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What/If is an upcoming American thriller anthology web television miniseries, created by Mike Kelley, that explores "the ripple effects of what happens when acceptable people start doing unacceptable things. Each season will tackle a different morality tale inspired by culturally consequential source material, and the power of a single fateful decision to change the trajectory of an entire life."

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  • Renée Zellweger as Anne
  • Jane Levy as Lisa
  • Blake Jenner as Sean
  • Daniella Pineda as Cassidy
  • Louis Herthum as Foster
  • Tyler Ross
  • Derek Smith
  • Nana Ghana as Sophie
  • Monique Kim as Miles
  • Marissa Cuevas as Christine
  • Samantha Ware as Angela
  • Juan Castano as Marcos
  • Keith Powers as Todd
  • Saamer Usmani as Avery
  • Dave Annable as Dr. Ian Harris
  • Gabriel Mann as Gage Scott

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Some casting news for the Netflix drama;

From engadget:

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Netflix recently ordered 10 episodes of a new social thriller anthology entitled What/If with Renee Zellweger in a lead role. Now, the streaming service has announced the names of the actors joining the cast and starring opposite Zellweger, Glee alum Blake Jenner and Castle Rock's Jane Levy. According to Deadline, Dave Annable of the ABC show Brothers & Sisters will play a character called Dr. Ian Harris, while Westworld's Louis Herthum will play Zellweger's driver and right-hand man.

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The Netflix anthology series What/If has added a quartet of new actors including Samantha Ware, Juan Castano, Keith Powers and Saamer Usmani, to its already impressive cast.

Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of detail about who the new actors will play, besides their characters’ names. Samantha Ware (Barry, Chicago Med) will play Angela, Juan Castano (The OA, Bull) will play Marcos, Keith Powers (Straight Outta Compton, Before I Fall) will play Todd, and Saamer Usmani (Reign, The Killjoys) will play Avery.

 

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More casting!
 

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Tyler Ross (The Killing), Derek Smith (Grey’s Anatomy), Nana Ghana (White Rabbit), Monique Kim (Looks That Kill) and Marissa Cuevas (Midnight, Texas) have joined the recurring cast of What/If, Netflix’s social thriller anthology drama series starring Renée Zellweger, Jane Levy and Blake Jenner, from Revenge and Swingtown creator Mike Kelley.

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What/If explores the ripple effects of what happens when acceptable people start doing unacceptable things. The first season focuses on a mysterious woman’s lucrative but dubious offer to a cash-strapped pair of San Francisco newlyweds.

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The description is very intriguing ... And the teaser conquers with its chic.

But still it is not clear what to expect from the television series. The plot remains a mystery behind seven locks ...😵

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One episode in, I'm not sure if I think this is fun trash, or just trash without any redeeming fun.  I'm going to give it another episode or two, though.

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I was curious about this, but I didn't really like the first episode. So did she hurt the husband? Physically? I missed something when he came home. 

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That was a funny trashy campy little show. I think the B-plot with surgeon is quite meta, because it tells us not to mess with a surgeon (with any surgeon basically, but especially with the plastic surgeon, or you will end with the face like Renee's and will have to act only with your lips and a corner of an eye, she does it with some extraordinary results though.) It's a bit of "Revenge" with Renee instead of Madeleine, a bit 50 Shades of Grey, a bit any so called "erotic thriller" from the 1990s. And the gay C-plot is ridiculously toothless.  

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2 hours ago, Anela said:

I was curious about this, but I didn't really like the first episode. So did she hurt the husband? Physically? I missed something when he came home. 

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She just made him feel so bad about himself that he punched a wall, but you don't find that out until about episode 8 or so.

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We watched the first episode, decided it wasn’t any good, skipped to the last episode to find out what happened, and still have no idea what happened. Can someone give me a quick summary of the whole season? I’m not going to watch it. 

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We’ve been trying to figure out what the deal is with this show. It reminds me of when Will Farrell made a straight up lifetime movie with no comedy or redeeming features, and we watched the whole thing just because it was him and we still don’t get it why he did it. 

My boyfriend says maybe it’s a new genre of “guess if we’re serious” where the creators are laughing at the audience in between takes. 

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I didn't like Revenge, and only made it through a few episodes of that. 

I've just watched episode two of this. I like several of the actors involved, but it isn't grabbing me. 

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5 hours ago, LeGrandElephant said:

We watched the first episode, decided it wasn’t any good, skipped to the last episode to find out what happened, and still have no idea what happened. Can someone give me a quick summary of the whole season? I’m not going to watch it. 

So I adored Revenge, I thought (and still think) the pilot was amazingly well-written and well-structured and Emily Thorne is my TV girlfriend for life. Like a faithful puppy owned by a master who turned on it, I even stayed loyal to the show after, gulp, David Clarke showed up alive and Courtney Love showed up as "White Gold", but What/If is disappointingly underwhelming so far.

I watched the pilot (boring) and then meant to watch ep 2 but watched ep 3 first by mistake to am now watching ep 2 to fill in the gap but not sure I can be bothered with any more. These characters are really not coming across as that bright or that interesting and I have a feeling that whatever the big reveal is, it's going to be a let down. But I'm still curious and I wouldn't mind a synopsis too.

On another note, I understand the need/want to nip and tuck as you age, especially with the pressures of the industry but I'm beginning to feel like plastic surgery is getting out of control and certain actors are starting to resemble escapees from the Capitol of Panem. Renee Zellweger looks like she's wearing a Renee Zellweger Kabuki mask in this. She can barely move any part of her face except her lips. This was not necessary, Renee. 

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I'm on episode 3 and I don't know why.

The primary plot is preposterous.   The B plot about the surgeon and the cheating wife seems to serve no purpose whatsoever.   And the gay C-plot is doubly meaningless and boring as hell.   I like the guy who plays Foster, and it was nice to see a glimpse of Gabriel Mann, who I enjoyed as Nolan (?) on Revenge but otherwise it's just a waste of bandwidth.  Speaking of Revenge, Madeline Stowe would have been far better than Renee Zellwegger as Anne Montgomery.

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13 hours ago, LeGrandElephant said:

We watched the first episode, decided it wasn’t any good, skipped to the last episode to find out what happened, and still have no idea what happened. Can someone give me a quick summary of the whole season? I’m not going to watch it. 

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Plot A. Ann Montgomery comes from a dysfunctional family and  as a teenager  was raped by a plumber who was, as she thought, the only  decent person in her surrounding. She ran away, gave the child for adoption and was educated to be a ruthless venture capitalist by a mystery organisation represented by someone called "uncle Sam" (or similar). They loaned her money to invest for them and share profits with them. In the meantime she followed her abandoned daughter Lisa who became a brilliant cancer-researcher, found a cure against aggressive forms of cancer and started a gentec startup. Unfortunately for Ann, her daughter is married to a man with violent tendencies who killed some rapist bar keeper years ago. Triggered by her experience with violent men, Ann thinks he's dangerous and decides to remove him from her daughter's  life, so the daughter can fully concentrate herself on the gentec firm and make profits for herself, Ann and "organisation". 

Plot B. An Afro-American surgeon (Angela) who is a friend of Lisa, has an affair with her white chief of surgery. She got pregnant by her husband and decides to end the affair with the chief for good. The chief goes full psycho. In the last couple of episodes Angela and her husband fight for their and their unborn baby's life.

Plot C. Lisa's brother Marcos is an unsuccessful lawyer who works on emigrants cases and always looses. He is in a  relationship with some Afro-American dude. In a bar Marcos meets a handsome hunky guy  Kevin and they have a threesome. Kevin is a hippie and when Marcos's boyfriend is away Kevin an Marcos trip on mushrooms and Marcos remembers that as a 5 y.o. he accidentally started a fire that killed his and Lisa's adaptive parents, cancer researches. But it's ok everyone tells him, he was a child and didn't mean to start a fire. Marcos redeems himself by successfully defending Lisa's husband who after serious talk with Anne surrendered himself to police.

Everyone marries in the end (no sh*t!)

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Thanks for the synopsis! I did some googling last night after posting, and I gotta say I had a lot more fun reading the reviews about how ridiculous this show is than I did actually thing the show. 

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11 minutes ago, LeGrandElephant said:

Thanks for the synopsis! I did some googling last night after posting, and I gotta say I had a lot more fun reading the reviews about how ridiculous this show is than I did actually thing the show. 

As reviews correctly state the only assets of this unbelievably badly written and poorly acted trash are Zellweger and Dave Annable who completely understand what trash they are in and do their best to take it to the meta level.    

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Thanks for that. I guessed Renee was Lisa's mom and the rest is just as lame as expected. These are some sub-Melrose Place-circa-1997 hijinks.

This show is nicely summed up by the bit in episode two where Anne tells Lisa not to bring Sean to the big evening event where his ex showed up bartending and it is painfully, transparently, glaringly obvious that she did this because she knew Lisa would do the exact opposite.

Of course that is exactly what Lisa immediately does and Sean says something like "Didn't Anne tell you not to bring me?" Lisa gives him this HUGE GRIN like a 5-year-old-gone-viral for writing a "note from my parents" in crayon excusing them from class for a week expecting 100% to get away with it and says "That's why I'm bringing you - it's CHESS!"

And I'm like no, Lisa, that's not Chess, that's Tic-Tac-Toe.

Also Kevin is a terrible dancer.

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Okay, I finished episode three and that's it, I'm done.   This show is dreadful.   The horrible acting (Jane Levy comes off as shrill and juvenile, the husband is a dolt), the bullshit storyline, the clobber-you-over-the-head diversity, the insulting and antiquated depiction of gays as recklessly promiscuous ... all of it just gross. 

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1 hour ago, millennium said:

Jane Levy comes off as shrill and juvenile

She does, which is sad because I loved her in Suburgatory.

Not sure how much more I will bother with but I would be very OK if Lisa's friend (I think she's the CTO - the one she told Anne she wouldn't let go) went far, far away. I think she's supposed to be spunky and no-nonsense and down-to-earth but she just comes across as incredibly annoying.

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2 hours ago, BaskingsharkGTX said:

but she just comes across as incredibly annoying.

They all do, that's part of my problem, and I like Jane Levy. I haven't watched any more of it - moved on to Black Summer - but it looked like this woman was trying to get him back for something. Of course the Perfect Husband, has a Dark History. And I know it's annoying to capitalize things that shouldn't be capitalized, but that's how it comes across. 

It was also obvious that she wanted the husband at the party, so that she could screw with him a bit more, when this girl thought she was calling her bluff and bringing him. She's that smart, but she's never heard of reverse psychology? 

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The most exciting part of this show was realizing that the local anchor at the end who reports on 

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Anne's death

was Perd for Parks and Rec.

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i was just coming to this forum to see what other folks were saying about the show - i'm five episodes in and starting to really enjoy it, as a soap - but i wasn't expecting to have the main "mystery" spoiled -- are forums of shows that are dropped all at once and with only one thread not required to have any spoiler tags?  

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34 minutes ago, veronicalodge44 said:

are forums of shows that are dropped all at once and with only one thread not required to have any spoiler tags?

They are not required to have spoiler tags, as once the show has dropped, it's all out there. As a rule, it's not something that's enforceable for these shows, although it is considerate to spoiler tag 'big' shockers for your fellow posters, especially early/soon after dropping. But generally, we do not want to see these topics turn into walls of spoiler tags. Thanks.

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