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CattyK

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I just finished watching this season.  Flagg has one quality I’ve always liked, his appreciation of older homes.  I enjoyed his interaction with the two sisters and enjoyed seeing that house.  Otherwise Flagg was just annoying and got more so throughout the season.  Tracy has let him get by with way too much for a long time and it finally hit the fan.  His “what I say is meaningless” bs is ridiculous.  Bobby is better off, and so is Andrew if in fact they’ve broken up.  
 

I actually enjoy the other three and don’t find them too annoying.  
 

that Las Vegas project is like something out of a dystopian science fiction novel.  It deserves to fail spectacularly.  
 

I enjoyed the discussion here about the tax on the most expensive houses.  Sounds like a good plan to me.  

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I would watch a show that comprises only of Josh Flagg showing old Hollywood homes including their history.  I admit I google some of these homes because they seem so spectacular.   I also look them u

jrzy
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I loved that house,  I hope the new owner appreciates the history and beauty within and just improves what's already there.  One thing I really like about Flagg is that he totally gets the value of th

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The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach,  where do they think they are going to get their water and other resources,  there needs to be an end of all this rampant ego and greed driven development.

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On 2/26/2023 at 2:55 PM, Welshman in Ca said:

I've said the same a few times on here. She was once a very good looking & healthy looking woman before she moved to LA to be with Josh & was Madison's assistant. Not sure if it's her, him or both that prefers the stick insect look.

I suspect it’s probably just Heather feeling competitive with other female celebrities in LA who are super thin. They start comparing themselves to each other and feel inferior if they aren’t the thinnest. It’s no surprise that a lot of women there have eating disorders.

It’s likely the same reason her hair has gotten blonder and her face has taken on a more artificial look over the years that is consistent with how many of these women look. I see it in Tracy’s face too. 

That LV property is a hard sell. Even if someone is willing to spend the money and wait two years, they’re going to be living in a barren, undeveloped environment with nothing but construction for years as new houses are built. 

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Surrealist

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On 5/26/2024 at 10:32 PM, QQQQ said:

I like watching the 24/7 channel on Prime except they run the same 3-4 seasons over and over. And they have the "be right back" and "welcome back" tags reversed before/after commercial breaks 😂  

Sadly, you are correct. They do the same bullshit on the Real Housewives and the 90210 channels. Also skipping multiple episodes too. 

I think you can watch more of them via the On Demand option, but live, they tend to rerun the same seasons. I wish I knew why they did this. 

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ZettaK

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The show is returning this summer. Bravo is running promos for a few weeks along the new seasons of The Real Housewives of OC, and Dubai. The "new" season was filmed two years ago, and the airing was postponed for a long time. I hope it doesn't affect the ratings. This is one of the oldest still going Bravo shows (since 2006). I can only think of Top Chef, Project Runway, and the Real Housewives of Orange County that are so "old".

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Soapy Goddess

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6 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The show is returning this summer. Bravo is running promos for a few weeks along the new seasons of The Real Housewives of OC, and Dubai. The "new" season was filmed two years ago, and the airing was postponed for a long time. I hope it doesn't affect the ratings. This is one of the oldest still going Bravo shows (since 2006). I can only think of Top Chef, Project Runway, and the Real Housewives of Orange County that are so "old".

Bravo is going to air a 2 year old season? Wonder why it was postponed?

Even if it doesn't affect the ratings, home prices have jump significantly, so the timeliness will definitely be affected for all those who follow listings.

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ZettaK

ZettaK

3 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I just saw an ad for the return, July 10.  Wednesdays.     Apparently it was filmed a while ago.   I would like to see them address the luxury house sales legislation.         

Yes, Bravo just aired the first full size promo. It seems we will see Heather Dubrow's (from the Real Housewives of Orange County) real estate transactions. Altman sold her OC house, and helped her buy her next one in Beverly Hills- the Dino DeLaurentis house. 

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tuesdays

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I've seen a few times on this thread that the new season was filmed 2 years ago but I don't think that's true.

Josh and Bobby's divorce was announced in 2022 and finalized in 2023. The picture of Josh and Andrew together that Josh posted on instagram that played a role in Season 14 was taken in May 2022. Meanwhile, in the preview for Season 15, we see Tracey discussing her (at the time clearly very recent) breakup with Erik. That break-up happened in August 2023. 

Tracey and Josh F. have both been on the Brits podcast ('Rise Above the Ranks'). Tracey was on in July 2023 and mentioned that they were then in the midst of filming season 15. Even assuming some delay between when the podcast was taped and when it aired, it likely would not have been a full year delayed. Flagg was on their podcast in February 2024, and he mentioned that it included his traveling with Tracey. From stalking their instagram, they traveled together in July 2023. 

This season is premiering later than it was expected to, and so I think it probably is true that the gap between filming and broadcast is longer than is usually the case. But I'm pretty sure it was filmed in Summer 2023, i.e. not 2 years ago. 

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ZettaK

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On 6/27/2024 at 10:52 PM, tuesdays said:

I've seen a few times on this thread that the new season was filmed 2 years ago but I don't think that's true.

Josh and Bobby's divorce was announced in 2022 and finalized in 2023. The picture of Josh and Andrew together that Josh posted on instagram that played a role in Season 14 was taken in May 2022. Meanwhile, in the preview for Season 15, we see Tracey discussing her (at the time clearly very recent) breakup with Erik. That break-up happened in August 2023. 

Tracey and Josh F. have both been on the Brits podcast ('Rise Above the Ranks'). Tracey was on in July 2023 and mentioned that they were then in the midst of filming season 15. Even assuming some delay between when the podcast was taped and when it aired, it likely would not have been a full year delayed. Flagg was on their podcast in February 2024, and he mentioned that it included his traveling with Tracey. From stalking their instagram, they traveled together in July 2023. 

This season is premiering later than it was expected to, and so I think it probably is true that the gap between filming and broadcast is longer than is usually the case. But I'm pretty sure it was filmed in Summer 2023, i.e. not 2 years ago. 

The previous season (S14) started airing in the beginning of December 2022 (I checked the dates), so it was filmed many months earlier. Bobby and Josh Flagg had separated and were divorcing, and hating each other on that season. I believe the current season starting filming a long time ago, and more was filmed later on (relatively recently) because a long time had passed between seasons. This is common on reality shows. 

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CrazyInAlabama

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So, the big issue in California is sellers pay 4% on sales over $5 million, and 5 1/2% on $10 million and up. I'm not sure about the price where it goes to 5 1/2%.    Should be interesting.   And Tracy is branching out to Texas, Altmans are working Orange County too, and Flagg is still concentrating on Beverly Hills, and the L.A. mansions.   Flagg is on Days of Our LIves, as a ruthless businessman with a coke habit. 

Season 15, Episode 1 Just When You Think You've Seen It All...

Flagg is meeting with a client from a few years ago, Carly bought a property, wants to raze the current house and build a giant monstrosity of a marble modern house, budget went from $10 million to over $30 million, and permits have taken over two years, and the design isn't even finalized.  He's trying to talk her into buying a turnkey property, and selling the lot.  Then, they show Tracy's listing in Crescent Bay, in Laguna Beach, Orange County, and Tracy slips and falls on the stairs.   I like the top floor living area on her listing, that has the view.

Then Altman's listing keeps renting the property out for short term rentals, and they can't get in the house. 

Flagg and the guy from last season are 'on a break', so I guess he's history.  

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CrazyInAlabama

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4 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Josh Flagg looks like he has lost weight. He must have cut way back on the booze. Tracy being so thin is aging her especially her face. I guess we are in for a season of this market sucks and why can't I sell a $30,000,000 house like I used to be able to sell?  My heart bleeds for them. 

As a friend who knows high end real estate said, sellers will just up the price to account for the mansion tax.     I agree with Tracy's house shoppers, way too many stairs.  However I had to laugh at the potential buyers touring the house and complaining the elevator was too slow.    

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dleighg

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i found this. So "both" in some sense, as the market tends to do.

Who does the California mansion tax affect? Primarily, if you're selling a home exceeding the thresholds mentioned above, you, as the seller, will be responsible for paying the mansion tax. However, it's crucial to remember that buyers often factor in these additional costs when making offers.

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tuesdays

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On 7/9/2024 at 5:43 AM, ZettaK said:

The previous season (S14) started airing in the beginning of December 2022 (I checked the dates), so it was filmed many months earlier. Bobby and Josh Flagg had separated and were divorcing, and hating each other on that season. I believe the current season starting filming a long time ago, and more was filmed later on (relatively recently) because a long time had passed between seasons. This is common on reality shows. 

That's correct. Season 14 was filmed in Spring/Summer 2022 and aired December 2022. The current season, Season 15, was likely filmed in Summer 2023 based on what I noted in my previous message--Erik/Tracey's break-up as well as comments by both Josh and Tracey on the Brits podcast.

Needless to say, this is not 2 years ago, which is what you were claiming earlier. It would not surprise me if some was filmed earlier and later than this, but two years ago, Season 14 was being filmed or had just concluded filming not Season 15. 

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Starlight925

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Another recent issue in L.A.  real estate is an ordinance that, no matter the lot size, a house cannot exceed 3750 square feet.  So even if someone purchases 1 acre, they can only build 3750, so no more enormous homes.

The other factor is that unfortunately, L.A. has a huge crime problem, along with homeless, feces, needles, etc., and it's become much less desirable.  Hence, the reason many are moving south to the O.C. or to other states like Texas.  It's no longer the Beverly Hills dreams of Josh Flagg's youth.

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Starlight925

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5 hours ago, dleighg said:

Do you have a link to that limit @Starlight925? I can't find anything in the news, other than an ordinance some years ago for a subset of neighborhoods.

 

That limit was mentioned on Selling Sunset, which is one of the reasons the Oppenheim Group opened up an Orange County office, similar to what's going on with the MDLA folks.  In addition to the additional taxes, crime rates leading to lower home sales, etc.

This is what I found online:

https://www.lawinc.com/los-angeles-mansionization-interim-control-ordinance-home-size-limits

Here's a link to the planning ordinance.  It's a lot more complicated than just "can't build larger than X square feet", but basically, I think (and I'm no lawyer), you can't build a house more than 25% (or 40%, can't understand the legalese), the size of the lot itself:

https://planning.lacity.gov/ordinances/docs/baseline/bmo_bho.pdf

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endure

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On 7/11/2024 at 5:59 AM, 65mickey said:

Josh Flagg looks like he has lost weight. He must have cut way back on the booze. Tracy being so thin is aging her especially her face. I guess we are in for a season of this market sucks and why can't I sell a $30,000,000 house like I used to be able to sell?  My heart bleeds for them. 

All of them look like they’re taking Ozempic imo.

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Just now, 65mickey said:

I just noticed the small cooler with BLK water drink in the Altman's office. This was the drink that the Manzo and Laurita crew was promoting years ago. I am surprised it is still being sold. It sounded so unappealing.   

I don't think it's still being sold, I think it's just a fixture in the office at this point.  Nobody touches that swill.

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CrazyInAlabama

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Season 15, Episode 2-Hate to Say I Told You So. 

So, Altmans hype Readcrest, it's used as a short term rental, and they can't show it. So why hype it to buyers? 

 I'm tired of Altman and Flagg fake fighting over losing or getting listings.  The apology / friendship lunch between Altman and Flagg was so low key, and boring.   

Flagg specializes in vintage, and I find it funny that he says he sells everything.    He may sell non-vintage sometimes, but he prefers older historic homes.   Carly Steel who has the land for sale, wants turnkey, and Flagg finds her a modern house on the Flats, so he does sometimes sell modern/contemporary.  Carly wants a 'marine feature', so he and his assistant dress up like sharks.  So she sells the land, for $16.5 million, and buys the house in the flats. 

Altman fires the clients on Readcrest, because they keep renting it out, and he can never show the house.   

This episode should have had about 40 minutes of film, instead it was more like 10 minutes of content filled out to 40 minutes.   

Episode 3 looks interesting, with some spectacular homes.  

James and David left The Agency for another real estate group focusing on luxe homes, including one listing for $79 million, and the "cheapest" is almost $5 million.   They seem to be doing very well. 

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Soapy Goddess

Soapy Goddess

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

He looks different this season. Did I miss something about his hair? Why is he wearing that knit hat?

He said to Tracy that he didn't feel like fixing (styling) it this morning.

I have a feeling Flagg is like the rest of Hollywood...trying Ozempic whether they need it or not.

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