Maharincess August 10, 2018 Share August 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said: JFC, how many teen mom alumnis (alumnus?) are going to volunteer to help Nev. CTFD guys. He's going to pick his wife and that's not going to be any better, but that's the way entertainment works. This is the third time today I've had to ask what a damn acronym means. CTFD? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4573463
LBS August 10, 2018 Share August 10, 2018 Google shows that it means "Calm The F*ck Down" 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4573574
Maharincess August 11, 2018 Share August 11, 2018 8 hours ago, 17wheatthins said: Because I am older than the average bear I’ve found that google is really helpful when I don’t know acronyms. Here’s a link to a list of internet acronyms you and others may find useful, @Maharincess! :-) http://www.smart-words.org/abbreviations/text.html and another link for you: https://www.internetslang.com/ that way you won’t have to ask three times again! ;-) That's my issue though, I shouldn't have to Google every time I read a post. I just don't understand why people use them. It seriously takes a half a second to type a whole word. I understand it in places like Twitter where you have a letter limit but I don't understand it anywhere else. like mama Dawn said "it don't make no damn sense" . 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4575627
CaliforniaLove August 13, 2018 Share August 13, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 9:17 PM, Maharincess said: That's my issue though, I shouldn't have to Google every time I read a post. I just don't understand why people use them. It seriously takes a half a second to type a whole word. I understand it in places like Twitter where you have a letter limit but I don't understand it anywhere else. like mama Dawn said "it don't make no damn sense" . I hear you. I can keep up with some, but it's getting to be like when people abuse hashtags. Like, you're supposed to tag #beach if you're at the beach, not #omglifeissomuchbetterwhenIamhangingatthebeach. With the acronyms, I can deal with a "SMH", or "WTF", but it's getting to be ridiculous YKWIS (you know what I'm sayin?!). Speaking of hash tags though, I feel like it has been a while since we have #kepttalkingmentalhealth! 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4582447
Caracoa1 August 13, 2018 Share August 13, 2018 Whatever happened to Tyler's passion of helping reunite birth families with adopted children? Is it only a "passion" when it's on MTV's dime?! 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4583141
CaliforniaLove August 13, 2018 Share August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Caracoa1 said: Whatever happened to Tyler's passion of helping reunite birth families with adopted children? Is it only a "passion" when it's on MTV's dime?! No!!...it also has to come with good ratings. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4583154
LBS August 13, 2018 Share August 13, 2018 @CaliforniaLove this is for you: Remote is ready, eyes wide, palms are sweaty There's Flintstones on the TV already, Wilma and Betty No virgin to channel surfin', and I'm HD ready So I flip, garbage is all I'm getting There's Simon Cowell, who folks wanna disembowel He opens his mouth, always says something foul They're dying wow, wannabes are crying now He votes 'em out, time to throw in the towel Shows based on reality, oh the humanity Oh, Ozzy's family sho' loves profanity Woah the insanity, oh dogs that crap and pee Home of depravity, no they live happily #poetryismybrainsbananas #keeptalkinmentalhealth (full credit Weird Al. ‘Couch Potato’) 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4583457
DangerousMinds August 13, 2018 Share August 13, 2018 4 hours ago, CaliforniaLove said: I hear you. I can keep up with some, but it's getting to be like when people abuse hashtags. Like, you're supposed to tag #beach if you're at the beach, not #omglifeissomuchbetterwhenIamhangingatthebeach. With the acronyms, I can deal with a "SMH", or "WTF", but it's getting to be ridiculous YKWIS (you know what I'm sayin?!). Speaking of hash tags though, I feel like it has been a while since we have #kepttalkingmentalhealth! Why is anyone "supposed to" tag anything? It all just seems silly and senseless to me. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4583497
monicageller August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4584039
CaliforniaLove August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, DangerousMinds said: Why is anyone "supposed to" tag anything? It all just seems silly and senseless to me. Semantics. I mean if you're going to use a hashtag. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4584049
ginger90 August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, monicageller said: Is she away? Is he away? Tyler commented on it: tylerbaltierramtvDayyyuuum, who’s that good lookin dude!?!? ? j/k I miss you too babe, love you! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4584071
ginger90 August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 Another comment from Tyler: tylerbaltierramtvIf everyone would like to know...I am at my sister Amber’s intensive family therapy week program supporting my family in any way they need me, because that’s what I am supposed to do...it’s my call to arms & my honor to support the people I love. So please be nice to my wife, she has been through more than any of you know & we should be lifting each other up as a spiritually connected species, not tearing each other down. Be kind & project love out into the universe & you will be surprised on what the universe gives back to you. ??❤️? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4584979
druzy August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, ginger90 said: Another comment from Tyler: tylerbaltierramtvIf everyone would like to know...I am at my sister Amber’s intensive family therapy week program supporting my family in any way they need me, because that’s what I am supposed to do...it’s my call to arms & my honor to support the people I love. So please be nice to my wife, she has been through more than any of you know & we should be lifting each other up as a spiritually connected species, not tearing each other down. Be kind & project love out into the universe & you will be surprised on what the universe gives back to you. ??❤️? What is she 5? Shut up Tyler. Edited August 14, 2018 by druzy 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4585381
Guest August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 Quote I have a statement of truth that I have been saying to @CatelynnLowell throughout our relationship. “You are BEAUTIFUL. You are STRONG. You are WORTHY” & after diving deep into our therapy & understanding her core wounds, I wanted to add the words “You are SAFE” to that statement Here's MY statement of truth: why can't you say this shit in private? I hate how this fool (and many two-bit famemongers like him) use their social media accounts to prop themselves up like they're some paragons of enlightenment. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4585450
CaliforniaLove August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 16 hours ago, LBS said: @CaliforniaLove this is for you: Remote is ready, eyes wide, palms are sweaty There's Flintstones on the TV already, Wilma and Betty No virgin to channel surfin', and I'm HD ready So I flip, garbage is all I'm getting There's Simon Cowell, who folks wanna disembowel He opens his mouth, always says something foul They're dying wow, wannabes are crying now He votes 'em out, time to throw in the towel Shows based on reality, oh the humanity Oh, Ozzy's family sho' loves profanity Woah the insanity, oh dogs that crap and pee Home of depravity, no they live happily #poetryismybrainsbananas #keeptalkinmentalhealth (full credit Weird Al. ‘Couch Potato’) LOL!!! Tyler...the Millennial Weird Al!! And remember the parody he did of Michael Jackson's "Bad"? I won't say it, but I think it would be a good jam to dedicate to Cate! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4585612
ghoulina August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 Now I'm supposed to be spiritually connected with these fuckers? We're all part of one species? I'm so confused. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4585678
dariafan August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 Can’t they just bullet journal or something ? 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4585771
CaliforniaLove August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 8 hours ago, ginger90 said: tylerbaltierramtvIf everyone would like to know...I am at my sister Amber’s intensive family therapy week program supporting my family in any way they need me, because that’s what I am supposed to do...it’s my call to arms & my honor to support the people I love. So please be nice to my wife, she has been through more than any of you know & we should be lifting each other up as a spiritually connected species, not tearing each other down. Be kind & project love out into the universe & you will be surprised on what the universe gives back to you. ??❤️? Tyler truly is a saint. When my family needs me, I tell them to go fuck themselves because I never received a call to arms, so why should I have to do anything? I work for a living. I don't have time to support my family too. He is a godsend to humanity. I do disagree with one thing though....Catelynn hasn't been through more than any of us know. We know ALL of it, because they have been talking about it ad nauseam on tv, and all over SM for a decade now. Tyler's call to arms should be fishing, since he is constantly fishing for adoration. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4586408
heatherchandler August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 11:17 PM, Maharincess said: That's my issue though, I shouldn't have to Google every time I read a post. I just don't understand why people use them. It seriously takes a half a second to type a whole word. I understand it in places like Twitter where you have a letter limit but I don't understand it anywhere else. like mama Dawn said "it don't make no damn sense" . I totally agree! (see, I wrote it out instead of ITA - not that hard!) I agree with whomever posted above that this is a new world we live in, and it is filled with acronyms, but I thought we were supposed to not use them here. I may be wrong. I think WTF is the only one we should be allowed to use. I don't want to have to google 10 times in order to read a post and understand it. 20 hours ago, DangerousMinds said: Why is anyone "supposed to" tag anything? It all just seems silly and senseless to me. If you use twitter but only have a few followers, or none, no one will see your posts if you don't hashtag. If you want people to see that you are making fun of Tyler (for example), you can hashtag #teenmom or whatever, and then anyone who looks up what people are saying about teen mom can see all the hashtaged posts. I cannot believe how many Balitierras are either in rehab or fresh out, or needing to go. I know that his family is a mess, but wow. It is a good thing his sister is there, she definitely needed to go. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4586480
DangerousMinds August 14, 2018 Share August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, heatherchandler said: I totally agree! (see, I wrote it out instead of ITA - not that hard!) I agree with whomever posted above that this is a new world we live in, and it is filled with acronyms, but I thought we were supposed to not use them here. I may be wrong. I think WTF is the only one we should be allowed to use. I don't want to have to google 10 times in order to read a post and understand it. If you use twitter but only have a few followers, or none, no one will see your posts if you don't hashtag. If you want people to see that you are making fun of Tyler (for example), you can hashtag #teenmom or whatever, and then anyone who looks up what people are saying about teen mom can see all the hashtaged posts. I cannot believe how many Balitierras are either in rehab or fresh out, or needing to go. I know that his family is a mess, but wow. It is a good thing his sister is there, she definitely needed to go. I understand what you are saying about hashtags and Twitter, but why use hashtags outside of Twitter? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4586919
heatherchandler August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 4 hours ago, DangerousMinds said: I understand what you are saying about hashtags and Twitter, but why use hashtags outside of Twitter? I don’t believe there is a reason outside of Twitter, besides people thinking it’s funny. It annoys me beyond reason. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4587852
ginger90 August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 2 pictures 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4588232
NannyBails August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, heatherchandler said: I don’t believe there is a reason outside of Twitter, besides people thinking it’s funny. It annoys me beyond reason. Instagram, too. And yes, I am one of those folks who do it sometimes to be funny. Note that I did resist the urge to put a stupid hashtag phrase here. :-) On topic: agree with those who have said that things said in therapy don't need to be broadcast all over social media. I'd hate it if Tyler were in my family and broadcasting my problems (or his take on my problems) all over the place. Edited August 15, 2018 by NannyBails 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4588439
heatherchandler August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 47 minutes ago, NannyBails said: Instagram, too. And yes, I am one of those folks who do it sometimes to be funny. Note that I did resist the urge to put a stupid hashtag phrase here. :-) I would have laughed! I do enjoy an ironic hashtag after a hashtag rant. #blessed I am wondering who has Tyler's sister's kids. Hopefully Kim. Kim is probably over all of this. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4588559
ghoulina August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 I do believe that if you have a public profile on Instagram, using hashtags can further your reach. Hashtags are searchable. So..... I don't know. I sometimes use hashtags to be ironic and mocking. I don't know if people really get that, but people rarely get me in general. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4588776
teapot August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, ghoulina said: I do believe that if you have a public profile on Instagram, using hashtags can further your reach. Hashtags are searchable. So..... I don't know. I sometimes use hashtags to be ironic and mocking. I don't know if people really get that, but people rarely get me in general. my coworker who does MLM told me that you should use more obscure hashtags to move to the top of the search, as in, there are a million hashtags for #exercise but maybe not so with #teenagegirlendometriosis (I'm sure her daughter appreciates that immensely.) That way you capture and reach people easier, and they might connect with you and buy *your* shakes instead of someone else's! I use silly hashtags for no apparent reason. #random #talkingtomyself 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4588842
druzy August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4588937
ChristmasJones August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 (edited) Tyler is exhibiting a well-known phenomenon - often times, when people get into therapy for the first time, they can get kind of taken over by it and start using a bunch of new phrases and language that they learn from their therapist - boundaries, self-care, etc. Its all very exciting as they are suddenly looking at their life through a new lens using this new terminology, and this is leading to all sorts of insights. Ideally, once a person begins to internalize this new way of seeing the world and themselves, they won't need to make the topic front and center in every conversation (or social media post), and eventually, the "therapy speak" will taper off. Edited August 15, 2018 by ChristmasJones 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4589042
ginger90 August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 2 hours ago, druzy said: How far apart were these posts then? tylerbaltierramtvIf everyone would like to know...I am at my sister Amber’s intensive family therapy week program supporting my family in any way they need me, because that’s what I am supposed to do...it’s my call to arms & my honor to support the people I love. So please be nice to my wife, she has been through more than any of you know & we should be lifting each other up as a spiritually connected species, not tearing each other down. Be kind & project love out into the universe & you will be surprised on what the universe gives back to you. ??❤️? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4589447
druzy August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, ginger90 said: How far apart were these posts then? tylerbaltierramtvIf everyone would like to know...I am at my sister Amber’s intensive family therapy week program supporting my family in any way they need me, because that’s what I am supposed to do...it’s my call to arms & my honor to support the people I love. So please be nice to my wife, she has been through more than any of you know & we should be lifting each other up as a spiritually connected species, not tearing each other down. Be kind & project love out into the universe & you will be surprised on what the universe gives back to you. ??❤️? That's what confused me! The other day he was he was answering his call to arms. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4589542
MaddyMaeboxerbabe August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 3 hours ago, ChristmasJones said: Tyler is exhibiting a well-known phenomenon - often times, when people get into therapy for the first time, they can get kind of taken over by it and start using a bunch of new phrases and language that they learn from their therapist - boundaries, self-care, etc. Its all very exciting as they are suddenly looking at their life through a new lens using this new terminology, and this is leading to all sorts of insights. Ideally, once a person begins to internalize this new way of seeing the world and themselves, they won't need to make the topic front and center in every conversation (or social media post), and eventually, the "therapy speak" will taper off. EXCEPT, Tyler has said he has been seeing a therapist since like 8 years old?? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4589638
Snarky McSnarky August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Please, Tyler. Write some more stuff. We live for your writing! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4589753
druzy August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4589973
druzy August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4590212
christie August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 (edited) I'm just jotting down a few random thoughts that I had reading the posts: Tyler likes to portray this image of him as a loving, supportive husband/father/son/brother who puts everybody's needs above his own *cough, cough* but every now and then his real feelings are revealed by the words or phrases he uses; words like "duty" (which he used in an older post) and phrases like "that’s what I am supposed to do," to me, convey the impression that he doesn't so these things out of love or because he wants to Jeus, God there are people out there asking for more of Tyler's "poetry?" There are people who find this helpful? Just who ae these people? What kind of person finds that inspirational? If it's a fake account or someone being sarcastic then ok but if it's real then WTH? That wedding picture. Really, Cate thinks he looks sexy in this picture? I don't know if it's the lighting or bad makeup (I'm guesing the latter) but he looks like he has a brownish line running across his forehead. With his whitened teeth, plucked eyebrows and that pose he looks so fake - like a store dummy. Tyler's standing there feeling very proud of himself, happy that the cameras are there, posing and preening for them, his body is twisted away from Cate and towards the cameras; he's completely ignoring his wife. Cate, on the other hand, is looking at Tyler, her body is facing him and she looks unsure of herself, like she's looking for approval or some kind of acknowledgement from him. A picture really is worth more than a thousand words. Edited August 16, 2018 by christie I can spell, I just can't type. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4591261
CandysWrapRoom August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 He looks like Butch. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4591679
druzy August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4591971
LBS August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 Tyler - pull your shorts up and stop flexing. Also do they only go to rehab centers where it's warm? 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4592004
MyPeopleAreNordic August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, christie said: That wedding picture. Really, Cate thinks he looks sexy in this picture? I don't know if it's the lighting or bad makeup (I'm guesing the latter) but he looks like he has a brownish line running across his forehead. With his whitened teeth, plucked eyebrows and that pose he looks so fake - like a store dummy. Tyler's standing there feeling very proud of himself, happy that the cameras are there, posing and preening for them, his body is twisted away from Cate and towards the cameras; he's completely ignoring his wife. Cate, on the other hand, is looking at Tyler, her body is facing him and she looks unsure of herself, like she's looking for approval or some kind of acknowledgement from him. A picture really is worth more than a thousand words. I feel like the part I bolded above - Tyler's standing there feeling very proud of himself - basically sums up Tyler in a nutshell. 3 hours ago, allienc said: He looks like Butch. Butch is better looking. (Yeah, I said it.) Edited August 16, 2018 by MyPeopleAreNordic 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4592230
dariafan August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 Tyler needs a happy planner and see all his “goals” and dreams. ...and maybe focus. We know he can focus, he did the working out And I really hope the asking for new poetry was sarcastic 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4592306
CaliforniaLove August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 In that wedding picture, Tyler looks like he just got done performing in a gay cabaret. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4592554
ghoulina August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 20 hours ago, druzy said: I've never been one of those who thought Tyler was gay, and I haven't changed my mind - but damn. He looks extra flamboyant in this picture. No, what this pic really says is - Catelynn adores her husband. And so does he. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4592784
ginger90 August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 I think he looks toasted. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4592862
OldButHappy August 17, 2018 Share August 17, 2018 I'm having Stuart Smalley flashbacks.... 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4594834
druzy August 17, 2018 Share August 17, 2018 Flashback Friday- Cate and Tyler's wedding invitation: 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4595681
druzy August 18, 2018 Share August 18, 2018 (edited) Edited August 18, 2018 by druzy 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4597524
ginger90 August 18, 2018 Share August 18, 2018 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4598242
CandysWrapRoom August 18, 2018 Share August 18, 2018 oh my god this is worse than the worst waist trainer-flat tummy tea-lularoe-lipsense combo 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4598624
kokapetl August 18, 2018 Share August 18, 2018 On 18/08/2018 at 12:05 AM, druzy said: Flashback Friday- Cate and Tyler's wedding invitation: I remember that invitation. Depression era/ye olde tymey castle wedding. And that dumb hat of hers. Tyler’s tuxedo with tails is ugly, stupid, and not trendy. That’s a point in the “not gay” column. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4598881
Marisagf August 18, 2018 Share August 18, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, ginger90 said: 6 hours ago, allienc said: oh my god this is worse than the worst waist trainer-flat tummy tea-lularoe-lipsense combo You know when I first saw this photo, I thought it was for some stupid new product in the Tierra Reign line of products. I misread the label on the candle! Edited August 18, 2018 by Marisagf 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7346-catelynn-and-tyler/page/153/#findComment-4599452
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