In The Media: DWTS

[Dots And Stripes]

2 hours ago, Uke said:

I wonder why Laurie got Duck Tales from a tv show/movie that began and ended long before she was even born (1990) instead of either the Olympic music or Katy Perry's Rise (the theme song for this Olympics).  I guess the Olympic Committee wouldn't give permission but I'd think Rise would be available for permissions.  Also a little disappointed she gets another high-energy dance (Jive).  I wanted to see her with something slower and in hold or partially in hold.

I don't consider Rise a tv theme song. No way would NBC allow another network to clear the Olympic theme. Duck Tales will let Laurie be cute and play to her strength. IMO, it's better when everything isn't too on the nose. 

Ryan is also an Olympain though he's lucky they aren't making him dance to flipper.

[Uke]

1 hour ago, Dots And Stripes said:

I don't consider Rise a tv theme song. No way would NBC allow another network to clear the Olympic theme. Duck Tales will let Laurie be cute and play to her strength. IMO, it's better when everything isn't too on the nose. 

Ryan is also an Olympain though he's lucky they aren't making him dance to flipper.

Unfortunately the wiki for Rise ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_(Katy_Perry_song) ) doesn't indicate whether Perry sold the rights to the song to NBC or merely licensed the use and I don't know where I'd look for that info.

I hope we're not going to get a whole season of "cute" with Laurie. We already know she does that well, and, for me, that'll run thin real quick.  IMO the only way Val will really be able to stretch her skills and pull her out of her comfort zone is to tap into more emotional performances - get her out of rote Olympic performance mode and into a more real place.

[kitcloudkicker]

Maks explains the format for next week's shortened show (it sounds like a train wreck, but hey, maybe it will be an entertaining train wreck.)

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/21/maksim-chmerkovskiy-dancing-stars-season-23-week-2

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Next week will be the presidential debates, and we will only have an hour-long show. So, the format will be different — it’s going to be a face off. They split us into six groups of two pairs, and each pair has the same style of dance. So we’ll each dance, and then we get a score, and whoever has the higher score will have immunity from elimination.

[Mittengirl]

If Xfinity's cable guide is correct, next Monday's show is one hour, yet Tuesday's results show is 2 hours.  I shudder to think what kind of filler they will come up with.

[jennifer6973]

Yep, because the debates are that night.

[LennieBriscoe]

Anybody try for a Tour ticket? I barely got a decent one, because I'm not paying $400 or $300 for the first ten rows!

[dwtsgueststars]

Can we discuss this? Most likely regarding tonight's male pro number

 

[MsJamieDornan]

3 hours ago, dwtsgueststars said:

 

Can we discuss this? Most likely regarding tonight's male pro number

 

I'm lost,,help me out???

[dwtsgueststars]

Tonight male pros will dance something choreographed by Mandy Moore. Derek tweeted about it and then deleted it. Afterwords, Val tweeted about Derek's tweet.

[ocelot]

Why is Derek only complaining about this now. There have been so many horrendous female pro numbers, including that recent one. 

[MsJamieDornan]

5 hours ago, dwtsgueststars said:

Afterwords, Val tweeted about Derek's tweet.

Thanks, it was Val's tweet that I didnt quite understand.

[truthaboutluv]

It's really simple - Derek, true to his passive aggressive nature, tweeted a passive aggressive swipe about Mandy's shitty "let's strip and eye-sex the camera and call it dancing" choreography (which for the record, in my opinion, he's not wrong), Val whose ego is second maybe only to his brother and is self absorbed enough to think everything is about him, responded. Derek, again true to the nature of someone passive aggressive, deleted the tweets but not before the Hough and Chmerkovskiy factions got in on the drama in response to the tweets. Rinse, lather and repeat.

[vavera4ka]

i stopped reading after "apart of" lol

[truthaboutluv]

Be glad he didn't have to use either "their" or "there" or "your" and "you're". I like Derek but grammar is not his strong suit. 

[Princt1]

1 hour ago, truthaboutluv said:

 I like Derek but grammar is not his strong suit. 

And then there's Val. (See above--"them" "than" .) And yes, I realize he came from another country. Once upon a time.)

PS: Not starting a D/V war; jus sayin'. Grammar nut here.

Edited October 5, 2016 by campbellcat

[MsJamieDornan]

Well, no one was stripping tonight !

[vavera4ka]

11 hours ago, campbellcat said:

And then there's Val. (See above--"them" "than" .) And yes, I realize he came from another country. Once upon a time.)

PS: Not starting a D/V war; jus sayin'. Grammar nut here.

i'll give him a pass on "them" cause it's a... slang I guess...

"than" on the other hand lol no

good thing they are both good looking? lol though neither is my type... please tell me Artem has better grammar LMAO 

[truthaboutluv]

I do give Val a pass on any grammar mistakes he may make because English is not his first language. Yes, he's lived in the US for almost 20 years but the fact is his family is still Russian, I get the impression they still speak it regularly to each other and at the end of the day that's his native tongue. So confusing a few similar sounding English words is understandable in my opinion. Now Derek, I judge him because what's his excuse.

[RedFiat]

Information on Week 5 is up 

http://www.justjaredjr.com/2016/10/06/dancing-with-the-stars-season-23-week-five-most-memorable-year-song-dance-list-revealed/

Next week on Dancing With The Stars, the celebs will commemorate their Most Memorable Year!

On Monday’s episode (October 10), the remaining couples will dance to a song of the celebrity’s choosing that encompasses a memorable time or truly incredible experience in their life. These heartfelt performances promise to showcase some of the most exciting choreography and emotional routines of the season yet. 

Each celebrity will perform aViennese waltz, paso doblé, tango, jazz, contemporary, foxtrot or samba. In addition, international phenomenon André Rieu, known to millions around the world as “The King of the Waltz,” is set to perform. Rieu is the first artist to appear on the show along with a full 60-piece orchestra to perform a major opening number with “My Heart Will Go On.”

Here’s what songs the celebs are dancing to:
Marilu Henner & Derek Hough – Viennese Waltz – “Surprise Yourself” by Jack Garratt
Laurie Hernandez & Valentin Chmerkovskiy – Paso Doblé – “Rise” by Katy Perry
James Hinchcliffe & Sharna Burgess – Tango – “The Right Time” by Yves V featuring Mike James
Calvin Johnson Jr. & Lindsay Arnold – Jazz – “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” by Marvin Gayeand Tammi Terrell
Terra Jolé & Sasha Farber – Contemporary – “Stand by Me” by Florence + The Machine
Jana Kramer & Gleb Savchenko – Contemporary – “In My Daughter’s Eyes” by Martina McBride
Ryan Lochte & Cheryl Burke – Contemporary – “A Song for You” by Leon Russell
Maureen McCormick & Artem Chigvintsev – Foxtrot – “From the Ground Up” by Dan + Shay
Amber Rose & Maksim Chmerkovskiy – Samba – “Woman Up” by Meghan Trainor

Dancing With The Stars airs Monday, October 10th on ABC.

 

(ETA: my note: it doesn't say anything about an elimination, so those who guessed no elimination this week are probably correct) 

Edited October 6, 2016 by RedFiat

[McManda]

Yay ... one third of the show is contemporaries! My favorite! Oh ... wait, no, I hate the contemporaries. If I could 86 one dance style on this show it would for sure, without a doubt, be contemporary 

And coupled with "most memorable week"? I can already tell I'm not going to be a fan of this week ... but maybe I should invest in Proctor and Gamble, because Castle Ann might drive the demand for Kleenex up with the amount of crying she's bound to do. 

Edited October 6, 2016 by McManda

[kitcloudkicker]

Team dances are next week -- with Laurie and James as captains, teams are: 

"Team Future" - Laurie, Terra, Marilu, and Jana

"Team Past" - James, Calvin, Ryan, and Maureen

According to the source at Pure (I know, I know, not trying to start a Pure discussion, but their intel on teams, specifically, is usually accurate) the "Future" song is a techno-something that both Derek and Val flinched at when they heard it. Team "Past" allegedly has the theme from Outlander. 

On paper, Ryan and Maureen are the weakest dancers, so I'd be inclined to put that team at a disadvantage, but a Lindsey/Sharna/Cheryl choreo combination could be good. I'm curious how bad the future song is, really. 

[McManda]

Hmm ... I love Outlander and its theme, but it's not really flashy at all. It's slow really and never really picks up. It definitely not something I would have pegged for them to pick for a team dance.

I always cringe a bit when the team dances are stacked by celeb gender. I think it would be so much pressure to keep up with the pros of your gender. Maureen's going to have tough time keeping with Cheryl/Sharna/Lindsay, but maybe they can help her in ways Artem can't. 

[RedFiat]

I assume the dances are freestyles, I went and listened to Outlander and it's a Viennese Waltz tempo.  It would be kinda of cool to  see the men in Kilts with the lassies doing a turn around the dance floor.  Everyone but James has had Viennese Waltz, and I'm pretty sure that's something he could do.  I look forward to it, We have had an overkill of electronic music this season, but the Andre Rieu  VWaltz opener was a sight for sore eyes.   This too will be a nice change, I think.  

[McManda]

Oh, I think the Outlander theme has fantastic potential for a dance. It's just a weird pick on DWTS, with its penchant for lasers and club grinding and fast and flashy. It's something I would have expected Strictly to pick, though I could see it being incorporated into a theme night (like tv theme night).

I'm actually excited to see what they do with it.

Edited October 19, 2016 by McManda

[vavera4ka]

12 hours ago, McManda said:

Hmm ... I love Outlander and its theme, but it's not really flashy at all. It's slow really and never really picks up. It definitely not something I would have pegged for them to pick for a team dance.

I always cringe a bit when the team dances are stacked by celeb gender. I think it would be so much pressure to keep up with the pros of your gender. Maureen's going to have tough time keeping with Cheryl/Sharna/Lindsay, but maybe they can help her in ways Artem can't. 

IIRC it's a waltz... it can be a gorgeous dance with intricate floor pattern "drawn" by couples... I don't want it to be Scott fashion inspired though, but like in the opening credits - Druid.

I remember on SYYCD at some point Pasha and Lacey had a waltz to some beautiful Irish melody. It's still one of my favorite waltzes in any dancing competition show.

Outlander dance has great potential.

Edited October 19, 2016 by vavera4ka

[RedFiat]

http://www.justjaredjr.com/tags/dancing-with-the-stars/

Eras Night is returning to Dancing With The Stars next week!

We don’t know about you, but JJJLOVES Eras Night.

The night will showcases popular music throughout the eras from the 1920s through the 1990s with each celebrity performing a quickstep, rumba, Charleston, jive, tango, foxtrot, samba or jitterbug.

In addition, the celebrities and their pros will be grouped into two teams – Team Past and Team Future – with each performing a dance to celebrate songs and dance styles from  previous decades through present day. The team dance scores will be combined with the celebrity’s individual dance scores for a final tally. At the end of evening, one couple will be eliminated from the ballroom competition. 

Here’s the song, era & dance list:
Marilu Henner & Derek Hough – Charleston – “Never Forget You” by Scott Bradlee’s Postmodern Jukebox featuring Addie Hamilton (1920s)
Terra Jolé & Sasha Farber – Foxtrot – “Cheek to Cheek” by Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong (1930s)
James Hinchcliffe & Sharna Burgess – Jitterbug – “In the Mood” by Glenn Miller and His Orchestra (1940s)
Calvin Johnson Jr. & Lindsay Arnold – Jive – “Good Golly Miss Molly” by Little Richard (1950s)
Laurie Hernandez & Val Chmerkovskiy – Quickstep – “One Fine Day” by The Chiffons (1960s)
Jana Kramer & Gleb Savchenko – Samba – “Get Down Tonight” by KC and the Sunshine Band (1970s)
Maureen McCormick & Artem Chigvintsev – Tango – “You Give Love a Bad Name” by Bon Jovi (1980s)
Ryan Lochte & Cheryl Burke – Rumba – “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing” by Aerosmith (1990s)

The Teams:
Team Past: James & Sharna, Calvin & Lindsay, Ryan & Cheryl, Maureen and Artem.
Team Future: Marilu & Derek; Laurie & Val; Terra & Sasha, and Jana & Gleb.

[Uke]

Terra and Sasha "Cheek to Cheek"?

Jana & Gleb "Get Down Tonight"? 

Oooookaaaay...

Edited October 20, 2016 by Uke

[katha]

1 hour ago, Uke said:

Terra and Sasha "Cheek to Cheek"?

Jana & Gleb "Get Down Tonight"? 

Oooookaaaay...

This show is proud to be a trainwreck! (-;

[majormama]

Two of my favorite performances have come from Eras night, oddly enough both paso dobles and both with Derek: the Paso from the Future with Joanna Krupa and the 50's Paso with Nicole Scherzinger.

 

Edited October 20, 2016 by majormama

[vavera4ka]

So show is on a steady "make it look closer than it is" train...

Give Laurie a technically difficult ballroom, while the closest competition is getting flashy and crazy dances.

I mean I personally love quickstep, and I feel like it suits Laurie's personality well, but putting it next to Jitterbug or Charlston or Jive... An automatic -1 in score on each judge...

Poor Terra is getting screwed the most though lol

[McManda]

5 hours ago, vavera4ka said:

 

So show is on a steady "make it look closer than it is" train...

Give Laurie a technically difficult ballroom, while the closest competition is getting flashy and crazy dances.

I mean I personally love quickstep, and I feel like it suits Laurie's personality well, but putting it next to Jitterbug or Charlston or Jive... An automatic -1 in score on each judge...

Poor Terra is getting screwed the most though lol

 

I'd disagree, I'd say Ryan is getting screwed the hardest. Men traditionally have a hard time impressing with a rumba, and he's already but the greatest dancer. 

Laurie will be fine with the quickstep. 

[katha]

This is only Laurie's second ballroom dance, it's time she did more of that. They've also given her a lovely song that isn't overly sugary (I think moving away a bit from that aspect of her stage persona is a good thing). I'd also say Val is one of the strongest quickstep choreographers around (Danica's, Janel's, Tamar's and Ginger's were all highlight dances IMO). It's not an easy dance and it's very technical, and it's true that she's going against dance styles that look more spectacular and have fewer rules, but that's true for everybody else as well with the way dance rotations are set up now.

[RedFiat]

Definitely when danced well, the Quickstep can be a show stopper.  My favorite female QS was Sabrina and Louie in the All Stars season, just unbelievable technique, was a showstopper and the encore,  and of course Helio and Julianne's from Season 5.  Still the one you can't forget.  

[RedFiat]

Jana and Gleb have an opportunity to incorporate some really fun disco moves in the Samba.  My favorite Eras Samba was Mya and Dmitry. to Bad Girls..  Not many can match this girl's technique, but check out the hair and porn stash on Dmitry.  This is the same tempo as KC and the Sunshine band, and could be a lot of fun.  But Jana has to measure up on  the technical awesomeness of Mya, dancing on a sprained ankle for most of the competition. 

[RedFiat]

7 hours ago, vavera4ka said:

So show is on a steady "make it look closer than it is" train...

Give Laurie a technically difficult ballroom, while the closest competition is getting flashy and crazy dances.

I mean I personally love quickstep, and I feel like it suits Laurie's personality well, but putting it next to Jitterbug or Charlston or Jive... An automatic -1 in score on each judge...

Poor Terra is getting screwed the most though lol

Or put an easy walk and pose Jazz to a beloved Michael Jackson video you grew up on against a technical Quickstep on a night with supposedly  no rules.  The easy steps are fawned over while a slight mess up on the QS means you be docked 2 points.  Val has got to start doing what he did for Zendaya, find an age appropriate story to choreograph for her and she will nail it.. 

Edited October 20, 2016 by RedFiat

[vavera4ka]

What I'm expecting from In the Mood is to finally see what was happening in Stephen King's "11.22.63". That music (and dancing to it) was like a separate character in the book, but was very underwhelming in the series. 

[kitcloudkicker]

What do we think, someone headed to LA for the Broadway themed episode next week?

[Uke]

55 minutes ago, kitcloudkicker said:

What do we think, someone headed to LA for the Broadway themed episode next week?

I was wondering about this.  But Idina Menzel has already announced she's guest judging. What would Mark do?  Sing one of the Jersey Boys songs maybe?

[crowceilidh]

It would be excellent marketing for everyone involved to have Mark and a few understudies do a number.

[RedFiat]

There was a tweet out there that said next week was Showstoppers Week,  in which 2 couples do a tribute dance from a Broadway show. If true, Idina Menzel is kind of perfect for judging- maybe there will be something from Wicked?

Couples are to do an individual showstopper dance and then a Team showstopper

 Teams are to be one team Calvin and Lindsay with James and Sharna (or Jenna) /    Laurie and Val and Jana and Gleb,  and /Sasha and Terra with Derek and Marilu.   They are supposed to travel to NYC.   Perhaps Mark is involved somehow. 

[RemoteControl88]

I couldn't tell from the video if they will do a regular individual dance...then the showstopper team up dance. I would think so.  If both dances are supposed to be showstoppers it will be overkill I think.

[majormama]

Couldn't help but notice in that video every couple was standing together except Derek and Marilu, who had James and Jenna between them.

[RedFiat]

He said there were 2 rounds of showstoppers.  One the individual, and the other the team. James and Calvin have Paso as their team showstopper, so that will be fun.  Calvin hasn't had this and James will want to improve on the Zombie Paso that he only had a day and half to learn and rehearse.   

It might be overkill, but only 3 or 4  of the 6 remaining will be travelling to NYC to do a broadway inspired individual dance.  I'm not sure but it doesn't sound like the team dance is necessarily broadway, even though they were broadway type dances in the past.   Since James and Sharna already travelled to NYC for the Broadway Paramour Cirque du Soleil dance, I'm guessing they won't be going, and now especially since Sharna's injury it's more likely they will stay back.    

Edited November 2, 2016 by RedFiat

[RemoteControl88]

4 hours ago, majormama said:

Couldn't help but notice in that video every couple was standing together except Derek and Marilu, who had James and Jenna between them.

It's clear to me they aren't getting along/aren't on the same page. In the BTS footage when Marilu said she "felt pushed." There was really only I way for me to take that....that she was saying Derek pushed her (BTW I don't think he did...the choreo called for them to push away from each other...I think she just tripped).  I just don't think he appreciates her saying that...making him look bad.  There is tension between them for sure.  This partnership reminds me of Val & Elizabeth Berkley.  Now I don't think things got this bad between V & E.  But I do think she was annoying...and wanted to put her 2 cents into the choreo and thought she knew what was best.  I don't think D & M are having the exact same issues but there seems to be a similar dynamic going on.

[truthaboutluv]

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This partnership reminds me of Val & Elizabeth Berkley.  Now I don't think things got this bad between V & E.  But I do think she was annoying...and wanted to put her 2 cents into the choreo and thought she knew what was best. 

That partnership delivered one of my favorite Val moments on the show. The producers told the pairings to ask each other one thing about the other that annoyed them. Val tells Elizabeth that she had a tendency to overthink things. Elizabeth responds, completely overeager and intense, "do you mean I overthink the steps or like the choreography, technique..." Val just quietly stared at her and went, "exactly..."

[katha]

Yeah, I see a lot of blame towards Derek for how this is playing out with Marilu and sure, he's responsible as a pro. But the whole situation just strikes me as one of those things where the pairing is a mismatch.  Derek's clearly tried everything and now it seems like he's hit a wall and doesn't know what to do anymore.

[WhosThatGirl]

34 minutes ago, katha said:

Yeah, I see a lot of blame towards Derek for how this is playing out with Marilu and sure, he's responsible as a pro. But the whole situation just strikes me as one of those things where the pairing is a mismatch.  Derek's clearly tried everything and now it seems like he's hit a wall and doesn't know what to do anymore.

I think this may be the first time this has happened to Derek though. He doesn't really go though hardships with his partners. And this is the first time in a long time where he isn't away so much during a partnership. Marilu asked is this because we don't have Much time together and Derek said something like this is the most time I've had with a partner or something. I can't recall Derek's teaching style ever running into a problem like this before. 

And I don't think it's either of their faults. It really just is a mismatch partnership. It's just interesting because Derek hasn't had this problem. No partnership will ever be as bad as Maks and Hope though.

[kitcloudkicker]

I don't think Derek and Marilu are the greatest of partnerships, but I do think that friction between them has been slightly overblown. Derek told us a week or two ago that his strategy was going to be giving Marilu less information to make it harder for her to overthink it. (He was dropping his perfectionist  strategy, even forbidding her from counting, trying to knock her out of her head and more into her feelings, etc.) I really think some of the "coldness" was that playing out -- he's trying not to give her the information she's pestering him about. Even Maks, when he was on All Access was all, my advice is Marilu needs to calm the eff down and trust Derek.

Is it his most successful partnership? Nah. Is it probably about time for them to end their run? Yes. Do they probably butt heads a bit? Also yes. But I don't think it's been a complete disaster either. She was lovely in the Taxi dance and the Viennese Waltz, and had a few other nice moments as well.

[truthaboutluv]

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No partnership will ever be as bad as Maks and Hope though.

Really...not even Tony and Kate Gosselin? 

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But I don't think it's been a complete disaster either. 

YMMV but I think this pairing is the definition of a complete disaster largely because Marilu was capable. The best dancer, absolutely not. But she definitely had the ability to be way better than she has been. She is in great shape, has natural rhythm and has, whether you like him or not, arguably one of the best Pros on the show and her overthinking, too much intensity and whatever else has made her time on the show a huge disappointment. And the more that reality sinks in, the more skittish and more in her own head she's become.

Tom mentioned in the first week how much Marilu loved the show, as someone who knows her personally I guess. So this woman has been a huge fan of this show, got her dream Pro and now weeks later, all the fun, excitement and joy is just gone from her. It is painful watching the disappointment all over her face and in her eyes.

And then Derek is looking frustrated and pained as well because he probably does take some of the blame on himself because he's a perfectionist too and one of his strengths as a Pro has always been figuring out how to work around his celebrities' weakness and still make them shine. And it's just not happening with Marilu. Yeah I'd qualify this one as a disaster. 

Edited November 2, 2016 by truthaboutluv

[WhosThatGirl]

Tony and Kate were bad but tony at least was patient with Kate, Maks and Hope were fighting every week. I still remember the team dance when Maks got fed up helping Hope and left and Derek stepped in to help Hope.