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2 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Golden Globe Award!

Best original score — Motion picture

Hildur Guðnadóttir, "Joker"  

My favorite award of the night.  The score is amazing.

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10 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

And another Golden Globe win!

Best performance by an actor in a motion picture — Drama

Joaquin Phoenix, "Joker"

Well-deserved. 

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9 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

And another Golden Globe win!

Best performance by an actor in a motion picture — Drama

Joaquin Phoenix, "Joker"

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BAFTA nominations:

Best Film
Director - Todd Phillips
Adapted Screenplay - Todd Phillips, Scott Silver
Leading Actor - Joaquin Phoenix
Original Score - Hildur Guđnadóttir
Casting - Shayna Markowitz
Cinematography - Rodrigo Prieto
Editing - Jeff Groth
Production Design - Mark Friedberg, Kris Moran
Make Up & Hair - Kay Georgiou, Nicki Ledermann
Sound - Tod Maitland, Alan Robert Murray, Tom Ozanich, Dean Zupancic

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I like Joaquin's portrayal of the Joker.  A few quibbles about the film, however:

I'm not sure I can picture this guy being much of a match for Batman.

If you go with the "Joker made this origin story up, because his real origin must remain a mystery" idea, I'm sure the Franklin Murray incident would have been national news.  Not to mention it would be part of Arthur's medical/legal history.  The psychiatrist would have certainly been aware of it.  

Apologies if the latter part was addressed in the movie, I haven't seen it yet.  But I've seen so many clips from it, I feel like I have.

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Are you kidding me with how many nominations this movie got?  It seems to me that critics (which is bizarre considering this movie only mustered 69% amongst them at Rotten Tomatoes) were just so desperate to like something that talked about being the anti-comic book movie that they just GUZZLED the Kool-Aid?  The answer is a resounding yes.

I saw Joker.  I liked Joker.  But I've seen much, much better movies (comic book or otherwise) than Joker, which was ordinary at best.  Oscars reward the unremarkable and the pedestrian and Todd Phillips...  

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Headline: “Joker Gets 11 Oscar Noms”

Underneath: “‘Oh, fuck,’ says people living near THOSE stairs.”

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Oscar nominations!

Performance by an actor in a leading role - Joaquin Phoenix

Achievement in cinematography - Lawrence Sher

Achievement in costume design - Mark Bridges

Achievement in directing - Todd Phillips

Achievement in film editing - Jeff Groth

Achievement in makeup and hairstyling - Nicki Ledermann and Kay Georgiou

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score) - Hildur Guðnadóttir

Best motion picture of the year - Todd Phillips, Bradley Cooper, and Emma Tillinger Koskoff

Achievement in sound editing - Alan Robert Murray

Achievement in sound mixing - Tom Ozanich, Dean Zupancic, and Tod Maitland

Adapted screenplay - Todd Phillips & Scott Silver

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This movie did not deserve 11 nominations. At best, it deserved these two. 

Performance by an actor in a leading role - Joaquin Phoenix

Achievement in costume design - Mark Bridges

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14 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

This movie did not deserve 11 nominations. At best, it deserved these two. 

Performance by an actor in a leading role - Joaquin Phoenix

Achievement in costume design - Mark Bridges

And I'm not even sure Joaquin deserved that much.

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19 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

This movie did not deserve 11 nominations. At best, it deserved these two. 

Performance by an actor in a leading role - Joaquin Phoenix

Achievement in costume design - Mark Bridges

I liked the movie and I'm happy for its nominations. I've loved Joaquin for a looong time so am thrilled for him. I don't know much about sound mixing or editing, but I don't quibble with those nominations. The costuming was great. The score was fantastic and there's a reason that woman is winning everything for it. 

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I rented it on Amazon, last night.  I was hesitant, since I wasn't sure I wanted to see Travis Bickle Joker, but I wanted to see Joaquin Pheonix's performance, so I went for it.

I can't say it better than Ralphthemoviemaker, so I'll just put this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6Tqf2gPGA

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Honest Trailer for “Dance Dance Revolution” is up!

 

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23 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

LOL I honestly thought they'd call it "Jokerwise the Dancing Clown."

Pennywise is on a whole other level. Arthur is scary, but not extradimensional scary.

On the bright side, they worked in the “STARES” running gag done for the Twilight movies.

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I literally laughed out loud at "There.  Look.  With the pearls and everything.  Happy?"

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You thought we were done with parallels to Seinfeld after the mock trailer with George? Think again.

Now I’m imagining Arthur screaming “SERENITY NOW!!!” as he killed Murray.

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Honest Trailers covered Men in Black International on Tuesday. It didn’t occur to me they’d do an Oscars roundup a few days later. Obviously, Joker is covered.

Heh. “White people dancing.”

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On 10/6/2019 at 7:46 PM, Racj82 said:

The joke he gets to tell on the talk show is pure Joker.

Indeed. Only the Joker or someone as unstable as him would “get it.”

I agree with others. The Joker’s entire “experience” might’ve been a delusion. Also, I’ve seen some crazy characters portrayed in movies over the years. However, there was something profoundly disturbing about this Joker. Perhaps because he was less cartoonish (like previous versions) and though in the fake city of Gotham, he was apart of a world that was free of caped heroes, which made is more real, I guess? Anyway, I was very disturbed by this Joker. It was unnerving watching him, which is due to Joaquin’s superb portrayal of him. 

Overall, the movie was good, not outstanding. I think it was more of a character study than a movie with a character in it, if that makes sense. I thought the soundtrack was excellent as well. 

Joaquin deserves all the accolades he’s getting for this one. I hope he wins the Oscar tonight. 
 

 

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In case you missed it: Joaquin Phoenix and Hildur Guðnadóttir scored Oscars tonight. Now we can debate as to which is the bigger debate: does the Academy intend on nominating one comic-based/adjacent movie per year so they look like they're "with it*"? Or did Joaquin make for a better Joker than Heath Ledger?

*Keeping in mind that recent Best Pictures include the last part of the LOTR trilogy, a fishman and a mute girl, and a movie that could have been pitched as "Hey, what if Michael Keaton never escaped the shadow of Batman?"

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The Academy seemed to strictly reward Joker for saying they weren't a comic book movie.  It certainly wasn't for quality.  

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I take bitter satisfaction in knowing that at least Todd Phillips didn't win shit.  The movie only got 2 out of the 11 nominations.

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