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Maybe there is a written contract, but if there were ever a time when people wouldn't fulfill or honor their part, it's the ZA.  I mean, c'mon, who other than a politician (or lawyer) would even think of such a thing?  Maybe that's another of Deena's feeble attempt to cling to the past. Is she just overly hopeful or delusional or the consummate politician???

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My question as to the number of graves - I'm assuming 2 must be for Noah and Aiden, but why?  Is anyone going to go back for their remains?  Are there any remains to be gotten?  So why bother digging up that much dirt if you have nothing to bury?  Just stick 2 crosses in the ground and be done with it.

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My question as to the number of graves - I'm assuming 2 must be for Noah and Aiden, but why?  Is anyone going to go back for their remains?  Are there any remains to be gotten?  So why bother digging up that much dirt if you have nothing to bury?  Just stick 2 crosses in the ground and be done with it.

 

Exactly - why bother digging that much? Crosses (or markers of some sort) should suffice. However, thinking back...did they dig a grave for T-Dog? There couldn't have been much left of him either.

 

But who is the 3rd grave for? Pete? Coral's friend, Enid?...hopefully not.

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Aren't the graves the people who were "exiled"...and maybe Deanna takes Rick to tell him the truth. Or give him a serious warning about what happens when people start thinking about taking over?

Just guessing, but if you want to make gravesites for people whose bodies you couldn't reclaim, you would do it like at the prison with some gravel and a marker.

Note that the prison had crosses; ASZ just has slabs.

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Found this in the spoiler tv comments. Anyone familiar with that shed? I will lose my mind if it's the last shot of the finale. All these Morgan teases are giving me blue balls (I'm a woman so this is a real feat).

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Is it odd that my heartbeat quickened just seeing Lennie James (Morgan Jones)?

 

I'm thinking "When Daryl Met Morgan," the long-awaited (by me, anyway) sequel to "When Daryl Met Rick" from Season 1...

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Raven, not at all! I audibly gasped. I wonder what he's pointing the gun at. Possible captions: "I told you, no solicitors!" "No, I don't want to play cards with you, Unfair Wolf. You cheat." "Go away, The Mighty Peanut and Daryl are in the shed having alone time." "God damn it Beth, they told me you died but you're drunk again and singing. No, you can't set my cabin on fire you idiot." "No offense Rick, but there's no way I'm going to be the second black man in your group. It never ends well."

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He appears to be selling green boiled peanuts in the front yard. I actually may have stopped here on the way home from work.

Ahhh I haven't had those since the Grand 'Rents were alive.

 

If they bring Morgan back and he's a villain that is just going to get killed I swear I will break up with this show forever.

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Awesome article with spoilers from Try!

http://highlighthollywood.com/2015/03/the-walking-dead-try-alexandria-further-falls-apart-and-ricks-group-is-ripped-apart-from-within-highlight-hollywood-news/

 

Holy crap synopsis out:

 

https://www.facebook.com/SpoilingDeadFans?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser

 

Fuck me running Michonne knocks Rick out??  Shit just got real!  You have to scroll to it, it won't give me a link to just the synopsis.

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Awesome article with spoilers from Try!

http://highlighthollywood.com/2015/03/the-walking-dead-try-alexandria-further-falls-apart-and-ricks-group-is-ripped-apart-from-within-highlight-hollywood-news/

 

Holy crap synopsis out:

 

https://www.facebook.com/SpoilingDeadFans?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser

 

Fuck me running Michonne knocks Rick out??  Shit just got real!  You have to scroll to it, it won't give me a link to just the synopsis.Michonn

Michonne knocking Rick out is

just like in the comics; I'm looking forward to a

wild episode. lol

 

 

I know i've already said I think Judith has to die....now I will make a bet:

A new interview with Michael Cudlitz has him saying the finale ep will not just make people cry, it will make them mad.

I predict they will resurrect the Lori/Judith death at the prison in the comic as a way to kill off Carol and Judith at the same time.

When th ASZ is attacked, Carol will try to save Judith and get shot and fall on her.

Or, possibly, people invading the gates steal the baby and when shot fall on Judith or the bullet goes through and hits Judith in a callback to Carl getting shot at the farm.

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Michonne knocking Rick out is

just like in the comics; I'm looking forward to a

wild episode. lol

 

 

I know i've already said I think Judith has to die....now I will make a bet:

A new interview with Michael Cudlitz has him saying the finale ep will not just make people cry, it will make them mad.

I predict they will resurrect the Lori/Judith death at the prison in the comic as a way to kill off Carol and Judith at the same time.

When th ASZ is attacked, Carol will try to save Judith and get shot and fall on her.

Or, possibly, people invading the gates steal the baby and when shot fall on Judith or the bullet goes through and hits Judith in a callback to Carl getting shot at the farm.

How the hell do I not 

remember that from the comics??? I wasn't really into them so I must have skimmed more then I thought!

 

Anyone but Judith!  Hell I'd rather Carl or Rick get it before her!

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I can't see the show having Carol die because of Judith. They haven't had her interacting with Judith since the very start of the season, and if they had her die because of a baby, instead of fighting or on her own terms, it would invalidate most of her story arc over the last few seasons. I also don't see where the story she's in now would take her to a place where she'd run off to protect a baby.

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They're burning through the Pete/Jessie story at warp speed. In one episode, Rick confronts her, she tells him to go away, she accepts his help, he and Rick fight?

 

They should have had Carol realize Sam's abuse early in this last episode, had her tell Rick, and had Rick ask Jessie (who would deny it at that point), instead of chatting about owl statues. 

 

I don't really know whether we're supposed to see Michonne as in the wrong, but I see it as an act of mercy at this point...

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They're burning through the Pete/Jessie story at warp speed. In one episode, Rick confronts her, she tells him to go away, she accepts his help, he and Rick fight?

 

They should have had Carol realize Sam's abuse early in this last episode, had her tell Rick, and had Rick ask Jessie (who would deny it at that point), instead of chatting about owl statues. 

 

I don't really know whether we're supposed to see Michonne as in the wrong, but I see it as an act of mercy at this point...

No! We're not supposed to see Michonne as in the wrong! To me, it was like the barn with extra...in the barn remember she says {paraphrase) just so we're clear I wasn't saying to punch him in the face!" (Aaron).

So now it's like he went one more level and she has to go one more level.

An interview with Michael Cudlitz he said we might be rooting for the CDB but maybe they are becoming the bad guys.

 

ETA: I think Michonne will be seen dealing with the quandary of not really feeling she could live the rest of her life with the ASZhats, but not knowing if CDB has been changing so much that she can't feel the same way about them and live with that either. But she doesn't (of course) want to go back outside and starve; what would you do?

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That's a good point. I guess I was worried if something bad happens at Alexandria and Rick is out of it at the time, they'd say she bears the responsibility. It's difficult for me to tell when we are or aren't supposed to approve of Rick's spiral into Shanedom. 

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I can't see the show having Carol die because of Judith. They haven't had her interacting with Judith since the very start of the season, and if they had her die because of a baby, instead of fighting or on her own terms, it would invalidate most of her story arc over the last few seasons. I also don't see where the story she's in now would take her to a place where she'd run off to protect a baby.

Here's my reasoning:

  • She came back knowing she was banished because the prison was in trouble, fought through walkers and shooting etc to be with the kids, and saved their lives quite a few times.
  • It didn't end well, but she could be like Noah I feel I am responsible for deaths I owe them this sacrifice
  • It could be like Merle At the last moment, I see my own journey, what have I become? Here is my chance to redeem myself and finally find peace.
  • If the circumstance came up in the final episode, an invasion by walkers, enemies or a battle of CDB vs ASZ would pretty much interrupt everybody's plans and  previous story arcs.
  • If where she's at right now is the Pete thing, Rick is the one who would be dealing with that, Carol probably wouldn't be there.

 

I have also seen another way they could switch things up;

  • What if the Jessie ending is transferred? Carol is attacked by walkers and won't let go of Judth or Carl or Ron  and has to have her arm whacked away and left to be devoured?
  •  I think they have to get rid of Judith because of all the stories coming are heavily action-oriented and they don't want the viewers constantly focused on But who is taking care of the baby during this?
  • They were going to get rid of Carol a long time ago but she got a reprieve. However, continuing to work her into the story will get too complicated now. Some viewers are already complaining about the number of newbies; they ain't seen nothin' yet!

I know they love Carol and she is such a good actress, but Scott Wilson was good and loved and others did a great job too but it's TWD. Ya gotta go sometime.

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I can definitely picture Carol dying while trying to protect a child or multiple kids.  And if not the kids, she'd probably be trying to save someone from something.  I don't think she'll die while merrily baking cookies or leisurely strolling through the forest -- although... the irony of dying while doing something domestic would be interesting.  She survives all of the other horrible people, walkers and terrible situations, only to end up dying while channeling her inner Martha Stewart. 

 

I don't know if a Carol death would happen in next week's finale or at some other point in the series, but I can absolutely see it happening sooner or later.  Then again, I can picture an eventual Rick death too -- which a lot of people don't agree with.  I don't see him dying right now, but sometime before the series completely ends.

 

I think Judith is living on borrowed time.  I don't know when or how she would go (we may not even see it happen), but I tend to agree with kikismom about that one.

 

I am not paying any attention to the assorted cast members' warnings that we will be sad and angry upon viewing the finale.  I have come to realize that they always say that -- or a variation of it -- and what actually ends up happening is anticlimactic.

 

I'm not seeing a whole lot of chemistry between Rick and Jessie.   Because he is attractive and she is attractive, I guess that's supposed to automatically mean that there is smoldering chemistry between them.  I'm not feeling it.  They will still end up in the sack, of course, and Rick's manly urges are probably raging right about now, but there is no real spark between them.  She is just kind of... blah.  Boring. 

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I am not paying any attention to the assorted cast members' warnings that we will be sad and angry upon viewing the finale.  I have come to realize that they always say that -- or a variation of it -- and what actually ends up happening is anticlimactic.

 

 

Before Tyreese died they kept saying you don't have a heart if you don't cry during this episode. I guess I don't have a heart!  I thought Noah's death was much more emotional then Tyreese's.  Tyreese just needed to go!

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I don't think Pete is dead just yet, not with Tara in need of serious medical attention. Having to keep an abuser around out of medical necessity could be interesting. I'm most eager to see how CDB reacts when Deanna starts blaming Glenn for stuff. Maggie is going to lose her shit. And it will be glorious.

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I don't think Pete is dead just yet, not with Tara in need of serious medical attention. Having to keep an abuser around out of medical necessity could be interesting. I'm most eager to see how CDB reacts when Deanna starts blaming Glenn for stuff. Maggie is going to lose her shit. And it will be glorious.

I have this intense feeling that Maggie is going to bite it and Carol will take over her story line.

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Even though the season ended is 90 minutes, I don't see how we can cram everything into that we need to. Somehow, I wish they could slow things down by a week (show time). That'd give Tara a chance to get better (or die), and give a chance for Rick to get rid of those goofy-looking bandages on his face.

 

Plus, we have to bring back Daryl, bring in Morgan, deal with Rick/Pete/Jessie, deal with the massing walkers, find out about "W", and see about the dismemberment league and what's going on with that.

 

I appreciate the 90 minutes. But I think we need more.

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At this point it would be a hugely rushed reveal to say they aren't - we haven't seen Eric in two episodes and everything we've seen of Aaron has been a strong support for Daryl. I guess they could reveal he is the one who has been doing all the carving and is the real danger, but it would feel contrived beyond belief to me if they did.

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At this point it would be a hugely rushed reveal to say they aren't - we haven't seen Eric in two episodes and everything we've seen of Aaron has been a strong support for Daryl. I guess they could reveal he is the one who has been doing all the carving and is the real danger, but it would feel contrived beyond belief to me if they did.

I agree, and I don't really see them as bad, I was just trying to think of someone that is clearly portrayed as "good". I think the jury is still out on Deanna, some people already hate her, others are withholding judgment.

 

So unless the big surprise is that someone we hate turns out to be a "good guy" I can't think of what is going to be so surprising. Maybe FPP will turn into a hero? Nah, never mind. Even this show couldn't stretch credulity that much.

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Nicholas killing Glenn seems so obvious...I can't get it out of my head that he ends up killing Maggie instead. And as Glenn has slowly been taking over Rick's old role on the show, his wife being killed because of an asshole he didn't murder when he had the chance would be another piece put into place.

 

That would also help explain the Rosita/Glenn bonding earlier this season...

 

It would break my heart.

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I wonder if the actor who plays Aaron will be sticking around. While watching the POP channel, I noticed that he has a new show on there called Impress. It might be something that's filmed when TWD is on hiatus. So he may be able to do both. I hope that he will be sticking around that's if he's genuinely good, which seems to be the case. He's the only one from the ASZ that I actually like and care about.

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I noticed Ross Marquand was on another show, too, and that makes me nervous. I really like him and hope he sticks around for a bit.
I'm really nervous for Glenn what with Nicholas finding that gun.  I'm loving Glenn right now and hope he doesn't bite it.
 

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I noticed Ross Marquand was on another show, too, and that makes me nervous. I really like him and hope he sticks around for a bit.

I'm really nervous for Glenn what with Nicholas finding that gun. I'm loving Glenn right now and hope he doesn't bite it.

I would hate for one of the Atlanta 5 to be taken out by a cowardly nobody like Nicholas. If/when Glenn, Carol, Daryl, etc die, I want something memorable.
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Someone in the episode thread mentioned that the Alexandrians may not even know that you can turn at any time after you die, that you don't have to be bitten. 

 

I'm not sure if that's true, but I tend to wonder if that may come into play if there's a massacre type situation in the finale.

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The statement : somebody is not what they appear to be does not necessarily imply good vs. evil.

Just not who you believed them to be.

 

I think Aaron used to be some CIA or something because he seems like nice gay yuppie (guppie?) but

  • he sure is deadly aim, Does anyone remember that in the barn he acted so freaked by the chance Judith could attract walkers but he isn't afraid of walkers ever since?
  • knowledge of listening devices
  • , leaving ASZ for days or weeks to follow people
  • , doesn't seem to get orders from Deanna or give orders or do chores
  • just leaves whenever he wants, with no trouble taking weapons out with him.
  • The whole shit about Daryl just watching the party in the dark and the second he steps forward the light goes on and Aaron is already on the porch and come on in for a job offer
  • oh and I happen to have motorcycle parts even though you never said you could assemble a bike
  • and it's just been there leaking on my garage floor with no leakage stains
  • and me and Eric don't need it but we just have it taking up the whole garage.
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I did wonder briefly if they might kill Aaron in the finale, since he's the only Alexandria member they've built up, and he also, as some "Bethyl" fans have pointed out, is another variation of the hope and optimism storyline she had with Daryl. 

 

I know he's still alive in the comics, but I'm not sure if he has had any major role since being introduced.

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I don't know if they consider previews spoilers or not, so i thought I better ask here.  In the preview after the show Glenn asks Rick "Did you want this?" and Rick says "No garble garble garble".  Does anyone know what Rick said?

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I don't know if they consider previews spoilers or not, so i thought I better ask here.  In the preview after the show Glenn asks Rick "Did you want this?" and Rick says "No garble garble garble".  Does anyone know what Rick said?

I don't know what he said, I will rewatch it.

As far as previews, anything AMC releases to public like previews, promos, still-shot galleries...all okay. If the show decides we can know it or see it by their own choice it is fair game.

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