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22 minutes ago, Egg McMuffin said:

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The shows I'm nostalgic for were shows I watched in France that I can't find here. There was a teen show that was called As If or something like that which was an addictive YA show. 

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7 hours ago, Jaded said:

That theme freaked me out so much as a kid. It's still kind of uneasy to listen to...😸

Even now I watched one of the older shows on YouTube….  I thought maybe growing up now I’d find the whole show and story recreations on the funny side….   It was still pretty suspenseful 

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I’d come from school in the 90s and recall on Nickelodeon the Alvin and the Chipmunks 80s cartoon.  Britney and the chipettes got introduced later on on it.   I was a big fan in the day.  
 

That’s why when the movies came out the kid in me got pretty excited but IMO they were terrible.  The show worked like a lot better when they were cartoons vs life life figures 

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I was surprised to learn that this show only had 28 episodes over two seasons. I had one big Pound Puppy plush and a few of the smaller ones from Hardee's back then. This is the 2nd season opening which is the one I've always remembered more than the first one.
 

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See if you recognize the actor at the end of this PP commercial. 
 

 

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21 hours ago, BlueSkies said:

I’d come from school in the 90s and recall on Nickelodeon the Alvin and the Chipmunks 80s cartoon.  Britney and the chipettes got introduced later on on it.   I was a big fan in the day.  
 

That’s why when the movies came out the kid in me got pretty excited but IMO they were terrible.  The show worked like a lot better when they were cartoons vs life life figures 

I loved that cartoon. They were so hilarious. They did a movie with them back in the 90s where the Chipmunks and Chipettes race around the world against each other that was pretty good. I love all the characters. Simon's sarcasm, Theo's sweet, Alvin's crazy, Brittney was a perfect match for Alvin. They were both trouble. But fun to watch.

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Babar the cartoon from the early 90s in HBO

 

Dennis the Menace cartoon from the early 90s

 

Doug from that time period as well.  Matter of fact I liked Snick on Nickelodeon on Saturday nights.  I forgot what shows were on it though.  Salute your Shorts?  Tales from the Dark?

 

 

At any rate the early 90s were the bomb.  

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2 hours ago, BlueSkies said:

Babar the cartoon from the early 90s in HBO

Dennis the Menace cartoon from the early 90s

Oh, wow, yeah, the "Dennis the Menace" cartoon! I remember watching that when I was a kid! And "Babar", too. 

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Doug from that time period as well.  Matter of fact I liked Snick on Nickelodeon on Saturday nights.  I forgot what shows were on it though.  Salute your Shorts?  Tales from the Dark?

From what I remember, SNICK's lineup consisted of "Clarissa Explains it All", "Roundhouse", "Ren & Stimpy", and "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" I want to say "Secret World of Alex Mack" was part of that lineup at one point, too? I definitely remember "Salute Your Shorts", but I don't know if that one was part of SNICK. Good show, though :).

Another favorite that wasn't part of SNICK but which I also liked watching: "The Mystery Files of Shelby Woo". 

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OK, I know it sometimes gets rerun during odd hours on game show channels, however, I really wish that the classic 1970's version of To Tell the Truth would get more airing. Back then, they had some rather intriguing guests who'd get quizzed by clever, entertaining and razor-sharp panelists such as Peggy Cass, Kitty Carlisle and Joe Garigiola with the always cool but cozy host Gary Moore presiding! Miss Cass was often the shrewdest despite usually playing ditzy characters and Miss Carlisle was an interesting combination of genteel yet friendly and genuinely curious about others.

One of the best episodes had to do with an undercover decoy police officer who dressed in heavy disguise to try to catch muggers and robbers as well as hope to deter other would-be assaulters. Anyway, the two imposters (playing an alcoholic derelict with badly slurred speech and on old suited man on crutches who sounded hoarse, respectively) were revealed to be Joe Garigiola, Jr. and Kitty Carlisle's son Christopher Hart- with neither of their respective parents or any other panelist having recognized their offspring in their 20's before the big reveals!  Yep, both the panelists collapsed into shocked hysterics at the reveals. It was especially funny to think that Joe, Sr. had responded to one of Joe,Jr.'s answers with 'You've got a hockey puck stuck in your mouth!'

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10 minutes ago, Popples said:

Finally, someone else liked this show. I really enjoyed it, yet so many of my friends couldn't stand it and I could never understand why.

Aw, that's a shame. I thought it was a cute show! I wanted to have a computer like hers and everything, and I thought she was really cool :D. 

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On 4/8/2023 at 3:04 PM, Annber03 said:

Oh, wow, yeah, the "Dennis the Menace" cartoon! I remember watching that when I was a kid! And "Babar", too. 

From what I remember, SNICK's lineup consisted of "Clarissa Explains it All", "Roundhouse", "Ren & Stimpy", and "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" I want to say "Secret World of Alex Mack" was part of that lineup at one point, too? I definitely remember "Salute Your Shorts", but I don't know if that one was part of SNICK. Good show, though :).

Another favorite that wasn't part of SNICK but which I also liked watching: "The Mystery Files of Shelby Woo". 

I loved Clarissa Explains it All I finally found it on a channel but it only aired a few episodes before taking it off. Too bad it was fun to watch.

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On 3/25/2023 at 7:43 PM, BlueSkies said:

Behind The Music was interesting even for lesser known artists

 

On 3/25/2023 at 9:06 PM, Annber03 said:

Yes! Didn't matter whether I was a fan of the artist in question or not, I still watched because they made every artist's story fascinating and compelling.

 

Allow me to send you on a YouTube binge-watch then (with links below)

Todd in the Shadows is a music reviewer, with a focus on the pop scene.  However, he also has a couple of series with Behind The Music vibes to them. 

One is called "One Hit Wonderland" where he looks at artists known (in the US at least) as one-hit wonders.  Those episodes are in 4 parts; starting the artist's career/life before the big hit, followed by a review of the hit in question, then a look at the career post-hit, including attempted follow-up releases (which may include songs that are big hits in other countries).  They end with an op-ed on whether or not Todd thinks the artist deserved better than just the one hit.

He's also got a series called  "TrainWreckords", where he looks at albums that are considered to be the one that "ended" an artist's career.  Those have a similar format; the first part is a summary of the artist's career before the album in question, then a song-by-song review of the album (generally) with a focus on the singles from it.  There might also be a look into the behind-the-scenes stuff in the cases of bands with multiple big personalities (Metallica, Motley Crue), and a brief look at the post-album career.

Since he's a YouTuber, Todd is pretty snarky most of the time, but he does take his research seriously for these two shows of his.  And while he does make a lot of jokes, he doesn't take many personal pot-shots at the artists (even moreso if he gains a respect for them through his research, or if they've passed on...or both, like his OHW look at Scatman John.)

 

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On 4/8/2023 at 1:04 PM, BlueSkies said:

Babar the cartoon from the early 90s in HBO

Dennis the Menace cartoon from the early 90s

Doug from that time period as well.  Matter of fact I liked Snick on Nickelodeon on Saturday nights.  I forgot what shows were on it though.  Salute your Shorts?  Tales from the Dark?

At any rate the early 90s were the bomb.  

 

On 4/8/2023 at 4:04 PM, Annber03 said:

Oh, wow, yeah, the "Dennis the Menace" cartoon! I remember watching that when I was a kid! And "Babar", too. 

From what I remember, SNICK's lineup consisted of "Clarissa Explains it All", "Roundhouse", "Ren & Stimpy", and "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" I want to say "Secret World of Alex Mack" was part of that lineup at one point, too? I definitely remember "Salute Your Shorts", but I don't know if that one was part of SNICK. Good show, though :).

Another favorite that wasn't part of SNICK but which I also liked watching: "The Mystery Files of Shelby Woo". 

I remember the Dennis the Menace cartoon and the cartoon Heathcliff which I rarely see mentioned anywhere. I really liked "Salute Your Shorts" too. "Clarissa" and "Round House" were my favorite SNICK shows. "All That" was added to SNICK in the first few years it was around too. I wish I had watched "Are You Afraid of the Dark" more than a few times back then. I think "Shelby Woo" came along around the time I started to not watch Nick as much. I do remember "Alex Mack" took over the spot of one of the shows I liked. Was it "Clarissa" if anyone remembers?

Other NICK shows I watched over the years were "Fifteen" (A Canadian import that I first saw Ryan Reynolds), Welcome Freshman, You Can't Do That on Television" (Another Canadian import), "Hey Dude" and  "Out of Control" (Nick ran the few episodes of that show that were made into the ground). I watched most of Nick's game shows too like "Double Dare", "GUTS", "Legends of the Hidden Temple" and probably a few others I'm forgetting.

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22 minutes ago, Jaded said:

 

I remember the Dennis the Menace cartoon and the cartoon Heathcliff which I rarely see mentioned anywhere. I really liked "Salute Your Shorts" too. "Clarissa" and "Round House" were my favorite SNICK shows. "All That" was added to SNICK in the first few years it was around too. I wish I had watched "Are You Afraid of the Dark" more than a few times back then. I think "Shelby Woo" came along around the time I started to not watch Nick as much. I do remember "Alex Mack" took over the spot of one of the shows I liked. Was it "Clarissa" if anyone remembers?

Other NICK shows I watched over the years were "Fifteen" (A Canadian import that I first saw Ryan Reynolds), Welcome Freshman, You Can't Do That on Television" (Another Canadian import), "Hey Dude" and  "Out of Control" (Nick ran the few episodes of that show that were made into the ground). I watched most of Nick's game shows too like "Double Dare", "GUTS", "Legends of the Hidden Temple" and probably a few others I'm forgetting.

I’d want to say Clarissa was well known. Most people of a certain age know of it

 

But it’s very hard to find full episodes anywhere 

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23 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I remember the Dennis the Menace cartoon and the cartoon Heathcliff which I rarely see mentioned anywhere.

Yes! "Heathcliff"! I watched that one, too. God, it's been ages...

Anyone else remember "Noozles"? It featured a young girl named Sandy and her koala bear friends, who came to life when she rubbed noses with them, and they went on adventures together? I liked that cartoon, too, as a kid. 

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Other NICK shows I watched over the years were "Fifteen" (A Canadian import that I first saw Ryan Reynolds), Welcome Freshman, You Can't Do That on Television" (Another Canadian import), "Hey Dude"

I wondered if others remembered "Fifteen" and "Welcome Freshman"! And "Hey Dude" - Christine Taylor's earliest TV role, I think, or one of them, at least. 

About a decade or so back, the TeenNick channel actually aired some "You Can't Do That on Television" episodes for a time. I hadn't seen that show since I was really, really little, and I didn't realize until watching those reruns just how incredibly trippy and weird it was :D. 

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23 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Anyone else remember "Noozles"? It featured a young girl named Sandy and her koala bear friends, who came to life when she rubbed noses with them, and they went on adventures together? I liked that cartoon, too, as a kid.

Nitpicky Aussie here! Koalas aren't bears, they're marsupials. If I could travel back in time, I would find the first person to describe them as bears and give them a good ki-- er, a stern talking-to.

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1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

Yes! "Heathcliff"! I watched that one, too. God, it's been ages...

Anyone else remember "Noozles"? It featured a young girl named Sandy and her koala bear friends, who came to life when she rubbed noses with them, and they went on adventures together? I liked that cartoon, too, as a kid. 

I wondered if others remembered "Fifteen" and "Welcome Freshman"! And "Hey Dude" - Christine Taylor's earliest TV role, I think, or one of them, at least. 

About a decade or so back, the TeenNick channel actually aired some "You Can't Do That on Television" episodes for a time. I hadn't seen that show since I was really, really little, and I didn't realize until watching those reruns just how incredibly trippy and weird it was :D. 

I remembered Fifteen. I liked that show.

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If I ever see Jason Bateman anywhere all I think of is...  I remember the good old days whenever I was sick and old episodes of The Hogan Family would come on.

 

That shows seems to have been forgotten about big time!  Jason was real young and practically a baby in it.  I'm at the age now I consider anyone under 20 a baby.

 

I mean the show as all right.  It would seem real good for nostalgia but unfortuantely a lot looks dated about it.  

 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, BlueSkies said:

If I ever see Jason Bateman anywhere all I think of is...  I remember the good old days whenever I was sick and old episodes of The Hogan Family would come on.

 

That shows seems to have been forgotten about big time!  Jason was real young and practically a baby in it.  I'm at the age now I consider anyone under 20 a baby.

Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family had been airing on Decades or Antenna TV as recently as the last two years, because I would catch it occasionally. They were aired in order so it was called all those things, as far as I remember. 

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Valerie/The Hogan Family is currently on Rewind TV (sister to Antenna TV). Oddly, the first two seasons are run under the original title, Valerie, even though Rewind advertises the whole thing as The Hogan Family (which is how it previously aired in syndication).

Those first two seasons are the best. Valerie Harper was infamously fired due to a dispute over creative direction of the show. Once she was gone, those producers (Miller/Boyett of Full House and Family Matters fame) transformed the show from slightly overachieving family comedy to lowest common denominator crap similar to the rest of their catalog.

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On 4/12/2023 at 4:46 PM, mishy said:

Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family had been airing on Decades or Antenna TV as recently as the last two years, because I would catch it occasionally. They were aired in order so it was called all those things, as far as I remember. 

When was the last time Rhoda got aired? OK, it somewhat got bogged down towards the end and before fading into obscurity but it had started out a fun show depicting Valerie Harper's iconic character  attempting to give her home city of New York its 'last chance' but somewhat hampered via her charming but overwhelming mother Ida( Nancy Walker)  who Rhoda towered over!  Regardless, it's worth seeking out with Miss Harper helped by Julie Kavner as her kid sister Brenda and the voice of Lorenzo Music [real name!] as Carlton the Doorman!

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Catchy Comedy (née Decades) just started airing Rhoda on weekdays, after the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

Rhoda is interesting because it deviated from the half workplace/half home life setup of the other MTM shows. With Rhoda, it was almost all home life. And they never got that setup right and were constantly tweaking it. Julie Kavner was great as the sister, but Nancy Walker was best in small doses. And they got rid of Joe after a couple of years, and various friends came and went, as did Walker. I think the show would have benefitted from a really strong workplace setup to anchor it.

What always made me laugh is how they tried to position Rhoda, played by the beautiful Valerie Harper, as desperate for a man. She had looks and personality - men would have been lined up to date her.

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One of my first memories of life was loving watching game shows on all day on the old USA Network....  this was like late 80s.

 

I was gonna same Name That Tune was forgotten but it looks like there's a remake on Fox now.  But some other stuff I found from back in the day Scrabble, Monopoly and this one

 

 

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On 4/11/2023 at 10:07 PM, Jaded said:

Other NICK shows I watched over the years were "Fifteen" (A Canadian import that I first saw Ryan Reynolds)

I grew up in Michigan where we got some Canadian channels and remember loving Fifteen. There was another Canadian show with Ryan Reynolds that i was obsessed with called The Odyssey about a kid who seemingly entered a fantasy world after falling into a coma. I remember the first season was fantastic but I think it started to fall apart after that with the ending being kind of unsatisfying or at least confusing.

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16 hours ago, krankydoodle said:

There was another Canadian show with Ryan Reynolds that i was obsessed with called The Odyssey about a kid who seemingly entered a fantasy world after falling into a coma.

I remember this show!  Didn't know Reynolds was in it though!  I thought it was an intriguing premise, but then I lost track of it.

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I wish they'd release the total serial of 'Danger Island' (1968- 1969) that was a recurring serial on that was somewhat intense and surprisingly deep considering that its parent show The Banana Splits (1968-1970)seemed strictly for the Romper Room set.

Anyway, it starred Jan-Michael Vincent in his first notable role as the assistant to a missing professor who was trying to combat an evil modern-day pirate and the pirate's henchmen. Assisting him were the professor's young daughter Leslie (Ronne Troupe) and their own allies a shipwrecked African-American merchant marine named Morgan (Rockne Tarkington) and his assistant Chongo ( Kim Kahana) who only communicated with the others via monkey sounds and birdcalls. Oh, and Chongo was the acrobatic comic relief and his mishaps would inspire the catchphrase 'Uh-oh! CHON-GOH!'

  It turned out that the pirate had previously kidnapped and tortured Chongo to such a degree that he could no longer speak human languages.

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Yes, it had a happy ending with them defeating the pirate. Sadly, though, Morgan refused to return to 'civilization' on the grounds that he didn't want Chongo to viewed a freak or outcast so intended to stay behind to care for Chongo!  Why no one considered whether Chongo may have regained his ability to speak with intense therapy, I'm not sure!

 

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This thread reminded me of show the middle which I loved.   It seems to be getting lost now.  There use to be so many people arguing about modern family getting all the awards and thinking the middle was the better show.  I liked modern family and see the episodes everywhere but rarely see the middle.  I hope the Heck’s won’t be forgotten.  

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2 hours ago, tribeca said:

This thread reminded me of show the middle which I loved.   It seems to be getting lost now.  There use to be so many people arguing about modern family getting all the awards and thinking the middle was the better show.  I liked modern family and see the episodes everywhere but rarely see the middle.  I hope the Heck’s won’t be forgotten.  

I love the Middle. It reminds me so much of my own family. 

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On 4/11/2023 at 9:35 PM, Annber03 said:

Yes! "Heathcliff"! I watched that one, too. God, it's been ages...

Anyone else remember "Noozles"? It featured a young girl named Sandy and her koala bear friends, who came to life when she rubbed noses with them, and they went on adventures together? I liked that cartoon, too, as a kid. 

I wondered if others remembered "Fifteen" and "Welcome Freshman"! And "Hey Dude" - Christine Taylor's earliest TV role, I think, or one of them, at least. 

About a decade or so back, the TeenNick channel actually aired some "You Can't Do That on Television" episodes for a time. I hadn't seen that show since I was really, really little, and I didn't realize until watching those reruns just how incredibly trippy and weird it was :D. 

I really liked "Noozles" and used to wish I could have koala friends like that outside my window. "You Can't Do That on Television" really did have some trippy and weird bits I remember a couple of them making me feel a little uneasy. That didn't stop me from watching though.

On 4/15/2023 at 5:13 PM, BlueSkies said:

One of my first memories of life was loving watching game shows on all day on the old USA Network....  this was like late 80s.

 

I was gonna same Name That Tune was forgotten but it looks like there's a remake on Fox now.  But some other stuff I found from back in the day Scrabble, Monopoly and this one

 

 

I loved watching all of those game shows they aired. I don't really remember Monopoly and the show in the clip you posted. I really liked Scrabble. It probably sounds weird to some that I enjoyed hearing the sounds made while contestants were handling the tiles, during the word scrambles when it was time to see if the letters would work or not and when they didn't the stopper noise. I'm glad there wasn't social media back then so Chuck Woolery didn't get ruined for me as a person until a couple decades later. There were a lot of other shows they aired that I'm thinking of but I don't feel like looking for clips of all of them right now.

I've mentioned the mid to late 80's version of Hollywood Squares in other areas here on PT . USA started to rerun it in the second half of '89 when the original run of the show ended earlier that same year. I was first introduced to Joan Rivers and Jim J. Bullock while watching since they each eventually became regular panelists. I first saw a lot of other celebs on that show too. When Joan joined it was to be the permanent center square.
 

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Speaking of Canadian shows and Jim J. Bullock. He was in a teen comedy show that aired for one season from '94 to'95, contrary to the year mentioned in the title of the one full episode I could find on YT. At the time I didn't know it was a Canadian show though. It was syndicated in the US.
 

 

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5 hours ago, Jaded said:

I really liked "Noozles" and used to wish I could have koala friends like that outside my window. "You Can't Do That on Television" really did have some trippy and weird bits I remember a couple of them making me feel a little uneasy. That didn't stop me from watching though.

I loved watching all of those game shows they aired. I don't really remember Monopoly and the show in the clip you posted. I really liked Scrabble. It probably sounds weird to some that I enjoyed hearing the sounds made while contestants were handling the tiles, during the word scrambles when it was time to see if the letters would work or not and when they didn't the stopper noise. I'm glad there wasn't social media back then so Chuck Woolery didn't get ruined for me as a person until a couple decades later. There were a lot of other shows they aired that I'm thinking of but I don't feel like looking for clips of all of them right now.

I've mentioned the mid to late 80's version of Hollywood Squares in other areas here on PT . USA started to rerun it in the second half of '89 when the original run of the show ended earlier that same year. I was first introduced to Joan Rivers and Jim J. Bullock while watching since they each eventually became regular panelists. I first saw a lot of other celebs on that show too. When Joan joined it was to be the permanent center square.
 

Yeah the Hollywood squares sounds vaguely familiar.  I know I loved that channel as a little kid.

 

Press Your Luck and the whammies is what I recall best from that channel but that show isn’t really forgotten 

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Duet

This was one of Fox network’s first shows when the network launched a Sunday night prime time lineup. It ran for three seasons beginning in 1987. I was in junior/senior high school and totally obsessed with Ben and Laura🤣

Although the show isn’t streaming anywhere I have found all of the show’s episodes on the Internet Archive (archive.org)website.

 

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On 6/14/2024 at 11:37 PM, woodstock said:

Duet

This was one of Fox network’s first shows when the network launched a Sunday night prime time lineup. It ran for three seasons beginning in 1987. I was in junior/senior high school and totally obsessed with Ben and Laura🤣

Although the show isn’t streaming anywhere I have found all of the show’s episodes on the Internet Archive (archive.org)website.

 

I've never seen Duet. I might check it out on the Internet Archive website though especially since I saw Alison La Placa as a cast member when I was looking at IMDB. Her character on The John Larroquette Show was my favorite with John being my second. I wish she had gotten to do more than just appearing on TV shows for an episode or two after The John Larroquette Show went off the air which is probably another show that a lot of people have forgotten existed. 

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3 hours ago, Jaded said:

I've never seen Duet. I might check it out on the Internet Archive website though especially since I saw Alison La Placa as a cast member when I was looking at IMDB. Her character on The John Larroquette Show was my favorite with John being my second. I wish she had gotten to do more than just appearing on TV shows for an episode or two after The John Larroquette Show went off the air which is probably another show that a lot of people have forgotten it's existed. 

I remember that show. I loved it which surprised me. I didn't think I would seeing how John Larroquette's character was so different from Dan on Night Court. But it was a great show. Well, until the network suits decided to ruin it.

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The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd. A divorced woman in her 30s living in New York City, played by Blair Brown. One of the prototypes of the dramedy. It was cancelled by NBC and then picked up by Lifetime. This seried predated Sex and the City by years. The writers had her get pregnant while dating two men at the same time, one of them Black. Then she had her bi-racial baby with no plans to marry the father. Much pearl-clutching ensued. Apparently it will never be available because of the music rights.

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8 hours ago, Vermicious Knid said:

The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd. A divorced woman in her 30s living in New York City, played by Blair Brown. One of the prototypes of the dramedy. It was cancelled by NBC and then picked up by Lifetime. This seried predated Sex and the City by years. The writers had her get pregnant while dating two men at the same time, one of them Black. Then she had her bi-racial baby with no plans to marry the father. Much pearl-clutching ensued. Apparently it will never be available because of the music rights.

Damn that sucks. I love Blair Brown and that sounded like a good show.

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I never liked it as much as I wanted to - I liked the concept and Brown's performance, but I kept waiting for it to fire on all cylinders and it never quite did - but it's definitely something I'd take another look at if it turned up somewhere.  That's too bad it's another show that never will due to music licensing costs.

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22 hours ago, Vermicious Knid said:

The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd. A divorced woman in her 30s living in New York City, played by Blair Brown. One of the prototypes of the dramedy. It was cancelled by NBC and then picked up by Lifetime. This seried predated Sex and the City by years. The writers had her get pregnant while dating two men at the same time, one of them Black. Then she had her bi-racial baby with no plans to marry the father. Much pearl-clutching ensued. Apparently it will never be available because of the music rights.

I agree that Molly Dodd more believable, likable character with far more depth than the protagonists in the latter series. I thought it interesting how she had been married and had originally expected for that to have provided her security but when her ex proved a total flake, she realized she had a better chance swimming solo than sinking as a duo- but kept his surname nonetheless. BTW, I also liked her mother Florence Bickford (Allyn Ann McLerie) whose concerns for her newly independent daughter weren't entirely off the mark even if Mrs. Bickford was a bit overwrought.  I also wish it had lasted longer to see how well she'd do as a solo parent after the initial baby glow had faded (and that's nothing to sniff at even without worrying about pigmentation) . Somehow, I imagine she'd have been far more involved in her son's life than the latter series' protagonists were in theirs. Too bad about the music rights keeping it in the can.

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Sadly, it isn't just MTV News archives that were deleted...

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In an enormous cultural loss reminiscent of the degaussed tapes incidents in the early days of television, Paramount Global has removed the online archives to ComedyCentral.com, TVLand.com, MTVNews.com, and CMT.com from public access.

 

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14 hours ago, BlueSkies said:

MTV News with Kurt Loder, John Norris, and I'm sure many more I just recall those two.

 

I mean literally it does not exist anymore

 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2024/06/26/mtv-news-archives-deleted/74225789007/

 

I barely bothered watching MTV since they dumped the Original Five VeeJays but Mr. Loder DID try to report the news in the rock and video industries as objectively as he could (even factoring his own biases)- and for the bulk of his time there, he was virtually the ONLY non-shilly personality on that network!

I don't pretend that even he told anything close to 'whole story' re the above, but at least he did shed what little light there was on the industries represented on MTV beyond the producers' spins.

Therefore, as a historian, I am LIVID that this happened  and just because they were the legal owners of this and had the technical right, doesn't mean it was remotely the 'right' thing to do. This is worse than after the DuMont Television Network faded away in 1956, as per Edie Adams in official Congressional testimony, three TRUCKLOADS of kinescopes from that failed network got dumped in NYC's East River in the 1970s. It's worse because (unlike the DuMont footage), the bulk of the footage hadn't been intended for entertainment but to provide relevant information for the viewers to use to decide for themselves how to relate to the rock and video industries! It's one thing to have had a terrible accident or natural disaster destroy history but it's quite another when it has been DELIBERATELY destroyed (like many believe countless scrolls  stored in the Alexandria Library had been). Moreover, since this was online and NOT physical film, video or DVD there was no excuse of it taking it having taken up ANY room!

I hope everyone who places ANY value in history makes note of what happened and puts as much pressure on OTHER networks,etc. to do everything possible to prevent it from a reoccurrence  because if there are if these abhorrent actions mete no consequences, there will be NOTHING to prevent other digital archives from being trashed and destroyed!

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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