Outlander In The Media

[RulerofallIsurvey]

14 hours ago, toolazy said:

I keep seeing people say this but it's been obvious for a long time that this wasn't going to happen.  

Obvious to whom?  To someone who voraciously keeps up with news about the show, then sure it was probably pretty obvious.  But to a more casual viewer, like me who doesn't follow the show runner or the author or the stars or the network on twitter or facebook or instagram or any of that, (and in fact, this board is the only place I get 'news' about the show and even then I don't click on every link posted.) then, no - it wasn't obvious at all.

[toolazy]

Okay, so I should have said, "Obvious to anyone paying attention." 

[Glade]

19 hours ago, toolazy said:

 

I keep seeing people say this but it's been obvious for a long time that this wasn't going to happen.  

I'm not sure what your point is, exactly?  Ron Moore himself claiming that it could premier early set up expectations that led to disappointment (since it didn't happen), which is only more compounded now that it is in fact premiering seven months later then usual.   Expressing that disappointment isn't saying we still thought as of mid-march we would get an early premier date.

[Starla]

I wonder if the delay is related to the other show Ron Moore is working on? It was just announced this week that it has been picked up by Amazon.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/philip-k-dick-bryan-cranston-electric-dreams-anthology-series-1201987470/

[areca]

They're probably just hoping for miraculous aging in Cat and Sam.

[Nidratime]

Here's a very brief interview with Caitriona while she was at the 2017 Oscar Wilde Awards, conducted by ET.

http://www.etonline.com/tv/211342_outlander_caitriona_balfe_apologizes_season_3_droughtlander_great_reunion/

[toolazy]

I wish she dressed herself better.  That dress looks like she retrieved it from the floor of her closet - it's got weird wrinkles and bulges.  Her face and hair are gorgeous, as is usually the case.  I also like the ACLU ribbon.

He looks great with his hair pulled back all the way (much better than the way he usually wears it which is far too mullet-like to be sexy.  

Edited February 27, 2017 by toolazy

[FnkyChkn34]

4 hours ago, toolazy said:

I wish she dressed herself better.  That dress looks like she retrieved it from the floor of her closet - it's got weird wrinkles and bulges.  Her face and hair are gorgeous, as is usually the case.  I also like the ACLU ribbon.

It looks like a nightgown.  I understand she wants to take fashion risks and be "edgy" but 90% of them are complete fails in my opinion.

[asp]

3 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

It looks like a nightgown.  I understand she wants to take fashion risks and be "edgy" but 90% of them are complete fails in my opinion.

I agree. She either gets paid to wear these or she does have horrible taste. Shame though, because she is beautiful.

[Athena]

I think it's a combination of her own personal style and probably an average to bad stylist. See this dress from the BAFTAs:

 

The comments from this blog indicate her stylist "Tara" dressed her for this event.

How can it be that difficult to dress a former model with that face and body?

[FnkyChkn34]

Yes, but does the front of that purple one look like this?

It's too long and... drafty.  

The two white dresses are nice though.

[RulerofallIsurvey]

16 hours ago, toolazy said:

I wish she dressed herself better.  That dress looks like she retrieved it from the floor of her closet - it's got weird wrinkles and bulges.  Her face and hair are gorgeous, as is usually the case.  I also like the ACLU ribbon.

12 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

It looks like a nightgown.  I understand she wants to take fashion risks and be "edgy" but 90% of them are complete fails in my opinion.

The dress is gorgeous and she is gorgeous in it.  There's nothing wrong with it.  It looks to me like (very expensive!) silk charmeuse.  My great-grandmother's wedding gown from the 1930's is made of the same material.  In fact, the fit and style of Catriona's gown is very reminiscent of that - and classic (and Classy) Hollywood icons like Lauren Bacall.  

[DittyDotDot]

I think Cait looks gorgeous too, @RulerofallIsurvey and I think the dress is just fine. But then again, I'm indifferent to fashion , so what do I know?

[Glaze Crazy]

Since the last dress I saw before the Vanity Fair dress was that BAFTA confection, I think her VF dress is much better. She does seem to be hit and miss though.

[toolazy]

Oh that BAFTA dress is by far the worst thing I've seen her in. 

[katville]

Both of them are ill-fitting and unflattering in my opinion.

[areca]

That woman desperately needs a shopper and a stylist.  OMG.  How do you make such a beautiful woman into such a terrible frump?

[Nidratime]

May be able to watch livestream of Sam and Caitriona at Emerald City ComicCon today at 11:00 a.m. pacific time here. Click on main stage after you get on the second page.

http://outlanderbts.com/sam-cait-live-eccc/

[DittyDotDot]

7 minutes ago, Grashka said:

Tobias Menzies, Sophie Skelton, Rik Rankin and Cesar Domboy do a little Q&A. Questions are silly (to put it mildly) but they are all adorable - I love Rik's accent, I love Tobias' voice and first impression of Ceasar - he is a brilliant choice for adult Fergus.

https://twitter.com/Outlander_STARZ/status/837724277751209984

That was indeed verra cute! I especially enjoyed Tobias' continual "both." 

"Hugs and kisses at the same time." Ceasar will make a perfect Fergus! ;)

[toolazy]

3 hours ago, DittyDotDot said:

That was indeed verra cute! I especially enjoyed Tobias' continual "both." 

"Hugs and kisses at the same time." Ceasar will make a perfect Fergus! ;)

He is a tiny bit better looking than I pictured Fergus but you are right - he'll be great.  I wish we could keep little Fergus, too, because that little guy is so freaking cute.

[WatchrTina]

Here's a link to Sam & Cait's interview / Q&A at Emerald City Comic Con in Seattle (March 2017).  I usually have a hard time watching these because the quality of the questions from the audience can be SO dodgy but they did a really smart thing.  They posted a copy of the Outlander Q&A "bingo card" that someone created (you can find it on the internet) and it shows all the questions that Sam & Cait get asked over and over again.  They specifically asked that none of those questions be asked and, for the most part, that worked.  It was also made very clear that virtually nothing could be said about Season 3, so I did wonder what anyone was going to ask about.  What does that leave?  But, surprisingly, the crowd rose to the challenge and it's a pretty good Q&A.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNovHCxt2Bk

Edited March 8, 2017 by WatchrTina

[Petunia846]

Oh my gosh. I can't believe that bit about the Father Bain actor being actually attacked by dogs! Yikes!

[katville]

On 3/5/2017 at 10:27 AM, Grashka said:

Thanks for posting, it was such a fun! I laughed out loud several times - I loved Jeremy Renner anecdote, "Print shop" by their facial expressions and "We Irishmen are like elephants". Also, based on his entree, SH has as much rhythm as book!Jamie has an ear for music lol

I'm totally not surprised that they were ready to film Claire taking down a wolf in a single combat, crazy as it was, since it would present her as the ultimate badass. I mean, really, which other female character would top that? Not even Lagertha I think ;-)

I felt bad for the Peaker lady, she wanted to let it out but wasn't able to because emotions were so strong.

I wonder if that scene from season 3 that CB was vaguely describing (she gave Jamie/Sam a little push and he gave Caitriona a push that sent her flying) was perhaps the gigantic fight at Lallybroch or something completly random?

Lastly, oh, it looks like they read tumblr blogs...I hope they have been too busy to do it recently.

I read where Sam has a new girlfriend. I hope the more um, "exuberant" fans of his aren't cruel to her on social media. 

[toolazy]

5 hours ago, katville said:

I read where Sam has a new girlfriend. I hope the more um, "exuberant" fans of his aren't cruel to her on social media. 

They already have been.  A few months ago she was the victim of a lot of hate and bullying on Twitter that was so bad that Sam Heughan posted about it, demanding that people stop.  

I really don't get it.  There's this whole creepy internet sub-culture that was dedicated to stalking Sam & Cait and trying to prove that they were actually a couple.  These people were gutted by the news that S&C are only friends.  Who cares?  Stop being creepy!

[Dust Bunny]

45 minutes ago, toolazy said:

I really don't get it.  There's this whole creepy internet sub-culture that was dedicated to stalking Sam & Cait and trying to prove that they were actually a couple.  These people were gutted by the news that S&C are only friends.  Who cares?  Stop being creepy!

I wish I had as much time on my hands as those people. 

Beyond that it's creepy, as you said, I'm guessing this is not a restful show to produce. If you want the whole series brought to screen, why would you want to do anything that might burn out the actors or crew?

But if this year has taught me anything, it's never underestimate the lengths people will go to act (and vote) against their own interests.

[WatchrTina]

53 minutes ago, toolazy said:

These people were gutted by the news that S&C are only friends.  Who cares?  Stop being creepy!

Yes please.  I'm going slightly off-topic here but I find it so odd that people are fixated on wanting Sam & Cait to be a couple in real life.  I remember when Farscape was on the air -- I just LOVED that show, particularly because of the sparkling chemistry between the two main characters.  But no one ever "shipped" the actors because Ben Browder was a happily married man with two young children and we all knew it.  His wife played several guest roles on the show but she always appeared in heavy prosthetic makeup playing a variety of aliens so that one of them could go about in public with their children without having to deal with reactions from fans.  Nevertheless, the long-smouldering courtship of the two lead characters on that show was terrific.  It was loads of fun to watch and we "shipped" those characters hard -- but not the actors.  I wish our fandom could do the same.

But no, we have a different kind of fandom.  For example -- did you see that move Sam did in the video when he swirled his kilt around?  Weeeeel he was a bit too exuberant and he ended up flashing the front row.  And someone took a photo.  And posted it online.  Sam was wearing underpants (black boxer-briefs if I know my menswear.)  Sam is a smart man.  And our fandom  . . . sigh . . . we are a bit too much.

Edited March 8, 2017 by WatchrTina

[Glaze Crazy]

1 hour ago, WatchrTina said:

Sam was wearing underpants

Wait, what? No true Scotsman.....

IA though. Some of the excessive fan stuff is creepy. I'm sad for his girlfriend if she's getting harassed.

[katville]

What has always perplexed me is the amount of entitlement that the shipper fans have. They truly believe that Cat and Sam owe them something. They owe them nothing. They are actors in a TV show. This is their job. Like the poster upthread said, that type of demanding and ignoring of boundaries will only make the actors (and everyone who works on Outlander) step back from social media and not interact with fans. Because who wants to let that into their lives? At the least, it is uncomfortable. At the most, unsafe.

[Summer]

Oh, man, don't get me started on the tumbler/shipping/anti's, blah blah blah, of the Outlander fandom.  

The latest uproar has to do with Sam at a wedding with his girlfriend and a picture of the two of them on Instagram.  A lot of the shippers finally realized that maybe, juussstttt maybe, all the 'heart eyes' and 'flirtation'  they saw between Sam and Cait was....wait for it....PR FOR THE SHOW because they are ACTORS trying to sell their TV show!!   And they were all 'hurt" and "offended" that they were duped by Sam and Cait.  One blogger was so disappointed and upset about the fact that Sam wasn't the man she thought he was.  WHAT??  

These people will actually search airline flights to different countries and compare that to when the actors are on social media to figure out if Sam and Cait are in the same country at the same time.  I just do not get it.  

What kills me the most is the age demographic for the majority of Outlander fans is typically over 40 (generalizing, I know there are younger fans, too) and this behavior is more like Justin Beiber's teen fans.  

Work has been slow lately so these blogs at least provide an entertaining read....but, wow.  

Edited March 8, 2017 by Summer

[katville]

1 hour ago, Summer said:

Oh, man, don't get me started on the tumbler/shipping/anti's, blah blah blah, of the Outlander fandom.  

The latest uproar has to do with Sam at a wedding with his girlfriend and a picture of the two of them on Instagram.  A lot of the shippers finally realized that maybe, juussstttt maybe, all the 'heart eyes' and 'flirtation'  they saw between Sam and Cait was....wait for it....PR FOR THE SHOW because they are ACTORS trying to sell their TV show!!   And they were all 'hurt" and "offended" that they were duped by Sam and Cait.  One blogger was so disappointed and upset about the fact that Sam wasn't the man she thought he was.  WHAT??  

These people will actually search airline flights to different countries and compare that to when the actors are on social media to figure out if Sam and Cait are in the same country at the same time.  I just do not get it.  

What kills me the most is the age demographic for the majority of Outlander fans is typically over 40 (generalizing, I know there are younger fans, too) and this behavior is more like Justin Beiber's teen fans.  

Work has been slow lately so these blogs at least provide an entertaining read....but, wow.  

That poor girl deserves to be able to put a picture of her and her boyfriend on Instagram. I know people think that the rules of decorum don't apply to celebrities because they have privileges that normal people don't have, but it is sad that she can't even enjoy her relationship without being bombarded by trolls.

[Nidratime]

Looks like Reba McEntire is an Outlander fan:

[Nidratime]

Most streamed TV show on Amazon Prime is ... Outlander!

http://decider.com/2017/03/08/amazon-channels-starz-outlander/

[Nidratime]

Diana Gabaldon will be at the National Book Festival in Washington, DC on Sept. 2 (Yea!) Looking forward to hearing her in person again. Here's the link:

https://www.loc.gov/item/prn-17-037/?loclr=eaue

[Clawdette]

Caitriona retweeted that Starz will air a preview for Outlander Season 3 Sunday night during the White Princess.  Hope it's more than 30 seconds!

[GHScorpiosRule]

On 4/13/2017 at 1:00 PM, Clawdette said:

Caitriona retweeted that Starz will air a preview for Outlander Season 3 Sunday night during the White Princess.  Hope it's more than 30 seconds!

I missed it during White Princess, but FB has posted it and it is about 30 seconds, if not shorter, but it's AWESOME!!!!! Hearing Jaime's Sam's voice and seeing the upcoming events gave me the good chills and goosebumps!!!!????

[ruby24]

On 3/8/2017 at 0:44 PM, Summer said:

Oh, man, don't get me started on the tumbler/shipping/anti's, blah blah blah, of the Outlander fandom.  

The latest uproar has to do with Sam at a wedding with his girlfriend and a picture of the two of them on Instagram.  A lot of the shippers finally realized that maybe, juussstttt maybe, all the 'heart eyes' and 'flirtation'  they saw between Sam and Cait was....wait for it....PR FOR THE SHOW because they are ACTORS trying to sell their TV show!!   And they were all 'hurt" and "offended" that they were duped by Sam and Cait.  One blogger was so disappointed and upset about the fact that Sam wasn't the man she thought he was.  WHAT??  

These people will actually search airline flights to different countries and compare that to when the actors are on social media to figure out if Sam and Cait are in the same country at the same time.  I just do not get it.  

What kills me the most is the age demographic for the majority of Outlander fans is typically over 40 (generalizing, I know there are younger fans, too) and this behavior is more like Justin Beiber's teen fans.  

Work has been slow lately so these blogs at least provide an entertaining read....but, wow.  

Okay, so I got my mom into the show and she became OBSESSED with it. She wanted to binge the whole thing, and she's not a big reader, so she hasn't read the books, but she fell completely in love with the show, and not long after we finished the first season she was begging me to find out if they were dating in real life. When I said they weren't, she was horribly disappointed and for months and months she always asks me if they're together in real life yet. She's actually become MORE interested in them being together in real life than on the show now. 

So, yeah, I don't think this is an uncommon reaction. I mean, my mom's in her 50's. She just cannot understand how two people can do sex scenes like that and not develop feelings for each other. So, I don't know, but I do think something psychological happens in fans when they become really, really into something, and it just spills over into wanting there to be some reality to it, since we all know that the show itself isn't real. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by ruby24

[GHScorpiosRule]

11 hours ago, ruby24 said:

Okay, so I got my mom into the show and she became OBSESSED with it. She wanted to binge the whole thing, and she's not a big reader, so she hasn't read the books, but she fell completely in love with the show, and not long after we finished the first season she was begging me to find out if they were dating in real life. When I said they weren't, she was horribly disappointed and for months and months she always asks me if they're together in real life yet. She's actually become MORE interested in them being together in real life than on the show now. 

So, yeah, I don't think this is an uncommon reaction. I mean, my mom's in her 50's. She just cannot understand how two people can do sex scenes like that and not develop feelings for each other. So, I don't know, but I do think something psychological happens in fans when they become really, really into something, and it just spills over into wanting there to be some reality to it, since we all know that the show itself isn't real. 

I find this mind-boggling. I mean, do these viewers/fans/idiots not know (and @ruby24 I'm not referring to your mother as an idiot, but to the stalkerish delusional people who feel like Sam and Cait "betrayed" them!) that the love/sex scenes are very, very technical and that they're not filming a personal home video? That there are a bunch of behind the scenes people filming, telling them how to pose, what position to take? Or the very salient and important FACT: That these are actors who are playing a part? I feel so bad for both Sam and Cait and their significant others. I truly do. And like @Summer said, the general ages of these fans are adults, not teenagers. But even in today's social climate, where teens are supposed to be so much more "savvy" that they would think what they see on screen is real, I just have no words.

[ruby24]

Yeah, but of course on the other hand, there are numerous examples over decades of co-stars who play a couple who DID fall in love on set, right? That happens a lot too. So to me it's not as shocking that people would think this could NEVER happen, and I understand the pathology of becoming so into something that you desperately want it to be real, somehow.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, ruby24 said:

Yeah, but of course on the other hand, there are numerous examples over decades of co-stars who play a couple who DID fall in love on set, right? That happens a lot too. So to me it's not as shocking that people would think this could NEVER happen, and I understand the pathology of becoming so into something that you desperately want it to be real, somehow.

I'm not dismissing that actors can meet and fall in love on set; heck, it's happened a LOT with my Bollywood favorite actors and actresses! And their chemistry continued onscreen even after marriage, so I don't cotton to the notion that a real life couple's chemistry disappears once they're married, as has been speculated elsewhere. And it's also happened in Hollywood.

My point, and I should have been more clear, is that I can't get on board with those that think they're entitled to the personal lives of actors who do such a good job of playing couples that love each other, and offscreen, seem to also be good friends, who actually enjoy each other as people, and automatically assume they must be involved romantically and are lying to the public that they're just friends because...reasons. Then act all pearl clutching and throw out accusations of being deceived and betraaaayed, as if Sam and Cait had originally admitted to a romantic relationship (which they never have; they've always denied it), and attack them because their fantasy or in their minds they act as if they know, when really, they don't. They really, really don't. It's quite scary and frightening, actually.

[katville]

I think the level of investment is what scares me. And shippers blurring on screen and real life. So let's say Cait and Sam were together, how does that add any value to these people's lives? I understand being a fan of Jamie and Claire for the entertainment value of it all, but Cait and Sam's? And feeling entitled to access to their personal life or having the audacity to dictate their personal life ... that is when they take a sharp detour into CrazyTown.

[WatchrTina]

8 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Do these viewers/fans/idiots not know . . . that the love/sex scenes are very, very technical and that they're not filming a personal home video? That there are a bunch of behind the scenes people filming, telling them how to pose, what position to take?

One of my favorite Outlander-related moments in the past year was when someone posted a video of Sam talking to fans at a convention about this very topic.  (I can't post a link because it was one of those videos that goes away after a time.)  Someone asked a very carefully worded (respectful) question about doing love scenes and Sam replied, "Right.  Let's talk about sex."  Everyone "squeeeeed" and then Sam gave a description of the decidedly un-sexy process of choreographing a love scene, then rehearsing it (complete with the light guy sticking a light meter into the actors' personal space in order to take a reading) followed by (finally) filming the scene . . . again and again and again (to get all the necessary angles and to ensure that the shot doesn't include the naughty bits that they've decided NOT to show).  He was very funny and charming during that talk.  It really illustrated what amazing actors Sam and Cait are and how lucky we are in their on-screen chemistry because bringing the sexy under the circumstances he described is damn near a miracle.

[Starla]

I’m not on social media so I don’t know anything about this Sam and Cait business, but I don’t think this sort of thing is unique to Outlander fans. My first book love is LOTR, and when those films came out there was all kinds of insanity over the relationships of the actors, with every picture, interview, and appearance analyzed in great detail. That was before social media. I’ve also heard of it happening with other movies, shows, bands… celebrities must expect it to a certain degree. However, with social media fans have close access to the actors, so I can see it crossing a line. Hopefully the actors are able to laugh about it and don’t feel too creeped out. If I was them I’d probably have some PR person handle my social media and steer clear of it myself.

[Summer]

20 hours ago, katville said:

And feeling entitled to access to their personal life or having the audacity to dictate their personal life ...

This.  Because actors post on social media there is this entitled access that has fans thinking they know them personally.   

The animosity towards Sam's girlfriend is mind boggling to me.  I don't recall the exact situation ( I assume it had something to do with Sam and Cait and/or his girlfriend) but someone commented on his insta account that if he doesn't want scrutiny into his personal life then he shouldn't post personal stuff on insta, to which Sam answered "I don't".   And I'm sure he doesn't, he (or his publicist) controls what is out there.  

Edited April 19, 2017 by Summer

[Dust Bunny]

On 4/18/2017 at 6:53 PM, katville said:

I think the level of investment is what scares me. And shippers blurring on screen and real life. So let's say Cait and Sam were together, how does that add any value to these people's lives? I understand being a fan of Jamie and Claire for the entertainment value of it all, but Cait and Sam's? And feeling entitled to access to their personal life or having the audacity to dictate their personal life ... that is when they take a sharp detour into CrazyTown.

If only people would channel that energy and obsession for doing something good for their community.

[selkie]

Not an Outlander watcher, but feeling the need to give props to Sony Pictures today. An online friend who has been fighting the good but losing fight against Stage 4 cancer has recently entered hospice and was talking about things she's not going to be here for, including Season 3 of Outlander. A few other online friends asked around and made contact with Sony and Diana Gabaldon. Sony  verified the story, and then sent an employee to her front door so she could watch two of the episodes she had been looking forward to the most. 

Bravo, Sony bravo!

[ElectricBoogaloo]

S3 promo:

 

Armoury tour with Jim Elliott:

[Nidratime]

20 hours ago, selkie said:

Not an Outlander watcher, but feeling the need to give props to Sony Pictures today. An online friend who has been fighting the good but losing fight against Stage 4 cancer has recently entered hospice and was talking about things she's not going to be here for, including Season 3 of Outlander. A few other online friends asked around and made contact with Sony and Diana Gabaldon. Sony  verified the story, and then sent an employee to her front door so she could watch two of the episodes she had been looking forward to the most. 

Bravo, Sony bravo!

Ah, that's a lovely move under very sad circumstances.

[Dust Bunny]

20 hours ago, selkie said:

Not an Outlander watcher, but feeling the need to give props to Sony Pictures today. An online friend who has been fighting the good but losing fight against Stage 4 cancer has recently entered hospice and was talking about things she's not going to be here for, including Season 3 of Outlander. A few other online friends asked around and made contact with Sony and Diana Gabaldon. Sony  verified the story, and then sent an employee to her front door so she could watch two of the episodes she had been looking forward to the most. 

Bravo, Sony bravo!

That's awesome. I'm a breast cancer survivor, and Diana reached out to me a couple times during treatment, after my mom went to the Arizona bookstore. 

I'm praying for your friend. If you feel ok sharing, can I ask her first name? God already knows, obviously, but I always like to pray for folks by first name. 

[WatchrTina]

Diana just posted this on Facebook.  The inimitable Connie Verzak (a.k.a ConnieBV/atom2cflea) is at it again, posting a recap / commentary on the current Season 3 trailer.  She even screen-grabbed a scene that passed by too quickly for me to catch (Jamie shooting you-know-who.)  Enjoy!

http://atom1cflea.tumblr.com/post/159925482711/outlander-s3-teaser-trailer-mini-recap-wake-me-up

Edited April 27, 2017 by WatchrTina

[FnkyChkn34]

On 4/18/2017 at 7:53 PM, katville said:

I think the level of investment is what scares me. And shippers blurring on screen and real life. So let's say Cait and Sam were together, how does that add any value to these people's lives? I understand being a fan of Jamie and Claire for the entertainment value of it all, but Cait and Sam's? And feeling entitled to access to their personal life or having the audacity to dictate their personal life ... that is when they take a sharp detour into CrazyTown.

And this phenomenon is obviously not just reserved for Outlander.  Does anyone watch Chicago PD, on NBC?  Two characters are/were together on the show, and are/were together in real life too, and Twitter/Instagram users just have a field day.  Their on-screen relationship is up in the air until the finale, and it appears that they broke up in real life in December, but people just will not let it go.  They have absolutely zero privacy, and often have to turn off the comments sections on their Instagram posts.  The residents of CrazyTown are ridiculous sometimes!