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On 4/3/2025 at 6:18 PM, graight said:

Why do the showrunners think we want to see mobby/gangster stories? They do it so badly -- if I want to see that I'll watch Coppola/Scorsese/Ritchie movies.  Let Sonny retire and be involved in other stories or just go away.

Is it horrible that I would love a soapy story whereby Kai and Portia have an affair?  I saw sparks.

I like Lucas and Mario but poor Brad is now on the shit list again.

Joss and Vaughn .. zzzzzz .. until the very end.

I wouldn’t mind seeing another weather control machine/Cassadine type story.  But these writers can’t handle that, and I doubt they have the budget anyway.  Hell, I would rather they bring back the vampires and have Lucy regain her slayer powers.

On 4/4/2025 at 1:49 PM, dubbel zout said:

Yes, but my point was more that this is a story that doesn't need to be wrapped up tomorrow. Unlike, say, the interminable Gio story that still hasn't gone anywhere yet is being dragged out so long that not even Gio will care when the secret finally comes out.

I was wondering that as well, but maybe because only one car was involved there was limited followup?

Oooh, maybe that's how Sonny gets a new heart. Ha!

I promise you it does not work that way when insurance is involved.  Ther is ALWAYS and adjustor looking into it.  Plus two people were badly injured I the crash.  As usual, this is the product of lazy, shitty writing.

5 minutes ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

I wouldn’t mind seeing another weather control machine/Cassadine type story.  But these writers can’t handle that, and I doubt they have the budget anyway.  Hell, I would rather they bring back the vampires and have Lucy regain her slayer powers.

I promise you it does not work that way when insurance is involved.  There is ALWAYS an adjustor looking into it.  Plus two people were badly injured I the crash.  As usual, this is the product of lazy, shitty writing.

 

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On 4/4/2025 at 3:01 PM, YaddaYadda said:

Guess Joss didn't go that far away from PC. And you can't sell me this character is the next coming of Sydney Bristow. GTFO with your delusional ass, show!! 

Kristina should be struck by lightning.

Lucky is going to cover for her long? Now that Ava knows the breaks were cut and Ric remembers seeing Kristina at the site of the accident, it won't be hard to figure out what that unhinged moron is.

The Jason/Carly whatever this relationship is needs to absolutely end. If Carly doesn't want to listen, then maybe she shouldn't be saved. She lives in the land of no consequences with everyone enabling her. How many people told her to steer clear of Brennan? But no. Let her fix her own messes.

Carly, here are the papers from when I bought the MetroCourt back for you.

Thank you, Jason, for reminding everyone who may have forgotten how much of a failing upward nitwit Carly is.

 

We’re seeing Joss in her early 20’s now.  Compare her to GF at 19……

Laura is generally  unchanged more badass at 19 than Joss will ever be (bitchy doesn’t count) no matter how much Frank contrives to build her up.

And they don’t really have a good young male lead that would be anywhere near equivalent to Luke or Scorpio.

On 4/5/2025 at 12:56 PM, YaddaYadda said:

I have to ask. Why is Kristina ordering Lucky around? It's the second time she sends him a text where she's commanding him to meet her. NOW. 

That second text from yesterday's episode is kinda stupid. He knows your secret. You put the woman he loves in the hospital. Maybe you ask him nicely instead of being a total bitch about it.

The actresses who play Kristina and Molly are ok, but they are written horribly.  Especially Kristina.  I cringe every time she’s onscreen now.  I would much rather they bring back Haley Pulous and Lexi Ainsworth and let the characters revert back to their original personalities.  

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7 minutes ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

We’re seeing Joss in her early 20’s now.  Compare her to GF at 19……

Laura is totally more badass at 19 than Joss will ever be (bitchy doesn’t count) no matter how much Frank contrives to build her up.

And they don’t really have a good young male lead that would be anywhere near equivalent to Luke or Scorpio.

The actresses who play Kristina and Molly are ok, but they are written horribly.  Especially Kristina.  I cringe every time she’s onscreen now.  I would much rather they bring back Haley Pulous and Lexi Ainsworth and let the characters revert back to their original personalities.  

 

On 4/7/2025 at 12:10 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

Lucky was determined that Kristina had to be turned in to the police, but Kristina manipulated him into keeping quiet by crying that her mother/family can't lose her to prison after they've lost Sam. Good to see though from the preview that he's not just going to let this go.

I did enjoy watching Elizabeth and NuLucas together, they're so adorable as friends/work besties! This is my favorite friendship for Elizabeth since Robin and Patrick left Port Charles. 

I also enjoyed watching the acting ADA call out Anna. Hey Anna, you wouldn't be so defensive if she was wrong about you.

Josslyn is okay to watch when she's calling out her mother.

It was good to actually hear Lucky declare Elizabeth the love of his life, even if it was said while he was angry and not in conversation with Elizabeth.

I laughed that Ava and Ric figured things out so fast. 

Kristina is a moron.  Had Ric and/or Elizabeth died, it would have been a two minute Columbo episode.

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On 4/8/2025 at 1:04 PM, norahs99 said:

i beg to differ. Alexis commited an offence that got her law license revoked on her own. All Ava did was report it. In my opinion, that’ s not ‘wronging’ Alexis.

On this show, snitches get stitches.  Just ask Nina.  Who was rightly punished for reporting legitimate crimes to the authorities. 

On 4/8/2025 at 3:03 PM, TVbitch said:

Noooo, the merciful break from Lois' unbearable boo boo liar eyes is over. 

So Ava will use Kristina's crime for financial gain, not custody of Avery. Priorities, I guess. Meanwhile both men who claim to love Liz are just fine keeping the truth from her. 

Really pissed the we are getting Lucky as a sap and loser covering up for Kristina, which is even worse than Lucky the unbeatable poker player. For the love of god, give JJ a decent story.  

This seems to be the go to for these kinds of stories.  Treating the criminal like the victim and expecting everyone to play along and even cover up crimes for them.  But what else should we expect when the ‘heroes’ of the show are the lovcal mob boss, his enforcer, and the mob bosses on again/off again baby machine.

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On 4/8/2025 at 3:03 PM, TVbitch said:

Noooo, the merciful break from Lois' unbearable boo boo liar eyes is over. 

So Ava will use Kristina's crime for financial gain, not custody of Avery. Priorities, I guess. Meanwhile both men who claim to love Liz are just fine keeping the truth from her. 

Really pissed the we are getting Lucky as a sap and loser covering up for Kristina, which is even worse than Lucky the unbeatable poker player. For the love of god, give JJ a decent story.  

She might be afraid that Sonny will finally kill her for threatening to put his psycho daughter in prison.

On 4/8/2025 at 7:24 PM, statsgirl said:

What did Alexis do that got her disbarred? I know that Neal slept with a former patient, which is a big no-no, but what did Alexi do?

They can't. I have no love for Duell but put him up against Burton as a love interest and there is no way Jason would win.

That's what I thought too. But then it was dropped and so I thought maybe I'm wrong and Joss fooled him after all.

That's SOP for this show. Nina was the villain for reporting the insider trading, Robin was at fault for telling about Michael's paternity.

It's on a level with "Michael will lose his children if Willow finds out that Sasha is having his baby."  Stupid for plot.

Where is Scotty when we need an ambulance chaser?

YES!  Just where the HELL is Scotty?

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"Oh look, your Ma is back!"  "Ma!"  "Are you still mad at your Ma?"  Why is Brooklyn still mad at her Ma?"  "My Ma is my ride or die".  "You needed your Ma just like I needed my Ma".  "I loved my dad as much as you love your Ma". 

Ma.  MA.  MaMaMaMaMaMa.  MAAAAAAAAAA!

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Why is the Quartermaine Mansion overrun with a herd of goats?  Especially ones that aren't in the least bit cute?

Will the Bensonhurst overload ever end?

Or do I need to ask MA?

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12 hours ago, ciarra said:

So Ava doesn't have the money shot of Kristina actually cutting the brakes?  😡

 

How verrryyyyy conveeeeenient.

Bored Season 3 GIF by The Office

All so there is no "caught red-handed" so there's no doubt whatsoever. Because Mooby and his spawn can never lose.

I forgot to mention whoever is in charge of casting (don't know if we still have the same person-Racina?) did a great job with Marco's casting. He actually looks like he could be Rota's son.

And I see that Marco is indeed the child that "gave up" his music career (not guaranteed) to become a-GASP!-lawyer! Oh NOES!!!!! Looks like whatever name NBN* and Blaze discussed was some sort of nick name? It's not anywhere near close to Marco, for sure.

*Noted Bigot Natalia

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All of Noted Bigot Natalia's monologues about how she didn't want her son to fall into his father's business sure fall flat when you remember that she's very into the town's mob boss. You'd think that someone who got out of a marriage with one criminal wouldn't be at all eager to get involved with another one. Of course, learning a lesson is clearly not her strong suit, as she first trashed her relationship with her son, thanks to her homophobia, and the she proceeded to do the same thing to her relationship with her daughter. 

Funny how Kristina has spent, what, almost a full year, ranting and raving about how Ava needs to be brought to justice, but now that she's committed the crime, everyone has to worry about her family suffering any more if she was to be held accountable.  Was she worried about how Avery would suffer if Ava was thrown in jail or dead? Because regardless of the fact that Kristina thinks Ava's a shitty mother, Avery clearly adores her mother and would be heartbroken to lose her. Even her freaking father has managed to keep reminding himself that Ava is too important to Avery for him to kill her. 

And who cares about Molly's pain if her father had died, and Molly's need to see justice served for his accident and injuries. I used to like Kristina and was mostly on her side during the surrogacy storyline, but they've ruined her just as fast as they ruined Sasha. 

I swear, there are like five people on this show I'd be able to stand spending more than 10 seconds around if they were real people. 

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27 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

I used to like Kristina and was mostly on her side during the surrogacy storyline, but they've ruined her just as fast as they ruined Sasha. 

I wish I'd started watching again when Kristina and Sasha were still viable characters.  Unfortunately, all I've seen is a vengeful, angry Kristina eager to lash out, especially at Ava and an entitled, opinionated, hypocrite with Sasha.  

I've always liked Alexis, but how does she not see that Kristina is out of control?  Her "Davis girls" exposition the other day fell pretty flat to me.  

Anybody know what the purpose of those Cody/Lulu scenes was supposed to be?  Was it to make Cody privy to Lulu's "love" for Dante?  Why?  I sure hope it wasn't some attempt to make Lulu's behavior something to cheer about because that's not happening.  Dante doesn't stand a chance.

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18 minutes ago, boes said:

I've always liked Alexis, but how does she not see that Kristina is out of control?  Her "Davis girls" exposition the other day fell pretty flat to me. 

She knows Kristina is out of control, but I guess she thinks that it will make things worse if she tells Kristina to get help, because that will set Kristina over the edge. She's so fragile, you know. Everyone needs to tiptoe around Kristina until she figures things out on her own. It's completely stupid, as usual. 

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I don't think Alexis will ever admit to Ava that Alexis knows Ava isn't responsible. She thinks that will forever rupture her relationship with Kristina. It's all so dumb. I think there is a way to say Ava isn't at fault that doesn't mean Kristina is. It was a terrible accident, even if Kristina was stupid enough to go over to Ava's hotel room in order to pick a fight. But again, Kristina is a fragile flower and no one can tell her anything that might upset what little balance she might be hanging on to.

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3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

How verrryyyyy conveeeeenient.

Bored Season 3 GIF by The Office

All so there is no "caught red-handed" so there's no doubt whatsoever. Because Mooby and his spawn can never lose.

I forgot to mention whoever is in charge of casting (don't know if we still have the same person-Racina?) did a great job with Marco's casting. He actually looks like he could be Rota's son.

And I see that Marco is indeed the child that "gave up" his music career (not guaranteed) to become a-GASP!-lawyer! Oh NOES!!!!! Looks like whatever name NBN* and Blaze discussed was some sort of nick name? It's not anywhere near close to Marco, for sure.

*Noted Bigot Natalia

Marco is t a bad character….. so far.  Let’s hope the writers don’t screw that up.

 

oh, who am I kidding?  We can’t have nice things.  Of course they will.  

1 minute ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

Marco isn’t a bad character….. so far.  Let’s hope the writers don’t screw that up.

 

oh, who am I kidding?  We can’t have nice things.  Of course they will.  

 

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1 hour ago, boes said:

Anybody know what the purpose of those Cody/Lulu scenes was supposed to be?  Was it to make Cody privy to Lulu's "love" for Dante?  Why?  I sure hope it wasn't some attempt to make Lulu's behavior something to cheer about because that's not happening.  Dante doesn't stand a chance.

I wondered the same.  Dante already knows from talking to Maxie that Lulu is still in love with him, so Cody is not necessary for that exposition. Maybe it's for Dante to realize once he finds out about Gio, that of the long-term trusted people in his life, e.g. Cody, Brook Lynn, Lois, and Lulu, Lulu is the one who hasn't kept a major secret from him for decades.

The only moment I liked today was the expression on Drew's face when Carly walked in the door and said to Wiley yes, I'm here to visit you in your new house. The best way I can think to describe it is "someone spit or peed in my coffee in front of my face as they served it to me."  lol

Re preview: I wonder if Alexis is talking to Marty. She can't have her own partner be her/Kristina's lawyer, right?

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Ugh, Wiley. 

Tracy has a point that if Jason is going to live at the Qs he needs to be more involved with the family doings, but she's way off to insist he get more involved with Sasha's pregnancy. That's between the two of them and the two of them only.

Tracy doesn't strike me as a Birkin bag aficionado. She has the money for it, of course, but I'd think she'd find it a rich-lady cliché.

LOL that Brick couldn't find any record of Noted Bigot Natalia's marriage to and divorce from Sidwell.

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Tracy seems to be inserting herself into everyone's business, even if it has nothing to do with her. I don't recall her being such a busybody back in the day. Is the idea that now that she's older, she has nothing to do except monitor everyone else?

Threatening the movers with trespass charges was over the top. Although, if I were Willow, I would have made sure I was there when they arrived so that I could be sure that only my possessions would be transported. That way, Tracy couldn't later claim that I stole some of the Quartermain's stuff. 

 

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4 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

 . . . if I were Willow, I would have made sure I was there when they arrived so that I could be sure that only my possessions would be transported. That way, Tracy couldn't later claim that I stole some of the Quartermain's stuff. 

 

I was trying to figure out what possessions of Willow's had to be moved. The gatehouse was already furnished when she and Michael moved in and Drew has furniture. Wiley already has a bed in his new place, and the little girl probably does too since she was napping. I know Willow'd have clothes, but isn't that what suitcases are for? Besides clothes and miscellaneous junk, what was there that belonged to her? 

*I know, I know . . . movers were the easiest way to advance the plot, but sheesh, writers!

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I see we're on a path to some sort of showdown between Joss and Emma. It's probably too much to ask that Emma has been a WSB agent since she was at Berkeley, and her expulsion there was part of the mission to give her some sort of cred at PCU, and Joss is there to play the useful idiot. But since Joss is a Carly, no doubt she will end up saving PCU and the greater Port Charles area from an environmental terrorism attack, as well as doing emergency life-saving surgery on Emma. Sigh.

I had to laugh at Gio trying to come to Joss's defense with Emma.He goes on about how tough Joss has had it over the last five or so years, which is true, but it's not as if any of those things changed her. She's still the same selfish, entitled, know-it-all she's always been.

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Holy hell, Drew was a manipulative asshole today.  Right after Sasha finally voices what we've all been saying--that she's traded in one cult for another--he pulls that "golly gee, I'm concerned that the kids will be confused" and then when Willow brushes that off comes back with "are you SURE you want to take the kids there?  Maybe it's better Monica comes here" knowing full well Monica is ill.  How does Willow not see this?

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Emma talks about Joss never paying price? 

Lucy is an idiot who will deserve what Sidwell does to deception. Maxie too. Good for Tracy.  I hope all assets are frozen and Tracy laughs. 

Sasha really going to act holier than thou over Willow. She just took Sidwell money to screw over her so called cousin Maxie. She slept and pregnant by married man and claiming a hitman is the daddy instead. Among her countless other crimes. 

Drew doesn't even care that Monica is sick. 

 

 

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Did anyone think that Sidwell's free sample of his mineral for Deception looks like a vial of crack cocaine? Just me?

Omg Willow can't even make a decision that lasts one minute before she lets Drew change her mind. If their love was so strong, she should be able to make her own decisions even if Drew doesn't like it. He is not protecting her; he is manipulating her to do what he wants. 

Wylie is so annoying. But not as annoying as James, so there is that.

Back when Joss first met Brennan, she told him that her major was environmental science and he was completely intrigued by that. Now we know why. They are going to need Joss to get close to that professors.

I know some speculated that Emma was recruited for the WSB. But what if she recruited/blackmailed by the other side with DVX. Considering Anna's history that would be sort of interesting.

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Bunk bed?  Congressman Cain can't afford a house where the kids don't have to double up? 

Poor Natalia.  Choking back tears because Sonny doesn't want to be her friend anymore.

Joss can start a new class in April?

Don't the Q's get bugs in the house from having the kitchen doors wide open?  Especially with horses on the property.

 

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Natalia getting a whole family and none of them like her. Whatever. Marco seems intriguing but why does he have to be related to Natalia and Sidwell?! Sonny won’t be Natalia’s friend anymore. Who is Sonny gonna to get his non sex from now? 

The Ava and Alexis stuff was fun. I’m hoping Alexis rips Kristina a new one before deciding what to do. I’m glad Ric and Rick Hearst survived. He’s sooo good in the role. I was sort of hoping that Ava (and, Ric) would have blackmailed Kristina just to mess with her. Of course, Alexis will cover for her. That said, I want Lucky off the show now. It’s bad enough he doesn’t shower or shave but now he’s actually keeping Kristina’s secret. WTH? Jonathan Jackson’s return has been a major dud. He hardly interacts with Genie Francis or nuLulu for that matter. 

When are they going to put us out of our misery with the reveal of Gio’s parentage? The nurses ball? 

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3 hours ago, ciarra said:

Bunk bed?  Congressman Cain can't afford a house where the kids don't have to double up? 

 

Maybe Wiley has a room to himself with a bunk bed in it, and he naturally chooses to sleep on the top bunk. I was older than he is when I had the top bunk at summer camp, and stayed up there when the girl in the lower bunk left. I cried mightily when they took it away and made me descend to a one-story bed.

This would therefore represent my first and probably only moment of feeling at one with Wiley about anything. 

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OMG, I had a dream last night where I met Cam Mathison at some event.  I was so excited and he was so nice and I told him that I watched him on AMC (???) all the time (which is very strange because though I did watch AMC back in the day, I never watched during his run on the show).  And I totally blanked out on his character's name and was so embarrassed about that; even when I woke up, it took me a few minutes to remember the name Drew Cain (or Ryan Lavery - was that him?).  I once saw CM on Celebrity Family Feud and remember thinking he was an annoying asshole IRL as well as on TV, so why is  he infiltrating my sleep??

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13 hours ago, nilyank said:

Did anyone think that Sidwell's free sample of his mineral for Deception looks like a vial of crack cocaine? Just me?

LOL. I wondered if it was some sort of bug/camera/poison/plot necessity to be revealed. That dumb vial got so much attention.

11 hours ago, ciarra said:

Bunk bed?  Congressman Cain can't afford a house where the kids don't have to double up?

Wiley is his mother's son: Anything from Drew is the bestest ever! Snark aside, I can buy a kid Wiley's age thinking bunk beds are cool. 

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Willow adopted Wiley, so she's his mother, not his stepmother.
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Most Parents:  why you bother with music! Be a lawyer! Be a doctor! make good money! think of the ancestors!

Natalia: why  do you have a stable job, be a musician where one wrong word can get you cancelled! What's wrong with you?

(also why the eff are we making an entire new family tree for Natalia and Sidwell. just stahp show)

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Lots of truth being spoken today.  Sasha asking Jason why he stayed away from the family that he now wants her to stay close with.  Carly reminding Willow that she's not Wiley's bio mom.  Willow reminding Carly that she had a mobster raise Michael.  Emma calling Anna out on her lifestyle, Anna acknowledging it.  And, most welcome of all, Diane telling Alexis that Kristina needs to be committed.  

Finally, the kind of interaction between Emma and Anna that's been so long missing, which came with a brief glimpse of the Anna of old.

Overall, a good Friday for me.

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I quite enjoyed today's episode.

So Emma and Joss are competing  for professor Dalton's attention. Too bad we already know who will win.

I loathe animal testing (I protested it in when I was in college) so I'm definitely on Emma's side. Anna's side, not so much.

I haven't liked Diane so much in  years. (pleased that she took my advice) Also I covet her suit.

I was waiting for Carly to tell Willow that she was taking Carly's sloppy seconds in the form of Drew.

Curtis and Sasha/Jason were wastes of time.

On 4/9/2025 at 10:56 PM, rur said:

I will give her a point or two for saying that she didn't want him to become one of his father's shady minions and she should have fought harder against that. But the fact that years later she's still harping about his choice to not become a musician cancels them out. 

Good points.  Even if she didn't want him to work for his father, after all this time she needs to accept that he made a free decision.

 

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Joss asking Vaughn how she should become the prof's RA, it reminded me of Girl Reporter asking everyone else to do her job for her.

2 minutes ago, JMO said:

Carly reminding Willow that she's not Wiley's bio mom.

I'm with Willow here—that's one of the grossest things Carly has ever said. Baby hoarder extraordinaire Carly can fuck off with that crap.

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40 minutes ago, JMO said:

And, most welcome of all, Diane telling Alexis that Kristina needs to be committed.  

And Alexis finally told her to do it! Kristina definitely needs some help. She’s been going over the edge for awhile

I also liked that Diane pointed out that Kristina never has to clean up her messes: Either Alexis or Sonny comes in and makes the trouble go away, even at their own expense.

 

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