S06.E17: Bury the Hatchet

[Lola16]

 

Heather and Kristen continue to spar even while "glamping" until the ladies attempt to bury the hatchet, literally.

 

Sneak peek aired. 

 

Ramona drunkenly falls off a chair and blames someone else. 

 

Heather wears an animal she trapped and skinned herself.

 

Sonja wants to stay in bed.  Then she meets a young male worker.

 

Kristen cries by herself.

 

Carole goes to comfort Kristen and remembers why she didn't have kids.

 

LuAnn tries to remind herself that she is getting paid for this.

[walnutqueen]

So the girls go glamping.  Ramona actually wants to go, if only to proclaim it "not as nice as South Africa".  Heather wants to stop at their cabin door to take in the view.  Ramona says there is no view because of all the trees in the way.  Sonja passed out in her "bathing suit" and managed to make me cringe within about 2 seconds of her meeting the unfortunately underpaid 2 cowboy butlers.  Kristen and Heather continue their argument.  Luann is wearing a bitchin' coat that only an Indian pirate could carry off.  Did I miss anything? 

[zoeysmom]

I thought Ramona going back to the cabin and putting out a big spread is just what the women needed.  Her trip Dick Vandyke style over the ottoman was funny-but only because she wasn't hurt and then she come up with the errant boot. 

 

I felt for Carole having to listen to Kristen fake sob and claim how exhausted she was.  Really Kristen?  You are exhausted raising your children, you are exhausted from calling the front desk and ordering up some activities for the women?  Here is an idea-why not ask them what they want to do?  I think Kristen chose the location so she could break out some cute costume clothes.  Each event calls for a new costume.  She ought to be careful with the in the massive fur coat she is wearing-she might be mistaken for an mama bear looking for a mate.

Edited June 27, 2014 by zoeysmom

[Lola16]

I suggest some vitamin B for Kristen.

[MatildaMoody]

 

I think Kristen choice the location so she could break out some cute costume clothes.  Each event calls for a new costume.

I am curious about whether or not Kristen even had a say in the trip? I always thought that these destinations were producer induced and paid for. Mainly, because the cast is shooting 24-7 during these trips, I can't imagine that one of the HW actually plans and pays for anything. 

 

Even though that was actually Heather's house in the Berkshires, I didn't think that she was the one who actually suggested and planned the trip. Same with the Morocco trip. Sonja and Luann putting a trip like that together for all of the women?

 

Luann possibly could have, but we know Sonja couldn't have and yet the story line suggested that it was trip planned by the both of them.

[Lola16]

Planning and paying aren't the same thing.  I'm planning a trip for 5 gfs this August and while I'm putting down the deposit, I'm not footing the entire bill.  Of course, I'm not getting paid to be there either but that's OK - no video allowed!

[MatildaMoody]

 

Planning and paying aren't the same thing.  I'm planning a trip for 5 gfs this August and while I'm putting down the deposit, I'm not footing the entire bill.  Of course, I'm not getting paid to be there either but that's OK - no video allowed!

That's a fair point. I'm just really curious about how much input the women actually have in where they are going for these trips. 

[Mozelle]

I was thinking about that earlier. I think the women are asked (told) to choose a destination and to come up with a tentative itinerary. Bravo very likely (highly likely, in fact) foots the bill for flight and lodging and meals (and the payment of instructors for whatever activities), and the woman who is the "hostess" creates a list of activities that she's probably researched would be good to do in the location. The only reason why I believe the women who host are told to generate of list of things to do is because of the way they get sooooo upset when the other women don't play along. 

 

I'm not even talking about Kristen this trip. Heather at the Berkshire. LuAnn in Morocco. (Has Ramona hosted anything yet?) I think that one would only get annoyed/bothered if they were taking ownership of the activities. So, it makes them think that what they suggested wasn't cool/fun/awesome enough, and then they get pissed at the others for doing their own thing.

[MatildaMoody]

 

Has Ramona hosted anything yet?

Ramona hosted the very first one. Scary Island was Ramona's "Renewal" trip. And, I think BRAVO has been trying to re-kindle that magic ever since. They came close with Aviva last season.

 

Are they going to do a full on destination trip this year? So far all of these outings have been more like weekend getaways rather than a full on cast trip.

Edited June 27, 2014 by MatildaMoody

[zoeysmom]

Ramona hosted the very first one. Scary Island was Ramona's "Renewal" trip. And, I think BRAVO has been trying to re-kindle that magic ever since. They came close with Aviva last season.

 

Are they going to do a full on destination trip this year? So far all of these outings have been more like weekend getaways rather than a full on cast trip.

The trip to Montana is the biggie. One can usually tell by the number of episodes it takes to cover it.  Supposedly it is a week long.  I think that is why they made such a big deal of Aviva backing out.  They needed her there to ensure drama. 

 

My understanding of the RH trips is the production staff sniffs around and finds freebies.  Then one woman is appointed "hostess" how much input she has probably varies.   Ramona was definitely in charge in St. John's and really did go out of her way to make it a great trip.  Too bad Jill and LuAnn passed on it.  Kristen it seems from her declarations of "exhaustion" probably worked with production selecting activities.  I don't think Kristen really canceled  dinner out on the town-I think that was probably a production decision due to logistics.  I get the impression some of these ladies wanted a little less structure.  Easy to do if you are in St. Barths or on a yacht a lot more difficult if you are in Montana,

 

It is unfortunate there were no international trips this year.  My guess is that since it was filmed during the summer the freebies were probably less bountiful or places like the Caribbean would be considered not during the season.

 

Here is the schedule for the rest of the season with a description of the episode.  The Reunion Part 1 airs July 29th.  http://www.zap2it.com/tv/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/episodes/SH010309010000

Edited June 27, 2014 by zoeysmom

[featherhead]

Did my eyes deceive me or was the Countess drinking beer from a Bottle??  Is this the world we live in??

[MatildaMoody]

Did my eyes deceive me or was the Countess drinking beer from a Bottle??  Is this the world we live in??

Well, we now know that she eats potato chips from the economy sized bag. What will Michelle Obama say?

[LilaFowler]

Economy chips + beer from a bottle = slut!

[Rhetorica]

The trip to Montana is the biggie. One can usually tell by the number of episodes it takes to cover it. Supposedly it is a week long. I think that is why they made such a big deal of Aviva backing out. They needed her there to ensure drama.

My understanding of the RH trips is the production staff sniffs around and finds freebies. Then one woman is appointed "hostess" how much input she has probably varies. Ramona was definitely in charge in St. John's and really did go out of her way to make it a great trip. Too bad Jill and LuAnn passed on it. Kristen it seems from her declarations of "exhaustion" probably worked with production selecting activities. I don't think Kristen really canceled dinner out on the town-I think that was probably a production decision due to logistics. I get the impression some of these ladies wanted a little less structure. Easy to do if you are in St. Barths or on a yacht a lot more difficult if you are in Montana,

It is unfortunate there were no international trips this year. My guess is that since it was filmed during the summer the freebies were probably less bountiful or places like the Caribbean would be considered not during the season.

Here is the schedule for the rest of the season with a description of the episode. The Reunion Part 1 airs July 29th. http://www.zap2it.com/tv/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/episodes/SH010309010000

I've been watching this for 16 weeks?! Oh my lord, Iike Jill, I need a hobby.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Rhetorica

[Persnickety1]

Ramona hosted the very first one. Scary Island was Ramona's "Renewal" trip. And, I think BRAVO has been trying to re-kindle that magic ever since. They came close with Aviva last season.

 

Are they going to do a full on destination trip this year? So far all of these outings have been more like weekend getaways rather than a full on cast trip.

 

If they had left the film rolling when Sonja launched into her "Potato Ships" rant, they might have had a really close runner up to Scary Island.

 

I'm hoping they did leave the film rolling and they're saving it as our special little treat during the unseen footage episode (which I assume they're going to have after the reunion).  I'd love to see what batshit crazy/drunken Sonja revealed once Luann had left the table.  

Here is the schedule for the rest of the season with a description of the episode.  The Reunion Part 1 airs July 29th.  http://www.zap2it.com/tv/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/episodes/SH010309010000

 

What the fresh hell is THIS shit courtesy of Aviva:

 

 

E18

Something to Sing About

Aviva decides she needs a break from the group; Heather and Luanne are slated to sing at a jazz bar.

07/08/2014 9:00PM Tue

 

Hasn't this harpy been on a break pretty much this entire season from the group?  Oh, this episode will be highly entertaining, I can tell already.

 

I hope the door hits Aviva really hard in her ass on her way out the Bravo door.  

Edited June 28, 2014 by Persnickety1

[hoodooznoodooz]

Heather was pretty antagonistic in that last scene, where they are about to go glamping, and Kristin protests Heather addressing her as "bitch". The smile on Heather's face was a little creepy. I like Heather most of the time. I am guessing that they are all getting a little stressed out and tired.

Carole was very sweet, trying to comfort Kristin.

Ramona's hair looked like a rat's nest when she was setting up the beer and snacks.

[tulip555]

Economy chips + beer from a bottle = slut!

LOL!!

[Lola16]

If they had left the film rolling when Sonja launched into her "Potato Ships" rant, they might have had a really close runner up to Scary Island.

 

I'm hoping they did leave the film rolling and they're saving it as our special little treat during the unseen footage episode (which I assume they're going to have after the reunion).  I'd love to see what batshit crazy/drunken Sonja revealed once Luann had left the table.  

 

I don't.  Sonja doesn't value friendships and she's not above making stuff up nor does she care how damaging it might be to others.  Hearing her blather on about crap in attempt to cause someone else pain (simply because she's jealous), doesn't interest me in the least. 

[Persnickety1]

I don't.  Sonja doesn't value friendships and she's not above making stuff up nor does she care how damaging it might be to others.  Hearing her blather on about crap in attempt to cause someone else pain (simply because she's jealous), doesn't interest me in the least. 

 

Sonja was so derailed by the time she made the "Potato Ships" comment that she might have started divulging other nuggets, such as Luann uses coupons or double-fists bacon cheeseburgers on the regular or uses Suave shampoo or shops at Family Dollar incognito every Saturday morning.  

 

I didn't think anyone was taking anything Sonja said seriously after she pulled the economy bag of "potato ships" comment out of her drunken ass.  

 

Ramona better watch her back or the next time Sonja's drunk she might start revealing Deep Dark Singer Secrets, like Ramona touches up her own hair color every 2 weeks or doesn't recycle her cans.  

[zoeysmom]

LuAnn is no angel in the gossip department.  She delighted in making comments about Sonja not going to dinner because she was afraid her house would be taken.  Far more hurtful then not condemning a facialist for talking idle gossip.  What damage does it do to LuAnn's reputation if someone saw her at Le Cirque with a short Frenchman?  Especially because she was dating a Frenchman shorter than she was.  The woman didn't say LuAnn was running around naked at Le Cirque with a short Frenchman. LuAnn wants it all the respect of others and being able to let her hair down.  We all saw her in St. Barth's-not exactly the actions of a sweet and pure innocent woman.  Wasn't it she that said she'll never change when asking her friend for an alibi?

[tulip555]

Heather was pretty antagonistic in that last scene, where they are about to go glamping, and Kristin protests Heather addressing her as "bitch". The smile on Heather's face was a little creepy. I like Heather most of the time. I am guessing that they are all getting a little stressed out and tired.

Carole was very sweet, trying to comfort Kristin.

Ramona's hair looked like a rat's nest when she was setting up the beer and snacks.

thing is.... how people behave under stress, IMO, says a lot about them....you've got to be able to withstand the temptations to cope with it by taking it out on others.

[FozzyBear]

LuAnn is no angel in the gossip department. She delighted in making comments about Sonja not going to dinner because she was afraid her house would be taken. Far more hurtful then not condemning a facialist for talking idle gossip. What damage does it do to LuAnn's reputation if someone saw her at Le Cirque with a short Frenchman? Especially because she was dating a Frenchman shorter than she was. The woman didn't say LuAnn was running around naked at Le Cirque with a short Frenchman. LuAnn wants it all the respect of others and being able to let her hair down. We all saw her in St. Barth's-not exactly the actions of a sweet and pure innocent woman. Wasn't it she that said she'll never change when asking her friend for an alibi?

I think if Sonjia and Kristen hadn't been such bitches about the gossiping estatithian Luanne might not have been so upset. First Kristen has to run so fast to tell Carol and Luanne that she doesn't even have time to put a bra on. Then when she does tell them it's with her normal SCANDALIZED face. Then when Luanne brings it up to Sonjia both Sonjia and Kristen just brush her off. I don't think it was the gossip so much as Sonjia not correcting things she knew to be untrue (like the Russ thing. She could have just laughed and said "oh that never happened" at the time) and both Kristen and Sonjia sort of acting all coy about the whole thing instead of just apologizing.

Edited June 28, 2014 by FozzyBear

[Aspenemptynest]

Heather was pretty antagonistic in that last scene, where they are about to go glamping, and Kristin protests Heather addressing her as "bitch". The smile on Heather's face was a little creepy. I like Heather most of the time. I am guessing that they are all getting a little stressed out and tired.

Carole was very sweet, trying to comfort Kristin.

Ramona's hair looked like a rat's nest when she was setting up the beer and snacks.

Ok, I keep seeing references to these scenes but I haven't seen them. The bravo website only has the rodeo and the hatchet throwing. Where are you seeing this preview?

[jennylauren123]

Aspenemptynest, a First Look came on last night. I'm sorry that you missed it!

[ryebread]

The smile on Heather's face was a little creepy.

This.  I saw the re-run of Heather following Ramona around that party last season, with the evil jack o' lantern grin and getting all up in Ramona's grill. 'Creepy' was the word that came to mind. And 'stalky'.  And aggressive.  And intrusive.

 

When Heather feels wronged maybe, for a change, she should try to let it go, let it goOoooo.... 

 

Heather and Luanne are slated to sing at a jazz bar.

I'll bet Heather is awesome at jazz singing, too.

 

First Kristen has to run so fast to tell Carol and Luanne that she doesn't even have time to out a bra on.

Ha!!

[zoeysmom]

If they had left the film rolling when Sonja launched into her "Potato Ships" rant, they might have had a really close runner up to Scary Island.

 

I'm hoping they did leave the film rolling and they're saving it as our special little treat during the unseen footage episode (which I assume they're going to have after the reunion).  I'd love to see what batshit crazy/drunken Sonja revealed once Luann had left the table.  

 

What the fresh hell is THIS shit courtesy of Aviva:

 

Hasn't this harpy been on a break pretty much this entire season from the group?  Oh, this episode will be highly entertaining, I can tell already.

 

I hope the door hits Aviva really hard in her ass on her way out the Bravo door.  

I think Aviva painted herself into the Adrienne Maloof corner and just checked out.  Adrienne pretty much quit after the Brandi outing her surrogacy disaster and Aviva dug her own grave after the book controversy.  There was no coming back for Aviva.  I think things were helped along when Heather set her up for not inviting her to her anniversary party.  In addition to her hundreds of other phobias and illnesses it was like she developed a case of  leprosy.

 

I for one will not miss her or her father.  I hope Harry sticks around.

[LilaFowler]

LuAnn is no angel in the gossip department.  She delighted in making comments about Sonja not going to dinner because she was afraid her house would be taken. 

Oh God I laughed so hard at that, though.

[Souvlaki]

When I heard the episode title, I inwardly groaned (knowing Bravo) and thought "Just please not literally." 

 

The axe, I mean.  I don't know what they're doing with it, chopping wood, swinging it at each other... oh, right, the target practice, der.  I hope. 

 

[David Attenborough voice]

 

The 'Real Housewives' creature usually prepares for a long arduous journey in many ways, facialist gossip and the proper underwear or lack thereof become even more crucial.  During this grueling task they opt instead of good dining, to feast upon the emotions of the perceived weakest of the pack for sustenance, and are careful, surrounded by a wealth of accommodations, to mock them all, and to also whine, preferably with the inclusion of (an inexpensive) wine, and definitely most preferably with one's name on the bottle, perhaps so the HW can remember it, after they've drained it for fuel on this quest.  The most popular cup for the HW creature to have to drink from is plastic, not glass, we're told.  The 'Real Housewives' usually do some made up ceremonial "cleansing" in the end, everyone should know to walk away saying positive things, because all is well, all is  forgiven, until the next episode or reunion, where they now feel rested & renewed enough after the trip to wake and rise in the morning to fight, stir, and gossip to make it through another day yet again.

 

I'm looking forward to Heather and Luann's little rendezvous with jazz singing, I hope I read that right, haha.  That seems like it should be some fun.

Edited June 29, 2014 by Souvlaki

[hoodooznoodooz]

tulip555: I totally agree with you, about how the way we behave while under stress vs how we should behave.

ryebread: YES. aggressive. That is exactly how to describe Heather's smile and attitude. (By the way, I find myself agreeing with just about everything you post.)

[motorcitymom65]

I seriously doubt the HW's have much to do with planning any of this stuff, although some might involve themselves in the process more than others. Can anyone actually picture Kristen doing the work that would be involved in putting something like this together? I was struck last year when they went to St Barth's, which was Carole's gig. When she was touring the property with the manager, she came to the villa where she and Heather ended up staying. When she saw it she realized that it was the same villa she and Anthony had stayed in years before with her MIL. She seemed quite moved to find herself back in the same place. It is impossible for me to believe that had she actually been surfing the web hunting for appropriate vacation spots that she wouldn't have realized she had been there before.

The fact is that someone like Ramona, who is demanding and near impossible to please, probably would get more involved if for no other reason than she would want to make sure she was going to be catered to in the manner she deems necessary.

My grandfather is a giant asshole most of the time, but he is a fairly rich guy who demands constant lavish treatment to be happy. Most of the time no one in the family can stand him, but if he is hosting a trip or a dinner, we are more than happy to get an invitation. The food will be incredible and the accommodations off the chart because nothing less would make him happy. The rest of us reap those rewards and suddenly his obnoxiousness it much more tolerable. This is Ramona to her core.

[Souvlaki]

Very insightful post, MotorCityMom65.   I hadn't recalled Carole's surprise at the very location she was 'hosting' until you mentioned it.  I wonder if anyone who follows Alex McCord's (sp?) vlog has known her to shed any more light on what 'hosting' exactly entails.

[windowshopper]

For someone who bitches about what sub-par hosts these girls are, has Sonja ever hosted a trip? Shouldn't she be taking them to one of her glorious properties?

Edited July 1, 2014 by windowshopper

[archer1267]

Ramona planned St. Barth's and I've got to say, I would have gladly put up with Kelly to be there. But each of the guests had also planned something special for the group to do (Bethenny cooking, Kelly taking beach portraits, Sonja organizing mani/pedis, Alex doing...something). I don't think this has happened on other trips (?) and maybe would have been better if the onus was put on each woman to find something to do in Montana. (Not that the itinerary would have changed hella much.)

 

For someone who bitches about what sub-par hosts these girls are, has Sonja ever hosted a trip? Shouldn't she be taking them to one of her glorious properties?

 

I've wondered that too, and wish Bravo still enabled blog comments for that reason. Sonja talks a good game about being the hostess with the mostest, but I keep thinking of the party she arranged for Reid and Aviva, and how there was very little food. There were other issues I can't remember - I just remember guests being hungry, thirsty, and wondering what the heck was going on.

 

Sonja used to be my favorite, but the woman can't even pack underwear for a trip without help. She's going to pull a trip together? Please.

Edited July 1, 2014 by archer1267

[Almost 3000]

Sonja's Martha Stewart skills have always seemed pretty suspect to me. Even when she hires professionals or uses interns to help she still can't pull together a tight event. Just look at her disordered web site and you get a taste of how messy her planning really is.

[motorcitymom65]

Ramona planned St. Barth's and I've got to say, I would have gladly put up with Kelly to be there. But each of the guests had also planned something special for the group to do (Bethenny cooking, Kelly taking beach portraits, Sonja organizing mani/pedis, Alex doing...something). I don't think this has happened on other trips (?) and maybe would have been better if the onus was put on each woman to find something to do in Montana. (Not that the itinerary would have changed

 

Sonja used to be my favorite, but the woman can't even pack underwear for a trip without help. She's going to pull a trip together? Please.

Ramona planned St. John's in Season 3, which was Scary Island with Kelly. Carole planned St. Barth's last year. I had forgotten that on the St Johns trip each gal was responsible for an activity, which was very cool. I think they did something similar in Morocco? I agree this would have made Montana much more entertaining.

[FozzyBear]

Ramona planned St. John's in Season 3, which was Scary Island with Kelly. Carole planned St. Barth's last year. I had forgotten that on the St Johns trip each gal was responsible for an activity, which was very cool. I think they did something similar in Morocco? I agree this would have made Montana much more entertaining.

I think giving each person an activity to plan is a very good idea, especially with diverse groups. My mom and her sisters are VERY different people who enjoy very different things. When they vacation together they divy up responsibility for meals and activities and that way the vacation doesn't become about 1 person's idea of a good time. I think this trip would have gone a lot smoother if they'd done that. Let Ramona and Sonjia plan a dinner out in town. Let Heather plan an activity. Let Luanne plan a dinner at the cabin. Let Carol plan...I have no idea. A night of smoking pot and taking pictures in old timey Western outfits?

[Almost 3000]

...old timey Western outfits with M&Ms.

[zoeysmom]

Ramona planned St. John's in Season 3, which was Scary Island with Kelly. Carole planned St. Barth's last year. I had forgotten that on the St Johns trip each gal was responsible for an activity, which was very cool. I think they did something similar in Morocco? I agree this would have made Montana much more entertaining.

Wasn't the idea in St. John's it was a bachelorette weekend for Ramona's vow renewal?  Bethenny's gift was a dinner, Kelly did the photo shoot and made a book for Ramona, Alex did the shower.    I agree Ramona planned the best trip ever.  Of course Carole's St. Barths trip and providing a pirate for the ladies entertainment turned out to be good entertainment for us. IIRC there was a point where a couple of the ladies-Sonja and Ramona were shopping for back up accommodations.  Heather had the worst trip-the one to London where the ladies had to sit through a five hour business dinner.  I didn't think much of her Berkshires trip with the highlight being an Elvis impersonator.  Kristen's Montana trip may be the trip remember most because of the whiny hostess.   

[Mozelle]

I seriously doubt the HW's have much to do with planning any of this stuff, although some might involve themselves in the process more than others. Can anyone actually picture Kristen doing the work that would be involved in putting something like this together? I was struck last year when they went to St Barth's, which was Carole's gig. When she was touring the property with the manager, she came to the villa where she and Heather ended up staying. When she saw it she realized that it was the same villa she and Anthony had stayed in years before with her MIL. She seemed quite moved to find herself back in the same place. It is impossible for me to believe that had she actually been surfing the web hunting for appropriate vacation spots that she wouldn't have realized she had been there before.

The fact is that someone like Ramona, who is demanding and near impossible to please, probably would get more involved if for no other reason than she would want to make sure she was going to be catered to in the manner she deems necessary.

My grandfather is a giant asshole most of the time, but he is a fairly rich guy who demands constant lavish treatment to be happy. Most of the time no one in the family can stand him, but if he is hosting a trip or a dinner, we are more than happy to get an invitation. The food will be incredible and the accommodations off the chart because nothing less would make him happy. The rest of us reap those rewards and suddenly his obnoxiousness it much more tolerable. This is Ramona to her core.

 

You know, I had forgotten that part of it. She was surprised to recall that it was where she and Anthony stayed.

 

That said, I do wonder why some of them get all in their feelings when another housewife doesn't want to do any activity in the place they're (supposedly?) the hostess of?

[Midnight Cheese]

Kristen's planned private dinners, massages, a (failed) geocache hike, skeet shooting, rappeling, and fly-fishing, and next episode has a rodeo visit.  If she's been even somewhat involved, she did a lot of planning for this trip, and I don't blame her for being teary and hurt (and buzzed) when everyone but LuAnn and Carole is an asshole to her.  Even though Heather has alcohol, kind of, as an excuse, she's a big bitch in the previews.  Ramona's a big, presumptuous, complaining snatch, but she always is. 

 

Big props to the people pointing out that Sonja has planned ZERO trips during her tenure, just a single fucked-up, no-food, bad-entertainment anniversary party for the Dreschers.  Even Aviva hosted!  (Miami).  She can't even satisfy the RH duties as well as the brand-new Housewives. 

Edited July 1, 2014 by Midnight Cheese

[Baltimore Betty]

I do remember a party or two are Sonja's house, one was some kind of art show in her first season and another was when Aviva joined the cast, so no trips but still entertained.

[motorcitymom65]

You know, I had forgotten that part of it. She was surprised to recall that it was where she and Anthony stayed.

 

That said, I do wonder why some of them get all in their feelings when another housewife doesn't want to do any activity in the place they're (supposedly?) the hostess of?

I think it basically ego for the most part.  The story is that this is actually "their" trip, researched, planned and executed by them. The audience might in large part judge them by how successful their trip is. They want to look good. The deal is that the gals themselves probably know how little say they actually have in what goes on. That is why I hate it when the ladies bitch and moan and call someone a bad hostess. They can do it because they are playing along with the story, but they know the actual truth.  Still they go all-out in making someone look bad. It reminds me of one of Lisa's favorite tricks on the BH's show. She will blame the other ladies for things that are clearly decided by production (claiming Kyle brought Faye to her Tea Party uninvited, or mocking Adrienne for showing up to her Vow Renewal Ceremony on the same day she had announced her divorce). Lisa knows that this was all production and that the gals had nothing to say about it, but they are not going to break the 4th wall, so Lisa will use it to make them look bad.  Ramona and Sonja are doing the exact same thing to Kristen in this instance. There is a huge difference in saying that certain events are not for you or that you would prefer to do something else, and in actually calling someone a bad hostess, or getting right up in someone's face and telling them that their trip is "boring". That takes balls. 

 

Ramona's trip was probably my all-time favorite, but that was as much about the drama and what happened on the trip than anything else. If you took Kelly and her crazy antics away from that trip, or took Jill showing up unannounced, it wouldn't have been the same trip. It still would have been lovely, and we still would have had Turtle Time, but the thing that most of us remember the most is the incredible drama. It is funny to me that the most dramatic trip ever was hosted by the most dramatic hostess ever.  

[imjagain]

Sonja and Luann "planned" the trip to Morocco. I watched the episode last week. They each called the ladies. But that is about it. Sonja must have forgot she was cohosting the trip. Luann seemed to take charge once in Morocco.

[NothingUrgent]

 

I've wondered that too, and wish Bravo still enabled blog comments for that reason. Sonja talks a good game about being the hostess with the mostest, but I keep thinking of the party she arranged for Reid and Aviva, and how there was very little food. There were other issues I can't remember - I just remember guests being hungry, thirsty, and wondering what the heck was going on.

Let's not forget the horrible band she hired.  Also, I noticed that during the party Sonja was drinking and acting like a guest, not the hired party planner.  I don't get paid for the parties I host, but I don't usually drink until I know everything is in order and going smoothly.  If I recall, there was also an issue with no silverware during the cocktail hour despite there being appetizers where they needed a fork. It's sad how much Sonja has gone down my eyes.  

As for these trips, I suspect Bravo has the women all come up with a destination trip and cost estimate and they decide from there.  I do think Kristen is totally out of her element with a trip this large.  She doesn't seem to be very flexible about people wanting to change things up, like skipping the geocaching.  Had I had a boozy lunch I probably would have opted for a nap rather than tramping around the forest again.  Does anyone know how long they've actually been in Montana?  I thought I heard someone say it was a week.  If so, I'm surprised she had the repelling/shooting and geocacheing on the same day.  Plus it looks like they are heading out to glamping (though I can hardly tell the difference between the hi-end tents and the cabins they were already in) on the same day.  If they are really there for a week, why cram so much stuff into one day?

[Mozelle]

motorcitymom, your explanation makes total sense. One should never underestimate the ego of a HW, and your example of Lisa's game playing was perfect. 

 

As for Sonja and her "hosting" duty, I suspect that she is under the impression that because she answered phones and smiled and giggled at the wealthy men who came into the restaurant where she worked 25 years ago that it makes her a party planning extraordinaire. I don't know what the equivalent of "Born on third but thinks she hit a homerun" would be for Sonja who wasn't born into a wealthy family, but whatever the appropriate comparison, it would suit Sonja just right.

[FlyingEgret]

Favorite line so far came from Sonja when she tried to get out of the glamping trip: "tell them I have asthma."

Now I get to look forward to the Countess using a porta-potty - can it be considered a Royal Flush if there's no water?

[bosawks]

Favorite line so far came from Sonja when she tried to get out of the glamping trip: "tell them I have asthma."

Now I get to look forward to the Countess using a porta-potty - can it be considered a Royal Flush if there's no water?

I wonder what the port-a-potty is going to catch from Sonja?

[KicksandGiggles]

Planning and paying aren't the same thing.  I'm planning a trip for 5 gfs this August and while I'm putting down the deposit, I'm not footing the entire bill.  Of course, I'm not getting paid to be there either but that's OK - no video allowed!

 

Vegas Baby? /best Austin Powers voice. I'll be there then too, but I may have video. Will delete for a price... 

Yeah, there is no way these ho-wives are paying for these trips. I can't blame them; I wouldn't pay for work expenses either. That is totally on the company.

[FlyingEgret]

I wonder what the port-a-potty is going to catch from Sonja?

 

Oh I would lay odds that Sonja has had sex in a port-a-potty

Edited July 2, 2014 by FlyingEgret

[bosawks]

Oh I would lay odds that Sonja has had sex in a port-a-potty

I'd lay odds that Sonja had sex with a port-a-potty.