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Oooh that is NOT a good shade for homegirl. It's a nice shade overall, but fairskinned girls have to be selective with their shades, especially when they have thin lips like hers and making those pinched facial expressions. Her friend can wear those shades because she actually has something to put it on.

With her paycheck she could afford some fillers--they actually made Jenelle look like she had something before. But harsh makeup on an already severe-looking woman...I'm no make up artist, but I think she could do better.

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11 hours ago, monagatuna said:

Oooh that is NOT a good shade for homegirl. It's a nice shade overall, but fairskinned girls have to be selective with their shades, especially when they have thin lips like hers and making those pinched facial expressions. Her friend can wear those shades because she actually has something to put it on.

With her paycheck she could afford some fillers--they actually made Jenelle look like she had something before. But harsh makeup on an already severe-looking woman...I'm no make up artist, but I think she could do better.

Eh, I hate the idea that thin lips are something to be "fixed." Nothing wrong with them, IMO.

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12 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

That SeneGence make up is awful stuff!  It already made the rounds in my area and quickly fizzled after about a year.  Our neighbor across the street was selling it, and she would not leave me alone until I let her give me a "make over."   I don't wear much make up at all and she made me look like a clown.  I felt so stupid, but the worst part was to get her to leave me alone I had to buy a tube of that LipSense crap which I immediately put in the trash.  I don't remember exactly how much it cost.  Around $30 I think.  She did leave me alone though and considering how she harrassed me over buying some of the shit it was money well wasted.

It is very heavy and gaudy make up.  Like stuff morticians would use on corpses or theater actors would need.

I don't wear lipstick (I'm paranoid of having it on my teeth), I'm a gloss girl.  but $30 sounds absolutely exorbitant.  Is it?

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42 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Eh, I hate the idea that thin lips are something to be "fixed." Nothing wrong with them, IMO.

As a thin lipped girl myself, I agree, and would never do anything to alter them (not because I think they're great, but they're still not something I consider a flaw that needs to be fixed), but I'm still surprised this is something Leah hasn't done. Not saying she needs to, just saying she's the type who would want to try this.

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17 minutes ago, teapot said:

I don't wear lipstick (I'm paranoid of having it on my teeth), I'm a gloss girl.  but $30 sounds absolutely exorbitant.  Is it?

I took the time to look on the senegence site and the Lip Sense crap is $25.  The gloss to go over it is another $20 but I know I didn't buy any of that.  I was just buying something to get the neighbor to stop bugging me and she did.  I was so happy when she moved.

I bet people who know Leah brace themselves when they see her coming because they know she is going to do a hard sell on make up.

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6 minutes ago, AirQuotes said:

I took the time to look on the senegence site and the Lip Sense crap is $25.  The gloss to go over it is another $20 but I know I didn't buy any of that.  I was just buying something to get the neighbor to stop bugging me and she did.  I was so happy when she moved.

I bet people who know Leah brace themselves when they see her coming because they know she is going to do a hard sell on make up.

oh man, sorry you're out $25, I'm sure that money could've gone to something better!

anyway, I hear you...I have the coworker hawking fabric bags, the one hawking shakeology, the one hawking insanely patterned leggings...the only one I'm happy about is the one hawking Girl Scout cookies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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1 minute ago, teapot said:

oh man, sorry you're out $25, I'm sure that money could've gone to something better!

anyway, I hear you...I have the coworker hawking fabric bags, the one hawking shakeology, the one hawking insanely patterned leggings...the only one I'm happy about is the one hawking Girl Scout cookies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was over 4 years ago so I'm recovered. lol

I'm surprised to see Leah just now getting in on it now because it was trending heavy in my area of Louisiana for about a year.  It was a  saturated market for sure, but I guess maybe that stuff takes a while to really flow around (like an ooze) to different parts of the country.

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21 minutes ago, Tatum said:

As a thin lipped girl myself, I agree, and would never do anything to alter them (not because I think they're great, but they're still not something I consider a flaw that needs to be fixed), but I'm still surprised this is something Leah hasn't done. Not saying she needs to, just saying she's the type who would want to try this.

It definitely seems like it. But isn't Leah (and Caitlynn) one of the only ones who hasn't had any type of "enhancement" or plastic surgery?

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I thought Leah had had a boob job? Did I make that up?

 

ETA: I googled "Leah Messer plastic surgery". She denies having implants, but the word on social media is she does. Looking at that pic of her in a bikini top, she does have that weird gap between her breasts that is often indicative of a subpar boob job.

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1 hour ago, teapot said:

oh man, sorry you're out $25, I'm sure that money could've gone to something better!

anyway, I hear you...I have the coworker hawking fabric bags, the one hawking shakeology, the one hawking insanely patterned leggings...the only one I'm happy about is the one hawking Girl Scout cookies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell is it about the patterned leggings? I see a few people pushing them on Facebook from time to time. How are they any different than the ordinary ones you can buy at the department store? Frankly, the ones I have seen are pretty damn ugly. Didn't Amber wear some in a few episodes this past season? Catelynn was wearing them. She looked horrible as usual. Wasn't Leah wearing them in the scene when she picked up Cheeto?

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I'm on board with crazy patterned leggings, the uglier the better--I'm about to buy a pair of Maryland flag leggings and I plan on wearing them with pride--but I can't get on board with any MLM. I did Insanity for a couple of years and kept getting hounded by "Beachbody coaches" to do...whatever it is they do as "coaches." My niece started selling Younique a few months ago and my sister got on my case for not buying any, since I wear makeup. I'm sure the stuff is good enough, but their business practices and the fact that they're not cruelty-free made my wallet stay shut. I want to support my niece but I think she's getting a raw deal, and my conscience nags me.

I think if Leah and Germy had stayed married, she would've wasted all of BOTH of their money on scams like this, rather than just her own. What I don't get is why she bounces from scam to scam instead of sticking with one. With her large, gullible fan base, I have to believe just her presence on social media would be enough to get the orders flowing in.

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23 minutes ago, monagatuna said:

I'm on board with crazy patterned leggings, the uglier the better--I'm about to buy a pair of Maryland flag leggings and I plan on wearing them with pride--but I can't get on board with any MLM. I did Insanity for a couple of years and kept getting hounded by "Beachbody coaches" to do...whatever it is they do as "coaches." My niece started selling Younique a few months ago and my sister got on my case for not buying any, since I wear makeup. I'm sure the stuff is good enough, but their business practices and the fact that they're not cruelty-free made my wallet stay shut. I want to support my niece but I think she's getting a raw deal, and my conscience nags me.

I think if Leah and Germy had stayed married, she would've wasted all of BOTH of their money on scams like this, rather than just her own. What I don't get is why she bounces from scam to scam instead of sticking with one. With her large, gullible fan base, I have to believe just her presence on social media would be enough to get the orders flowing in.

and do you know, it is *not* easy.  I sold lingerie back when boy-child was an infant (you can make! your! own! hours!) and this was pre-internet, so my friends and relatives would have parties, but basically all anyone knew was the same people, so you'd show the same stuff to the same people.  I'm not a very aggressive person by nature, and I ended up breaking even, so at least I didn't lose anything...but I don't think MLM is for me! (although it's definitely easier now with the internet!)

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5 minutes ago, teapot said:

and do you know, it is *not* easy.  I sold lingerie back when boy-child was an infant (you can make! your! own! hours!) and my friends and relatives would have parties, but basically all anyone knew was the same people, so you'd show the same stuff to the same people.  I'm not a very aggressive person by nature, and I ended up breaking even, so at least I didn't lose anything...but I don't think MLM is for me!

It only just dawned on me that those "adult novelty" parties must in fact use this very same business model, which means that in all likelihood, there is a storage locker just waiting to be uncovered that contains cartons of dildos because someone tried to use that plan to get out of financial insolvency. There are people who have only the first bulk order that they purchased but couldn't sell, they have all that stuff in a closet somewhere, and someday, a child will discover it and think "Why the fuck do mom and dad need a dozen gag balls??"

I can't decide if I hope that such a discovery is made only after the parent passes away and the adult children are cleaning out the old house..."Hey look, here's our old report cards! Awwww, mom kept all the baby shoes...and here's the ornament collection...what's in this box here? Let's see...oh my god. There has to be forty feet worth of anal beads in here, what the fucking fuck mom and dad!!!" or...

It happens when they're relocating the older parent to an assisted living facility, discover the box that mom forgot about, and mom just plays it off like "Yeah, your father and I let our freak flag fly, now throw that out. Hold up, let me take a few things first, actually." "MOM!" "What? I like to be reminded of your father, you know," as she lovingly strokes an old Rabbit.  

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1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

What the hell is it about the patterned leggings? I see a few people pushing them on Facebook from time to time. How are they any different than the ordinary ones you can buy at the department store? Frankly, the ones I have seen are pretty damn ugly. Didn't Amber wear some in a few episodes this past season? Catelynn was wearing them. She looked horrible as usual. Wasn't Leah wearing them in the scene when she picked up Cheeto?

I know, right? I remember wearing patterned tights in the early 90's. Good times.

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This is probably venturing into dangerously off topic territory, but I'm seriously considering quitting Facebook because it's becoming all people pushing their MLMs shakes, nails, candles, jewelry, face wash, leggings... I'm so tired of how everything is going to "change my life" regular posts of friends and family are fewer and further between. My biggest pet peeve is when I get a message, I get excited because it's always fun to get a personal message from someone you know, but then they are always "have you heard x great product" a widespread skincare line is the biggest offender, and I'm quickly let down that this person couldn't care less about me, they just want to add to their sales (well they usually dont even want you to buy, they want you to sell under them). 

Leah seems to be the one who pushes these the most, didn't she do scentsy? We know she did mary kay, this one, I feel like maybe some vitamin supplements. I guess if you had the number of social media followers she does and people who will buy simply because she is a second rate MTV "star" it's not the worst idea, I bet people sign up to sell under her just because they think it's a way to be in contact with her. But I still hate the MLM model.

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I get really annoyed by the MLM's too. People on FB act like you owe it to them to buy their stuff so they won't have to get a job. Excuse me...I have a real job, which I need to pay my bills, not use it on ugly leggings I don't need. Also, I feel like a lot don't realize that when you start your "business," most of your customers are only pity buying. I did that when a coworker started selling LuLaRoe, but I gave the skirt I bought as a gift (there were none in my size), and never plan to buy again because it's overpriced and not my style. She keeps inviting many of us to incessant LuLaRoe parties, and no one ever goes. I think it's easy to overestimate how much money you will make due to initial pity purchases. 

Also, I was at a work conference and had a creepy experience. A friend and I were going for a walk around a scenic mountain area when this lady careened off the road and parked right where we were walking. She jumped out of her car and asked for directions to the nearest gas station or something, and then preceded to hawk Arbonne like crazy. She gave us samples, cards, and about an hour lecture on how great it was and how her daughter quit her job as a nurse to stay home because of her great sales. My friend thought this woman was just having a polite conversation, and kept saying things like, "I stayed home too when my kids were little," which would egg the woman on even more and help her think of a few more selling points. She even wanted us to contact her because she had a pretend interest in attending the convention the next year. 

Haha sorry for the novel...this just really irritates me, and the fact that Leah does it is nooooo surprise! 

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On January 7, 2017 at 9:43 AM, shelley1005 said:

All of this has nothing to do with Teen Mom....however, there is nothing wrong with LuLaRoe leggings.  If you think they are ugly, don't buy them.  I love my cute little leggings with flowers and heart shaped sunglasses on them.  

The problem with LLR, Scentsy, Mary Kay, LipSense, and every other MLM out there is the predatory business model that is bad for both the seller (a tiny fraction of a percent actually make money because, ya know, pyramid scheme) and the buyer (commoditizing familial relationships and friendships for crap product). But, it doesn't surprise me in the least that Leah has gotten suckered into a few of these schemes. She is, sadly, a walking stereotype of who these companies target. Leah is going to be one of those people--we all have at least 1 in our lives--who goes from MLM to MLM for the rest of her life, constantly proclaiming that each one will be "the next big thing" until it isn't.

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10 hours ago, shelley1005 said:

All of this has nothing to do with Teen Mom....however, there is nothing wrong with LuLaRoe leggings.  If you think they are ugly, don't buy them.  I love my cute little leggings with flowers and heart shaped sunglasses on them.  

I think there are lots of things wrong with LulaRoe, and none of them have to do with the leggings themselves (which are quite comfy to feel, although I don't wear such articles of clothing myself). Quite a few reality tv "stars" sell them, including Meri from SISTER WIVES, and I am sure it won't be long until one of the Teen Mom girls (probably Leah) gets on the bandwagon. A $5,000 upfront "starter" fee to buy into the products, little to no control over what products you actually get, the fact that only 2% of those selling the products actually earn real money from the business model, the badgering of friends and family members to buy the products, the confusing ecommerce setups that strongly discourage actual sites to purchase in lieu of online pop-up events that are confusing and convoluted at best, the manipulative and pushy sales tactics the organization encourages sellers to use, the more than 50% mark-ups on items that are generally not superior quality to begin with... These all specifically apply to LulaRoe but can be said about many other MLM and pyramid schemes-including the ones Leah has been a part of. These women are not true business owners, no matter what the higher ups claim; they have less control than Subway franchise owners. I do own and operate a successful publishing and consulting business. There is a vast difference between what they do and what most of us who own and operate our businesses do. 

That doesn't mean, of course, that I don't still love my Microdermabrasion Mary Kay set. 

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18 hours ago, Uncle JUICE said:

It only just dawned on me that those "adult novelty" parties must in fact use this very same business model, which means that in all likelihood, there is a storage locker just waiting to be uncovered that contains cartons of dildos because someone tried to use that plan to get out of financial insolvency. 

 

Oh please, PLEASE let me be the one to bid on such a unit! Sooo many people in my small, conservative, mountain town I'd like to send one to. Merry Christmas to me!

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3 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I think there are lots of things wrong with LulaRoe, and none of them have to do with the leggings themselves (which are quite comfy to feel, although I don't wear such articles of clothing myself). Quite a few reality tv "stars" sell them, including Meri from SISTER WIVES, and I am sure it won't be long until one of the Teen Mom girls (probably Leah) gets on the bandwagon. A $5,000 upfront "starter" fee to buy into the products, little to no control over what products you actually get, the fact that only 2% of those selling the products actually earn real money from the business model, the badgering of friends and family members to buy the products, the confusing ecommerce setups that strongly discourage actual sites to purchase in lieu of online pop-up events that are confusing and convoluted at best, the manipulative and pushy sales tactics the organization encourages sellers to use, the more than 50% mark-ups on items that are generally not superior quality to begin with... These all specifically apply to LulaRoe but can be said about many other MLM and pyramid schemes-including the ones Leah has been a part of. These women are not true business owners, no matter what the higher ups claim; they have less control than Subway franchise owners. I do own and operate a successful publishing and consulting business. There is a vast difference between what they do and what most of us who own and operate our businesses do. 

That doesn't mean, of course, that I don't still love my Microdermabrasion Mary Kay set. 

Oh wow, I didn't know all that and it sounds terrible.  The clothes look like ugly maternity clothes from 1982.  And did I see that the leggings are one size fits all? Is that correct?  That seems questionable based on the people I have seen selling them.

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30 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Oh wow, I didn't know all that and it sounds terrible.  The clothes look like ugly maternity clothes from 1982.  And did I see that the leggings are one size fits all? Is that correct?  That seems questionable based on the people I have seen selling them.

LulaRoe is a company founded by an LDS lady (maybe a couple of them). The leggings are extraordinarily soft. They come in two sizes, one is the regular one size and the other is tall and curvy. I can't attest to the quality or durability as I don't own any. They've repeatedly come under fire for their difficulties in discerning which of the amazing patterns they sell have problematic ties to racist histories, cultural appropriative designs, etc. The most recent one I heard about was the "sock monkeys" pattern, which doesn't look too much like sock monkeys and looks a lot like some early 20th century racist cartoons.

People go crazy for them, though. LLR also makes dresses and shirts. I think the leggings are $24.

I don't mind paying for good quality but I wear another brand that I quite like.

As to Leah's newest venture...I got added to one of those online lip love FB groups by a co-worker (giant eye roll). I don't have particularly unusual coloring but I absolutely need to try on lip colors in person. I don't care if it's the most amazing goo that ever saw daylight. I. Have. To. See. It. On. My. Face.

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On January 6, 2017 at 8:53 AM, AirQuotes said:

It was over 4 years ago so I'm recovered. lol

I'm surprised to see Leah just now getting in on it now because it was trending heavy in my area of Louisiana for about a year.  It was a  saturated market for sure, but I guess maybe that stuff takes a while to really flow around (like an ooze) to different parts of the country.

I'm in Louisiana, too! Yay! Lipsense isn't one I've seen in my area yet but maybe if it was 4 years ago when it was popular here, it's possible I just didn't know about it (thank goodnes) because at that time I wasn't yet a part of suburban "mommy culture." A certain nail wrap MLM (that was/is garbage) was big here a couple of years ago and now it's all LulaRoe (I hate MLMs but I love LLR leggings - in solid colors - and I'm not even sorry because those leggings are so comfy and soft).

I'm surprised Leah hasn't gotten in on the nail wrap MLM. Maybe it's over in WV or hasn't made it to WV yet. I think we have only ever seen her sell items related to make-up/beauty. I think she fancies herself a make-up artist and beautician, even though she failed out of or quit beauty school a few years ago and her Be Glossy traveling makeup business got shut down because she didn't have a license (or something like that). So I guess selling MLM beauty products is the closest thing she can do to being the beautician she believes herself to be (rather than getting education/licensure to do hair and/or make-up and skin care.....which is what she should try to complete but we know how that went/would go.....

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This. ^^^

As someone mentioned earlier, Leah is the walking stereotype for the kind of person these companies want to attract. She fancies herself a suburban soccer mom (she's not, because she doesn't actually do the work a SAHM requires). After TM2 ends, she will have no income except child support, so she'll need to save face by doing some kind of "work," but we all know our dear Leah will never want a traditional 9-5 job. She also is the kind of person who wants to be seen as a career girl without putting in 5 minutes at a normal job. Boom. Walking stereotype!

The sad thing is, Leah will be able to say, "I'm a single mom of 3 who is able to stay home because of this company," even if she only ever sells $10 worth of stuff. She'll have plenty of money for at least a little while when the show ends, which she will attribute to her "business" instead of Corey, Jeremy, and MTV. 

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What's crazy to mr is that given how many followers (and gullible ones at that), these girls have, it seems like they actually COULD be one of the few who make some decent money at MLMs because of their TM fame. They could not only parlay their fame to sell the items (I actually think Kail was somewhat successful with her Scentsy sales) by adding in little handwritten notes or whatever that "fans" would want. And they could get gullible followers for their downline who want to "work for" a TM girl. However, all of that would take constant hustle and organization, and we know Leah doesn't have that. 

(And obviously getting a real job or starting a legit business would be more profitable in the long run than all this MLM nonsense.)

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Oh any of the Moms who wanted to could make serious cash at any of those types of programs.  They don't have to grow their customer base....they have thousands who would jump in line to buy from the quasi-celebs that they are.  

Maci's business is successful, not because the shirts are awesome, but because people are buying the Teen Mom shirts.  Maci also has hustle.  She takes that customer base and WORKS IT.  Leah, IMO...not so much.  

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4 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

What's crazy to mr is that given how many followers (and gullible ones at that), these girls have, it seems like they actually COULD be one of the few who make some decent money at MLMs because of their TM fame. They could not only parlay their fame to sell the items (I actually think Kail was somewhat successful with her Scentsy sales) by adding in little handwritten notes or whatever that "fans" would want. And they could get gullible followers for their downline who want to "work for" a TM girl. However, all of that would take constant hustle and organization, and we know Leah doesn't have that. 

(And obviously getting a real job or starting a legit business would be more profitable in the long run than all this MLM nonsense.)

Well put.

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

IS Maci's business successful, though? I thought they were having some problems.

She succeeded in getting a guy to finally marry her. 

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3 hours ago, ghoulina said:

IS Maci's business successful, though? I thought they were having some problems.

Considering Maci lies from time to time (PCOS, pregnancies, birth control, drinking while pregnant, the list goes on and on) I can see her saying anything to make it look as if they are successful. What does Maci consider successful? Her buying 100 t-shirts and selling them? Do we even hear about how many people return their product? Not from Maci we won't.

Back to Leah since it is the Leah thread...

1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

I really, really worry about Leah taking this on right as she's starting college. Doesn't bode well for either one. She's into extreme lifestyle changes she can't handle, like jumping into family/kids with Jeremy. 

Leah should not get involved in anything until she gets MTV out of her system and out of her life.

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On ‎1‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 7:24 AM, mamadrama said:

 

That doesn't mean, of course, that I don't still love my Microdermabrasion Mary Kay set. 

Mary Kay  is literally the only concealer that doesn't make me get eczema.  I'm awful though, I had a consultant once upon a time but she moved away.  the last time I needed some I ordered it off Amazon, which is *not* the point of MK at all.  I felt bad that I wasn't helping a fellow mom out...but yeah...love the concealer

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40 minutes ago, teapot said:

Mary Kay  is literally the only concealer that doesn't make me get eczema.  I'm awful though, I had a consultant once upon a time but she moved away.  the last time I needed some I ordered it off Amazon, which is *not* the point of MK at all.  I felt bad that I wasn't helping a fellow mom out...but yeah...love the concealer

Mary Kay salesladies just make me think of that 70s Show, when Kitty's sister is like, the sales queen of MK and has a pink Cadillac. Red just stares at the car in the driveway for awhile, finally sighing, "you poor, pink bastard".

 

Nevermind, just checked, clearly the producers didn't want to pay any license or trademark fees. Kitty's sister sold "Kathy May" not "Mary Kay".

 

Personally, I'm an Avon girl myself. My mom knows someone.

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2 hours ago, teapot said:

Mary Kay  is literally the only concealer that doesn't make me get eczema.  I'm awful though, I had a consultant once upon a time but she moved away.  the last time I needed some I ordered it off Amazon, which is *not* the point of MK at all.  I felt bad that I wasn't helping a fellow mom out...but yeah...love the concealer

As much as I snark on Leah for getting suckered into all of these MLM's, Mary Kay makeup is pretty darned good. I used to use it when I was a flight attendant and the foundations and eye shadows had fantastic staying power. I'd get off a 12 hour flight with my makeup looking like I'd just put it on. 

I'm kind of surprised Leah hasn't been smart enough to tap into her social media following. Given how skinny she is, I'm surprised those laxative tea people haven't hired her to promote their products. Hell, if Kail can promote diet stuff, Leah should be a shoe-in.

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MK isn't bad, compared to other stuff like Lularoe and, my personal favorite, Plexus. MK has been around for eons. My mother was a consultant for awhile and she did alright. People really love the stuff. I LOVE my MK mascara. But she gave up because she needed to build her clientele base a bit bigger and she just wasn't pushy enough for that. I think you can make it work if you have a wide circle of friends/associates/co-workers and have that type of personality for sales - convincing, but not pushy. 

Leah has NONE of that. She just went and dumped thousands of their money on MK products and then let it sit around in the trunk of their car, causing an avalanche on her daughter's head. She was looking for easy money, and MK isn't easy money. 

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