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Charlene: "Julia, you can't be in here! This room is for belles only; y'all aren't belles."

Julia: "Oh yes we are. We're Hell's Belles and we're getting you out of here."

 

I just saw this episode as well! I loved the part where they went to rescue Charlene and Suzanne put on her best Helen Paterson Von Patten to distract DeeDee. I kept thinking how over-the-top DeeDee was but I have been accosted by several Mary Kay Ladies at various stores and they really do try their best to be persuasive and I can see how someone can get sucked in because they make it sound like an amazing business opportunity. I loved how Charlene warned Mary Jo and Julia not to go to the supermarket once the convention started.

 

I wonder if this is what sparked the whole "I want to quit the gym" thing from Friends! 

 

I FINALLY saw the "some white girl" episode. I need to work that into every day conversation.

This is my favorite quote, mainly because of the way Delta Burke said, "Don't you people ever READ?" 

 

Suzanne: Haven't you ever heard of Darwin?
Julia: You mean Darwin Sanders? The man who used to take care of our lawn?
Suzanne: No, Silly, Charles Darwin. Don't you people ever read?
Julia: Yes, Suzanne, yes. We do. But you don't, so I thought... well... go on.

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I always liked Mary Jo, but then I loved the core four (Alison was awful, Carlene was okay, BJ was good too, perhaps the show would have lasted longer had BJ taken come in earlier). I just never understood why they always had her dress so poorly. Sometimes her outfits are positively distracting in the worst possible way.

One of my favorite Charlene moments was when Suzanne was trying to get her to put a baby wig on Olivia. They're all sitting on the sofa, and Suzanne whips the wig out of her purse. I don't know why, but the way Jean Smart delivered her next line always cracks me up. She gave a horrified gasp, and then said, "What is that??" It was like she thought Suzanne had pulled a rat out of her purse.

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I thought Mary Jo had great character growth over the course of the series (although I can't really speak for the Allison/BJ years -- didn't watch those). She started out as this kind of shy, mousy doormat, and then by the last season before the cast change, she had evolved into a pretty self confident person. She seemed much more comfortable with herself.

I found Charlene and Bill treacly, so I went into the "Charlene goes to meet Bill's family" storyline figuring I'd be suffering through those scenes while waiting for the show to get back to the others, but I wound up getting a huge kick out of it.  I love Charlene in that episode.

 

I also love Charlene buried up to her elbows in thousand island dressing.

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I also feel like I need to get something off my chest: I know it's usually picked as a "Fan Favorite" episode, but I hate "Dash Goff: The Writer". I find it unbearably boring.

 

I'm not taken by that one, either.  When I listen to anyone read Dash's work, instead of sitting there captivated, I shrug and think, "No wonder his writing career is floundering."

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I found Charlene and Bill treacly, so I went into the "Charlene goes to meet Bill's family" storyline figuring I'd be suffering through those scenes while waiting for the show to get back to the others, but I wound up getting a huge kick out of it.  I love Charlene in that episode.

Isn't that the one where Julia goes to a keg party?  I loved their phone conversation--especially when Julia said she had to go because someone was going to drink out of a funnel. 

 

I liked Charlene and Bill.  The scene that really touched me, though, was when Julia was talking to Bill about Charlene having enough room in her heart for him and Nancy. 

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Oh, my, how I love this show. 

 

So many great episodes mentioned, but I always love the one where Charlene gives birth. It's NYE, and they're in the hospital. Julia wanders into Effie's room, and she talks about being from Brownsville, TN. My mom's family is from Brownsville. We moved there when I was 10, and my mom and grandmother still lived there. I was probably 12, or so, when that episode aired, and I was always so carried away about the mention of my tiny hometown. 

 

Also, the Sugarbaker house is actually in Little Rock. It was my college roommate's mom's office. 

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Oh no!  Jan Hooks was so good; she could always elevate even mediocre material.  Even though DW dropped off when she joined, I knew it was just an unfortunate coincidence.  I loved Carlene as a character.  I still sometimes celebrate moments of triumph in my personal life with her theme song.  "Doing it the best I can; giving it the best I go-o-ooot! Flying on the wings of my dreams; doing it the best I can!"  It's such sad news.

My favourite rant of hers is probably the one in The Candidate when she has the debate with Wilson Brickett and finally loses her cool. Also the one when she ends up having to do jury duty and loses it with her fellow jurors because she's desperate to get out so she can go and have dinner with the Carters and the vote keeps stalling. "Are you intending to mime your vote?"

Someone mentioned recently how hard it is to deal with people who are bad communicators, those folks whose stories ramble and meander and never really come to a point. I said I wished I could be like Julia Sugarbaker and bark out, "Charlene! Does this story have a point?!" and got a pretty good laugh. But, geez, that would make life so much easier.

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I know this may sound like a funny question but I can't help but wonder.  In the episode "Manhunt" Mary Jo says she feels foolish wearing eyeliner in broad daylight.  Am I the only one who never thought of eyeliner as a nighttime thing?

Well, she did have a ten pound bag of dog food and a big ole package of Kotex in her cart. : ))

I've been watching some first season episodes lately, and I am so glad they dropped the recurring storyline where gullible Charlene does something monumentally stupid despite everyone around her pointing out she's being taken advantage of, all her friends have to help clean up the resulting mess, she declares she's never going to trust anyone again, and someone objects, giving a speech on how wonderful it is that she assumes the best of everyone.

 

The absolute worst of this era for me is the one where they all get arrested in that warehouse of stolen goods because of Charlene's latest guy.  They're in jail, and she's still babbling on about his innocence.  Then he's arrested for the same thing in Chicago with a rap sheet a mile long, they wind up with police protection because they're being threatened with death if they testify, and Charlene a) protests that, no, when she visited the guy in jail he explained that his friend making those threats is just a big ol' practical joker, so everything is okay, you see, he's just upset at the idea of their testifying because it "makes him sound guilty" and b) refuses to testify because she doesn't want to get him in trouble. 

 

I start liking her so much more in season two, and then they bring in Bill.  They're great for each other, but I hate watching sickly sweet "schmoopy" people, so I don't enjoy watching their relationship except for the humorous moments.  But on her own, I can finally enjoy Charlene's hilarious comments and musings.

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I just discovered this board for the first time!  Designing Women is one of my all time favorite funny shows.  I used to watch reruns right about the time hubby would get home from work, he would get out of his truck and hear me laughing all the way up the sidewalk to the house.  Good times.

 

Mary Jo's "these things are POWER!" speech is right up there with one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

 

More favorite moments -

 

The team is hired to redecorate Monique's brothel and a man tries to "hire" Julia.  And then later one finally propositions Suzanne and she applauds one of them finally having taste as she saunters out.  LMAO.

 

Charlene threatens to tell Bill's snooty mother and aunt that HER family was on the Ark (after they rub it in that their family was on the Mayflower).

 

Julia's classmate's dying wish is to have one night with her before he dies.  Reese's response is classic:  "We're all dying."

 

Anthony and Suzanne get Consuela's green card.  "A six-foot black man dressed as Hazel" leaves me in hysterics every time.

 

Suzanne and Julia finally finding their birth certificates (to prove Suzanne's age on her birthday) and realize their mother has been changing the dates anyway.  "Mother is now a year younger than me."  hahahahaha

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Ahhh, thanks everyone for making me suppress laughter to the point that it hurts.  (Hubby is already asleep.)

 

One that I didn't see mentioned but makes me laugh to the point of tears in my eyes:

 

SUZANNE:  (after learning that the milk she put in her coffee was expressed breast milk)  I certainly didn't drink it!  What do you think I am, some kind of pervert?!

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