S33.E05: The Greatest Showman

[OnceSane]

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War is on between allies when one teammate quits on their partner during the "Tired Out" challenge; Bear riles up the house and makes an enemy out of Ninja Natalie; players battle for survival in the dark during the "Lights Out" challenge.

Airs March 6, 2019.

[mojoween]

I literally cannot even with Cara.  She is heinous and gross and does she even listen to herself? I mean Paul is whatever, if I saw him on the street I’d leave the planet, but Cara has turned into a giant disappointment.

It’s surprising that she can think about anything at all with how much space Kyle has rented in her head.

Also, she needs to keep talk about other people’s relationships out her damn mouth.

My husband could not stand Zahida’s accent but I love listening to her.  However, she needs to find a bathing suit that fits holy hell that bikini was way too small.

Turbo is awesome.

Edited March 7, 2019 by mojoween

[TiffanyNichelle]

So exactly when did Zach and Cara become friends and then stopped being friends? But then again listening to the shit Zach has been saying about Cara throughout the challenge why is he so mad that she's coming after him. But Cara also needs to take down a notch. She is doing too much about this great relationship which is hilarious knowing that they are broken up now. But also, sit down Jenna. You and Zach aren't exactly relationship goals either.

Bear is an ass but I'm so glad that Da'vonne is staying. She's too much fun.

Happy to see in the previews that Wes wants to break up the UK alliance. I don't know why all the vets are trying so hard to get rid of each other instead of going after the UK group.

[Lantern7]

So much shitty personalities this week. The person I feel bad for most is Zahida because she picked the wrong horse in Zach. Then I remembered she was the last  female "prospect" to pick, and Zach was her only choice. Remember to always do your best, kids!

I want Bear punched. Seriously, from what I understand, BMP signed him to a contract the way MLB teams sign Cuban and Japanese stars. I hope they love his drama. Basically, if you grabbed CT and Wes, pulling their worst attributes and mixing them up, you'd get Bear. Arrogant AND angry. Da'vonne probably went to bed happily . . . not that her asshole partner didn't get her sent packing, but that he didn't try to use the chain to hurt her.

Cara Maria says Zach is jealous she's in a stable relationship. WOW. She's really far gone, isn't she? She's basically what happens if Tonya was trapped in a Hot Topic for a week. She's a bitch, Zach's a dick, so is Bear, Kyle & Paulie are two days away from hate-fucking each other, and Jenna probably wants to be anywhere else. Oh, and Paulie might be rubbing off on Natalie. The guy is a disease. What if she gets infected? I don't think they have quarantine areas on American Ninja Warrior.

Turbo? Still seems too good to be true. Any week now, he'll snap, and then we'll hear people in Turkey all, "We call him 'Dis-Turbo' for a reason."

Hey, the Reunion will be filming in London! We're gonna get an intentional incident! Also, the phrase "tea party" will be in the title. No way it won't.

Bravo to Wes and Dee for upending Z/Z's picking them. Had they lost, Johnny would have gotten off on that for a few months, and I can't abide that. Bad news: Wes/Dee have the Relic. Wes will have power next week. Are you scared yet?

[Decider]

Cara Maria can go sit her entire ass down somewhere.  I could even understand her being salty with Zach because of what she overheard, but that display was entirely too much.

[Treehugger9]

1 hour ago, TiffanyNichelle said:

But Cara also needs to take down a notch. She is doing too much about this great relationship which is hilarious knowing that they are broken up now.

Actually, despite Paulie completely lying to Cara and cheating on her for the entire relationship, which he also did to his other girlfriend, he and Cara are very much together and Paulie has moved to Montana to be with her. Keep on fervently telling both us and yourself how oh so happy you are Cara, and how well Paulie treats you 🙄🙄🙄

[scrb]

TJ said welcome back to the Skeleton Coast.  That is a place in Namibia.  They haven’t shown any bodies of water but appears to be close to the west coast of Namibia.  There is also suppose to be a river in the desert as well.

Good challenges this episode, an endurance challenge and a puzzle elimination.

UK alliance is pretty strong if Bear skated this time.  Yeah Wes must be on Cara’s alliance or should be, to counter the UK.

Kyle needs to cozy up to the UK.

Jenna was right to call BS on Cara playing the girl card.

[toodywoody]

Good Lord, the past seasons instead of it being the Bananas show it has turned into the Cara show. 

She was better when she wasn't involved with anyone. Cara is beyond annoying now with her Kyle bs and Paulie bs.

[Primal Slayer]

Bear doesn't disappoint. He is just as awful as I remember him.

I really wanted Wes to go home since his head is so big. Everyone in the house would be stupid to let him/Dee & Paulie/Ninja Nat get to far in the game. Let Dee/NN team up and wreck everyone

[Primal Slayer]

8 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Hey, the Reunion will be filming in London! We're gonna get an intentional incident! Also, the phrase "tea party" will be in the title. No way it won't.

Glad that the large UK cast forced them to move the reunion so everyone could show up.

[Jillibean]

In a staggeringingly short amount of time, Cara has become my least favorite person this season. She's honestly such a BABY. The cheering and self-satisified smirking when she got what she wanted--I mean, there's trying too hard and then there's just being a heinous human. I think in the past the fact that Cara was an "underdog" hid some of her mental health mess, but now that she sees herself as the star of the show and the bestest athlete, some real narcissism is showing. Cara has known Zach for years. When Zach is on Cara's side and defending her he's a good guy and a good friend, "I love you and Jenna together!", etc. But as soon as he is unflattering to her over a period of several days, he's not just a bad friend to her personally, he's actually a terrible human being, a misogynist who is disrespectful to all women, and a bad boyfriend. Cara, unfortunately for you, you're on TV. There is footage of your hypocrisy (on multiple fronts, not just this one). So maybe stop talking. 

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So exactly when did Zach and Cara become friends and then stopped being friends? But then again listening to the shit Zach has been saying about Cara throughout the challenge why is he so mad that she's coming after him. But Cara also needs to take down a notch. She is doing too much about this great relationship which is hilarious knowing that they are broken up now. But also, sit down Jenna. You and Zach aren't exactly relationship goals either.

It seemed to me like in the Tribunal Zach was basically telling Cara that regardless of what he thought of her as a person, he still had her back in the game as he had for many years, so if she wanted to come after him for personal issues, that was on her. But Kyle and Cara had this dynamic last season and Zach didn't get dragged into the middle of it, so I'm thinking Paulie is responsible for the breakdown of that friendship.

I cringed when Jenna "disagreed" with Cara about how Zach treats women--not because I agree with Cara necessarily but because I honestly don't think Jenna is even bright enough to understand what people THINK the underlying issue is with Zach. I think Jenna legitimately believes Zach isn't sexist. I also don't think Jenna could give you any sort of coherent definition of systemic sexism, feminism, or misogyny. However, I did respect Jenna's statement that when Cara's three month relationship with Paulie was closer to five years Cara will see just how perfect it really is. She turned out to be right on the money. In actuality, it took a lot less than five years for Cara's blissful romance to hit the fan, but judging by her social media she still hasn't learned any lessons about glass houses and stones. If you choose to take back your emotionally manipulative, gaslighting, CHEATING ex, that's on you--but you completely lose your platform to judge anyone else's relationship, as far as I'm concerned. 

My favorite part of the night? (Paraphrasing)

Zach: "Can we go now?"

Cara doing her best Queen of Hearts impression: "You'll not leaving until I say you can leave!"

Zach: "So we're good to go, then?"

Jenna might be better off from a social game perspective without her giant social liability around. Cara and Paulie, I think, are going to make things pretty difficult for themselves in future games by blowing up so many alliances and doing so in such a gross way.  

[strippedhalo]

Da'vonne is so great. So much better without being shackled to Jozea. Wish she wasn't stuck with Bear, though. He seems awful, and kind of like he doesn't understand consequences? Although I guess this episode suggests that for him, consequences are threatened but don't actually materialize. 

Turbo is so sweet. I hope he doesn't turn out to be secretly awful.

I don't like to root for anything that makes Paulie happy, but yay for Wes and Dee! Wes > Zach forever, even though it was nice to see Zach consistently treat a female partner well. Also, how crazy is it that Zach refused to pick Amanda to go against in elimination because they were on the same side?? That's how you adapt and let things go, Cara.

I think I don't actually like Ninja Natalie very much, and not just because she keeps helping Paulie win missions.

[luckyroll3]

Cara needs to stop acting like she chose Zach because she's defending the female race.  She chose Zach because she wanted to get back at him for talking shit about her.  And Zach is jealous about your stable, healthy relationship?!?!

 

Also, Zahida legit thought she could beat Dee over Amanda??  She clearly hasn't been paying attention to the game.  She should have just went for Bear and Davaughn; Bear had already pissed everyone in the house off - her alliances would have been fine. 

Speaking of Bear - is he 3 years old?  Wow those were some toddler tantrums.  

[luckyroll3]

And how could I forget TJ's glee over shutting the lights off during the elimination.  I enjoyed that almost as much as he did!

[mojoween]

7 minutes ago, luckyroll3 said:

And how could I forget TJ's glee over shutting the lights off during the elimination.  I enjoyed that almost as much as he did!

And Davonne’s interview about it - “it was disredamnspectful!”

[peachmangosteen]

9 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Turbo? Still seems too good to be true. Any week now, he'll snap, and then we'll hear people in Turkey all, "We call him 'Dis-Turbo' for a reason."

46 minutes ago, strippedhalo said:

Turbo is so sweet. I hope he doesn't turn out to be secretly awful.

This. I am so scared an ep (or a tweet lol) is coming that reveals Turbo as a horrible person. I'll be so devastated!

47 minutes ago, strippedhalo said:

I think I don't actually like Ninja Natalie very much, and not just because she keeps helping Paulie win missions.

This. I'm kinda glad though because now I can freely root against her and Paulie.

This season is better than the past like 3. So glad there's a challenge and an elimination in every ep and that there are only 13 eps. I hope they continue that format now and don't got back to the 500 ep seasons.

[crookedjackson44]

I am glad that Wes made it.  I thought that in the current stream, with Ashley, John and CT eliminated in successive weeks, that this was Wes' turn.  I would rather support some of the old-timers over these fool Brits.  Cara and Paulie have to go, soon.

[Cherry Cola]

I'm so glad Wes won! I don't know why I like him, but I do. I did however hate that he said Dee and I's game. That drives me nuts!! 

These people aren't very likeable, and get worse as time goes on. I do like Davonne, though.  Her face when Bear said he was horny was hilarious! 

[ImpinAintEasy]

I wanted to like Bear. He seems like a witty guy(or cheeky). But like TJ, I hate quitters. Just finish the challenge. There are no repercussions for finishing last, which is the only problem with this format. So instead of lugging it out he quits and proceeds to show an amazing amount of unwarranted arrogance, which you know is all a performance. MTV paid him to come and be Bear, and he’s giving them him. He’s there to perform, not to compete. I do still like the other UK members, particularly Georgia. 

Turbo continues to be the best. I’m rooting for him or Wes to win. Wes has a better partner, but Turbo is a far better competitor than him at this point. 

Just like Johnny stole Kenny’s schtick, Cara is morphing into the female Bananas.  I was never a big fan, but I didn’t actively dislike her. She is my least favorite challenger at this point. And spare me her women empowerment speech after she cherry picks when to defend women. Amanda is essentially assaulted, and Cara takes the stance that she deserved it. Fuck Cara. 

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, ImpinAintEasy said:

Amanda is essentially assaulted, and Cara takes the stance that she deserved it. Fuck Cara. 

Wait, what?!

[RHJunkie]

If you think quitting is better than losing then you don't belong on this show. Bear was embarrassing, especially as he sat there watching his partner try to complete the task by herself and then had the audacity to call other people useless. Sitting on the sidelines watching other people compete, by definition, makes you the useless one. Day's extended eyeroll was amazing, lol.

I can't deal with Cara and Paulie. I just can't. They're both think that people disliking them is a sign of their superiority when really it's because of their embarrassing level of assholery. Cara didn't even try to negotiate with her partner. She railroaded him and made the decision herself. And all roads lead back to Kyle. The level of infatuation that both these idiots have with Kyle is just so puzzling and pathetic. She and Paulie together are just bullies. And her spiel about choosing Zach out of some responsibility to womanhood. Oh fuck off you imbecile. It had to do with Kyle. You made a decision that was all wrapped up in your infatuation with a MAN, that is the most opposite thing to female empowerment.

Cool, I get that Zach doesn't think Wes is someone he can trust in the game, but calling him out during an elimination, especially when you have to rely on your partner to be able to handle Wes' partner, that was just bad strategy. If you want Wes out, win power and vote him in there to battle for his survival when yours isn't on the line.

I loved how amused TJ was each time he would turn the lights off on them, lol. The challenge was entertaining though.

Jenna isn't one to talk given her relationship history with Zach but neither is Cara one to talk. She finds the shittiest of guys to fall for her and then when it's finally over, she talks about how horrible they treated her...but yet she always stays until they send her packing. Paulie has lied, cheated and manipulated Cara and all the world saw the proof of it and she went back to him. No one should ever let her speak on any other woman's relationship when she's so fucked up herself.

[Coco88]

9 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

This season is better than the past like 3. So glad there's a challenge and an elimination in every ep and that there are only 13 eps. I hope they continue that format now and don't got back to the 500 ep seasons.

This so much!  I’m so glad they didn’t have any stupid redemption house or whatever that was called.

Of the guys that are left, I only like Turbo and Leroy.  And of the girls left I only dislike Cara and Amanda.

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

7 hours ago, ImpinAintEasy said:

Amanda is essentially assaulted, and Cara takes the stance that she deserved it. Fuck Cara. 

Wait, what?!

Something involving duct tape.  There are so many rumors and versions going around and I’m very confused 

[ImpinAintEasy]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Wait, what?!

Supposedly Johnny,Theo, and Kyle wrapped duct tape around Amanda’s face and mouth as a “prank”, even though Amanda was yelling for them to stop and crying. The tape wound up ripping some of her hair out. 

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[MaggieG]

I didn't care for Bear's tantrum, but I cracked up at him and Da'vonne's "are you horny" conversation. 

How tall is Theo? He towers over everyone

[Jillibean]

On 3/7/2019 at 7:14 PM, Coco88 said:

Something involving duct tape.  There are so many rumors and versions going around and I’m very confused 

23 hours ago, ImpinAintEasy said:

Supposedly Johnny,Theo, and Kyle wrapped duct tape around Amanda’s face and mouth as a “prank”, even though Amanda was yelling for them to stop and crying. The tape wound up ripping some of her hair out.

It’s actually gotten crazy. So basically, a couple of weeks ago Amanda tweeted with frustration that her being “tied up” had been left on the cutting room floor. Davonne responded saying she’d be addressing it in her episode 3 recap, which I think she just released last week. It sounds like Amanda was doing her spreading drama things by screaming intentionally all night by the back bedroom about Zach and Wes and whatnot and wouldn’t stop. So the three boys “jokingly” duct taped her, and she and Davonne agreed there wasn’t malicious intent but..I mean, It sounds VERY VERY BAD. Davonne described it as basically mummifying her head with tape. Because they used duct tape, Amanda and Day weren’t able to get it off without painfully pulling out chunks of Amanda's hair. Cara went on a couple of lives and basically laughed about it with Paulie in the background telling her it wasn’t cool. Cara then defended herself on twitter by saying Amanda was a bad person blah blah (I wish someone could do a mashup of that tweet with the clip from vendettas when Cara tells us that no matter who it is or what they’ve done, a group of people going after one person is bullying and something she will never support). Anywhoo...

The fact that this wasn’t shown was taken by fans as unfair to Amanda and an attempt to protect Johnny. Petitions were started, and social media has been in an uproar. Unsurprisingly, MTV was not pleased and presumably reminded Amanda that she has a contract and should not have been talking about this to begin with. Amanda tweeted asking everyone to let it go and said the boys had apologized. Then Amanda tweeted AGAIN and said that due to the way MTV has handled this (cutting the footage, threatening her legally, and in her words “lying” about what occurred) she is done with the challenge after filming this upcoming reunion. 

[scrb]

I don't know if it's smart or dumb for MTV to suppress this kind of incident in the age of #MeToo.

[Drogo]

Cut the political talk.

[Anlogle]

On 3/7/2019 at 1:20 AM, scrb said:

TJ said welcome back to the Skeleton Coast.  That is a place in Namibia.  They haven’t shown any bodies of water but appears to be close to the west coast of Namibia.  There is also suppose to be a river in the desert as well.

Good challenges this episode, an endurance challenge and a puzzle elimination.

UK alliance is pretty strong if Bear skated this time.  Yeah Wes must be on Cara’s alliance or should be, to counter the UK.

Kyle needs to cozy up to the UK.

Jenna was right to call BS on Cara playing the girl card.

Cara didn't need to use all that time ripping him a new one. She should have just called his name and left it at that.  Jenna was equally out of line jumping in to defend him. She should have just kept quiet.

On 3/7/2019 at 5:32 AM, toodywoody said:

Good Lord, the past seasons instead of it being the Bananas show it has turned into the Cara show. 

She was better when she wasn't involved with anyone. Cara is beyond annoying now with her Kyle bs and Paulie bs.

I totally agree. I like her so much more when she was uninvolved with anyone on the show.

[MVFrostsMyPie]

Cara needs to take her desperate shiny-faced bozo-haired self and take a very long time-out. She is so embarrassing. Like, she's so annoying and hypocritically self-righteous, that even when she has good points, I still feel like rooting for the people she mostly irrationally hates. 

[MVFrostsMyPie]

Also, smug Ninja Nat's proportions seem off to me. It's like she used to be of an average height, but a compacter smushed her down to pint-size, but with the same muscles, and her head size stayed the same. Actually you know what, her muscles are the issue, I think. I just don't like overly muscular women OR men. A little definition is good, anything more than that, and I'm generally turned off. Ripped abs are nice to look at, but not if the face of the person is unfortunate-looking, then it kind of ruins the whole picture. And overly beefy arms? Nah. Turbo looks like he at least fits his beefy proportions, but someone like Hunter, for example? He's so muscle-y, it looks painful and more of a hindrance to be that beefy. That Australian dude (Ashley? I don't even remember who he was teamed up with) also looked super unattractive with all that extra (unnatural) muscle mass. 

And Paulie always seems like he is one eye-roll or glare-at-Kyle away from having permanently crossed eyes. 

Edited March 10, 2019 by MVFrostsMyPie

[Steph619]

I usually like Cara and root for her on these Challenges, but man, she displayed so much cringey behavior this episode. I understand she was pissed at Zach for talking crap about her and siding with Kyle, but she could’ve just thrown him in without acting like Johnny. Plus, she has no right to get in Jenna and Zach’s relationship. Worry about your own! I too like it when she’s not involved with anybody romantically. 

Zach sounded horrible though when he was talking about Cara. It’s very opportunistic of him to say that she wouldn’t get as far on this Challenge without Theo. Wasn’t she the same person who beat him on Vendettas? She’s proven herself to be a strong competitor. To me, Zach’s behavior towards women has improved, but it’s still poor especially when he feels attacked.

Kyle is still a douche for instigating drama and Bear is a psycho. I’m glad that Da’vonne got to stay though because I like her. I also like Turbo who hopefully is that genuinely nice.

[thelegacies87]

I wonder if Ninja Nat's, Ninja career is over? She was always one of the weaker competitors on that show, and here she's a stronger one, so I'm sure she loves that...Plus, is the Challenge really on brand with the family-centric, sap-fest that is America Ninja Warrior?  I'm not sure how I feel about her sticking around if she is...She's not exactly a strong personality, and just comes across as smug most of the time...

[Drogo]

If anyone aside from Turbo and his mom Nany win, it will be a travesty.

They are cute as hell, so considerate of each other.

[CottlestonPie]

On 3/8/2019 at 7:45 PM, Jillibean said:

Then Amanda tweeted AGAIN and said that due to the way MTV has handled this (cutting the footage, threatening her legally, and in her words “lying” about what occurred) she is done with the challenge after filming this upcoming reunion. 

I hate Amanda with the fire of a thousand suns but I don't agree with anybody being bulled.  However, if this is the incident that gets her to quit the show forever, well...let's just say I won't shed any tears over her absence.