newyawk September 21, 2019 Share September 21, 2019 15 hours ago, ShaNaeNae said: If it's a child, yes, it is exploitation. She doesn't know any better, it's all she knows. It's gone on so long that I think of she has a normal life, she won't know how to adjust to just acting like a normal kid and letting others have attention. I guess we will just have to disagree. Alana has been very obviously happy to have been on reality TV this entire time until things started going downhill. Her goal is to be a Hollywood star, she seeks out attention. On 9/18/2019 at 1:03 AM, the-grey-lady said: If Alana were an adult, I'd agree with you. But she's a child, and she's not responsible for the poor decisions her mother has made. See my response to ShaNaeNae. On 9/15/2019 at 11:20 AM, Major Bigtime said: It was her mother’s idea to put her in pageants and on TV. Alana has never known a “normal” life. All she knows is to pose, smile, do what production crews tell her to do. Yes, I truly believe she’s been exploited for money that June has gone through for years. See my above response to ShaNaeNae. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5617122
the-grey-lady September 21, 2019 Share September 21, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, newyawk said: I guess we will just have to disagree. Alana has been very obviously happy to have been on reality TV this entire time until things started going downhill. Her goal is to be a Hollywood star, she seeks out attention. See my response to ShaNaeNae. See my above response to ShaNaeNae. Alana is a child. She may believe she wants to be a Hollywood star. She may believe she wants attention. She may love to be on reality TV. None of that matters. Children cannot make healthy and reasonable decisions for themselves, which is why they need parents to keep their best interests in mind. Regardless of what Alana wants, and no matter how badly she wants it, it's June's job to do what's best for her. Period. Edited September 21, 2019 by the-grey-lady 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5617129
newyawk September 21, 2019 Share September 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, the-grey-lady said: Alana is a child. She may believe she wants to be a Hollywood star. She may believe she wants attention. She may love to be on reality TV. None of that matters. Children cannot make healthy and reasonable decisions for themselves, which is why they need parents to keep their best interests in mind. Regardless of what Alana wants, and no matter how badly she wants it, it's June's job to do what's best for her. Period. Again, agree to disagree. Good night. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5617141
Major Bigtime September 23, 2019 Share September 23, 2019 We’ll never know what June has told her daughter Alana to do until the day comes that perhaps Alana wants to talk about it. June has exposed her to pedophiles, drunks, God only knows who else. Being a “celebrity” might have been Alana’s way of escaping her mother’s bad choices. Memories of Anissa Jones who played “Buffy” on Family Affair come to mind. I knew her, she was miserable and so mixed up by being thrust into a life she didn’t ask for, but one her mother forced her into. Died of a drug overdose. I could see it coming and nothing I nor any of her other friends could do to help her. I hope better for Alana. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5623855
PrincessPurrsALot September 25, 2019 Share September 25, 2019 Hotties and Notties, Things are getting heated in here. Let's remember and adhere to the BE CIVIL rule. Also, given the Shannon family's history of sexual abuse, let's try to stay away from comparisons that involve sex with minors. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5629062
sempervivum September 25, 2019 Share September 25, 2019 I see Doe Doe in these pics, strange. Back in Court 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5629324
PrincessPurrsALot September 25, 2019 Share September 25, 2019 From those photos it looks like crack is really helping June keep the weight off whereas Geno is packing it on. Maybe she'll try to explain that her drug use is part of an overall weight maintenance strategy. 5 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5629501
Whyyouneedaname September 25, 2019 Share September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, sempervivum said: I see Doe Doe in these pics, strange. Back in Court Looks like DoeDoe got a new grill 🙂 & June looks like she's lost more teeth 🙄 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5629562
CrazyInAlabama September 25, 2019 Share September 25, 2019 (edited) So meth is hell on the teeth, but certainly reduces the rear end. June is beyond jacked up teeth, and needs to see a reconstructive cosmetic dentist. I would not be surprised to see that she would need full denture implants. If the rest of her teeth are in bad shape the way the front ones are, then she's risking her life. Edited September 26, 2019 by CrazyInAlabama 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5629799
DNR September 26, 2019 Share September 26, 2019 Ugh mama June’s teeth 🤢 whoa doedoe looks semi attractive in those pics 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5630491
Armchair Critic September 26, 2019 Share September 26, 2019 Quote Geno stepped out of their SUV fired up -- yelling, "What's up pussies? F**king queers?!!" Classy as always! Quote Interestingly, a camera crew for WE tv -- which airs June's reality show -- were rolling as she and Geno arrived for court WE tv still trying to milk this for another season? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5630816
Armchair Critic September 26, 2019 Share September 26, 2019 7 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said: Maybe she'll try to explain that her drug use is part of an overall weight maintenance strategy. I worked at a rehab facility and my friend and I used to joke (we were college aged and kidding around) that we wanted to be on drugs just long enough to get a thigh gap. Obviously I wouldn't want to be addicted but we noticed a lot of the women in there were thin. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5630826
sempervivum October 8, 2019 Share October 8, 2019 Mama June Sells House at a Loss 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5660340
Guest October 8, 2019 Share October 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, sempervivum said: Mama June Sells House at a Loss So the Realtors paid $100k for that house and are now selling it for $200k after putting in cheap (albeit new) carpets, some new builder-grade cabinetry and flooring, and seemingly every Bath Fitter add on they could find. LOL Talk about making money on their investment. Pretty sure June just wanted to sell that house to get ANY kind of $$$ out of it and didn't even care there was a $50k loss. Those drugs aren't going to buy themselves. Speaking of drugs, and I know it was the Daily Mail and all, but I'm sick of the constant media narrative that everyone is trying to get June away from Geno because her addiction issues are entirely his fault. Her drug habit is her fault. Full stop. Her entire life has been fueled by her bad choices -- and while Geno is surely yet another shitty boyfriend in a long line of shitty boyfriends -- and her pill/heroin/meth abuse is just another one of them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5660380
Armchair Critic October 9, 2019 Share October 9, 2019 The crack and butt crack fumes still linger though. I noticed they still have some of the original appliances, I wouldn't want to use the same microwave they had their filthy mitts on. 7 hours ago, Giant Misfit said: I'm sick of the constant media narrative that everyone is trying to get June away from Geno because her addiction issues are entirely his fault. Her drug habit is her fault. Full stop. Her entire life has been fueled by her bad choices -- and while Geno is surely yet another shitty boyfriend in a long line of shitty boyfriends -- and her pill/heroin/meth abuse is just another one of them. Preach! June already had an arrest record and dated a succession of losers (among them the pedo who abused her own daughter) long before she met Geno. There was always going to be another loser she latched onto and put before her own children even if it wasn't Geno. Also this isn't June's first time at the rodeo when it comes to drugs. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5661506
4N6MAL October 9, 2019 Share October 9, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 10:39 PM, DNR said: Ugh mama June’s teeth 🤢 whoa doedoe looks semi attractive in those pics Looks like DoeDoe finally got some dental work done herself....or there was a filter used in the photograph. 😉 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5663278
Cowgirl November 5, 2019 Share November 5, 2019 I thought Doe Doe's hair looked nice there too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5729255
newyawk November 18, 2019 Share November 18, 2019 Geno got her hooked. Drugs were not one of June's major problems before she met him. It quickly became one. So yes, he does share in the blame. She is an addict in every way and he is a reprehensible lowlife who brought out the very worst in her and kept encouraging it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5756186
druzy November 18, 2019 Share November 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, newyawk said: Geno got her hooked. Drugs were not one of June's major problems before she met him. It quickly became one. So yes, he does share in the blame. She is an addict in every way and he is a reprehensible lowlife who brought out the very worst in her and kept encouraging it. June got herself hooked. Her drug use was always covered up until it couldn't be anymore. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5756228
ShaNaeNae November 18, 2019 Share November 18, 2019 15 hours ago, newyawk said: Geno got her hooked. Drugs were not one of June's major problems before she met him. It quickly became one. So yes, he does share in the blame. She is an addict in every way and he is a reprehensible lowlife who brought out the very worst in her and kept encouraging it. No one can make you do anything. People need to take responsibility and accountability for themselves. She did drugs herself, she's to blame. Geno is still a lowlife and probably brought drugs around her, but she chose to do them and continues to do them. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5758280
silverspoons November 19, 2019 Share November 19, 2019 Did anyone catch Geno on IG live a few days ago? I was able to watch it on youtube. He was acting weird. He was smoking and saying he wanted to end cancer or support cancer charities? He was being harsh with people asking about him and June. He looked thinner and not well. No sign of June in the video. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5761879
ShaNaeNae November 20, 2019 Share November 20, 2019 13 hours ago, silverspoons said: Did anyone catch Geno on IG live a few days ago? I was able to watch it on youtube. He was acting weird. He was smoking and saying he wanted to end cancer or support cancer charities? He was being harsh with people asking about him and June. He looked thinner and not well. No sign of June in the video. Interesting. I don't think things will end well for these two unfortunately. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5763341
Mahamid Frauded Me December 26, 2019 Share December 26, 2019 any new scoop on these two ( mama and Geno ?) Hopefully Alana is staying with Pumpkin still and Do-Do is checking in on them at least. Why did she have to sell the house ? Pay legal fee's ? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5829448
pasdetrois December 28, 2019 Share December 28, 2019 (edited) TMZ says she and Geno trashed a hotel room a few months ago. I'm pretty sure she sold the house to finance her druggy transient lifestyle. At this point her interests are limited to drugs, casinos and keeping Geno around. I assume she will be back on public benefits when the money is gone. Or some Z-list production company will slither in and offer her a trashy show. Edited December 28, 2019 by pasdetrois 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5831672
sempervivum December 29, 2019 Share December 29, 2019 These 2 are like Sherman's army, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake: Hotel Trashed 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5832905
sempervivum January 6, 2020 Share January 6, 2020 More (amazing they can find any hotels willing to rent to them anymore): Another Hotel Left Holding the Bag Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5847466
libgirl2 January 15, 2020 Share January 15, 2020 (edited) I hate to say this but how soon until she is found dead of an overdose? Edited January 15, 2020 by libgirl2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5867579
ShaNaeNae January 16, 2020 Share January 16, 2020 16 hours ago, libgirl2 said: I hate to say this but how soon until she is found dead of an overdose? I've been wondering the same, to be honest. These things don't end well, and they are going hard. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5869548
libgirl2 January 16, 2020 Share January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, ShaNaeNae said: I've been wondering the same, to be honest. These things don't end well, and they are going hard. I'm just so reminded of other celebrities that started down this path and how it ended. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5869683
ShaNaeNae January 16, 2020 Share January 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, libgirl2 said: I'm just so reminded of other celebrities that started down this path and how it ended. Yep, me too. Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger. Granted, MJ is not as famous as these people, but addiction doesn't discriminate. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5869806
libgirl2 January 16, 2020 Share January 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, ShaNaeNae said: Yep, me too. Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger. Granted, MJ is not as famous as these people, but addiction doesn't discriminate. I was especially thinking of the last days of Anna Nicole. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5869821
Guest January 16, 2020 Share January 16, 2020 20 hours ago, libgirl2 said: I hate to say this but how soon until she is found dead of an overdose? Not soon enough for me. Sorry/not sorry but this waste of human life chose to a.) not only NOT believe her daughter when she told her she was being sexually abused by her boyfriend; and b.) continue a relationship with the same man who went TO PRISON for sexually abusing her daughter after he was released and continue to deny it even though there were pictures of them in bed together. Fuck her. She deserves none of my tears. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5870033
libgirl2 January 16, 2020 Share January 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said: Not soon enough for me. Sorry/not sorry but this waste of human life chose to a.) not only NOT believe her daughter when she told her she was being sexually abused by her boyfriend; and b.) continue a relationship with the same man who went TO PRISON for sexually abusing her daughter after he was released and continue to deny it even though there were pictures of them in bed together. Fuck her. She deserves none of my tears. I'm not saying I would be heart broken or anything. She is a horrible person who could have been better. I feel for her kids. I would prefer for her to turn her life around, apologize to her family and try to be a good person. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5870063
ShaNaeNae January 17, 2020 Share January 17, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 10:58 AM, Giant Misfit said: b.) continue a relationship with the same man who went TO PRISON for sexually abusing her daughter after he was released and continue to deny it even though there were pictures of them in bed together. There were pictures of that guy and her daughter in bed together? I'm horrified. Or there were picture of that guy and June and she denied the relationship? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5872278
Guest January 17, 2020 Share January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, ShaNaeNae said: Or there were picture of that guy and June and she denied the relationship? It was this. And it's no surprise that Marc McDaniel has lived in a series of hotel rooms since his release from prison. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if June and Geno were hanging out with him, too. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5872434
Armchair Critic January 24, 2020 Share January 24, 2020 Mama June's chipper, loving and optimistic message on Instagram to her kids might seem like a promising sign she's turning things around, but the problem is ... they don't believe her. Sources close to June's family tell TMZ ... they think her Thursday post -- in which she suggested she's trying to get better and says she loves and misses her children -- is a ploy to deceive the public. Exhibit A? They say the photo she used is 2 years old. We're told the family suspects this is June's way of getting some positive attention, so she can ultimately start making money through Instagram ads. They think she's desperate for cash. As for why the family is so skeptical ... our sources say June's only contacted them once recently to check on a family member who had a heart attack. They say she went radio silent again when her kids pressed her on where she was and how she was doing. Translation: They've been trying to reach her and they're available. So, to them her claim about missing them smells like BS. We're told the family's stance is the same as it's been for a long time -- they love her and want her to get help, but her BF, Geno has gotta go. Until that happens, they're all terrified of getting a phone call saying she's dead. https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/24/mama-june-family-doesnt-believe-instagram-post-money-scam/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5888437
newyawk January 24, 2020 Share January 24, 2020 Yeah, I just saw that article. I wonder who had the heart attack. I hope it wasn't Doe Doe. If it was June's disgusting mother, who cares. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5888817
ellenr33 January 24, 2020 Share January 24, 2020 I have zero sympathy for Mama June. I think shes a disgusting human being! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5889472
CrazyInAlabama January 25, 2020 Share January 25, 2020 (edited) I do not feel sorry for Mama June, but I do feel sorry for her children. When you deny your child was molested by your boyfriend, even after he's convicted, you have forfeited the right to call yourself a mother. Then when you reunite with the same person that abused that child, and have that man around your youngest daughter, you should be kept away from that child. Then for many years she refuses to admit who the father of one of her older girls is, and then it turns out that the man is in prison for years, fathered two of her girls, and is another registered sex offender. The woman has ruined every chance she's had to make a decent life for herself, and her children. I'm just glad that her youngest is out of her grasp. Edited January 25, 2020 by CrazyInAlabama 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5889975
newyawk January 25, 2020 Share January 25, 2020 I feel sorry for June in that she was raised by an atrocious excuse for a mother so she never really learned how to be a proper parent. I mean, she's practically blind because her mother neglected to get her cataract s treated when she was young. She was a teenage mother and she is largely uneducated. On top of that she is an addict. And Geno is garbage and taking advantage of/exploiting every insecurity and weakness she has. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5890816
newyawk January 26, 2020 Share January 26, 2020 Alana is 14 or 15 now. I really hope Pumpkin or some involved adult is warning her about unplanned pregnancy, etc. I am hoping Alana can do better for herself. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5892614
Armchair Critic January 26, 2020 Share January 26, 2020 Yes I worry about the effect of June abandoning Alana and that Alana will look for the love and attention she is missing and end up pregnant. It really is sad when you think that June got a chance for a new life (divorce from Sugar Bear, nice new house, makeover) and threw it away. Let alone ruining the trust her children had in her. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5893057
CrazyInAlabama January 26, 2020 Share January 26, 2020 Actually, she was never married to Sugar Bear. The whole Camo wedding dress, and ceremony was just a fake for the show. I don't think she's ever been legally married. She fooled a lot of people with that episode. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5893187
Guest January 26, 2020 Share January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Armchair Critic said: Alana will look for the love and attention she is missing and end up pregnant. The entirety of this show will be used when Alana eventually moves on to her next reality show: My 600-lb Life. Drug addict mother? Check. Molestation history in the family? Check. Using food for comfort? Check. Morbidly obese at a young age? CHECK. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5893228
Armchair Critic February 8, 2020 Share February 8, 2020 They are giving it another season https://www.eonline.com/news/1120617/mama-june-returns-home-in-we-tv-s-family-crisis 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5921005
CrazyInAlabama February 8, 2020 Share February 8, 2020 The producers, and WE TV should be ashamed to help finance this woman destroying herself. I guess they have no shame, and will do anything for ratings. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5921120
Guest February 8, 2020 Share February 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, Armchair Critic said: They are giving it another season https://www.eonline.com/news/1120617/mama-june-returns-home-in-we-tv-s-family-crisis I really wish these "news" organizations would stop sanitizing the reason TLC pulled the plug on Honey Boo Boo. It wasn't just that June was "dating a child molester," it was because June was dating the man who served his full prison term for RAPING HER OWN DAUGHTER. I never thought there was a network with lower standards for "talent" then TLC. You win, We. Congratulations. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5921147
goofygirl February 8, 2020 Share February 8, 2020 I totally agree. The best thing they could do for Mama June & Alanna is to give them some space and a chance for June to get clean. It's not helping Alanna to see that her mom is STILL gonna get a paycheck after EVERY SINGLE FREAKING THING she's done. Ugh. I can't watch this trainwreck. Too sad. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5921159
druzy February 8, 2020 Share February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Armchair Critic said: They are giving it another season https://www.eonline.com/news/1120617/mama-june-returns-home-in-we-tv-s-family-crisis 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5921180
ErikaAlyson February 9, 2020 Share February 9, 2020 Why don’t they ever show Chubs? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89980-mama-june-from-not-to-hot-seasons-1-6/page/16/#findComment-5923433
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