Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Mirabelle]

2 hours ago, driver18 said:

Just an FYI... I just got my friend to start watching GH so I could have someone to talk to IRL starting 2 weeks ago. Consensus so far.

 

I'm guessing this friend of yours once hand knit you a sweater for you to do this to her.

[TVbitch]

I have also been thinking that Willow will kill Drew ala Laura killing David Hamilton when she realized how he had used and humiliated her. It could be DID or maybe she will just block it out for a long while like Laura did. I mean, they are pretty much using old plots and just changing the names at this point, so why not!  

[dubbel zout]

3 hours ago, driver18 said:

Sadly (damn you, writers!!!), she doesn't like Tracy.

If I were a new viewer and this was my first exposure to her, I'd hate her too. Tracy is awful right now.

34 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

I have also been thinking that Willow will kill Drew ala Laura killing David Hamilton when she realized how he had used and humiliated her.

If Willow could wait to murder Drew until he's thoroughly exposed Portia's medical shenanigans, I'd appreciate it.

[ciarra]

Jason or Sasha kill Drew, then marry to avoid testifying against each other.  Micheal returns to Jason's name on the birth certificate.

[boes]

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

I vote for Willow's DID name(s) to be tree varieties. At least that would be self-limiting, right?  Let's see... Olive, Cherry, Silver (Aspen, Birch) - any others?

How about Stinkwood?  It has a certain ring to it.

Or, to get all fancy and stuff, maybe give her a double name like Dutch Elm?

Drew could relinquish the Quartermaine name and go by a more appropriate moniker such as Peckerwood.  

[Bringonthedrama]

NuLulu goes to Carly for advice about the BLQ/Dante secret baby news. Oh, Show. I was actually surprised Carly didn't shriek once (for now) but c'mon, Robin did not "wreck" your lives. AH was very good in showing layers to her reaction and thoughts/feelings about Dante, BLQ, and their families. This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think Lulu has been a good character so far when she's having relationship scenes with her mom, Lucky, Rocco, and Dante that aren't all about finding Charlotte.

Tracy throwing Stone, Karen and Jason in Sonny's face in front of Lois, BLQ, Dante and Gio was well written and equisitely acted by JE. The Tracy-Gio scene was great too; they have good family chemistry. It seems that Gio is the new Violet in her life; can't wait for their reactions to finding out Tracy is his great grandmother and that Lois has been lying to his face since he was a baby. I felt really bad for him today when he talked about his past.  

Alexis being so blunt with Sidwell is as entertaining as when Alexis has no time for Carly. Kudos to NLG.

ETA: Elizabeth's line to Drew today about Oscar was kind of her to say, but I don't buy for a moment that Drew and/or Trina and Joss think about or talk about memories of Oscar alone or with others. 

Edited Thursday at 08:22 PM by Bringonthedrama

[statsgirl]

Why would Lulu go to Carly of all people with Dante's secret child? Why not Laura? Or Maxie? Of Kevin? Does Carly not have enough to do on the other 50 story lines she's already in?

And Lulu is asking Carly whether she should keep it a secret? Carly who specializes in keeping people's true parenthood a secret?

Lulu: "I think Dante deserves to know he has a son."  Yes Lulu, he has Rocco. You mean another son.

So Sonny is going to buy Valentin's house so he has a place to stay while his penthouse gets repaired?  Jost how much money does he have to throw around? And if he has that much, why not hire more people to fix the penthouse faster?

Tracy, Gio's unwitting great grandmother, confronting Sonny, his unwitting grandfather. I don't know whether to be impressed or throw up.

Let me get this straight:  Olivia and Sonny are Dante's parents so they are Gio's grandparents. But Olivia is now married to Ned who is Brook Lynn's father and thus Ned is both Gio's grandfather and his stepgrandfather. That's some "I married my own grandpa" stuff.

20 hours ago, Sake614 said:

No they were campers when they were in Junior High and then became CITs in HS. Although the ages still don’t line up. As I said, I went to sleepaway camp from 10-13. That’s generally the age for going away unless it’s specifically a camp for teens. By the show’s ‘logic’ they either started camp at 13 or they were CITs at 14. 

Okay, so they paid as campers, and then half costs as CITs. I know that Brook Lynn had Quartermaine money and maybe Cody's was paid by his stepfather but how did Olivia afford 2 or 3 years of sleepover camp for Dante? That doesn't come cheap.

2 hours ago, rur said:

And, once again, ChatGPS demonstrates the limits of AI.

Just as a side note, people who are neutrodiverse (e.g. ADHD, autism spectrum) are getting an F their school papers for plagiarism even when they aren't. The way neurodivergent  naturally speak can get flagged as AI. 

[dubbel zout]

Can James please be sent to military school? He's so tiresome. He's also a budding pathological liar.

Not that I'm entirely surprised that Lulu has no sympathy whatsoever for teen mom Brook Lynn, but sheesh. BL gave up the baby; it's not as if she were raising the kid and Dante has no clue. Am I really supposed to be on Lulu's side here? Why does she think she should tell Dante anything? It has nothing to do with her. Talk about it not being her secret to tell. And with Carly being the voice of reason here, I am reeling. Not that Lulu will listen to Carly's warnings. Because Lulu is that petty.

I'm sad Sidwell didn't through Noted Bigot Natalia's noted bigotry in her face. You can't tell me he didn't keep tabs on her in a loose way over the years and after running into her that first time in Port Charles that he didn't do a deep dive.

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Tracy, Gio's unwitting great grandmother, confronting Sonny, his unwitting grandfather. I don't know whether to be impressed or throw up.

Anyone who throws Sonny's past in his face and doesn't back down gets a thumb's up from me, but the reason for the fight was so idiotic. Gio isn't some grade schooler; he's at least 21, right? He can take money from whomever he wants. Though he should have at least read the papers over before signing. Even if Diane and Alexis both worked on the papers. You always read them  first!

Sonny would have been sitting through endless violin concerts while he was married to Carly, right? I don't think she knew Gio existed until he came to PC. What exactly did he tell her when he slipped off to Bensonhurst or wherever, it was a business trip?

Why hasn't Sonny dropped dead yet? He's had numerous stressful situations with nary a twinge.

[Bringonthedrama]

5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

But Olivia is now married to Ned who is Brook Lynn's father and thus Ned is both Gio's grandfather and his stepgrandfather. That's some "I married my own grandpa" stuff.

 On this Show, nbd considering:

-Carly was both Rocco's stepgrandmother and his cousin (he's Lulu kid) while she was married to Sonny.

-Donna, Carly and Sonny's daughter, is Lulu's cousin and Dante's little sister. So, she is both cousin and aunt to Rocco.

-Molly and Kristina, James and Bailey Lu, Danny and Scout, Wiley and Amelia are all siblings as well as cousins to each other.

-Ava was Sam's aunt and simultaneously her cousin-in-law while Ava was married to Nikolas. (Ava has been Alexis' sister-in-law and niece-in-law.)

 

 

[statsgirl]

Why are Willow, Isaiah and Kai all rewarding James for sliding off of the roof? Are Felicia and Maxie the only ones who have any sense of parenting? No wonder Wylie is such a pain.

It may be my biases but I preferred seeing Alexis standing up to Sidwell to Lucy propping him.

No surprise, Carly blames Robin for wrecking their lives by revealing the secret of Michael's paternity and not herself for the secret in the first place. And Lulu, who spent time growing up in the Quartermaine house, shouldn't accept so blithely how horrible it would have been for Michael to be AJ's son.

8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sonny would have been sitting through endless violin concerts while he was married to Carly, right? I don't think she knew Gio existed until he came to PC. What exactly did he tell her when he slipped off to Bensonhurst or wherever, it was a business trip?

Carly is the perfect mob moll, as she herself keeps telling us. I doubt that Sonny had to say anything other than it was 'bidness'.

I have a hard time buying Sonny sitting through student violin recitals. Those things are painful.

[dubbel zout]

9 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I have a hard time buying Sonny sitting through student violin recitals. Those things are painful.

And of course there's this. I was going to say something about how uninvolved he likely is in Donna and Avery's extracurriculars, and then I mentally slapped myself and remembered: Girl children. Of course someone else's son is more worthy of his attention.

[JMO]

I know it's unpopular here, but I think James is a cute little handful, and exactly the kid Maxie would have.  If I'd been seeing him for his fracture, I would have stepped out of the room for a moment to laugh, and then gone in and been appropriately sympathetic with the parent.  This kid is going places, if he makes it to adulthood.

I guess it wasn't surprising that Lulu chose Carly to talk to.  She knows Carly was given to adoption by her bio mom, and might be able to share that perspective on it.  

Tracy. She could certainly have developed a relationship with Gio without having a blowup with Sonny, but considering Sonny will eventually come to be recognized as Gio's grandfather, maybe it's part of some elaborate set up.  Regardless, I like to see that relationship developing, and wish she was also working on one with each of the other kids in the house.  They don't need to have her play the bad guy to make her interesting; JE has that covered.

I forgot that Drew is Oscar's father.  Obviously the change in actors doesn't help, but it's more the change in Drew's personality.

Overall, I feel like something has happened with the show.  They seem to know which stories they want to tell now, and they're moving them forward with a momentum that has been missing for a long time.  I'm not a fan of all of these stories, but I appreciate the progress.  I hope they will become adept at integrating depth into the characters and conversations as well. 

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Can James please be sent to military school?

He has the haircut for it.

You know the Gio reveal is coming when Sonny and Tracy are already fighting over him.

Lulu is a walking, talking self-righteous nightmare. Hey Lulu, you suck! When Carly is the one who makes sense, when Carly is the one using facts, showing empathy and understanding to Brooklyn, you know that there's a corner in hell that has frozen over.

[absnow54]

20 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

You know the Gio reveal is coming when Sonny and Tracy are already fighting over him.

I’m surprised Lois didn’t explode when Tracy reasoned Sonny could pay for Gio’s education is he were his grandfather. 

[Nique]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Can James please be sent to military school? He's so tiresome. He's also a budding pathological liar

No! I love him he's my favorite kid on the show, and my favorite of Maxie's He's a chip off the old block always into something just like she was & still is. Messy, fun, gossipy, and blunt. Playing somewhere he's not supposed to & doesn't want his mom to know after getting hurt. Oh My God the hOrRoR😳a typical kid doesn't ≠pathological liar

He is a breath of fresh of air in a sea of soap kids who are either budding psychos ie: Rachel #Days little redhead mykill, and who exists just to smile, stare and nod Wiley, Amelia, Young Jake before Hudson, prop for their parents to an extent Donna, Avery/Sonny. Lil Georgie is blunt, rude, messy and Bailey is shady side eyes all my girl kids are all different forms of her and her personality.

 

[rur]

1 hour ago, absnow54 said:

I’m surprised Lois didn’t explode when Tracy reasoned Sonny could pay for Gio’s education is he were his grandfather. 

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Sonny has known all along the Gio was BL's baby. We have heard in the past that he spent a lot of time at Lois's house because things were so bad at his home. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch to believe that Lois would have confided about her daughter to  someone she'd known most of her life, and that he'd keep an eye out for him.  Of course that would also have been before he knew that Dante was his son or was involved at all. 

Edited Friday at 12:14 AM by rur

[sas616]

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I have a hard time buying Sonny sitting through student violin recitals.

I starting to think that Sonny knows the truth about Gio.  Would explain why he's been giving money for his education.  Gio said that Sonny starting giving money after his mother died.  Maybe it started even before that.

[Suicidy 2.0]

7 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

NuLulu goes to Carly for advice about the BLQ/Dante secret baby news. Oh, Show. I was actually surprised Carly didn't shriek once (for now) but c'mon, Robin did not "wreck" your lives. AH was very good in showing layers to her reaction and thoughts/feelings about Dante, BLQ, and their families. This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think Lulu has been a good character so far when she's having relationship scenes with her mom, Lucky, Rocco, and Dante that aren't all about finding Charlotte.

Tracy throwing Stone, Karen and Jason in Sonny's face in front of Lois, BLQ, Dante and Gio was well written and equisitely acted by JE. The Tracy-Gio scene was great too; they have good family chemistry. It seems that Gio is the new Violet in her life; can't wait for their reactions to finding out Tracy is his great grandmother and that Lois has been lying to his face since he was a baby. I felt really bad for him today when he talked about his past.  

Alexis being so blunt with Sidwell is as entertaining as when Alexis has no time for Carly. Kudos to NLG.

ETA: Elizabeth's line to Drew today about Oscar was kind of her to say, but I don't buy for a moment that Drew and/or Trina and Joss think about or talk about memories of Oscar alone or with others. 

Lulu rifling through the confidential files of an attorney was vile.  And now here broadcasting that private information was just gross.   Is it the writer’s intention that we hate NuNuLulu?  Because I do.

[tessaray]

7 hours ago, JMO said:

know it's unpopular here, but I think James is a cute little handful, and exactly the kid Maxie would have.  If I'd been seeing him for his fracture, I would have stepped out of the room for a moment to laugh, and then gone in and been appropriately sympathetic with the parent.  This kid is going places, if he makes it to adulthood.

He can be cute, though he can also be smug and/or spoiled. At least he doesn't sing or write songs. 

[ByaNose]

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

He can be cute, though he can also be smug and/or spoiled. At least he doesn't sing or write songs. 

The kid can act but the ER visit with a broken arm visit was pure torture. So you realize how many people involved in that ridiculous arc? Too many. Did GH have a guaranteed minimum for the adults they had to meet or something?! Such a waste. It doesn’t move any storyline from what I can tell. It was rather bizarre to waste all that time. I can’t believe a writer was tasked and paid for that. Wait! Why am I so hot under the collar? It’s only a stupid soap already getting beat by the new soap n CBS. It won’t be long till FV and the writers are canned.

[methodwriter85]

4 hours ago, sas616 said:

I starting to think that Sonny knows the truth about Gio.  Would explain why he's been giving money for his education.  Gio said that Sonny starting giving money after his mother died.  Maybe it started even before that.

Okay, yeah- Sonny saying dead-ass that he would do anything for Gio? He knows. 

Edited Friday at 08:14 AM by methodwriter85

[graight]

13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Let me get this straight:  Olivia and Sonny are Dante's parents so they are Gio's grandparents. But Olivia is now married to Ned who is Brook Lynn's father and thus Ned is both Gio's grandfather and his stepgrandfather. That's some "I married my own grandpa" stuff.

I think you are referring to the novelty song "I'm My Own Grandpa," but your point is well-taken.  The relationships are more convoluted than the royal family's.  What's surprising is that Sasha and Cody's relationship is the first time cousins got the hots for each other on this show.  And Monica/Ned doesn't count.

[sashabear21]

This Gio story is so epically stupid. A few weeks ago when Lois and BLQ were talking about the pregnancy and adoption Lois was all, "You did the right thing, you had a lot going on, you had camp, you were gunna be a counseluh!!" like it was some camp she'd been going to since childhood and had epic dreams of being a counselor and now it's like, "yeah she only went that one time, left early, and didn't seem to like it much". Is this whole story being written by a defective AI bot that someone accidentally spilled a beer on? Not to mention the fact that just from an aesthetic standpoint, Gio looks more like the love child of Cody and Lulu (or God forbid the unaborted fetus of Dillion and Lulu) than the secret child of Dante and Brooklyn. I mean no wonder even terrible secret keeper Lois was able to keep it a secret for so long because no one would have guessed that one!

[MarciNJ]

16 hours ago, JMO said:

I guess it wasn't surprising that Lulu chose Carly to talk to.  She knows Carly was given to adoption by her bio mom, and might be able to share that perspective on it.  

I think you are giving it more thought than the writers; I think they just wanted to shoehorn Carly into another story that doesn't involve her...

Edited Friday at 02:30 PM by MarciNJ

[absnow54]

7 hours ago, ByaNose said:

The kid can act but the ER visit with a broken arm visit was pure torture. So you realize how many people involved in that ridiculous arc? Too many. Did GH have a guaranteed minimum for the adults they had to meet or something?! Such a waste. It doesn’t move any storyline from what I can tell. It was rather bizarre to waste all that time. I can’t believe a writer was tasked and paid for that. Wait! Why am I so hot under the collar? It’s only a stupid soap already getting beat by the new soap n CBS. It won’t be long till FV and the writers are canned.

This is a good point. Even filler serves some purpose to establish characters or build relationships. Like I can’t remember what type of doctor Isaiah is because every physician seems to be interchangeable based on which actor hasn’t met their minimum for the month, but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be treating James until after he’d been to radiology.

Regardless, if you edited the clips from yesterday’s episode, I doubt they’d fill more than a few minutes, so it’s not like it was dragged out or ate up half the show, so I wasn’t bothered by it. I still stand by my theory that the writing department has been infiltrated by AI, which is leading to the influx of non-sensical contrivances to move characters around the canvas. 

Edited Friday at 02:37 PM by absnow54

[dubbel zout]

56 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

Like I can’t remember what type of doctor Isaiah is

A transplant surgeon. So setting a broken arm is naturally within his specialty. /s

[JMO]

I think the reason for the James incident was the scene he had with Kai, to cement Kai’s involvement in Drew’s new pediatric sports program, which serves as a means to embroil Kai and Trina with the person who is blackmailing her mother. 
When he first came to PC, Isaiah said he wanted to leave transplant surgery, but he got roped into Lulu’s. Maybe he’s switched into emergency medicine. LOL at Willow saying how much she liked working in the ED, since James seemed to be their only patient.  Wonder how she’d like working in The Pitt.  

[Sake614]

53 minutes ago, JMO said:

Willow saying how much she liked working in the ED, since James seemed to be their only patient.  Wonder how she’d like working in The Pitt.

She’d run screaming from The Pitt after 30 seconds. That place is seriously hard core and worse than any ED I’ve been to! But back to GH ED, I’ve always wondered how there is no one waiting to see a doctor. People just casually stroll in and say ‘hi I need a doctor’ and one magically appears to take care of them personally and stay with them at all times. 🙄

[Mirabelle]

I've always assumed the only people who go to GH are those who have no choice or have family working here. Given the choice between any other hospital in Port Charles and General Hospital, I'd chose the other hospital. 

Just off the top of my head:

1) bad doors - people are always getting stuck on the roof (why do they not have a door bell on that door)

2) HIPAA - the doctors and nurses have never heard of it

3) the serial killer

4) doctors treating people outside of their specialty

5) all the faulty lab results

[Sake614]

2 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

bad doors - people are always getting stuck on the roof (why do they not have a door bell on that door)

No one should be going onto the hospital roof! That door should have an alarm that sounds if it’s opened and a big neon sign that says ‘NO RE-ENTRY!’

true story: long before cell phones, I was in a small shopping mall and didn’t feel like waiting for the elevator. So I took to the stairs only to find that the main floor door was LOCKED! There was absolutely no way to get out of the stairwell so I started pounding on the door, praying that someone would hear me and open it. It took several minutes but finally a security guard opened the door. There was NO SIGN telling me there was no way back in. Needless to say I was in full on panic mode wondering if or when I’d be found. And clearly learned my lesson lol!

[dubbel zout]

12 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

Given the choice between any other hospital in Port Charles and General Hospital, I'd chose the other hospital. 

You realize you'd be choosing that death trap Mercy, right? The hospital where disgraced GH staff scuttle off to to server their penance? The hospital that's always underfunded and is—the horror! gasp!—public?

Roll those dice, @Mirabelle! 🎲☠️

Edited Friday at 06:50 PM by dubbel zout

[MarciNJ]

30 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Given the choice between any other hospital in Port Charles and General Hospital, I'd chose the other hospital. 

I'd even drive up to Beecher's Corner - they must have a hospital up there...  Or maybe cross the river into...  wait for it.... Pennsylvania!

[Pingaponga]

Has anyone else noticed that the WSB logo looks like a jaunty hat on top of...something?

[sacrebleu]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

But back to GH ED, I’ve always wondered how there is no one waiting to see a doctor. People just casually stroll in and say ‘hi I need a doctor’ and one magically appears to take care of them personally and stay with them at all times. 🙄

Seriously, as violent as PC is with mob wars and serial killers, no one ever waits 6 hours to get a fractured wrist looked at. (Which is something I have done)

[ciarra]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

People just casually stroll in and say ‘hi I need a doctor’ and one magically appears to take care of them personally and stay with them at all times.

And they can see a specialist at any time, even at night.

[statsgirl]

What does Sidwell want with the Cassadine dagger? And with Natasha's fingerprints on it?

Shut up, Lois. You're a freeloader at Casa Quartermaine; you have no right to yell at Tracy for what she does.

The Joss Mary Sue story continues. Why does Brennan need hourly updates on Joss? Maybe the parent of a a preemie needs hourly updates but not the head of the WSB on a new recruit. Also, as hard as he was trying, no chemistry between Joss and new guy.

The kick at the end of the fight was good though.

So Jordan has nothing in her fridge but soy sauce and baking soda so she has to order in. I am very tired of this outdated trope where a woman is incompetent in the kitchen and a man saves her, as tired as I am of Olivia's pans of ziti.

I'm also tired of men telling women what to do. Shut up Isaiah. You're pretty but it doesn't make up for being controlling.

Valentin's old place/Sonny's new place has 12 ft tall hedges. That sounds to me like a break in waiting to happen.

Carly to Brennan: "Didn't expect to see you here again."  Unspoken: everyone is supposed to do what i tell them to.

3 hours ago, JMO said:

 LOL at Willow saying how much she liked working in the ED, since James seemed to be their only patient.  Wonder how she’d like working in The Pitt.  

I would love to see that. How would she survive without everyone treating her special?

[boes]

1 hour ago, Pingaponga said:

Has anyone else noticed that the WSB logo looks like a jaunty hat on top of...something?

I would give whatever required to see Brennan, or Sonny, or Sidwell, or, hell, anybody in PC show up dressed like Mr. Peanut.

Joss's WSB disguise??

[YaddaYadda]

The new guy does have a very sweet hiney. Joss had more chemistry with him than she's ever had with Dex.

I've never seen so much pretty in one scene with Isaiah and Jordan and so little chemistry.

Lulu needs to take a leap off a bridge. I don't know how hard it is to understand that she didn't want her choice taken from her. Dante may have respected her choice, but have you met Olivia?

Just go back in your coma, ShrewLu.

[dubbel zout]

Jordan's apartment is Lulu and Dante's old place, right? LOL at Jordan's serial killer mask. That was a nice touch.

6 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

So Jordan has nothing in her fridge but soy sauce and baking soda so she has to order in. I am very tired of this outdated trope where a woman is incompetent in the kitchen and a man saves her, as tired as I am of Olivia's pans of ziti.

How else would we know she's a dedicated professional? Anyone with time to cook is a slacker.

And Lulu continues to be a world-class asshole. She's so sure of her self-righteousness. Ugh. May Charlotte never want to live with her.

New Guy is pushing things a bit, but that's pretty common for first appearances. I like him so far. It's a shame he's destined for Joss's deadly vagina.

27 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

What does Sidwell want with the Cassadine dagger? And with Natasha's fingerprints on it?

Maybe he'll use it to stab Drew to death and frame Alexis for the murder.

I kind of love Carly telling Brennan she won't get involved with him because of his lifestyle, and when says, "Okay, see ya!" she gets all offended.

3 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

Seriously, as violent as PC is with mob wars and serial killers, no one ever waits 6 hours to get a fractured wrist looked at. (Which is something I have done)

I have to say, when I presented myself at the ER of an NYC hospital with a fever of 104 degrees, they took me back immediately. However, when I presented myself at the same ER with a fever of 102, it was a different story. I waited forever. It sucks when it's an emergency for you but in the broader triage context, you can wait. The urgent care centers around here aren't that much better, and depending on what the deal is, they'll send you to the ER anyway.

[KittyQ]

So Tracy is "biased against" Sonny for some reason? What could that possibly be? <snark> He's such a nice guy, and donates money to lots of worthy causes!</snark>

Did Lulu forget her own unplanned teen pregnancy? Is she blaming Brooklyn for not making the same choice? Did she think that Dante was a virgin with no history prior to meeting Lulu? 

Why doesn't Lulu quit her job working for Brooklyn? She can't even pretend to get along with her, although I suspect there's more jealousy involved than anything else. 

At this point, I'm thinking that Lulu is not the great mom she thinks she is - her obsession with Charlotte at the expense of Rocco is just bad. 

 

[MarciNJ]

40 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

It's a shame he's destined for Joss's deadly vagina.

Hmmm... you bring up an interesting point;  Joss's deadly vagina - Oscar and Dex.... Michael's deadly penis - Abby, Sabrina, Kiki (though they weren't together at the time).  Anyway, perhaps it all goes back to Carly and her uterus (and she wasn't even shot in the uterus)

[YaddaYadda]

55 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

New Guy is pushing things a bit, but that's pretty common for first appearances. I like him so far. It's a shame he's destined for Joss's deadly vagina.

Joss's deadly vagina, Michael's deadly penis. I'm waiting on Sasha and Willow to drop. At the same time if you please.

The new actor is definitely capable. Let's hope the writing doesn't suck the talent out of him.

[KittyQ]

My goodness - Lulu really is on her high horse - instead of talking with Brooklyn about possibly telling Dante about their child, she's forcing the conversation, or she will do it. I'd be tempted to tell her to go ahead and talk. See how that goes. Brooklyn would prefer to tell Chase first, I would imagine. 

These are delicate conversations, not just things you should blurt out in the middle of an argument. 

[absnow54]

I hate the Gio storyline, but credit where credit’s due. I thought Amanda Sutton was great today. Her surprise at learning her child was a boy was really well done. 

Joss and her new love interest actually worked today but it felt jarring to jump into the training already under progress. Also the “choreography” for that fight was all kids of gently lifting and laying onto the matts. Until the kick…

Jordan and Isaiah are such a boring and low stakes pairing. She had better chemistry in her brief interactions with Sidwell. The actor playing Isaiah is so good. I hope they figure out what to do with him, because the writing for him has been so aimless.

Yay for Ned getting to speak some reasonable truths. We know Sonny isn’t supporting Gio for nefarious reasons, but Ned raised a good point about Gio feeling indebted to him. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

Is she blaming Brooklyn for not making the same choice?

She's mostly blaming BL for not telling Dante she was pregnant.

16 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

Ned raised a good point about Gio feeling indebted to him. 

And shockingly, Sonny admitted to Dante that it was a good point.

[Suicidy 2.0]

On 3/6/2025 at 1:42 PM, JMO said:

I know it's unpopular here, but I think James is a cute little handful, and exactly the kid Maxie would have.  If I'd been seeing him for his fracture, I would have stepped out of the room for a moment to laugh, and then gone in and been appropriately sympathetic with the parent.  This kid is going places, if he makes it to adulthood.

I guess it wasn't surprising that Lulu chose Carly to talk to.  She knows Carly was given to adoption by her bio mom, and might be able to share that perspective on it.  

Tracy. She could certainly have developed a relationship with Gio without having a blowup with Sonny, but considering Sonny will eventually come to be recognized as Gio's grandfather, maybe it's part of some elaborate set up.  Regardless, I like to see that relationship developing, and wish she was also working on one with each of the other kids in the house.  They don't need to have her play the bad guy to make her interesting; JE has that covered.

I forgot that Drew is Oscar's father.  Obviously the change in actors doesn't help, but it's more the change in Drew's personality.

Overall, I feel like something has happened with the show.  They seem to know which stories they want to tell now, and they're moving them forward with a momentum that has been missing for a long time.  I'm not a fan of all of these stories, but I appreciate the progress.  I hope they will become adept at integrating depth into the characters and conversations as well. 

Current Drew has zero resemblance to the original.  And I’m not talking about appearance.  There is no way a person like BM’s Drew turns into……THIS.  A complete shitweasel.

On 2/28/2025 at 8:51 PM, boes said:

Unforgivable, right?  And buying the little sprat one in green.  GREEN.  Goddam Quartermaines.  Next thing they'll want to be setting up a trust fund or some other horrible interfering thing.

I haven't been watching again long enough to have seen Sasha when she was apparently a rootable character.  All I've seen is a person dumb enough to choose Jason to be her pretend baby daddy while loudly condemning Willow for distancing her kids from the same people she wants to keep her kid away from.  And today, she basically said that she hates getting "charity" because ...... why, again?

I'm just hoping that when the truth about BK's baby burger comes out that she allows Monica to buy him a green sweater to match with the one she got for Sasha's kid.

Damn Quartermaines and their insistence on cute clothing.

When the truth comes out, AJ’s ghost should appear.  “Walk away!  Run if you have to young Gio!  Or you will share my fate!”

[TVbitch]

Jordon, you are supposed to wash your makeup off before you put the mask on! And no way she ate that insane mound of pasta and then went in for some ice cream. 

Dex 2.0 is a hottie, but I've seen more convincing sparing between these two...

 

Edited Friday at 11:14 PM by TVbitch

[Cheyanne11]

Holy crap, Lulu is a colossal asshole.  BL gave her way more grace than I would have.  

 

[dubbel zout]

51 minutes ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

When the truth comes out, AJ’s ghost should appear.  “Walk away!  Run if you have to young Gio!  Or you will share my fate!”

Gio's not fat, so he'll be fine.

[sacrebleu]

Joss's trainer needs a hair clip. He spent more time flipping his hair back than trying to land punches.