Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[ByaNose]

I agree with Tracy. I never want to hear the word esplanade ever again.
 

For the uninitiated.. Esplanade is defined as a noun:

a long, open, level area, typically beside the sea, along which people may walk for pleasure.

IYKYK!

[GHScorpiosRule]

I knew Drew would try to convince Willow not to go; and that when he saw there was no changing her mind, did a 180, but at the same time, gaslighting her. And then assuming he would be going with her and to make a romantic get away from it?

Doesn't he have a job? Oh, right. He's got minions to do his work for him.

Man, Cujo listing off all the things Willow is and has done? Please. Those were the things SHE DID. It was so laughable.

Even before Mulcahy came and changed things-like Laura cutting off Mooby, she never had this attitude of not caring if people knew she socialized with Mooby. Why she's doubling down, or rather why Korte, Van whatever his name is and Quan, is it? are doing this to her, is beyond my understanding.

Add me to agreeing with Tracy regarding the word "Esplanade" too! I hear that word and think of the car/SUV of the same name. What it means and what the show wants? I think of as "Boardwalk" as in Atlantic City and Fisherman's Wharf.

So stupid of Doyle to make an assignation with an escort at the Metro Court. And Cujo is unaware of it happening again? Hmmm...

Edited April 24 by GHScorpiosRule

[Cheyanne11]

In what world would hearing "If Michael succumbs to his injuries and you become incapacitated, I'll get your kids" be a source of comfort and not set off the loudest alarm?  Oh, Willow, you in danger, girl.

[luna1122again]

13 hours ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

It’s a guy thing,  we generally have an aversion to women who are in relationships with, or sleep with douchebags.

The current version of Drew is an apex douchebag.

He should have contempt for Sasha then, for banging Michael. 

Edited April 24 by luna1122again

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, Artsda said:

Laura hate Sidwell for what was done to her son, but bows at Sonny feet

Laura doesn't share a grandson with Sidwell. I get why she doesn't want to actively go after Sonny or denigrate him, especially in public. Rocco is old enough to start questioning what Sonny does and how he's perceived, but of course the show won't dig into that.

14 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

t must have freaked Drew out that Willow was insisting on going to see Michael even after he tried to manipulate her into not going.  

It must have freaked Drew out that Willow considered talking to Michael in the first place, instead of letting Drew arrange everything for her.

14 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Tracy getting to speak truth about Sonny/Michael/AJ was nice. 

I also liked that she admitted there was no love lost between her and AJ but that didn't mean he deserved what happened to him.

[ciarra]

13 hours ago, ByaNose said:

For the uninitiated.. Esplanade is defined as a noun:

a long, open, level area, typically beside the sea, along which people may walk for pleasure.

I know it from watching PBS, where they broadcast the Boston Pops Fireworks show every 4th of July.

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on July 4, 1929, the first free Esplanade Concert was performed at the specially constructed acoustic shell along the banks of the Charles River.

 

[Perkie]

16 hours ago, ciarra said:

Pretty sure Nu-lulu’s house set is the set they used for Bobbie’s younger days with her family.

It's also where Liz was living when Jake ran out the door and was run over by drunk Luke.  

[dubbel zout]

Lulu can't leave well enough alone, can she? She's the worst.

Well, cut off my legs and call me Shorty! Sonny made it to LA for his surgery. I thought for sure he'd have to be treated in the Dr. Monica Quartermaine Cardiac Surgery Care Center he endowed.

LOL at Cody's "Yeah, fair point" to BL when he didn't want to show his bare chest to her and she said, "Have you seen my husband?" Hee.

We're probably supposed to think that Sonny has never been so vulnerable, but unless the show is keeping a massive secret that MB is leaving, we all know Sonny will survive, even if he has a few bumps along the way. And nothing will change: He'll still be in the mob, we'll still have to hear about [the project that shall not be named], etc. 

Ouch, Sonny didn't think about Jason once.

[KittyQ]

Kristina should have her quote about doing bad things but still being worthy of being loved tattooed on her somewhere that she can read it whenever she decides that someone needs to die because they did a "bad thing". Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, as the saying goes. 

[absnow54]

44 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

LOL at Cody's "Yeah, fair point" to BL when he didn't want to show his bare chest to her and she said, "Have you seen my husband?" Hee.

Cody is such a useless character but he has great natural chemistry with pretty much everyone he interacts with. I wish they’d figure out how to make him interesting. 

Speaking of pointless, why is Donna? She’s completely interchangeable with Avery, and I think even Carly forgets she’s her mother 99.9985% of the time. 

[ljr]

Yes I can’t tell Avery apart from donna

 

[absnow54]

56 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Ouch, Sonny didn't think about Jason once.

lol, I also noticed he only thought about his beloved family members who were already appearing in today’s episode. Avery, Michael, Michael’s spawn, and Morgan aren’t getting any residuals for this one. 

Edited April 24 by absnow54

[JMO]

Glad to finally have gotten that long-awaited conversation between Rocco and Lulu, and for the conversation between Danny and Jason about what it's been like for him.  Only took 6 months.

[KittyQ]

What does the Application for Involuntary Commitment document include? The details of the car crash? You'd think there would have to be some reference to why it is being requested, but maybe the details are presented only in court. 

Either way, cat's out of the bag for Molly. Now we'll see how strong Alexis's family group is.

[Perkie]

1 minute ago, KittyQ said:

What does the Application for Involuntary Commitment document include?

I read what they showed us and Kristina's name wasn't on it, unless it was further down or on the second page.  Not sure if it would have had the details of the car accident or if it would have been more vague than that.  

[ljr]

Lulu is working on an adoption piece for the llanview banner. Then googles  dante and Brooklyn camp hookup?

Ternagers hooking up in camp 20 years ago  will not be in the internet.

Edited April 24 by ljr

[TVbitch]

Are they teeing up for Diane to have some brain malady? Totally unlike her to be making these slips.

So happy for Kristina! I think all of us just need to nearly murder some innocent people to help us learn valuable life lessons. So glad she's over all that and living her best life again! 🙄

 

[Perkie]

57 minutes ago, ljr said:

Then googles  dante and Brooklyn camp hookup?

She wasn't checking the internet she was looking at a photo that she took of Martin's notes that she took when she broke into his room.  

25 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Are they teeing up for Diane to have some brain malady?

I think you're giving the writers too much credit.  I think it's just a plot point to get Molly to see the document.  

 

 

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Yes I can’t tell Avery apart from donna

Donna:  

 

 

 

Avery!!

Edited April 24 by Perkie

[Cheyanne11]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Lulu can't leave well enough alone, can she? She's the worst.

Absolutely awful.  So THIS is the way she's going to back door Dante finding out?  And I have no doubt tomorrow she'll give BL grief--AGAIN--about this 20+ year old secret.  She sucks.

[Corvino]

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On Wednesday at 11:19 PM, Ciarra said:

The dark paint is really ugly.

I was mildly amused, as I usually am, by the West Coast myopia of so many TV set designs. In the American Southwest and California, interiors are often painted in dark colours as  a relaxing change from the heat and unmitigated sunshine outside. In upstate New York, dark colours in an interior would merely echo the frequent clouds and abundant tree shade outside, and would be depressing. You want light colours inside! TV writers on the West Coast often forget this!

I was sooo happy when that ghastly dark brown penthouse, with its mutilated statue fragments, was bombed and the little girl being partly raised there escaped to a decently light environment. The flashback to the penthouse in the latest episode reminded me of our escape.

On the other hand, we saw an image of Mike looking a good bit older than he looked when he died. Does this mean we're about to get an episode of him meeting Sonny in the limbo between life and death? If so, I want Sonny to have to deal with A.J. and Jagger there.

[Artsda]

Carly thinks Sonny going to heaven to see white gates? Lol 

[Luckylyn]

So is the Gio reveal going to happen because Rocco or Charlotte borrow Lulu’s laptop with all the information on it? 

[Suicidy 2.0]

On 4/24/2025 at 6:28 AM, luna1122again said:

He should have contempt for Sasha then, for banging Michael. 

Very good point.

On 4/24/2025 at 9:11 AM, dubbel zout said:

Laura doesn't share a grandson with Sidwell. I get why she doesn't want to actively go after Sonny or denigrate him, especially in public. Rocco is old enough to start questioning what Sonny does and how he's perceived, but of course the show won't dig into that.

It must have freaked Drew out that Willow considered talking to Michael in the first place, instead of letting Drew arrange everything for her.

I also liked that she admitted there was no love lost between her and AJ but that didn't mean he deserved what happened to him.

There’s an outside chance that Drew will kill Michael.  And wouldn’t it be interesting if it turned out he was the one who tried to kill Sonny, and not Sidwell?  

21 hours ago, absnow54 said:

Cody is such a useless character but he has great natural chemistry with pretty much everyone he interacts with. I wish they’d figure out how to make him interesting. 

Speaking of pointless, why is Donna? She’s completely interchangeable with Avery, and I think even Carly forgets she’s her mother 99.9985% of the time. 

I don’t think it hurts anything if he’s only the lovable, fun, cool guy.

[Suicidy 2.0]

21 hours ago, KittyQ said:

What does the Application for Involuntary Commitment document include? The details of the car crash? You'd think there would have to be some reference to why it is being requested, but maybe the details are presented only in court. 

Either way, cat's out of the bag for Molly. Now we'll see how strong Alexis's family group is.

I hope Ava has her money secured this time.  

20 hours ago, ljr said:

Lulu is working on an adoption piece for the llanview banner. Then googles  dante and Brooklyn camp hookup?

Ternagers hooking up in camp 20 years ago  will not be in the internet.

This is a stupid storyline.

19 hours ago, Perkie said:

She wasn't checking the internet she was looking at a photo that she took of Martin's notes that she took when she broke into his room.  

I think you're giving the writers too much credit.  I think it's just a plot point to get Molly to see the document.  

 

 

Donna:  

 

 

 

Avery!!

This reminds me of when my sister lived in another state and I only saw her and her kids every few years.  Unless they were standing next to each other I could barely tell them apart.  The main difference being height.

[dubbel zout]

29 minutes ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

I hope Ava has her money secured this time.  

Ric scolded her for not having it in an offshore account, so my guess is she hasn't.

[KittyQ]

7 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Ric scolded her for not having it in an offshore account, so my guess is she hasn't.

At the very least put it into an account that the Cassadines presumably don't know about, not the one that they raided previously. 

I hope Lulu interviews more than one adopted person for her adoption story and includes people who have adopted children and people who have given up children for adoption. Otherwise, it will be pretty lame. 

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

There’s an outside chance that Drew will kill Michael.  And wouldn’t it be interesting if it turned out he was the one who tried to kill Sonny, and not Sidwell?  

I was thinking the same thing today when Willow believed Michael refused to see her and then Drew talked to the clinic's receptionist/gate keeper lady over the phone about her payment after she said she followed instructions about "Mrs. Corinthos." 

Sidwell is about his own business interests. Drew wants control and is driven by anger/hatred/resentment of Sonny and Jason, which makes this personal. If he kills Sonny, he hurts Jason and people close to Jason which is what he wants. He also wants to make Monica and Tracy suffer because Monica didn't want him in the Q mansion anymore; Tracy would suffer by Monica being devastated over the death of her grandson and also by Jason's suffering.  

[Cheyanne11]

3 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I was thinking the same thing today when Willow believed Michael refused to see her and then Drew talked to the clinic's receptionist/gate keeper lady over the phone about her payment after she said she followed instructions about "Mrs. Corinthos." 

Wow, they're really tripling down on Drew being a total villain.

[dubbel zout]

Butter wouldn't melt in Lulu's mouth. She's writing about adoption because "it's an important topic"? Since when, for her? Ugh.

OMG, Alexis, Noted Bigot Natalia's problems with Kristina were entirely Noted Bigot Natalia's fault. 

The slimefest between Brick and Carly was so gross.

The German clinic receptionist could be bribed by Drew? I am profoundly vexed.

[JMO]

I thought it was strange that Molly would bring the commitment paperwork to Kristina and not to Alexis.  She knows that Kristina has a history of instability.  Why wouldn't she wonder if Alexis has more recent reason to worry?  I get that it moved the plot ahead, but it seemed too clunky to me.

So, does the attempt on Sonny's life mean that Cyrus has been resurrected as a woman in LA?

[dubbel zout]

23 minutes ago, JMO said:

So, does the attempt on Sonny's life mean that Cyrus has been resurrected as a woman in LA?

We'll find out Cyrus was working for Sidwell all along, no matter how nonsensical that is. It's GH!

[Daisy]

what the actual eff is wrong with Drew? 
 

[ciarra]

13 minutes ago, Daisy said:

what the actual eff is wrong with Drew? 

His pants are two sizes too tight?

[kitmerlot1213]

Kate Mansi is very good at portraying unhinged anger but when the scene calls for any type of nuance, it's an epic fail.  Kristina should look absolutely gutted and guilt ridden at Molly's unwavering support but instead KM just look like it's Krissy's due because "she's totally going to therapy now."

I hope the evil nurse does us all a solid and kills Sonny or at least incapacitates him--here's hoping!

 

Edited April 25 by kitmerlot1213

[Cheyanne11]

Lulu gaslighting BrookLyn with that "golly gee, it's not MY fault the Llanview Banner picked the adoption story that I totally submitted to them for me to write!"  I really hope she gets a shit ton of blowback when this all comes out.

Portia: "You know, that's not a bad plan."

Me: "It's actually a ridiculous, atrocious plan, but do go on."

Drew is not only awful, but clearly dangerous.  Don't walk under any cranes, Willow!

[KittyQ]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Butter wouldn't melt in Lulu's mouth. She's writing about adoption because "it's an important topic"? Since when, for her? Ugh.

...

The German clinic receptionist could be bribed by Drew? I am profoundly vexed.

1) Lulu is making it sound as though the Port Charles Herald (? Or whatever name the moribund newspaper goes by) is the one that suggested the topic "Adoption", instead of Lulu proposing several topics that they could choose from. I'm guessing the other topics were things like, "Will today's kids ever learn how to tie shoes now that there are velcro closings for shoes?" or "Pancakes or Waffles? Which is most popular?" 

2) Is everyone so easy to bribe? Why would a German receptionist know or care who Drew was? Other than money, he's not able to do anything for her politically. Why wouldn't Willow ask to at least speak with Michael's doctors? Get direct information about his condition, even if he didn't want to see her in person? Why believe whatever Carly or Drew or whoever tells her how he's doing? After all, you've travelled pretty far to just turn around without even trying anything else. 

[Artsda]

36 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Lulu gaslighting BrookLyn with that "golly gee, it's not MY fault the Llanview Banner picked the adoption story that I totally submitted to them for me to write!"  I really hope she gets a shit ton of blowback when this all comes out.

Portia: "You know, that's not a bad plan."

Me: "It's actually a ridiculous, atrocious plan, but do go on."

Drew is not only awful, but clearly dangerous.  Don't walk under any cranes, Willow!

The only thing Lulu is doing wrong is lying to Dante and Rocco.

The blow back for decades of lies should be rightfully on Brooklyn and even more her mother. 

Alexis needs to stop giving into Ava. Giving her this power. 

Drew get more vile by day. 

Edited April 26 by Artsda

[TVbitch]

2 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Is everyone so easy to bribe?

I guess there is no one on this show who can't be bought. You'd think an administrator at an elite clinic might be above it and even report it. You would think a sex worker who says she is proud of her profession would not jump right on board to extort a congressman, before she even knows the whole story. Not sure who's sneaking into Sonny's room, but I'm sure they got paid, too.

Nina is negligent for not ending the insanity and telling Willow she slept with Drew. With everything at stake, she needs to put her daughter and grandchildren's safety above her fear about how Willow will take it. 

[driver18]

I am 100% on Lulu's side. Brooklyn is wrong. Brooklyn has been lying for years. Brooklyn continues to lie to one of her supposed dear friends. Brooklyn now has Chase lying to his supposed best friend, and partner.

Yes, Lulu got the information in a way she shouldn't have but she wasn't try to hurt Brooklyn or anyone else, but rather find out where her daughter--who hsppened to be in incredible danger--was. With that info, she went to Brooklyn, not Dante, but Brooklyn. Yes, she was angry about the lie--on Dante's behalf because she loves him and Brooklyn has been lying to him for like twenty years. But she did got to Brooklyn first to get the story.

And, yes, Lulu said she would tell Dante if Brooklyn didn't, but after Brooklyn gave her weepy, boohoohoo sob story about protecting MA BABEEE (even though said baby is a full grown adult now), Lulu agreed to keep quiet, and lie for friggin' Brooklyn too.

So, what happened then? Oh, right. Brooklyn's husband, the cop, used his authority to threaten Lulu not because she broke any law, but because he had to be the BIG, STRONG MAN for his wittle woman!!

Then what happened next? Lulu, starting her career up, submitted proposals, and considering that she has been thinking about how adoption CAN completely change someone's life, it makes sense that it WOULD be a topic she would propose. In fact, we even saw her interviewing Lucas on that very idea. This had nothing to do with Brooklyn.

But what did Brooklyn do? Rush over, start sniping at Lulu, assuming that of course it was ALL ABOUT HER because she's so important that obviously Lulu could only be concerned with Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn!!!! She made it all about herself because in Brooklyn's world, she's the center of the universe.

Brooklyn is the worst! I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't understand how Lulu is in the wrong here. Brooklyn is just a heinous beast with zero redeeming qualities as far as I'm concerned. 

[Sake614]

3 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

hope the evil nurse does us all a solid and kills Sonny or at least incapacitates him--here's hoping!

Pretty sure that’s Collette, Brennan’s deputy. And sadly Sonny woke up so I’m guessing when Carly walks in, she sees Collette’s body on the floor. Because frank hates us and won’t just let someone kill Sonny.

[nilyank]

Ah Girl Reporter. It has been a few years but you haven't missed a beat.

• coming up with a story idea and using family and friends to interview? 
• using almost little to no investigative skills?
• having a vague and not really interesting or newsworthy story idea?
• acting like your story will be the most important story every told?

Lulu will forever be Girl Reporter to me.

[KerleyQ]

God help me, I think I like Cody and Molly.  And approximately 10,000% of the credit for that goes to Cody/JK.  On a related note, Cody had better not get too much shit when the whole BLQ/Dante/Gio truth comes out. 

Come on whoever you are in those scrubs, get the job done!  Do us all a solid. As a bonus, if Sonny is no longer, that lowers the risk of more Brick sightings. 

I'm really just not getting what Drew's point is in damn near anything he's doing. He's spreading his scheming self too thin, with less than zero hint of why he's doing anything he does. You've got to start giving us some kind of clue, show. 

[ciarra]

idk, shouldn't Kristina go through the last few weeks and buy a clue that maybe Alexis knows about the brake-cutting incident, maybe that prompted the involuntary commitment papers?  Instead, she's, "I'm a good girl, going to therapy."  This righteous indignation, how very Sonny's daughter.

[KittyQ]

44 minutes ago, ciarra said:

idk, shouldn't Kristina go through the last few weeks and buy a clue that maybe Alexis knows about the brake-cutting incident, maybe that prompted the involuntary commitment papers?  Instead, she's, "I'm a good girl, going to therapy."  This righteous indignation, how very Sonny's daughter.

Kristina isn't that self-aware. Why would her mother consider filing commitment  papers? Hmmm.... let's see what has happened recently...

Of course, Sonny always has some rationale for doing whatever he does, so why wouldn't Kristina as well?

[KittyQ]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Pretty sure that’s Collette, Brennan’s deputy. And sadly Sonny woke up so I’m guessing when Carly walks in, she sees Collette’s body on the floor. Because frank hates us and won’t just let someone kill Sonny.

Collette has the worst moves!

[ByaNose]

I hate to say it but the big super couple love story that Cameron Matheson said that Drew and Willow were going to have ain’t happening. The show is going all in with the creepy Shiloh 2.0 storyline. I’m sure CM is having fun with it but I want it to end like yesterday. Somebody! Anybody kill Drew. Now!!!!!!! That said, when the nurse from the clinic made the phone call I thought Carly was going to pick up so the show did get me there.

I’m looking forward to the Alexis, Kristina and Molly scenes on Monday. I’m just wondering if Alexis will spill the beans or Alexis will bend the truth because Molly is also there. I did appreciate Ava telling Alexis it’s Kristina who should stay away from Ava. Not the other away around. I think Alexis even thought that too. LOL!!!!!!

[Daisy]

42 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

That said, when the nurse from the clinic made the phone call I thought Carly was going to pick up so the show did get me there.

that's who i was expecting. then i am like  how is Drew actually bribing people in a clinic that needed WSB pull. 

make it make sense show

[ljr]

Why can’t they just tell Dante already about the adoption? What’s going to happen he will get angry? He will probably accept it

[YaddaYadda]

Was anyone really expecting the doctor to tell Carly that Sonny had died on his operating table? It's not even teasing anymore. It's just eye roll inducing.

When Carly said that Michael was still in love with Willow, there was no way he was going to turn her away. I knew Drew had done something. Meanwhile, dumb as a box of rocks Willow, Drew would never do this, never do that, we talk about our problems, we are adults!!!

Riiiight!

I don't know where this thing is headed with Drew, but the whole thing with the escort is going to blow up in Nina's face.

I don't hate Cody and Molly together. I thought them riding the horse was lame AF, but I don't hate them. I think there's enough chemistry there to make something decent.

I can't believe they killed off Sam to give us ShrewLu. I can't stand her ass. The family unit has blown up. The kids have scattered, girl reporter is back and is as self-righteous as ever. She knows how to suck the air out of a room. She has it down to a science.

[CeChase]

I think they are going to write it that Drew did set off that bomb, now whether his target was Sonny remains to be seen.  Maybe Michael was his target all along.

I LOVE Molly and Cody.