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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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Jane Elliott is having so much fun fake sparing with MEK that she almost broke out laughing.🤣 I much prefer to watch that than have her yell at Sasha (100% over that).

52 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I must have a heart of stone because I felt nothing for Brooke Lynn, crying that she can't carry Chase's baby and phoning her mother to come home and make her feel better. There are people in worse situations, much worse.

Same. Same. Same. Brooklyn looks to be in her late 30s to me and should’ve clued in before now, that babies might not be in her future.

I missed the part where she said she wanted to contact the child she gave up now that she can’t pop another, but way to be selfish and not think of how that could affect this child.

Also, not having children is not a bloody death sentence.

I’m fine with Carly/Brennan, but couldn’t evaluate the kiss chemistry as it was shot from too far off for me to tell.

Jason butting in and asking Sasha personal questions seemed out of character but recycled plot of him acting like the daddy. I guess I shouldn’t complain, it was 25 yrs ago or something… 

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29 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:
41 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
44 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Were Sam and Emma close, or is that the usual revisionist b.s.?

Usual Revisionist Bullshit.

Didn't Sam and Patrick live together for a while?  I feel like this isn't really that far off the mark that she would have fond memories of her.

I only just now remembered Sam and Patrick were a couple. D'oh! So of course she and Emma would have had a relationship.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

I must have a heart of stone because I felt nothing for Brooke Lynn, crying that she can't carry Chase's baby and phoning her mother to come home and make her feel better. There are people in worse situations, much worse.

I didn't feel anything either because the couple annoys the hell out of me with them their fully clothed sex. 

Plus I thought they had more chemistry when they were pretending to be Bailey's parents.

I also don't care about babies this and babies that. 

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absnow54

absnow54

I’ve been holding out hope that Cody was actually Gio’s father even though they’ve been heavily foreshadowing it’s Dante. But since they’re obviously pairing Gio with Emma, they wouldn’t do cousin lovin’ again so soon (even though they’d be second cousins.)

DZ and AH are really breathing new life into Dante/Lulu. I’ve never cared for the pairing much, but they’re settling into a nice chemistry. 

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Bringonthedrama

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34 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Were Sam and Emma close, or is that the usual revisionist b.s.?

I thought this was incredibly gross. As if being a mother to a nonbiological child is somehow less genuine an experience. I don't care that she's reeling from the news she (for now) won't have a child with Chase. 

 

31 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Usual Revisionist Bullshit.

Patrick and Sam were in a relationship and Sam moved with Danny into the Scorpio/Drake home when Emma and Danny were little kids, when Robin was away from Port Charles and (under duress) convinced Patrick that she no longer wanted a family life. I don't recall that Sam and Emma had many scenes together, but the writers had Anna being grateful to Sam for her pseudo- stepmother place in Emma's life and saying the house hadn't been Robin's in a long time.

Years later when Robin returned with Emma for the Nurse's Ball/to visit Anna, Robin saw Sam and said yes, I'm here with Emma, and Sam - instead of expressing gratitude for what Robin had sacrificed - ran off to catch up with Emma. 

My interpretation of BLQ's reaction is that she knows she can still be a mother through IVF, adoption, etc. and also knows Chase would support whatever she wants to do. However, for now at least she feels she doesn't want to be pregnant again/be a mother unless her husband is the biological father. 

I've seen all the comments about how BLQ's feelings about being a bio parent or being devastated are offensive, but I see it as realistic. A female colleague of my mother's was a mom to one child, yet was really determined (I thought obsessed) about having a second child. She and her husband spent significant money on fertility/exploring options, took time off from work, etc. to make it happen. She did not want to adopt. She did eventually get what she wanted. I also used to be friends with a woman who was told her first pregnancy to term/ healthy child was a lucky thing because of health issues. Another friend was there when this woman got a call from her doctor letting her know she was not pregnant for a second time. She said the woman was crushed. This woman yearned and prayed a lot to be pregnant again with her husband's baby and carry to term. They had a healthy son a few years later. 

What can I say, some people see having a baby that is biologically theirs as the ultimate sign of bonded commitment in marriage/love/real family. I've even heard a woman (not those mentioned above) say she hadn't considered adoption when struggling to start a family because she didn't think her husband's pride could handle it.

 

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14 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

DZ and AH are really breathing new life into Dante/Lulu. I’ve never cared for the pairing much, but they’re settling into a nice chemistry. 

I think AH is doing a great job as NuLulu; I mean, she is totally shrill and annoying and self centered, but thats Lulu, and she is doing a good job playing it.

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Auntie Velvet

Auntie Velvet

Three nascent GH couples have kicked off with the excruciating trope of bickering to romance -- Emma/Gio, Trina/Kai, and Tracy/Martin.

That's also how we got Chase/Brook Lynn, Joss/Dex (RIP), Carly/Jack, and probably the majority of other current or recently departed couples on the show.  To some extent it's classic romcom and soap fodder, but when that's ALL they know how to do, it's a bore.

I will say, however, that Gio is more interesting when he's sarcastic and skeptical.

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mostlylurking

mostlylurking

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5 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Didn't Sam and Patrick live together for a while?  I feel like this isn't really that far off the mark that she would have fond memories of her.

I completely forgot that even happened.  Leave it to these writers to not remember basic character traits but then they pull this out of their asses.

5 hours ago, Desperado said:
hours ago, statsgirl said:

I must have a heart of stone because I felt nothing for Brooke Lynn, crying that she can't carry Chase's baby and phoning her mother to come home and make her feel better. There are people in worse situations, much worse.

I agree with you but I think it’s pretty realistic in the moment for her to feel overwhelmed.  It’s certainly not a death sentence and she could still have a child via IVF with donor sperm but still.  It’s not the same.  As someone who had a lot of fertility issues it just hurts when you can’t have children the “normal” way, especially when you have people around you who seemingly sneeze and woops they’re pregnant!  And they weren’t even trying! (My personal fave 🙄)

Now the part where she suddenly wants to meet her ADULT child because she’s feeling sad and it’s a lot…..yeah.  That’s a bit much.

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

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So Sasha is worried about Willow finding out about her ONS/oopsiebaby with Michael because then Willow will use that to get full custody of her kids but also Sasha doesn't want the Qs anywhere near her baby but also helped the Qs keep Willow's kids away from her.  One set of rules for thee, another for me.  But her time will come when Carly Baby Hoarder finds out.  

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nilyank

nilyank

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

If only she had taken some courses at GH ... oh, wait.

She had actually had this situation happened before to her.

Years ago Stefan had strangled Lorenzo Alcazar becaused the Cassadines were broke and owed money to Alcazar who threatened to hurt Nikolas if they didn't pay him. (Dumb story that the Cassadines were broke)

Anyhow Carly found an almost dead Alcazar and she gave him CPR and saved life. 

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KerleyQ

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You know, there was a time I liked Sasha well enough, but damn if I can remember why at this point. 

She's standing there telling Jason that Willow can't know about the baby because she'll use Michael's cheating to get full custody. Yeah, gee, Sasha, it would really be cruel of Willow to have full custody of Michael's kids and not share them with him. Not like you who fully intends to share this baby with Michael.  Oh, wait, what's that? You're not? The hypocrisy. (Not to mention, Michael has video evidence of Willow's infidelity, so their cheating basically cancels each other out. If infidelity was actually a reason to lose custody in the first place, which it's not.)

Of course, that's all just bullshit, because the real reason you are keeping the baby's paternity a secret is to keep the baby from being too heavily influenced by the Q's or the mob. But, again, hypocrisy. So, Willow shouldn't get custody of her kids, and, instead, they should be kept by the Q's and Sonny/Carly, but you get to keep your kid away from all of them because you don't think that's an environment to raise kids in?  Fuck right off. 

Insert my regular reminder that I hate myself for liking Carly/Brennan here. LW has had chemistry with exactly three actors the entirety of her run as Carly - Ted King, Ingo Rademacher, and now Charles Mesure. 

For just a moment, when Emma was paying her respects to Dante about Sam, she was who you'd expect Emma to be. But then that was just an excuse for her to spar with Gio and Dante to witness it so he could get all paternal on the son he doesn't know is his. 

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CeChase

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17 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Didn't Sam and Patrick live together for a while?  I feel like this isn't really that far off the mark that she would have fond memories of her.

Yes, it makes me sad to see people saying it's a retcon.  I know many don't feel this way, but the way I loved Samtrick.  And they were engaged and had a sweet little family, and yes, Sam was a mother figure to Emma. 

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

14 minutes ago, CeChase said:

Yes, it makes me sad to see people saying it's a retcon.  I know many don't feel this way, but the way I loved Samtrick.  And they were engaged and had a sweet little family, and yes, Sam was a mother figure to Emma. 

I didn't forget that. And yes, they were good together as long as Patrick acknowledged that Jason was a "good" person and had to forget about all the contempt and hate he had for him when Jason was alive. Which he did. The one good thing I loved about Patrick was his hate/contempt for Mooby and Jason.

Because in the few returns original Emma made, we never saw her see Sam again, or I don't recall if she even asked about her.

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absnow54

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11 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

She's standing there telling Jason that Willow can't know about the baby because she'll use Michael's cheating to get full custody. Yeah, gee, Sasha, it would really be cruel of Willow to have full custody of Michael's kids and not share them with him. Not like you who fully intends to share this baby with Michael.  Oh, wait, what's that? You're not? The hypocrisy. (Not to mention, Michael has video evidence of Willow's infidelity, so their cheating basically cancels each other out. If infidelity was actually a reason to lose custody in the first place, which it's not.)

Of course, that's all just bullshit, because the real reason you are keeping the baby's paternity a secret is to keep the baby from being too heavily influenced by the Q's or the mob. But, again, hypocrisy. So, Willow shouldn't get custody of her kids, and, instead, they should be kept by the Q's and Sonny/Carly, but you get to keep your kid away from all of them because you don't think that's an environment to raise kids in?  Fuck right off. 

Seriously does she hear herself? Do the writers review their work with any level of self awareness? Sasha should be reluctantly empathetic of Willow’s situation or at least conflicted. Instead all we hear is how she needs to raise her baby on her own, while Willow is a monster for trying to protect her parental rights. 

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dubbel zout

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11 hours ago, nilyank said:

Anyhow Carly found an almost dead Alcazar and she gave him CPR and saved life. 

Can you blame her? Ted King was hot like fire (and still is).

11 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

If infidelity was actually a reason to lose custody in the first place, which it's not

This is so stupid. No one cares who you cheat with unless it's someone who will actively put any kids in danger. (Insert usual caveats about Sonny's lifestyle affecting all those around him.) Sasha has become as unpleasant as Drew with her hypocrisy.

11 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

But then that was just an excuse for her to spar with Gio and Dante to witness it so he could get all paternal on the son he doesn't know is his. 

I alternately laughed and rolled my eyes at how anvilcious that was. Subtle GH is not.

1 hour ago, CeChase said:

Yes, it makes me sad to see people saying [Sam/Patrick/Emma] a retcon.

As the poster who started this, I ask:  When was the last time we heard about Patrick and Sam living together? It's probably been more than a decade. And it's not as if Emma made any reference to that time when she was talking to Dante.

This comes across as defensive, and I definitely don't mean it to. I just want to explain where I'm coming from. It's the show's fault for not putting that conversation into context, especially when there's a recast and the character is evolving somewhat away from an earlier depiction.

 

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CeChase

CeChase

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Can you blame her? Ted King was hot like fire (and still is).

This is so stupid. No one cares who you cheat with unless it's someone who will actively put any kids in danger. (Insert usual caveats about Sonny's lifestyle affecting all those around him.) Sasha has become as unpleasant as Drew with her hypocrisy.

I alternately laughed and rolled my eyes at how anvilcious that was. Subtle GH is not.

As the poster who started this, I ask:  When was the last time we heard about Patrick and Sam living together? It's probably been more than a decade. And it's not as if Emma made any reference to that time when she was talking to Dante.

This comes across as defensive, and I definitely don't mean it to. I just want to explain where I'm coming from. It's the show's fault for not putting that conversation into context, especially when there's a recast and the character is evolving somewhat away from an earlier depiction.

 

They were my favorite Sam couple.  Even more than BM's Jason.   I just don't think many people remember or even liked them maybe?  So many Liason and Jasam fans, and then of course, Scrubs fans, so I am probably one of the few who viewed Samtrick as a beautiful love story.  

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driver18

driver18

IDGAF, I like Sasha and Jason.

Also, I don't think Sasha is being a hypocrite AT ALL about her and Willow. It's not different rules for me and thee. Their situations are completely different.

Willow CHOSE to enter into a marriage with Michael and be mother to his child full well knowing that the Qs and Sonny's world were part of the deal. Willow also CHOSE to have a child with Michael already knowing what it was like to have a child with the Qs as family, and being in Sonny's orbit with a child.

Now, Sasha is choosing to not bring her baby into the Q's world, or Sonny's orbit because she has seen firsthand the madness and danger that comes from such association.

Furthermore, Sasha knew Michael first, he has always been her first priority among the quad of those two, and Willow and Chase. Of course, she is going to do everything she can to protect Michael's interests.

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sashabear21

sashabear21

I'll be honest, I completely forgot Sam and Patrick were a couple, I was either on the barge at the time, or my memories of any non-Robin romance for Patrick have been completely overtaken by that godawful Sabrina storyline. And trust me, I'm angry at myself that that storyline is taking up any space in my brain.  

Boy is Olivia gonna be pissed when she finds out the best kept secret in Bensonhurst isn't her Nonna's lasagna recipe! 

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

45 minutes ago, CeChase said:

 I just don't think many people remember or even liked them maybe? 

Now that I remember Sam and Patrick happened (heh), I thought they were fine. But they were also so obviously placeholders for when Jason and Robin eventually returned. That's not the actors' fault, of course, but it did give them a temporary feel, which wasn't helped by the fact that they were together only about 18 months.

27 minutes ago, driver18 said:

Of course, she is going to do everything she can to protect Michael's interests.

Putting Michael's children's well-being first is protecting Michael's interests. And that means they should be with Willow. The kids already don't have their father; now they have to have limited contact with their mother because people hate who she's currently sleeping with?

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jsbt

jsbt

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A lot of people didn't like the Sam and Patrick pairing. Nonetheless, they did have a blended family at that time and I remember Emma and Sam being thick as thieves when Emma was shown, which was fairly often in that period (lest we forget the Ron Carlivati kid quad). When they broke up Emma had a complete and total meltdown and begged for her mother.

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CeChase

CeChase

45 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Now that I remember Sam and Patrick happened (heh), I thought they were fine. But they were also so obviously placeholders for when Jason and Robin eventually returned. That's not the actors' fault, of course, but it did give them a temporary feel, which wasn't helped by the fact that they were together only about 18 months.

 

Yes, you're right about that.  

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statsgirl

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Diane working hard to make sure that Willow's children are taken away from her as Michael remains in his medically-induced coma ... don't you have any other clients you can bother? And even if you get the children taken away, where are they going to live? With Sonny, currently in a hotel because his apartment was bombed? With Carly, currently in Germany banging Brennan? With Uncle Jason who seems to have forgotten that he even has a child of his own who lost his mother?  Surely you have other clients you can bother.

It took me a while to figure out why Diane would care if Robert was going to have another grandchild. Give up, Diane, he's already lost to you

Jason:  "I'm just trying to help, Sasha."  Really, badgering pregnant Sasha on behalf of Michael when you have no idea of his wishes in not helping.

Also Jason to Diane: "So what I have to tell you needs attorney/client privilege." [So let me tell you in the middle of a busy and popular restaurant.]

Jason is acting like Michael is 5 years old and needs to be protected. He and Carly both infantalize thirtysomething Michael while telling everyone what a brilliant and strong businessman he is.

Lulu tell Maxie that Rocco is mourning losing Sam. Hey Lulu, maybe if you, his actual mother, spent any time with him at all, he wouldn't be feeling so bad.

I am no fan of Olivia but I think that she should have been given the opportunity to raise Dante's child with him if he wanted to. Great best friend that Lois is.

Brennan is already lying to Carly and hiding things from her (e.g. that he tried to kill Valentin first). Way to pick 'em, Carly.

17 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Three nascent GH couples have kicked off with the excruciating trope of bickering to romance -- Emma/Gio, Trina/Kai, and Tracy/Martin.

Based on today, you can add Cody/Molly to that list.

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Head's up to anyone in the 3 p.m. viewing audience: Right now there's an NTSB briefing on the terrible aviation accident in D.C. So far no note that there show will air tonight on the app.

The show aired here where I live in MD, except for the last six minutes when the news interrupted with the NTSB briefing "to follow" so I'll probably catch the last few minutes tonight.

Hoo Boy. Jason, mind your own fucking bidnez and get back to your own child.

Going back, I'm glad that Lulu at least conceded and accepted that Anna shooting her spawn was an accident and doesn't blame her. I thought for sure she was going to start screaming at her when she opened her mouth about how Anna shot her kid.

And why Portia kept saying "patient" instead of just telling Anna (before she asked for the names) who got the overdoses, just irritated me. Look, you're talking to the police finally, yet this scene seemed off. Block taping issue? Because two days ago or was it earlier in the week, Portia already said the PCPD had been looped in. Yet this conversation with Anna came off like she's just NOW looping them in.

And Sasha can also STFU and jump in the pier or river off the deck of her cottage. Dollars to donuts Cody is thinking Jaysus is the father, will get drunk, announce it to all and sundry and the Metro Court when he gets there, and also try to throw a punch at Jason. Maybe not even get drunk.

UGH. Can't they recast Emma again? I can't stand this actress' voice, how she talks and she's just.NOT.Emma.

And yes, I call BULLSHIT on her having not one, but TWO dogs. Because for sure, when we saw wee Emma when she would visit Anna, she would totally talk about the doggies she had in California. Because she sure as HELL didn't have any in Port Charles.

1 hour ago, CeChase said:

They were my favorite Sam couple.  Even more than BM's Jason.   I just don't think many people remember or even liked them maybe? 

I didn't, because as @jsbt stated, they were placeholders for Robin (for me at least, because we knew Robin was still alive and being held prisoner); plus Patrick was defanged when he got involved with her. Gone was his contempt and hatred for all things mob, Mooby, and Jason. That was NOT Patrick.

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statsgirl

statsgirl

8 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 Dollars to donuts Cody is thinking Jaysus is the father, will get drunk, announce it to all and sundry and the Metro Court when he gets there, and also try to throw a punch at Jason. Maybe not even get drunk.

He didn't need to get drunk -- he told Maxie and Lulu in ordinary conversation when he saw Jason leaving after having talked to Diane.

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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11 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

He didn't need to get drunk -- he told Maxie and Lulu in ordinary conversation when he saw Jason leaving after having talked to Diane.

That must have happened when the show was interrupted.

Shame. I really thought he would, the way he exploded over Jaysus to Molly.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

18 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

The show aired here where I live in MD, except for the last six minutes when the news interrupted with the NTSB briefing "to follow" so I'll probably catch the last few minutes tonight.

I do too and I was shocked the Show was on at all. However, it cut off abruptly at about 2:45 for the NTSB briefing. I used to fly out of DCA and I'm familiar with the Army due to work, so I cared more about the news report than watching the Show anyway.

7 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

In NYC, at least, David Muir is still yammering. Perhaps affiliates can choose how much of a news interruption to show.

I wonder if this is the case. With 64 civilians and 3 soldiers presumed dead, the extended news coverage is not surprising. This is a terrible tragedy for the DMV and Kansas.

The only thing that made me sort of smile today was when Maxie corrected Lulu that no, Jason always looks serious. 

dubbel zout

dubbel zout

In NYC we ended up getting the last half of the show.

LOL that Jason thinks he can go to Germany and talk to Michael without Carly sniffing him out. If he's anywhere near her, she has an internal tracker that will find him. It's gross Jason thinks Sasha might be lying that she and Michael agreed she would raise the kid by herself. At least Diane made the point that Michael had ample chance to tell her and make arrangements.

You know, Chase, your problems are as important to you as Dante's are to him. Maybe you're not ready to talk yet, but don't diminish your concerns. I hate when people do that.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

You know, Chase, your problems are as important to you as Dante's are to him. Maybe you're not ready to talk yet, but don't diminish your concerns. I hate when people do that.

I agree, but I don't think Chase is in a rush to tell anyone that he is sterile. He might have spoken to Finn, but they got rid of him.

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Desperado

Desperado

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Brennan is already lying to Carly and hiding things from her (e.g. that he tried to kill Valentin first). Way to pick 'em, Carly.

I don’t think Colette took the shot under his orders, the show is leaving him gray for now. Although since I can’t stand Valentin, either options are good for me.

So Jason is going to Germany to wake up “in excruciating pain Michael” to ask him what to do about a 3-month along pregnancy? 

Make. it. Stop.

This Brooklyn/Dante baby thing would’ve worked better if Lois never knew who the father was.

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statsgirl

statsgirl

13 minutes ago, Desperado said:

So Jason is going to Germany to wake up “in excruciating pain Michael” to ask him what to do about a 3-month along pregnancy?

At the risk of repeating myself, I hate how Jason and Carly treat Michael as if he is 3 years old instead of his mid thirties and able to make up his own mind. It's not impressive.

Colette took the shot on her own initiative (was she carrying around that rifle for fun?) but Valentin specifically told Brennan that he was choking him because someone from the WSB had tried to kill him. Brennan didn't tell Carly that part, leaving her the impression that Valentin's attempt came out of nowhere and Brennan himself is blameless.

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driver18

driver18

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Putting Michael's children's well-being first is protecting Michael's interests. And that means they should be with Willow. The kids already don't have their father; now they have to have limited contact with their mother because people hate who she's currently sleeping with?

That is not what she said to Jason. Her concern is that if Willow finds out, she'll use that info to get sole custody as opposed to joint custody... when Michael returns.

dubbel zout

dubbel zout

42 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I don't think Chase is in a rush to tell anyone that he is sterile.

He's not, and that's fine. And that's what he told Dante. My beef is that he's making his problems less grave than Dante's. They're not. Perspective is good, but he shouldn't downplay big issues just because he thinks someone else is worse off. It's not a competition. It's not as if Chase would be whining that his diamond shoes are too tight and his wallet's too small for his $50s.

9 minutes ago, driver18 said:

[Sasha's] concern is that if Willow finds out, she'll use that info to get sole custody as opposed to joint custody... when Michael returns.

With Michael in a coma, Willow essentially does have sole custody. Making it legal for the time being to keep the Qs and Corinthii from meddling (as if, but you know what I mean) isn't a bad idea. And I doubt Willow wouldn't allow Michael custody when/if he does return. Everyone is acting as if Willow is using the kids as a weapon when it's everyone else using them against her.

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