kristina being PART of those arrangements? like... im so over it. geeze

[Desperado]

I had to mute the meltdown because the non-verbal language was enough for me. I also moved away from another social media platform because people HATE her character with the strength of a 1000 suns and that’s a lot for a made up character whose scenes you can just skip watching.

I guess where’s heading into another another “woman committed against her will” storyline where Drew will be taking over and Nina will cry over it, and I can’t watch that.

Ava/MW, as always, shown through the ridiculous Cody plot line but he did look quite good with his shorter hair and blue shirt matching his eyes. The stupidity of trusting Kristina in any way though, takes away from the sexy for me.

I’m glad Laura is seen with other people than Sonny - her scenes with Liz were lovely.

I’m multitasking while watching again so that’s all I got.

Edited June 13 by Desperado
Switched words around.

[dubbel zout]

I'm surprised we didn't hear that Willow's neglect of the kids went as far as giving them regular chicken fingers when they wanted ones shaped like dinosaurs. J'accuse!

[Daisy]

Okay I saw Willow begging Michael, and I have to say....Carly and Jason looked actually kind of upset/sympathetic, as did Michael, but then Diane is all "come on we have to goooo." 

I also have to say I liked that Willow called Nina Mommy. that was actually really sweet. 

[statsgirl]

21 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Okay I saw Willow begging Michael, and I have to say....Carly and Jason looked actually kind of upset/sympathetic, as did Michael, but then Diane is all "come on we have to goooo." 

There's a scene later at Carly's house when Carly and Jason are all 'poor Michael, Willow deserves what she got for listening to Drew". 

When the judge talked about Willow moving the kids 4 times, did anyone bring up that one of the moves was because Tracy had kidnapped her children and was refusing to let her have access to them? With saint Sasha's help?

I know that I should be used to how much this show takes sides but it still makes me mad.

[ljr]

The show should have suprised us and gave custody of the kids to Nina. 
willow lets Drew control her and Michael gets burned because of his father’s dangerous mob connections.  What if the mob hurts Michael’s kids?

will Drew dump willow now?

Now that Sasha gave birth to daisy the quatermaines will have to make an extra nursery. 
 

 

[Daisy]

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

There's a scene later at Carly's house when Carly and Jason are all 'poor Michael, Willow deserves what she got for listening to Drew". 

When the judge talked about Willow moving the kids 4 times, did anyone bring up that one of the moves was because Tracy had kidnapped her children and was refusing to let her have access to them? With saint Sasha's help?

I know that I should be used to how much this show takes sides but it still makes me mad.

 

lolol. i am so stupid. like they'd care about anyone else. 
Nope. they did not. 

and the same. like twitter/youtube/reddit is like YES WILLOW LOST WOOOOOHOOO SUCK IT. and i am like... please just stop (and i'm not evne team willow. just..though stop). 
 

[KittenPokerCheater]

The judge should have awarded joint custody.  And mandated psychological counseling for both Willow and Michael. KMcM did a marvelous job today.

I hate that the Carly and her children never lose anything.

SHOW, PLEASE WRITE OF KRISTINA!

[Daisy]

Just now, KittenPokerCheater said:

The judge should have awarded joint custody.  And mandated psychological counseling for both Willow and Michael. KMcM did a marvelous job today.

I hate that the Carly and her children never lose anything.

SHOW, PLEASE WRITE OF KRISTINA!

honestly. that would have been the better option. forcing them to do counciling, and work together. annd force Michael to have her see what Drew really is. but no. per Corinthii Law it has to be all or nothing and they always win. 

[dubbel zout]

21 minutes ago, ljr said:

will Drew dump willow now?

I doubt it, at least he won't dump her immediately. Being with her is how he sticks it to Michael et al.

[JMO]

Alexis needs an adult sounding board, so she can remember that she is a smart, capable woman who should dismiss Kristina's plot out of hand, rather than trying to punch holes in it.  I actually appreciated Kristina at the beginning of the surrogacy story and thought KM handled it well.  I still think the actress is more than capable, but the character has been written into a corner.

Maura West and Josh Kelly ooze chemistry with every one of their scene partners.  I would rather they didn't ooze chemistry between their characters, but they're so good that I could see myself being persuaded.  If they connect, cue Nikolas to show up.

Did I miss the judge saying the kids couldn't see Willow? Feels like a  lot of assumptions being made.

lt also feels like this whole custody thing was written by a different team from the one that wrote the Gio story.  More Gio, less custody, please.

 

[Cheyanne11]

21 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

The judge should have awarded joint custody.

Exactly, but this show hates that option.  

[TVbitch]

The only thing that would make sense is if it turned out Sonny or Jason did bribe or pressure the judge. Cue the Sasha/Carly wrestling match for who gets to play mommy to Michael's kids. 

Alexis is nearly dead to me. What is she doing even entertaining Kristina's latest insanity. What could go wrong?

I thought Willow's breakdown was effective. The actress really went for it, even though she couldn't manage tears. But the high point of the episode, for me, was when Nina quietly screamed "SHUT UP!" at Drew when he tried to interupt her telling him this was his fault. They do still have electricity, but alas, it cannot be salvaged at this point.

[YaddaYadda]

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Will anyone care? It's sort of a "Murder on the Orient Express" situation: The deceased was such a bad person that you can't blame people for stabbing him to death.

I think people will care if Willow is the one who does him in. By people, I mean characters.

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

He was brainwashed/mind-controlled for a while by Victor, I think? He was controlled by some face card and/or a phrase. Was that ever totally resolved?

I don't think so, but the writers keep bringing up how he changed since his sting in prison. So maybe the beating his took gave him a brain tumor, since that's how everything gets resolved on planet soap.

I didn't feel Willow's distress all that much because the acting was so very bad.

Alexis needs to stick her daughter in an attic and leave her there for a very long time. Kristina has learned sweet fuck all and I hope this latest scheme blows up in her face real good. 

[dubbel zout]

10 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I think people will care if Willow is the one who does him in. By people, I mean characters.

I'd think Willow killing Drew would be one of the best ways she could redeem herself in the eyes of Port Charles. So many people hate him.

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I'd think Willow killing Drew would be one of the best ways she could redeem herself in the eyes of Port Charles. So many people hate him.

Yeah, kinda feels like the writers made a HARD left turn away from that 'super couple' designation CM was going on about a few months back.

[statsgirl]

3 hours ago, JMO said:

Did I miss the judge saying the kids couldn't see Willow? Feels like a  lot of assumptions being made.

When did Sonny or Carly ever let the other parent see their child unless forced to? I still remember Ava's desperate attempts to spend time with Avery when Sonny had sole custody. Sonny tried to murder Jax to keep him from Joss.

Edited June 13 by statsgirl

[Cheyanne11]

The judge said visitation would be decided "after the children met with a court ordered psychiatrist" which seems...excessive.

[Sake614]

23 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

The judge said visitation would be decided "after the children met with a court ordered psychiatrist" which seems...excessive.

Oooh I thought she said WILLOW had to see a shrink. Yeah it doesn’t make much sense to have the kids see one. No one was saying they were being abused or had suffered irreparable harm while in Willows care.

[Artsda]

20 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

The judge said visitation would be decided "after the children met with a court ordered psychiatrist" which seems...excessive.

Willow needs the psychiatrist more than the kids.  But I do think it'd just seeing if the kids need supervised visits or not, however after the outburst she doesn't seem stable enough for free reign visits. 

Everything the judge said was everything Nina tried to warm Willow about and Willow refused to listen to anyone but Drew.  So she made her choices and she deserved this. 

Does Willow even remember her mother telling her not to leave and move with the kids, telling her to stay at the gatehouse, telling her not to go with Drew, telling her not to sign papers. All the times Nina wanted compromise. 

 

 

 

[lala2]

5 hours ago, Desperado said:

I also moved away from another social media platform because people HATE her character with the strength of a 1000 suns and that’s a lot for made a up character whose scenes you can just skip watching.

I didn't watch - I was actually watching BTG today - but I haven't opened my Twitter b/c I don't want to see the numbers of ppl celebrating Willow losing. I'm not even a Willow but the hatred for her is just so OTT to me. All she did was cheat. People act like she set Michael on fire and beat her kids. It's just a lot.

As a woman, I hate the double standard at play. Michael's cheating is approved and celebrated but Willow is a whore who deserves death. Umm. . . ok. I just can't w/GH and its blatant favoritism to Michael and the Corinthos clan. All stories involving them are predictable and thus boring. 

I remain only interested in the Gio fallout. That has been good. I'm definitely not interested in Michael and Sasha bonding w/their kids  . . .  I'm sure Michael will have W&A calling Sasha "mommy" by July .  . . and this continued custody story. I know it's not over. lol

Edited June 13 by lala2

[Auntie Velvet]

It does look like Drew was genuinely trying to get Willow full custody via his stupid schemes.

But at the same time if we see via flashbacks that he was intentionally tricking Willow into all those bad decisions, PLUS doing things like bribing the judge to get the kids out of Willow's life so he could have him all to himself -- I wouldn't be surprised by that either.

I thought Willow's scenes were great. 

[KerleyQ]

Ric can absolutely miss me with his whining to Liz about how he's never felt so bad losing a case. Really, Ric?  You feel bad? Hmm, maybe you should have told your client what her boyfriend did to her son. Maybe you should have focused more on what was in your client's best interest than conspiring with Drew behind her back. 

Willow's breakdown was hard to watch. NuMichael did a good job with his reaction shots. He's a far, far better actor than Chad.  

If I was writing this, I'd have Willow lose her shit on Drew whenever he barges into her hospital room. Yelling "you did this! This is your fault!" If she takes any time to realize that all of the shit the judge called her out for was shit Drew talked her into, she should be furious with him and with herself for going along with him. Sadly, we'll probably get some sunken cost fallacy, and she's going to cling to him even harder, because if she admits that she was wrong to be with him and listen to him, then she blew up her marriage and lost her kids for nothing. 

Speaking of things I'd do if I was writing, I want the DA's office to bust Noted Bigot Natalia for running right to Sonny and agreeing to work with him to keep him safe from prosecution. 

More shit I'd write - Cody comes to genuinely like Ava, as a friend, not a romantic interest, and he works with her to bust Kristina for all of her bullshit. I feel like Cody and Ava would be a fun friendship pair. 

I always love Liz and Laura scenes. Sadly, we probably won't actually get to see that family dinner. 

[DanaK]

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

Oooh I thought she said WILLOW had to see a shrink. Yeah it doesn’t make much sense to have the kids see one. No one was saying they were being abused or had suffered irreparable harm while in Willows care.

I initially thought that’s what the judge said too so maybe I just assumed it and missed the “children” part

[Bringonthedrama]

7 hours ago, Daisy said:

 

Im not saying that Willow didn't make bad decisions, but are we saying all of those decisions = not having at least partial custody? like seriously? and we're just ignoring that Michael's catastrophic injury happened with his Mob Father?  so tired of this crap. 

that's all i saw from clips so i don't know if there is more. 

There was more. What seemed particularly egregious to the judge was that Willow broke the law when she signed papers making Drew the children's guardian in the event of her death, without consulting Michael/ignoring his custodial rights as a father. 

It wasn't about the cheating. Willow started screaming at the judge (right after she delivered her decision) that Michael cheated on her with Sasha and had a baby with him, completely ignoring the fact that she cheated on Michael and moved her kids into a new home with her lover.

5 hours ago, JMO said:

Did I miss the judge saying the kids couldn't see Willow? Feels like a  lot of assumptions being made.

The judge said visitation would be decided after the kids met with a psych professional. Willow thinks (thanks to Drew's manipulations and Michael's anger when she insisted Wiley misunderstood whatever he heard) that Michael getting custody means the children are going to be kept away from her, probably indefinitely.

[Daisy]

3 hours ago, lala2 said:

As a woman, I hate the double standard at play. Michael's cheating is approved and celebrated but Willow is a whore who deserves death. Umm. . . ok. I just can't w/GH and its blatant favoritism to Michael and the Corinthos clan. All stories involving them are predictable and thus boring. 

 

in this regards, I don't think it's that. a LOT of people hate drew and because willow left drew (and Michael is "amazing aesome wonderful person" okay there, they hate Willow. the amount of times that i had to say Michael cheated too and people clapped back with well, you know Willow cheated first witht he emotional affair (as if she woke up one morning and said "ya know, i'm having an emotional affair.")  and people justify Michael's because he + sasha were drunk. (which i never buy but aparently this is the big difference)

my whole thing is at the end of the day, Willow fell in love with someone else. that's not a bad thing even though the way they (like the show/characters) make it sound is just so dumb. like HOW COULD YOU. (easily). Michael sucked. 

i will say honestly. I don't mind Drew. He is SCUZZY and like the Evul and everything, but i think it's actually nice to have a soap villian on this show that just sucks, for being sucky. He's not a murder, he's not a mobster  or anything like that he's just a scuzzbucket lol. it's been a long time

[pinkandsparkly13]

Willow's breakdown got to me being a super emotional person. But I didn't see any tears from the actress. F the Carly's and Diane. I've always hated her. The only thing I like about her is her friendship with Alexis. 

And my unpopular opinion(I think lol) I'm not that impressed with this new Michael actor. He is very one note to me so far. He talks the same and looks the same in every scene. He may be better looking than Chad Duell, but I'm not seeing how he is better acting wise. He's boring me. 

[jsbt]

KMM was indeed hard to watch today, in the best way. I've always felt she had more to give than she did for all those boring Sunny Homemaker years, given her insane cult background - there has always been a vicious, nasty edge to Willow's attacks on Nina back during those Sonny/Nina humiliation tour years for Watros. And her toxic romance with Drew and its fallout has easily been the major driving engine and compulsively watchable element on this show for the last year-plus, because it harkens back to classic soapy, sinful stuff like Alan/Monica/Rick/Lesley BITD. We may not like one or all of them as people but it's very well-acted, often well-scripted and it keeps turning. And the very solid Michael recast has helped immensely. We can thank Patrick Mulcahey for setting this in motion, even if I suspect his versions of Drew Q, Nina, etc. would've been more three-dimensional, flawed but rootable. (I will mourn the would-be Drew/Nina love/hate romance for a few more years to come)

Willow should be the show's new young queen bitch, and they definitely shouldn't fire her or CM any time soon AFAIC. They're a big part of what is keeping the show burning forward in the numbers IMO, along with Giovanni Mazza* and Braedyn Bruner's spiky, idiosyncratic Emma. Not any tired old shit with Sonny, Jason, Carly or lame business with Sidwell. Frankly even Kristina feels played out right now. I don't know how they just keep letting her do nutty shit month after month. When is Alexis going to pull the trigger and call for the men in white coats?

* - (I knew Giovanni Mazza had something but I was incredibly impressed with his scenes with Jane Elliot late last month. Very few supposedly neophyte actors are that raw and can keep up with JE that well. I don't know that Scott Clifton could've in his first year in the 2000s.)

5 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Yeah, kinda feels like the writers made a HARD left turn away from that 'super couple' designation CM was going on about a few months back.

The way I remember Cameron's comment, and correct me if I'm wrong, is he was playing devil's advocate in print - he said everyone hated Drew for what he'd done and he got it and was enjoying playing the scheming, etc. but said you never know, the writing could turn a whole other way and make Willow and Drew a big popular couple. I don't think he was ever seriously suggesting 'oh, we're a big new supercouple' or at least I don't remember it that way. I certainly don't think GH has ever actually seriously considered Drew and Willow a root-for couple. It has always been a toxic, sinful soapy complication.

[YaddaYadda]

10 hours ago, lala2 said:

I didn't watch - I was actually watching BTG today - but I haven't opened my Twitter b/c I don't want to see the numbers of ppl celebrating Willow losing. I'm not even a Willow but the hatred for her is just so OTT to me. All she did was cheat. People act like she set Michael on fire and beat her kids. It's just a lot.

If she had cheated on anyone else, it wouldn't have mattered, but she cheated on Michael and that cannot be forgiven. When Willow was cheating on Chase with Michael, the same people roasting her for cheating now had no issue with that because they wanted her with Michael.

Committing sins against the Carlys is a nonstarter in certain corners of this fandom. Although I don't despise that we finally have someone in the role of Michael who can emote. 

[KittenPokerCheater]

Oooh, what it Willow goes all mulitple personality on us (I forget the proper medical term)?  Given her very abusive upbringing (and being assaulted by father-type Shiloh)?

I very much hope I am wrong.

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, Artsda said:

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

The judge said visitation would be decided "after the children met with a court ordered psychiatrist" which seems...excessive.

Willow needs the psychiatrist more than the kids.  But I do think it'd just seeing if the kids need supervised visits or not, however after the outburst she doesn't seem stable enough for free reign visits. 

Willow's outburst was a lot, but under the circumstances, I don't think it means she's unstable. She believed her ultra-manipulative lovah that they'd win custody. She's been betrayed on a lot of fronts here.

10 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Willow's breakdown was hard to watch. NuMichael did a good job with his reaction shots. He's a far, far better actor than Chad.  

CD was burned out for ages, and it showed.

10 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

More shit I'd write - Cody comes to genuinely like Ava, as a friend, not a romantic interest, and he works with her to bust Kristina for all of her bullshit. I feel like Cody and Ava would be a fun friendship pair. 

Same. I hate how Cody is back to being a money-grubbing slime. It didn't work when they did that with Gladys, and it's not working here. 

[sacrebleu]

I hope that Willow realizes that she allowed herself to be manipulated by Drew, but acknowledges Her culpability. I don't want her blaming Drew for the decisions she made. Because she could have said no to the DC trip, and moving in, and designating Drew guardian. 

 If Drew thinks he's losing Willow he absolutely will throw Nina under the bus and reveal their affair, leaving Willow totally alone, which may release her inner 'Nell' 

It's been a while since GH did a DID story ( was Alexis' fake DID for killing Alcazar the last?) And I have my doubts the Willow actress could handle it ..  but that story wouldn't surprise me at all 

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I still want to see Molly with Isaiah, so anything that puts a roadblock to Molly and Cody works for me. Plus, Cody and Ava is the first time that the character has interested me. Besides Ava and Morgan, and Ava and Griffin were two of my favorite pairings for her. I just like Ava and the younger pretty boys. 

And these two actors can not only chem and charisma with each other, they can both act and layer scenes. This can really work! If he starts to get too deep, and then spills, and Ava turns it on Kristina!!! YES!!!