S08.E14: The End or the Beginning

[Auntie]

AJ is a creep. Stephanie puts up with it just to be married. He is a dirt bag and doesn't know how to treat anybody nicely. He's too into himself and what HIS needs/wants are.

Luke is not a nice person. Kate is quite stupid, always in a fog, has no emotional activity on her face and cries if the wind blows too strong. They are both LIARS for saying they haven't been intimate and then all of sudden they drop the bomb they've been doing the nasty since the honeymoon. Can't have it both ways, people - either you are or you aren't. Pick a story and stick to it.

Keith and Kristine - gag me with spoon, already.

Will and Jasmine - good god, please put us out of our misery already. Poor Will, I think he's probably a nice guy and it's just not working out with Jasmine. She's too concerned about having sex than building a relationship.

[Jeanne222]

Well tonight's the night all of us that have been following along on these four couples marriage journey have been waiting for decision time!

My guess is they all stay together!  I don't think any of them will last but I think they all want to be married and they will keep trying!

[Gem 10]

I think they will all stay together to make the show and experts look good, then all divorce within the next few months.

[ECM1231]

Well here we go. No idea what's going to happen. AJ and Steph are 1st.

[gonecrackers]

Totally zoned there while A.J. was talking.

Edited April 4, 2019 by gonecrackers
I set up topic but my post was pushed down, so took out description of topic

[Crazy Bird Lady]

It will be quite a while before anything important is said.

[gonecrackers]

And now will Steph finally get to speak uninterrupted...

[ECM1231]

AJ says yes but we are still waiting on Steph's reply. Why is she looking so somber? Does the show advise them to look sad?

[aphroditewitch]

I think they are told to give sad and dramatic looks because the show thinks it gives suspense. 

[Melig8r]

Well, that was pretty obvious. Steph & AJ

Oh Jasmine, no.

Edited April 3, 2019 by Melig8r

[gonecrackers]

These two are still on separate planets.

[EctoGammat]

Hoping Steph is able to talk AJ into some anger management/impulse control therapy. I don’t think he’s a terrible guy, but he’s got a lot to work on. 

[configdotsys]

Are we allowed to talk about what is happening in real time or is that considered a spoiler until the program is over?

[gonecrackers]

1 minute ago, configdotsys said:

Are we allowed to talk about what is happening in real time or is that considered a spoiler until the program is over?

Real time snark along is typically encouraged.

[ECM1231]

Jasmine answers 1st and says she wants to continue with the marriage. Again she has to pick Will apart and talk about how he needs financial goals! Money, money, money! Oy! Will is a smart guy and is doing alright. He has a passion to coach and give back. Dump Jasmine and follow your passion, Will!

[configdotsys]

I love you, Will.

Jasmine needs to understand that just because they are not a match, she hasn't failed. Her priorities and what she wanted was opposite of him. Cal should STFU with his opinion. He was trying to make Will feel bad about his decision. 

Edited April 3, 2019 by configdotsys

[gonecrackers]

Jasmine is having a pity party.

[aphroditewitch]

I'm not as impressed by Will as some people. All season he has been a jerk and not gotten called out on it. I think it is good they he chose divorce if only because in the end it will be better for Jasmine.

[Adeejay]

Will was never into Jasmine. Point.Blank.Period.  I give him credit for not sleeping with her knowing how he felt. 

[Neurochick]

Damn Will, but I’m not surprised.

I would divorce Jasmine too if I were Will.  Jasmine is a little girl who doesn’t know what she wants.

Edited April 3, 2019 by Neurochick

[gonecrackers]

They had too many issues & I'll forever be impressed with Will for not just going for the sex.

[EctoGammat]

Good for Will. If you’re not feeling it, don’t lead someone’s on. They just weren’t right for each other, it happens. 

[LilaFowler]

The no-sex thing with Will and Jasmine was a big red flag. Most people who have been dating for two months, especially when they see each other every day and have gotten to know one another, are having sex by then. He was just not into her at all.

[gonecrackers]

Go with "lost cause", Kate.

[CousinOliver]

Thank you for being a man who can not be manipulated, Will.  I’m impressed.  Now, go find a woman who supports your dreams and doesn’t put you down. Jas can go find her guy that likes heights and pays all the bills. 

Be happy, Will.  You’re not missing out on anything! 

[LilaFowler]

Caring and considerate? Luke?!! Kate is pathetic.

[Ohwell]

Yay Will!  I was so afraid he was gonna cave.

[Empress1]

1 minute ago, LilaFowler said:

The no-sex thing with Will and Jasmine was a big red flag. Most people who have been dating for two months, especially when they see each other every day and have gotten to know one another, are having sex by then. He was just not into her at all.

I think it was over for him when they were on different pages re: bill-paying, and it just went downhill every time she sneered about something he liked or wanted to do. I think it was smart of him not to sleep with her if he knew he wasn't into it. I do feel bad for Jasmine, but Will is not the guy for her.

[configdotsys]

I can't deal with Kate. I just can't. She's an absolute idiot. Dim bulb. Any shit that she takes from Luke is all self-inflicted. 

For those who never watched, it was either Teen Mom or 16 and Pregnant when an absolute piece of shit named Adam sent his girlfriend (who just gave birth) an text that called her a fat, stretchmarked bitch. All these years later, close to 10 years, all I can think of when I see him is that vicious, disgusting remark that he made to her and I hate him. Luke is the same. Once he told his "wife" that he was dead inside and repulsed, how do you come back from that if you are the wife? How?

Edited April 3, 2019 by configdotsys

[PupCal]

I've got one word for Kate/Luke: di-vorce

[gonecrackers]

I wish they'd turn the music down a few notches; can't hear Luke mumbling.

[Ohwell]

Will had a look of determination in his eyes before he made his decision and I was glad that he didn't just go in for the easy sex if he wasn't into her. 

[EctoGammat]

Ugh Kate and Luke are painful to watch, so much dysfunction. MAFS major fail.

[Crazy Bird Lady]

I'm ready to throw something at the TV, if Puke and Kate stay together!

[endure]

9 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Will was never into Jasmine. Point.Blank.Period.  I give him credit for not sleeping with her knowing how he felt. 

He had very poor communication skills regarding his feelings.

[LilaFowler]

Luke is so creepy, I cannot take it.

[Nowhere]

Fucking good job, Kate!!

[gonecrackers]

Whew, Kate; and my TV survives.

[Empress1]

THANK GOD, Kate got some sense.

[Adeejay]

Yeah Kate! 

[Soup333]

Color me shocked. Kate has some sense. 

[EctoGammat]

YES KATE! Run away girl!! 

[spunky]

I'm with Jasmine and Pastor Cal. Will placed a timeline on their marriage and never even tried. There is someone out there for you Jasmine. Pastor Cal's face during Kate and Luke's discussion was all of us. Finally Kate!!

[b2H]

Kate shows spine.  Luke continues to be a hole.  An empty vacuous hole.

[Soup333]

We’d just keep hurting each other? What was she doing to him??

[aphroditewitch]

I'm glad Kate said no. I felt she was going to after the scene with her friends last week. 

[LilaFowler]

Why are the experts crying? Pop the champagne.

[configdotsys]

Let's face it: Jasmine blew it. She had no appreciation for the real Will. He wanted a partnership, he wanted to give back. She wanted a bill payer, she put down his fears, critiqued anything he tried to do. She went on about wanting him to have financial goals while on the couch when he has said he wanted to buy an investment property to help fund his desire to help kids in the community. That is a financial goal. She wanted money and for her husband to have a prestigious job.

Kate looked miserable speaking the truth about this sham marriage to Luke. 

I think they will want to end on an up note and K&K will stay together.

[PupCal]

So when do we start the #FreeStephanie/ #MakeAJEatAloneAgain fundraisers?

[endure]

10 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

I wish they'd turn the music down a few notches; can't hear Luke mumbling.

LOL I had to turn on closed captioning to hear Luke