S06.E15: Ten Gallon Spats

[jennylauren123]

Did Josh say "bath-ed" (with a short "a", is if it were the past tense of the word "bath") instead of "bathed" (with a long "a" -- to bathe)?

 

He did! I thought it was odd. Is that a hoity-toity pronunciation?

 

I remember my dad used to jokingly announce, "I'm going to take a baaath."

[tulip555]

I'm wondering if Sonja has become so deluded in her thinking that she actually believes she did sleep with Russ  

[babykin]

I believe this is the detailed article about Sonja's case that was posted at TWoP. She is a nasty piece of work.

 

http://www.hamricklaw.com/news-media/articles/it-takes-courage-strength-the-power-conviction-of-one-voice-to-right-a-wrong/

[ramby]

Are comments by the public still allowed on the bravo blogs?  I don't see any comments on any of the blogs.  WTF?  I like reading the comments.

[chlban]

The People's Couch is and was getting awful ratings but it's the sister show to the UK's Goggle Box that recently won a BAFTA TV award, which Bravo were hoping they could replicate here, However its ratings have always been bad and the worst came at 9pm last night when it posted its lowest audience to date.  See http://bravoratings.com/2013/10/30/peoples-couch-season-1-ratings/

So that is interesting. It was about ratings, but in trying to booster the ratings on People's Couch, not RHONY? So you take a show with really dismal ratings and switch with a show with pretty bad ratings (RHONY) and that is supposed to help something? Why not switch with OC or some other show that is getting decent ratings?  Who is running the programming at BRAVO, Congress?

 

Makes no sense.  I still think they should try this on Monday right after OC or on Sunday after Kandi's Wedding in the Married to Medicine time slot, and at least see what happens.

 

Edited to add that yes, I am self aware enough to realize it is pathetic that I know all these time slots, probably better than Andy does. Truly sad.

Edited June 19, 2014 by chlban

[ryebread]

I guess one of the things that annoys me about her is that I constantly pick up a phoniness in just about every thing she does. I loved her house in the Berkshires. She's certainly one of the more grounded Ho'Wives. I ought to really like her. But I don't.

 

 I can't put my finger on why I dislike her so much.  Like you, I ought to like her but I don't.  It's like, why, when she announces that she's a tomboy for the nth time, (Did you know she is one?) does that annoy me so? LOL 

 

Or, I know that the Housewives use their blogs to promote their products but it's usually at the end and in a very clear, 'I'm done writing in my blog, now I'm going to promote my product" kind of way.  Or they just list the website at the end.  Cool. But she manages to somehow weave it into the story .  And in the first couple of paragraphs.   This week's blog was especially self promoting, bless her heart. Annoying. But I just can't quit her. From the first paragraph:

To take the Rocky Mountain road or not? That is the question...

Now everyone is getting ready for the Wild, Wild West! Carole and I are googling, Sonja is packing her cheap undies for the trip…poor Montana. She should have brought her Yummie panties--currently $10! -- and she’d be set for horses and hay. . or a roll therein! And Ramona is "soaking" in Aviva’s story.

 

[Grneyedldy]

I wonder what underwear is appropriate to wear at a restaurant/bar in Saratoga when you're falling over in your friend's lap and spreading your legs open for all to see.

Apparently white ones

[chlban]

The thing is, asthma is extremely serious.  If Veevs really is making it up, she's totally fuckin' crazy.  And what is it with these women & throwing things at Kristen?  If she threw her fake-ass drugs at me, I'd throw 'em right back at that one-legged nasty piece of shit.

 

Look, it's not exactly difficult to figure out why the ratings are so awful.  It was going downhill, but George & Aviva have absolutely murdered this show.  George's misogynist garbage turned a shit-ton of people off.  Andy Cohen couldn't tell what a turn off his crap was.  He thought it was hilarious.  

 

OK, so George is gone & supposedly won't be back.  BFD!  Aviva is still there.  And there's absolutely nothing to like about this woman.  She's a nasty unpleasant asshole to everyone around her.  There's no fucking reason anyone would wanna watch her.  OK, so she's gonna be gone for the next few eps.  Doesn't matter.  The damage is done.  The ratings are gonna continue to plummet.  Interesting how deluded & delusional Andy is about the deep trouble this show is in now.

 

The programming move to change the time was a sure ratings killer.  And the fact that they don't show previous eps before the show is killing the ratings too.  Andy's replacement is doing a very, very, very poor job in supporting this show.

 

 

I don't.  And I get why Carole was upset by it.  Sonja was particularly cruel to say this, knowing it was nonsense.  She still hasn't denied it.  Which annoys me too.  But it shows the enormous mean streak Sonja has.  Notice what Carole said Russ said about it.  He didn't say anything about not being into Sonja.  That would be cruel & it doesn't seem like his style.  

 

He said he wouldn't be with Sonja cuz he loved Carole & would definitely not do anything to hurt her.  What a sweet thing to say.  And I think genuine.  The little we saw of Russ, I liked.  He seemed like a very nice guy.  And not at all the type to sleep with an acquaintance/co-worker of his girlfriend.  Sonja was nasty as fuck to make up that lie & feed it to the facialist (which she had to have done).

This is probably some really unfair double standard, but I would think far less of Sonja than I would of Russ if it were true. He's a guy. Although that should say enough, Carole also seems to have dumped him, even if I am sure she did it as kindly as possible.

 

However, in my world you just never. ever, ever  sleep with, date or anything other than converse with, any guy your friend has had a realtionship with.

Ever. I really had no opinion of Denise Richards until she started dating Ritchie Sambora, her BFF's ex husband. Then I instantly decided she was a skank. 

 

Of course, I already consider Sonja a skank, so it really wouldn't suprise me on her partl but it just says so much about her, IMO, that she would even put that out there and then  try to make it sound "cute".  

 

But then, I am really done with Sonja this season. For the record, I don't think it happened. But, I don't doubt for one second that if Sonja could have, she would have.  

[sasha206]

I just *can't* as a 46 year-old woman fathom buying shapewear with "yummie" on the label.

[zoeysmom]

 I can't put my finger on why I dislike her so much.  Like you, I ought to like her but I don't.  It's like, why, when she announces that she's a tomboy for the nth time, (Did you know she is one?) does that annoy me so? LOL 

 

Or, I know that the Housewives use their blogs to promote their products but it's usually at the end and in a very clear, 'I'm done writing in my blog, now I'm going to promote my product" kind of way.  Or they just list the website at the end.  Cool. But she manages to somehow weave it into the story .  And in the first couple of paragraphs.   This week's blog was especially self promoting, bless her heart. Annoying. But I just can't quit her. From the first paragraph:

I have never warmed up to Heather because she knows everything about everything.  When she speaks and writes she acts as if the viewers cannot form an opinion without her input.  I saw a preview of next  week-the guide asks Heather is she has ever repelled and she says, "no but I am a rock climber."  When Kristen asks her to stop talking Heather persists in talking over the guide telling her how to repel.  I find her hip-hop act annoying, her name dropping annoying, her suppose long time friendship with Kristen annoying (when it was announced that Kristen was coming on board Heather tried to take credit for the intro), her house at the Berkshires annoying-I want glam and luxury not a soon to be pool house, her comments about Ramona being menopausal (it is right around the corner for you 45 year old Heather), her MF tirade crass, her marketing advice annoying (it may have been free but was it good?)her inability to keep her extra large nose out of everyone's affairs. being a little nutty or a little slutty is far more entertaining to me than Heather the know it all.   I am tired of RHONYC producing shapewear lines.  Jill, Bethenny and now Heather promoting hers.

[Sooner Smiles]

I have a theory about the wheelchair in the airport.  Apparently Aviva told the producers she couldn't go, gave them a list of reasons why and the producers weren't happy about the situation.  I can see the producers trying to appease Aviva and make all sorts of concessions to try and get her to agree to go.  We'll have medical personnel available, you won't be required to ride horses, etc.  If at some point she brought up her leg, maybe they said they would make sure they had the appropriate transportation for her.  This way production could say they made every effort to accommodate her on the trip.  Since she still refused to go it was smart of them to cover their backsides should she choose to sue for wrongful termination.  Just a theory.

[Abmis]

Did Josh say "bath-ed" (with a short "a", is if it were the past tense of the word "bath") instead of "bathed" (with a long "a" -- to bathe)?

I noticed that, too.  A girl on Teen Mom 2 also pronounces it that way. She's from rural WV.   Have they ever mentioned where Josh grew up? 

[Higgins]

My problem with Heather is that she thinks she is cooler than she is, just like Carole.

[Chit Chat]

However, I do think "bitches" is pretty common run of the mill American language

 

It isn't where I live.  Seems like that's all I hear on TV anymore.  Women calling each other "bitches" will always be derogatory to me, but I understand that I'm old school and things have changed, but that doesn't mean I have to like it! ;)

[Higgins]

I don't have a problem with words of any type. Bitches doesn't bother me at all.

[ScoobieDoobs]

The reputation of the Hamptons is pretty over-exaggerated in that regard.  My guess is that he wants to go for the same reason most city people go - to get away for some R&R.

 

I agree with you, Deb.  But Josh is not a particularly likable guy, so the tendency is to think the worst of him & his motives.  But NYC, particularly Manhattan, can be especially unbearable in the summer, between the heat & humidity, and it is nice to just get away -- whether to the Hamptons or the mountains or the country.

 

Btw, I was wondering what university poor Pickles is getting actual credit for her internship -- whereby it's perfectly OK & totally legitimate she gets college credit for laying out the underwear Sonja is gonna wear for her next several one night stands.  Hmmm, Sonja says in her Bravo blog this is wonderful experience for Pickles as her um, "style intern" & the purpose of this was for her to "learn how to pack properly."  Is Sonja delusional or just a good ole fashioned bullshit artist?  Er, my vote is for bullshit artist.

 

In every legitimate internship, where you earn college credit, it's required to keep a journal.  So what was poor Pickles' journal entry for this bit of sleazy, ridiculous nonsense?  Today I laid out the panties my boss was gonna wear before she picks up some random dude & has them ripped to shreds off her.  Er, sounds very educational & appropriate for an internship, right?

Edited June 19, 2014 by ScoobieDoobs

[Mozelle]

What is Heather's "hip-hop" act?

Edited June 19, 2014 by Mozelle

[ScoobieDoobs]

As far as Alex's expertise she was on the show for four seasons and remains in contact with some of the cast.  So yes I would consider Alex an expert on the show and her views on Luann's behavior.  Luann did turn red when Ramona hurled the gossip her way and it was true.

 

Not so sure bout this.  Alex can theorize based on her own experience, but she doesn't actually know what's going on now.  So it's still just theories she's spouting off.  And she's definitely slanted against Lu & very much toward the Moaner.  She speaks confidently about the show, but what bothers me is -- some of what she says is on target, but definitely not everything.  Lu has been very cagey & secretive about her life & she clearly has a ton to hide.  But I still can't blame her for being angry on some facialist saying nasty shit about her & Sonja's uncaring reaction to it.

[Duke2801]

My problem with Heather is that she thinks she is cooler than she is, just like Carole.

 

 

I have no idea how cool she *thinks* she is.  I don't believe she's ever quantified that. 

 

From my perspective she seems to be a loving wife and mother and a very successful businesswoman who enjoys her life and values her female friendships. She's not just "skinny" but slim and clearly in phenomenal shape, as evidenced at the Mud Run.  All this despite having a child with some very debilitating illnesses and setbacks.   

 

Yep, that's pretty cool in my book.  

Edited June 19, 2014 by Duke2801

[Crankybroad]

This internship thing makes me crazy! HOW does a legitimate university give credit for this or put students in this situation??? The youngest Crankyboy is in Germany this year doing an internship with an international corporation at an office not in someone's home packing underwear and planning dog funerals. This drives me nuts. What school? What kind of credit???

[bosawks]

This internship thing makes me crazy! HOW does a legitimate university give credit for this or put students in this situation??? The youngest Crankyboy is in Germany this year doing an internship with an international corporation at an office not in someone's home packing underwear and planning dog funerals. This drives me nuts. What school? What kind of credit???

My internship was basically poorly supervised indentured servitude, I just assumed that's what they were.........

[MatildaMoody]

I think that either they are misusing the word intern or BRAVO is actually employing them as true interns and allowing them to be filmed as part of it. Obviously, what we are seeing on film would not qualify as a legitimate internship.

[ScoobieDoobs]

I don't think that explains it.  It was said on the show -- by either Sonja or someone else -- she has 20 or more interns.  Bravo doesn't have 20 internships.  No way.  Still say something is going on with these college kids she has as unpaid slaves.  I have no doubt, eventually we'll get the story behind it.  Oh and if Alex is just such an expert on the show, how come she doesn't know either?

[MatildaMoody]

 

I don't think that explains it.  It was said on the show -- by either Sonja or someone else -- she has 20 or more interns.  Bravo doesn't have 20 internships.  No way.

I'm not saying that all of the so called interns are BRAVO interns, I think the ones that they actually film might be. I think the others are being called interns but are actually the children of some of Sonja's "connections" who are being given a free place to stay in New York for a month or so.

[zoeysmom]

My problem with Heather is that she thinks she is cooler than she is, just like Carole.

Here is a story about the oh so cool Heather and her Spanx litigation.  It is long as you want it to be as there are many links to Court documents.  Apparently, the author feels that Heather blundered by trying to start a twitter campaign against Spanx.

My favorite part of the story on a flight seated next to each other were the founder of Spanx's husband and Heather's husband Jonathan.

http://www.realitytvscandals.com/2014/05/07/yummie-tummie-founder-heather-thompson-deserves-a-spanx-ing-by-sara-blakely/

[tveyeonyou]

I just find it funny that AsthmaGate is happening as they've been talking on the news about the declining rates of asthma

[zoeysmom]

I don't think that explains it.  It was said on the show -- by either Sonja or someone else -- she has 20 or more interns.  Bravo doesn't have 20 internships.  No way.  Still say something is going on with these college kids she has as unpaid slaves.  I have no doubt, eventually we'll get the story behind it.  Oh and if Alex is just such an expert on the show, how come she doesn't know either?

I don't know if Simon or Alex would have the answer-but Simon joined previously tv.com as Bravoratings and has been posting with us the last two days.  Alex is always up for questions on her blog site: http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/173807/aviva_drescher_may_have_beenhttp://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/173807/aviva_drescher_may_have_been

 

It is worth a shot if you want an explanation.  I heard Sonja on WWHL and she said they (the interns)receive credit under communications and media credits.  I got the impression she employed or would it be enjoyed them for a relatively short period.  The discussion was on the show with the cute guy from "Revenge" who plays Nolan.  He seemed to have a good time with Sonja and found the internships interesting.

Edited June 19, 2014 by zoeysmom

[motorcitymom65]

I don't think that explains it. It was said on the show -- by either Sonja or someone else -- she has 20 or more interns. Bravo doesn't have 20 internships. No way. Still say something is going on with these college kids she has as unpaid slaves. I have no doubt, eventually we'll get the story behind it. Oh and if Alex is just such an expert on the show, how come she doesn't know either?

Exactly this about Alex, who I actually like. For me her relevance comes in the form of telling me the inside baseball stuff. The production stuff. On this topic she has credibility to me. She lived it and she knows how the sausage is made. On the other hand she also remains close with Ramona and Sonja, and she was fired from this show and replaced with gals that don't kiss their asses, so I take some of her opinions with a grain of salt. If she really knows exactly what is going on with all of these ladies and their motivations and can speak freely about it, why isn't she talking about the interns? Of all the stuff that the vast majority of folks don't get, it is how this intern deal works. There were pages and pages of questions about this on TWoP and other forums. Seems like a pretty basic thing to know if you are really in the loop on the current state of affairs.

Edited June 19, 2014 by motorcitymom65

[Grneyedldy]

Sonja's blog....she truly is delusional. I love this sentence........"To be an assistant to a high-powered jetsetter or celebrity you......." So which one is Sonja supposed to be? Also if this was for a college, is there a degree for stylists for important people?

I also don't think those "interns" are children of friends or interning for Bravo. I think Sonja is renting out rooms and letting them be in her scenes for exchange of services. I don't mean sexual, things like email, her website, serving her guest, etc. Sonja saves the sexual for every other male (not George) with a pulse and like Carole said, penis.

I don't know if Simon or Alex would have the answer-but Simon joined previously tv.com as Bravoratings and has been posting with us the last two days.  Alex is always up for questions on her blog site: http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/173807/aviva_drescher_may_have_beenhttp://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/173807/aviva_drescher_may_have_been

 

It is worth a shot if you want an explanation.  I heard Sonja on WWHL and she said they (the interns)receive credit under communications and media credits.  I got the impression she employed or would it be enjoyed them for a relatively short period.  The discussion was on the show with the cute guy from "Revenge" who plays Nolan.  He seemed to have a good time with Sonja and found the internships interesting.

A big wave out to Simon. As for Sonja's explanation......I'm sorry but I can't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. I'm not sure she even knows the difference between fantasy and reality. Not sure what kind of panties are needed a for a reality check? And poor Pickles for having to deal with them.

[kassa]

 

Most of these morons don't get how beautiful Montana is.

I think Luanne, Carole, Heather and Kristen all found it beautiful.   Not just in what they said, but in facial expressions of expectation and pleasure.   And Sonja made sure to say nice things -- I think if Ramona hadn't made the trip she too would have been positive.  But she and Ramona bond by slagging other people/things. 

 

I think the only part of the rumors Luann denied were that she liked her men short.  Oh, and she did not have sexual relations with that pirate.  I think Carole was singed more by the implication that Russ slept with Sonja than Luann was by the allegation that she dominates men in bed.  LuAnn's anger is at Sonja for finding it amusing and offering it up on a platter as a storyline.

 

To me the funniest part of Aviva's faux decision-making meeting with Reid "Remember when I thought I had the flu and it was Legionnaire's Disease?"  

 

It's sad, though -- she may have become a high functioning (at least superficially) child, teen and adult, but her childhood trauma no doubt contributed to her hypochondria.  Illness = attention/doting is apparently a lesson she internalized very early.

[Lola16]

When I saw the wheelchair with Aviva's name, I thought - there's your banner Aviva! 

 

 

Guess Sonja doesn't have much need for lounger-eeee for the St. Tropez anymore, eh?

 

http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/17/sonja-morgan-bankruptcy-st-tropez-villa-seized-real-housewives-of-new-york/

Too bad Sonja didn't get the villa featured on the show as a girls trip.

 

When Aviva pulled out her economy-sized bag of medications and incorrectly used one of the inhalers, I had a mental flashback to the scene from the movie "It," where one of the kids would have an "asthma attack" whenever he was upset and grab his rescue inhaler.

 

As the story unfolded, the viewers learned his inhalers were in fact "placebos" provided to the kid so that mentally he felt better because physically there was nothing wrong with him.

 

I'd have loved to have seen the labels and dates on that sack of meds that Aviva was tossing around.  

Aviva used the inhaler wrong and there's nothing to her declaration that she couldn't 'use' the medicine if she didn't have asthma.  I had severe bronchitis and had to use inhalers. I don't know what Aviva was prescribed but the bag of stuff wasn't proof of a condition.  What was curious to me was the letter - she brings a letter (reminds me of Welcome Back Kotter) from a doctor and in the letter it states Aviva is a new patient?  Didn't Aviva say in the bathing scene that she went to a pulmonologist and had a round of testing and was going back for another round to see if she could go to Montana?  Was she still considered new at that time?  And when did the horse allergy get diagnosed?  Aviva is ridiculous and so are the other women if they care that she doesn't go.  Sure call her out on her lies but I wouldn't be unhappy if she stayed home.

 

I may be alone in this but I think that Aviva has a touch of Munchausen's.

People with Münchausen's are looking for attention, not also excuses. I think Aviva's laundry list of maladies aren't purely attention seeking but more excuse generating.

[Tiffers4885]

Interesting that Montana aggravates Aviva's asthma, but the farm where she got her leg cut off didn't. . .

[ghoulina]

I can't be the only unfortunate one that saw Sonja's pixelated nether region while they were having cocktails upon first arriving at the ranch was I?

 

I do think she had undies on, though. I noticed a patch of what looked like plain, white ones - but then the pixelation. So it made think the undies shifted and they had to cover her. 

 

I noticed that, too.  A girl on Teen Mom 2 also pronounces it that way. She's from rural WV.   Have they ever mentioned where Josh grew up?

 

Oh my gosh, you're right! Maybe Josh is Leah Messer-Sims-Calvert's long lost cousin!

[LotusFlower]

I just can't with Aviva anyway. The way she argues by clutching her pearls--"How DARE you?!", "If you call me a liar, we're going to have problems," "How RUDE?!"--is just so fucking put on that I roll my eyes at everything she says. .

I noticed a new one in her rant against Kristen: "That is UNACCEPTABLE!"

And if you read her blog this week - she's again so full of herself. And so bitchy and on-the-attack.

[Higgins]

I have no idea how cool she *thinks* she is.  I don't believe she's ever quantified that. 

 

From my perspective she seems to be a loving wife and mother and a very successful businesswoman who enjoys her life and values her female friendships. She's not just "skinny" but slim and clearly in phenomenal shape, as evidenced at the Mud Run.  All this despite having a child with some very debilitating illnesses and setbacks.   

 

Yep, that's pretty cool in my book.  

I don't think you can actually quantify that.

Edited June 19, 2014 by psychnurse

[film noire]

 

Not sure what kind of panties are needed a for a reality check?

LOL

 

 

but then the pixelation. So it made think the undies shifted and they had to cover her.

I am just cynical enough to believe that pixelation was used to give the impression something was slipping in Sonja's nether regions, even though she was (for once) fully covered up.

Edited June 20, 2014 by film noire

[tulip555]

Interesting that Montana aggravates Aviva's asthma, but the farm where she got her leg cut off didn't. . .

could be there are irritants in Montana that Aviva has never been exposed to, and her body is reacting to them.  She may have built up an immunity to irritants on the farm.....JMO, but as someone who has suffered with allergies and at one time had a problem with asthma as well.

[LotusFlower]

Weird. I thought I heard Sonja deny the Russ rumor during the conversation but there was a lot of talking at the time she said it. Not sure now though. I guess I'll have to re-watch that scene.

I heard it, too. Carole said that she had talked to Russ, he said it wasn't true, he never saw Sonja in LA, then she looked at Sonja who said "No" (as in right - it never happened), and then something like "we were never in LA together." I remember it distinctly because I thought it was so disgusting of Sonja to act like she's this desired sex goddess in front of the gossipers, but then deny it in front of Carole when she had to. She is just so full of herself and crazy.

Just noticed fuzzybear said the same thing....just wanted to reiterate!

[ramby]

Come on man, help a sister out.  Am I the only one who can't see any viewer comments on the bravo blogs?  Is something wrong with my computer or are they just not up there?

[tulip555]

Come on man, help a sister out.  Am I the only one who can't see any viewer comments on the bravo blogs?  Is something wrong with my computer or are they just not up there?

Nope....they're gone on my computer too

[ramby]

Nope....they're gone on my computer too

Thanks.  I hope it's just a temporary glitch because I actually like reading the comments better than reading the actual blogs, lol.

[Rhetorica]

Oh my gawd...

What is wrong with Aviva?! Her blog is delusional! Everyone is out to get her. Last year, Sonja & Ramona, this year the "cool" mean girls. They even recruited poor "stupid" Kristen. She lives in an alternate universe. I think she's as kookoo as Kelly but more dangerous. Please send her packing! And her little dog (father) too.  

[Chit Chat]

 

Interesting that Montana aggravates Aviva's asthma, but the farm where she got her leg cut off didn't.

I wondered the very same thing.  Couldn't she have just gone with the fear of flying again?  That seems to have up and vanished like a fart in the wind. 

 

I tried to give Kristen's husband the benefit of the doubt, but after his comments about not wanting to watch the kids, well, I'm done with him. How sad that Kristen can't count on him to take care of things for a few days.  His idea of helping is to drop them off on somebody else.  That irks me.

[FlyingEgret]

How embarrassing that I have the same pill bag as Aviva. Of course mine doesnt have as many drugs (real or placebo) or handy notes for my non-believing friends, but still I think this calls for an emergency shopping trip to Wegmans to hopefully find a different Ziplok bag!

[RedheadZombie]

I just can't with Kristen.  I admit I like gossip, but if someone tries to talk about someone I really like, I shut that shit down.  All you have to say is - I don't want to hear it.  Instead, Kristen courts the gossip with her patented shocked facial expression, then breaks world speed records as she beats a hasty path to tattle.

 

In my life, if someone I find difficult tells me they can't make an event of mine, I express sadness and empathy, followed by a silent prayer of thanks.  Hallelujah, that bitch isn't coming.  Why is Kristen so upset? 

 

I found Ramona's shock and outrage at Aviva throwing something at Kristen amazing.  And to think, Kristen's lip wasn't even bleeding when Aviva was done with her.

 

Is there any chance that production requires doctor clearance before these big trips?  I could see that happening - especially with someone as neurotic as Aviva.  I would imagine after Kelly's breakdown they may be a little more careful.

 

You know, I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I hate the fake cowboy bullshit.  Obviously, most things that true cowboys do are necessary.  What isn't necessary is city folks paying money to pretend to be cowboys and traumatize animals for fun.  During their dinner, the cattle were being unnecessarily roped - it was all for show.  I'm grateful we were spared the terrorizing of baby calves.  First they frighten them to get them to run, then sail by on their horse while roping and yanking their heads off.  Topped off by throwing them down and tying up their legs.  Hate hate hate it.  By the way, when those calves go to slaughter, they often have massive internal injuries.

 

I found Carole much more likeable than normal.  And she's an absolute saint by volunteering to be with Ramona and Sonja.  Otherwise, I'm sure Luanne would have been forced into it.

[aradia22]

Kristen and Carole getting bikini waxes together? Gross. Why do so many of these Bravo shows involve waxing? I don't need to see that. 

 

I think it's hilarious that Aviva came prepared with a doctor's note. What is she 10 and trying to get out of gym class?

 

But Kristen is also ridiculous. She's clearly stirring up drama for the show. If someone came to me and told me they had asthma I would do what Aviva said. I'd say "oh, I'm sorry you found out you have asthma and that you can't come on the trip. We'll miss you." But that's the real world. So none of these women have a leg to stand on (pun unintended) when they accuse each other of acting crazy or irrationally. 

 

I'm a city girl so I'd never go to Missoula unless it was to meet Hank Green or work at the DFTBA outpost there.

 

Wait, are we seriously going to have more of this facialist drama? The stuff at dinner was enough. See, this is my problem. There is stuff that happens that really isn't a big deal. Everyone acknowledges that it isn't a big deal. And then they need to get drama so they bicker over it because they can't pretend that something more interesting is going on in their lives.

[Souvlaki]

I'm wondering if Sonja has become so deluded in her thinking that she actually believes she did sleep with Russ  

 

Maybe a doppelganger.  Sonja may have been soused at some party & probably saw some dude hanging around with a mop of black hair and an Aerosmith shirt who didn't mind being called Russ in the brush or something.  Hard to see when your eyes won't stop crossing.

 

 

[edited for spelling.]

Edited June 20, 2014 by Souvlaki

[Chit Chat]

Kristen and Carole getting bikini waxes together? Gross. Why do so many of these Bravo shows involve waxing? I don't need to see that

 

I don't know what Bravo's fascination with this is, but it is gross.  These women have no shame or modesty.  There are some things the rest of the world doesn't need to see.  I sure as hell wouldn't be taking anybody with me to witness that either! 

[aradia22]

 

Josh....what a dad! He spends quality time with his children in the car on his way to drop them off at the grandparents so he can go to the Hamptons. Cause it's the last weekend of summer, doncha know.

Yeah, this is part of the reason I find it hard to sympathize with Kristen's moaning. Maybe it's just my middle class values but my understanding is that you have kids and then you're stuck with them for 18 years. None of this constantly going out and leaving them with the nanny and dropping them off at your parents. That's fine once in a while but it seems like Kristen doesn't spend that much more time with her kids than Josh does to be honest.

 

Putting on my real world hat for a second, if my husband were going out all the time at random hours of the day, constantly on his phone, and making up lame excuses for why he was always late and needed to not be with me/our kids, I'd assume that he was cheating on me. 

[RedheadZombie]

Maybe a dopperganger. Sonja may have been soused at some party & probably saw some dude hanging around with a mop of black hair and an Aerosmith shirt who didn't mind being called Russ in the brush or something. Hard to see when your eyes won't stop crossing.

I wonder if she tells stories about the night she performed doggy style in the bushes with Johnny Depp.