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9 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

lol...we lived in the TL until recently (O'Farrell). It gentrified before our eyes.

But yeah, put that dude on on Mason and Jones. Let him wander for a bit...fucking turnip truck mother fucker.

lol...I haven't read all the comments yet - I meant Ellis between Mason and Jones. Or Eddy. Or Turk. I was tired, apparently.  Sorry, had to correct myself.

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2 hours ago, druzy said:

@GreatKazu the link didn't work for the video. Is this the video? They are scary and Jenelle is disgusting. 

 

Yes, ma'am. Thank you for catching that and uploading the video. Mad props to you!

Infuriating to listen to that shit again. 

Speaking of naked children (taking from the Farrah thread) yesterday David had an image of Eggsley naked on Instagram. It is no longer on his Instagram so, I assume it was reported. 

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druzy

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6 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Help me out here. I am not very good with Twitter, as I have mentioned a few times. How is it that person can tweet such a lengthy post? 

As for the tweet itself - well written. I love it. 

@GreatKazu I think they type the post on their computer and save it as an image. They upload the image onto their twitter post.

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leighroda

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9 hours ago, Rebecca said:

 

On 2/23/2018 at 8:46 AM, Mkay said:

That was so awkward.   

Yes, and I don’t see how anyone could think Briana is attractive. Yuck.

On 2/23/2018 at 3:23 PM, druzy said:

The land is NOT paid for. He's a lying fool!

I'm attaching the first 2 pages of the mortgage.

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Lol! 

On 2/23/2018 at 5:49 PM, CaliforniaLove said:

Bring it on. Mackenzie McKee was a dope, and her boyfriend/now husband was practically catatonic, but anything is better than the McTrashertons. 

Mackenzie’s mom is dying from lung cancer and only has months to live. I...don’t want to see that play out on TM. That’s not what I come here for. And they’re so close, it’s going to destroy Mackenzie when she passes

 

I’m not good at quoting ?‍♀️

Yeah I agree, it just feels “icky” to watch someone losing their mother play out. I know Mackenzie is not being forced to film (or at least I hope not) but I don’t think she even realizes the implications of it playing out on national television, and not just on her, but her kids too. I’m all for real depictions of hard times, it can help and maybe even be therapeutic, but it can also be really painful. Once this is out there, she can’t take it back, and while maybe she can handle it, her kids have no say, even though it’ll effect them also. 

In regards to the non-apology, honestly I would rather David not apologize, it’s clear he doesn’t mean it or regret it, so it wouldn’t really do anyone any good. 

As much as I love snarking and I would miss all of you here if the franchise was cancelled, I think it’s time. I think adding Briana was the “jump the shark” moment, and now with Farrah gone and Jenelle being in jeopardy, I think it’s time to call it a day. We are running low on storylines, we’ve seen pretty much every possible scenario, weddings, divorces, babies, miscarriages, arrests, boredom, abuse, birthdays, graduations, moving, illness, disabilities, custody issues, cheating, break ups, make ups, fights, drugs, rehab... I could go on. Teen mom 3 failed for a reason, so integrating those girls into the existing seasons just doesn’t seem like it’s going to hold viewers attention, and potentially adding Mack edwards seems like an even worse idea than adding tm3. As much as I like watching the train wreck, and it is interesting to watch the kids grow up (I would live for being (insert kid here) episodes) it feels like it’s coming to a natural end.

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Lusterleaf

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Yes this show def needs to end however, it's sad that most of these teen moms really haven't made anything of themselves to make an income other than relying on teen mom money. So I think they will continue to fabricate drama to get those paychecks in. If they were smart they would realize this show isn't going to last forever and prep themselves for a real career. The only ones who have are Farrah (yes she did porn but also has a few businesses), Chelsea before she had her 2nd baby, she went to school to become an esthetician, possibly Kail if she ends up finding a broadcasting job. Amber sits on her couch, Jenelle lives on a swamp, Leah is trying to take up "motivational speaking", Catelynn and Maci both make t-shirts and not sure how much money they actually make off that, and not sure why they even brought Brianna in but she just continues to baby trap guys and then have her mom/sister badger them. 

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Nathan says he's more controlled about these things but that's only marginally/recently true. He was pretty open about his homophobia on social media a couple years ago. People are just quicker to point it out now. Jenelle has a pattern of being with guys who are racist/homophobic, etc. It's her "thing." I'm surprised she hasn't been with a straight up neo-Nazi.

Which makes me wonder if those are her views as well? Does she agree with David? Does she actually have views of her own but they're just so socially unacceptable that she doesn't share them? Or is she just extremely brain washable and will go along with anything the latest Real Man (TM) says? 

I'm also absolutely not trying to be insincere or insensitive when I say that David comes across as the next Nikolas Cruz. 

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Given Jeremy's history of racist rants, and Kail's history of the same, I find it curious that MTV would pick David to fire. I'm assuming it's because of his overall scariness as well, but it does say something about how we often react to homophobia vs. racism. Kail said some pretty openly racist stuff and Jeremy did too.

I also wonder if he's evolving in his views, or if he just saw a chance to get some attention. 

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ghoulina

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20 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Speaking of naked children (taking from the Farrah thread) yesterday David had an image of Eggsley naked on Instagram. It is no longer on his Instagram so, I assume it was reported. 

Ahhh, interesting. Because *I* reported it and Instagram told me that they reviewed it and it did NOT violate TOS. But maybe if enough people reported it?

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Rebecca

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4 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Nathan says he's more controlled about these things but that's only marginally/recently true. He was pretty open about his homophobia on social media a couple years ago. People are just quicker to point it out now. Jenelle has a pattern of being with guys who are racist/homophobic, etc. It's her "thing." I'm surprised she hasn't been with a straight up neo-Nazi.

Which makes me wonder if those are her views as well? Does she agree with David? Does she actually have views of her own but they're just so socially unacceptable that she doesn't share them? Or is she just extremely brain washable and will go along with anything the latest Real Man (TM) says? 

I'm also absolutely not trying to be insincere or insensitive when I say that David comes across as the next Nikolas Cruz. 

I just can’t picture Kiefer, for all his faults, holding these prejudice ideas. I don’t meant because he’s black, he just seems more accepting and well, sane, than the others. I hope I’m not proven wrong.   Courtland looks like a stereotype of a neo-Nazi to me but apparently he’s not based on his tweets. I think Jenelle just “takes the shape of whatever holds her” because she’s a sociopathic shell of a human with no concrete opinions on things that don’t directly involve her. I don’t think she cares one bit about the plight of anyone else but I don’t know that she’d actively go after people to hurt them unless she felt attacked herself. It’s all about Jenelle and who she hates at the time only depends on what they’ve done to her.

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littleB1rdy

littleB1rdy

2 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Given Jeremy's history of racist rants, and Kail's history of the same, I find it curious that MTV would pick David to fire. I'm assuming it's because of his overall scariness as well, but it does say something about how we often react to homophobia vs. racism. Kail said some pretty openly racist stuff and Jeremy did too.

I also wonder if he's evolving in his views, or if he just saw a chance to get some attention. 

Neither Jeremy nor Kail have made comments that come close to the absolute HATE that UBT was spewing. They’ve both made pretty ignorant comments but they’ve never gone on rants about how people of color are abominations/should be killed/wouldn’t be allowed near their children. 

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GreatKazu

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Ahhh, interesting. Because *I* reported it and Instagram told me that they reviewed it and it did NOT violate TOS. But maybe if enough people reported it?

Possibly. I just checked and I still don't see the image. 

2 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Given Jeremy's history of racist rants, and Kail's history of the same, I find it curious that MTV would pick David to fire. I'm assuming it's because of his overall scariness as well, but it does say something about how we often react to homophobia vs. racism. Kail said some pretty openly racist stuff and Jeremy did too.

I also wonder if he's evolving in his views, or if he just saw a chance to get some attention. 

I'd hardly call what Jeremy did as a rant. David's history of throwing out slurs, making threats, calling on homosexuals to be killed and how they are an abomination does not even compare to Jeremy's insensitive and idiotic tweet  (I only know of ONE instance). They are not comparable. 

You have to remember, David was saying homophobic slurs long before his firing. He used the word "fa**ot" numerous times towards the boys on the show. People complained then. He said things that alluded to his aversion and prejudice towards gays. He often went on the attack on social media and threaten to assault, sodomize, and use slurs against people. He used homophobic slurs during the last reunion. So no, MTV did not just decide to put David's head on the chopping block. David was allowed for the longest time to just be himself without any repercussions. MTV was okay with his behavior. 

Only because David decided to post an image of Jenelle holding a weapon shortly after the slaughter of 17 people on Valentine's Day, did people rise up and condemn him for being insensitive and callous about THE PHOTO. From there, he went on his rant and began throwing out slurs left and right. People fought back and decided to use Twitter to voice their disgust at MTV and Viacom. The addition of people going after the sponsors and demanding they cease business with MTV is when suddenly MTV realized they were losing money and had to do something. What MTV wanted was for David to issue an apology. MTV is showing how they much they don't care by asking a racist and homophobic person to apologize. They wanted to keep him on the show because of Jenelle. Only when push came to shove was MTV forced to remove him from the show or else they'd continue to lose sponsors...$$$$$

 

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Jenelle has a pattern of being with guys who are racist/homophobic, etc. It's her "thing.

I didn't hear or read anything from Kieffer that indicated he was racist or homophobic. Courtland just tweeted out against what David did. If Courtland was racist, chances are he wouldn't be tweeting out his support for gays and how wrong David's views are. 

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41 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

You have to remember, David was saying homophobic slurs long before his firing. He used the word "fa**ot" numerous times towards the boys on the show. People complained then. He said things that alluded to his aversion and prejudice towards gays. He often went on the attack on social media and threaten to assault, sodomize, and use slurs against people. He used homophobic slurs during the last reunion. So no, MTV did not just decide to put David's head on the chopping block. David was allowed for the longest time to just be himself without any repercussions. MTV was okay with his behavior. 

Only because David decided to post an image of Jenelle holding a weapon shortly after the slaughter of 17 people on Valentine's Day, did people rise up and condemn him for being insensitive and callous about THE PHOTO. From there, he went on his rant and began throwing out slurs left and right. People fought back and decided to use Twitter to voice their disgust at MTV and Viacom. The addition of people going after the sponsors and demanding they cease business with MTV is when suddenly MTV realized they were losing money and had to do something. 

 

Exactly. MTV and Viacom failed to act until they lost sponsors due to people directly tweeting and emailing the advertisers. When we tweeted Morgan and pointed out the insensitivity of the photo that was posted on the day of the massacre our complaints fell on deaf ears and Morgan called us "fuck-tards".

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Mkay

Mkay

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3 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Ahhh, interesting. Because *I* reported it and Instagram told me that they reviewed it and it did NOT violate TOS. But maybe if enough people reported it?

Same

The baby butt picture is still there. I just looked. It’s on Jenelle’s instagram.  Here is a screenshot. 

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3 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

MTV is showing how they much they don't care by asking a racist and homophobic person to apologize. They wanted to keep him on the show because of Jenelle. Only when push came to shove was MTV forced to remove him from the show or else they'd continue to lose sponsors...$$$$$

Agreed 100%

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36 minutes ago, bethster2000 said:

Nathan: I hope you are reading this.  Get Kaiser out of there and OFF "the land."  Now.  I am worried about your little boy's safety.

Nathan cares very little for his son.  Like Ryan, his relationship with his children is solely dependent on his own mother and how much work she is willing to do to remain connected to her grandchild. 

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Lusterleaf

Lusterleaf

49 minutes ago, bethster2000 said:

Nathan: I hope you are reading this.  Get Kaiser out of there and OFF "the land."  Now.  I am worried about your little boy's safety.

Does anyone know what happened with the custody hearing for Kaiser? I'm pretty sure Nathan's mom was trying to get custody of him due to UBT abusing him. Poor little guy. 

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

26 minutes ago, Lusterleaf said:

Does anyone know what happened with the custody hearing for Kaiser? I'm pretty sure Nathan's mom was trying to get custody of him due to UBT abusing him. Poor little guy. 

She put it on hold when her husband became ill and was admitted in the hospital. 

1 hour ago, bethster2000 said:

Nathan: I hope you are reading this.  Get Kaiser out of there and OFF "the land."  Now.  I am worried about your little boy's safety.

Jeremy called out to Nathan during his IG live post and begged him to get his child out of harm's way. 

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Christina87

Christina87

1 hour ago, Lusterleaf said:

Does anyone know what happened with the custody hearing for Kaiser? I'm pretty sure Nathan's mom was trying to get custody of him due to UBT abusing him. Poor little guy. 

I think they had to do mediation justto prove they had tried to solve it in a civil way and give jenelle a chance. Hopefully Doris will be able to take more steps soon! Kaiser would be soooooo much better off with her!!!! I bet Jenelle will be fine giving him up after she and UBT part. 

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Christina87

@FairyDusted I agree. He will want to spite jenelle, plus make up for not seeing Caden. But you know what? Scarily, he might actually be the better parent. He does everything around that house! He has hundreds of hours of footage that show him taking care of the kids while jenelle sits on her butt and bitches. I have no idea if that would be admissible, but it exists. 

When they split, jenelle will pretend she desperately wants Eggsley while she pawns Kaiser off on Doris. She'll have a long, drawn-out custody battle, while Eggsley is home alone with a bottle like Kaiser used to be. Then, whatever happens, she will meet another soulmate. If she manages to get rid of Kaiser most of the time, and UBT has Eggsley, she will go out and act childless, getting back into the hardcore druggie life. Who knows how many more abortions she will have? I especially see this happening if the show ends, and she doesn't have to "prove" she is a good mother. 

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

3 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

And I could ride with ya @lezlers EXCEPT I can't forget what she did to Chris' hair. Equally vile. JMO 

Yes ma'am. Domestic abuser. 

@druzy every time I see that you have posted on the Jenelle thread, I keep thinking it will be breaking news that she has been fired. lol 

How long before Jenelle or UBT is arrested? 

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ReadMeLattice

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8 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Possibly. I just checked and I still don't see the image. 

I'd hardly call what Jeremy did as a rant. David's history of throwing out slurs, making threats, calling on homosexuals to be killed and how they are an abomination does not even compare to Jeremy's insensitive and idiotic tweet  (I only know of ONE instance). They are not comparable. 

 

 

I think the things he said about Leah & T.R.'s imagined future babies were pretty heinous, but I agree that it certainly wasn't as violent. David is far more dangerous and criminal, not *just* bigoted.

I'm not saying David isn't a lot worse, I'm just wondering where the line is. David is more out there with his drama, but the only people MTV has fired or threatened to fire are him and Farrah. Meanwhile we've got Ryan literally endangering lives on camera with high driving and Leah high while watching her kids, and they've shown how much domestic abuse? I am pointing out that MTV doesn't really care about this, just about more fan backlash. When they try to pretend they're taking the moral high ground in any way with who they choose to 'associate' with, I just laugh.

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ReadMeLattice

ReadMeLattice

8 hours ago, Rebecca said:

I don’t think she cares one bit about the plight of anyone else but I don’t know that she’d actively go after people to hurt them unless she felt attacked herself. It’s all about Jenelle and who she hates at the time only depends on what they’ve done to her.

Yes, this is the scariest thing about her. She has no real personality or thoughts.

4 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Nathan cares very little for his son.  Like Ryan, his relationship with his children is solely dependent on his own mother and how much work she is willing to do to remain connected to her grandchild. 

That's true. Kaiser and Ensley are much worse off than Jace, though I feel bad for him as well. At least Kaiser has Doris, but he has no caring parents. Ensley has nobody at all. :(

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

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10 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

I would definitely call the Oreo thing regarding Leah and T.R. Dues (he insinuated that their next baby would be "an oreo" and hashtagged it "nasty" and then tweeted out some other thing about a future biracial baby and added "ew") more than insensitive and idiotic, but I agree that it certainly wasn't as violent. David is far more dangerous and criminal, not *just* bigoted.

I'm not saying David isn't a lot worse, I'm just wondering where the line is. David is more out there with his drama, but the only people MTV has fired or threatened to fire are him and Farrah. Meanwhile we've got Ryan literally endangering lives on camera with high driving and Leah high while watching her kids, and they've shown how much domestic abuse? I am pointing out that MTV doesn't really care about this, just about more fan backlash. When they try to pretend they're taking the moral high ground in any way with who they choose to 'associate' with, I just laugh.

Yeah, that was pretty much my point and what I posted. MTV only cared when their sponsors began pulling out. People have gone after MTV for many of the actions and criminal acts committed by the cast members. This time, their hands were tied and were forced to fire David after he refused to apologized. In the past, they have been able to get these people to enter rehab for "stress and anxiety", offer apologies and give a voice-over (Jenelle about her dogs). 

What Jeremy tweeted and what Kail has said and tweeted with regards to people of color, is inexcusable without a doubt. When violence is threatened upon another group, especially on a day when 15 children and 2 adults were gunned down, that takes things to a whole other level especially when that person has a history and a pattern of violence. 

 

4 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

Well rage and hysteria are on her list. Not that that's a good thing! LOL She sure has lots of thoughts on her mother.

Rage, lots of rage. She attacked her friend over a hoodie! 

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