S10.E08: A Frittered Friendship

[Chit Chat]

4 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I don't know anything about the fourth wall but IMHO production definitely manipulated that dinner scene.  It was way too fake to be believable.   

From what I've seen of several of the Real Housewives shows, a lot of what these women say and do is utterly ridiculous.  I'm not saying it's not scripted, but for the most part I'd say that you can't make this shit up.  ;) 

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

From what I've seen of several of the Real Housewives shows, a lot of what these women say and do is utterly ridiculous.  I'm not saying it's not scripted, but for the most part I'd say that you can't make this shit up.  ;) 

Praise the baby Jesus there is a new Potomac tonight to clean the palate lol

[AnnA]

7 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Praise the baby Jesus there is a new Potomac tonight to clean the palate lol

How many RH's shows are still on?    I'm down to three, NY, BH and OC.  If Dorit and Ericka are still around next year, I might be down to two. 

Edited May 27, 2018 by AnnA

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, AnnA said:

How many RH's shows are still on?    I' 

Right now it’s New York and Potomac (which I am loving this season of )they always have at least 2 going on at any given time 

[SuprSuprElevated]

3 hours ago, AnnA said:

Let's not forget that Carole did this for money...

                   ...I rest my case.

They've all done some things for money, that would rest cases.  This, by her own words - 

[AnnA]

4 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Right now it’s New York and Potomac (which I am loving this season of )they always have at least 2 going on at any given time 

Thanks.   So all together there are six - NY, OC, BH, ATL, NJ and Potomac.    I gave up on ATL years ago. There was just so much NeNe and Kim I could take.   I flat out refuse to watch NJ because of the felon and never got into Potomac.  

[missy jo]

New York is my favorite franchise by far. 

[AnnA]

2 minutes ago, missy jo said:

New York is my favorite franchise by far. 

Mine too!

[Former Nun]

29 minutes ago, AnnA said:

32 minutes ago, missy jo said:

New York is my favorite franchise by far. 

Mine too!

New York is my ONLY franchise these days.  I've given up on the others...but never watched Atlanta or Potomac.  I think if Bethenny goes, I'll go too.

[SuprSuprElevated]

38 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Thanks.   So all together there are six - NY, OC, BH, ATL, NJ and Potomac.    I gave up on ATL years ago. There was just so much NeNe and Kim I could take.   I flat out refuse to watch NJ because of the felon and never got into Potomac.  

Dallas

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

4 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

She’s never fooled me either I’ve never liked Beth from season one!

Woot! Yours, truly!!!!! She is soul-less. 

[Former Nun]

10 hours ago, Drumpf1737 said:

I loved Dorinda's first rule was Len worked for her and they can come to her or just be grown ups. I like a hostess that protects and respects her staff.

When she originally wrote that rule it probably said, "Ramona, Len works for me...."

[Former Nun]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

The guy is marketing himself.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[walnutqueen]

1 hour ago, Giselle said:

Perfect!!!

 

God I love you Walnut!!!

Your lurve is fully requited, G.  And what's NOT to love about gamboling baby goats, I ask you?  ;-)

We could all use a brief break from the endless circular debates, parsing of quotes and borderline sniping. The next episode can't come soon enough for me ...

Topic?  Sonja's still an asshole.

[Gem 10]

51 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Mine too!

oops .. Wrong thread.

[AnnA]

38 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Dallas

Is it any good?

42 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

New York is my ONLY franchise these days.  I've given up on the others...but never watched Atlanta or Potomac.  I think if Bethenny goes, I'll go too.

 I stopped watching when Bethenny left and came back when she did.   Bethenny makes the show for me.   

Edited May 28, 2018 by AnnA

[WireWrap]

32 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

Your lurve is fully requited, G.  And what's NOT to love about gamboling baby goats, I ask you?  ;-)

We could all use a brief break from the endless circular debates, parsing of quotes and borderline sniping. The next episode can't come soon enough for me ...

Topic?  Sonja's still an asshole.

But, But, BUTT! 

[AnnA]

6 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

Well this is spooky. The main forum page has the "on fire" symbol for this thread. The on fire is showing it to be at post number 666. The on fire post number 666 is about bethenny.

Hmmmmm...

It's up to 669 now and I'm assuming that's the total number of posts

Edited May 28, 2018 by AnnA
Qg

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 hours ago, AnnA said:

Is it any good?

 I stopped watching when Bethenny left and came back when she did.   Bethenny makes the show for me.   

 

I think this is post number 666.

 

eta: Oops!! Sorry, @stewedsquash. I was typing while yours went up.

Edited May 28, 2018 by hoodooznoodooz

[AnnA]

4 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

LOL it was the post above mine at 666. 

 

2 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I think this is post number 666.

Oh goody!   That's my post. ?

Maybe I should say the rosary before bed.  ??

[SuprSuprElevated]

42 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Is it any good?

I watched on and off the first season.  Couldn't believe it was renewed for a 2nd.

So, no.  ymmv

[AnnA]

2 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I watched on and off the first season.  Couldn't believe it was renewed for a 2nd.

So, no.  ymmv

OK thanks.  I won't waste my time checking it out.

[Keywestclubkid]

53 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Is it any good?

 I stopped watching when Bethenny left and came back when she did.   Bethenny makes the show for me.   

Dallas is freaking hilarious they have a coo coo bird that threatens to kill cast mates I live for it lol

[BodhiGurl]

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Personally, I think Bethenny is playing it far smarter than Carole right now-no long blogs, showing e-mails, or going for the jugular, Bethenny knows that stuff sticks forever.  In a couple of weeks it will be all about Luann and her arrest.

What was Dorinda's saying "Write it, regret it, say it, forget it..." Maybe Bethenny is following that "rule" of disagreements with friends, LOL... I do have to say I have to give Bethenny props for not dragging Carole in social media like Carole is doing it to Bethenny... I mean - maybe by the end of the season we'll see why Carole is so lit up but I doubt it. I know some folks are living for Carole's blogs and tweets, her "dragging" of Bethenny, but because we haven't really seen anything super horrible that Bethenny did to Carole (especially when you compare it to past blow ups Bethenny has had with others), IMO it makes Carole look bad. Bethenny has been sarcastic and snarky since day one, her quips during talking heads really shouldn't surprise Carole. Not that Bethenny hasn't said shady stuff about Carole - but again - she's pretty much been that since S1 E1...

[AnnA]

I don't understand Carole's social media attacks either. 

It seems she's either desperate to keep her apple or to keep Adam.  

[Keywestclubkid]

Her attacks? She’s defending herself after Bethenny has been dragging her for 8 episodes while she had no idea. That’s 8 episodes that have been nationally aired. I think she’s more then justified to say everything she’s been saying. Being called a puppet behind her back while lying to her face about saying it. being called a mouth piece when she had no problem with her last season being hers. Bethenny has been gunning for Carol since episode one of this season.  I will be so glad when this switch’s to Luann being the focus 

Edited May 28, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[WireWrap]

5 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I don't understand Carole's social media attacks either. 

It seems she's either desperate to keep her apple or to keep Adam.  

Carole has always used SM to fight on, she did it with Aviva/Luann, it has nothing to do with keeping her Apple or Adam. She use's SM to "talk" about everything, from the show to politics. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

20 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm boring in real life. So very boring.

My mother, however, would be a fantastic real housewife. She's a retired social worker. She was born in Nigeria, but was raised all over the globe because her father was a diplomat. Her mother gave all of her kids a complex about their appearances and marrying people of the right station. My mom worked for the U.N., sailed around the world, and even became a merchant marine. 

She also has the world's weirdest collection of friends and acquaintances that it's sometimes hard to unpack why she dislikes someone. She tells this one story the same way every time. She says "I had a roommate who once grabbed my hair and slammed my head into the sink when I put a dirty bowl and spoon in the sink right after she finished washing a sink full of dishes. Did I ever tell you that I went to college with Martha Stewart." The obvious question is if Martha slammed her head into the sink. My mom swears that it wasn't Martha, but she still tells the story the same way. Coincidentally, she doesn't like Martha Stewart. She also seems to hate Mick Jagger. I don't know if it's personal either. I also remember her having a phone conversation with a former classmate when the classmate's son was nominated for an Oscar in "Brokeneck...oh, Brokeback Mountain. I think I've heard of it. Well, my daughter just graduated from law school." This is an actual quote from my mother.

Wow! She sounds PERFECT for Real Housewives! Hilarious! What an interesting childhood you must have had. 

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, stewedsquash said:

Well this is spooky. The main forum page has the "on fire" symbol for this thread. The on fire is showing it to be at post number 666. The on fire post number 666 is about bethenny.

Hmmmmm...

It's a sign.

 

3 hours ago, AnnA said:

Thanks.   So all together there are six - NY, OC, BH, ATL, NJ and Potomac.    I gave up on ATL years ago. There was just so much NeNe and Kim I could take.   I flat out refuse to watch NJ because of the felon and never got into Potomac.  

Seven, there is also Dallas.

Edited May 28, 2018 by Giselle
In my best Count voice " 7! There are 7 housewife shows!"

[breezy424]

5 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I do believe the comp part is a dicey area for production.  It will never be addressed at the episode level.  I agreed with what Carole allegedly told Bethenny about Adam being an operator.  All the business people do it.  Especially Bethenny. There is a reason they go to a certain casino and film and then lo and behold during airing of the episodes there is a RH night at the same casino.  I am sure Adam just figured it was another benefit of being in the RH world-the one Luann originally introduced him to.  The guy is marketing himself.

I am not a Bethenny fan but I don't think she would make up a conversation with Carole.  I feel as if what Bethenny is doing is trying to get Carole to stop breaking the fourth wall stuff.  She pretty much asked Carole what she was doing.  Carole wants to know what the rift is between she and Bethenny and at the same time defend anything Bethenny might consider a rift.  Let Bethenny get her gripe out and then tear it down.  

Personally, I think Bethenny is playing it far smarter than Carole right now-no long blogs, showing e-mails, or going for the jugular, Bethenny knows that stuff sticks forever.  In a couple of weeks it will be all about Luann and her arrest.

Why would the comp part be a dicey area for production?  They weren't filming at the time and it was between Beth and Adam.  Production didn't go to Houston.

I'm confused about what Carole allegedly told Beth about Adam being an operator.  Why would Carole say anything like that to Beth.  I thought it was Beth that allegedly said it to Carole.

I don't think Carole is breaking the fourth wall at all.  Carole and Beth's rift started last summer before filming.  I think it's all about Beth asking Adam to go to Houston and in the end he couldn't do it because of finances.  Beth is a grudge holder and always has to have control.  Carole defended Adam and then....you're not faithful to Beth so therefore you're out. 

Is Beth playing it smarter than Carole?  Well, I don't know about that.  Didn't she tweet that her organization asked Adam to go to Florida?  Which completely contradicts what she said to Doris on film?  She made herself look even worse at the dinner table when she said to Carole she didn't email him.  She didn't text him.  I think in the end, she knows she looked a bit foolish in that argument because Carole didn't back down like others have done in the past.  Beth didn't 'win' that one with the minutia.  Next week apparently she says she's done and walks out.  That's what Beth does when she can't handle it.

Yeah, Lu gets arrested in a few weeks but I don't think the Carole/Beth rift is going to die. 

[Giselle]

3 hours ago, AnnA said:

Is it any good?

 

Re: Dallas???

No. It's just a merry go round each season of Jesus juice, carny rage, pink princess creepyness and a man who likes to play Barbie with his wife.

Edited May 28, 2018 by Giselle

[AnnA]

41 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Her attacks? She’s defending herself after Bethenny has been dragging her for 8 episodes while she had no idea. That’s 8 episodes that have been nationally aired. I think she’s more then justified to say everything she’s been saying. Being called a puppet behind her back while lying to her face about saying it. being called a mouth piece when she had no problem with her last season being hers. Bethenny has been gunning for Carol since episode one of this season.  I will be so glad when this switch’s to Luann being the focus 

 

I was talking about her social media attacks.    

Bethenny didnt call Carole a puppet.  That was Ramona - even Carole knows it.

20 minutes ago, Giselle said:

Re: Dallas???

No.

Thanks.   So far that's two no responses and one yes.

Edited May 28, 2018 by AnnA

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

Carole gets 95/100 ninjas on standing up to Bethenny in an argument. I’ll watch the first part of this upcoming week on a PTVer’s sage advice, hoping for more!

Bethy’s THs: can she get more bitter and poisonous?

Edited May 28, 2018 by BckpckFullaNinjas

[BodhiGurl]

10 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I was talking about her social media attacks.    

Bethenny didnt call Carole a puppet.  That was Ramona - even Carole knows it.

Thanks.   So far that's two no responses and one yes.

Yep. While Bethenny did kind of admit she may have insinuated that Carole was a puppet - in one of her talking heads - she did not, in fact, literally say Carole was a puppet and in said talking head I honestly was amused at how she put it. She wasn't harsh - IMO - we all see things differently based upon who we are less annoyed by - so admittedly my opinion is due to the fact I'm not really a fan of Carole overall. She's had moments over her time with RHONY where I didn't mind her so much but overall - meh. She could leave the show and I wouldn't notice her absence (unlike if Luann, Bethenny, Ramona, Dorinda, or even Sonja left - I'd notice it) . I think most of us agree that Tinsley really hasn't added much to the show (I don't mind Tins too much, but her storylines are weak). Anywho.

RHO Dallas is meh... I watched the earlier seasons via Hulu and sort of got slightly hooked in that I would watch this most recent season in spurts - but it's not worth getting invested in it in my opinion :) I've given Potomac a chance, it's not terrible - but it's another one that isn't must see for me - I catch up when I catch up, LOL :) 

[hoodooznoodooz]

12 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Quite honestly if it is economy of time I would watch the last 15 minutes and the first fifteen minutes of Wednesday's episode.  There is almost an Emmy worthy shutdown of Bethenny-and it isn't just Carole.

@zoeysmom, did you access a sneak peak of the upcoming episode? How do you know others in addition to Carole also shut down Beth?

[Keywestclubkid]

34 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I was talking about her social media attacks.    

Bethenny didnt call Carole a puppet.  That was Ramona - even Carole knows it.

Thanks.   So far that's two no responses and one yes.

 

I think it’s the end of the on a island episode right before or after she yanks Ramona to the side and changes her story to say she meant to call Carol “wing man”. Then  Bethennys talking head basically says she described Carol has a puppet IE she’s wooden and blah blah blah with that shit eating smile and says she technically never used the word puppet then insinuates again that she’s a Puppet. Its semantics with the wording 

Edited May 28, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[WireWrap]

20 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I was talking about her social media attacks.    

Bethenny didnt call Carole a puppet.  That was Ramona - even Carole knows it.

Thanks.   So far that's two no responses and one yes.

She, Bethenny, used every other word/description for puppet that she could without actually using that word. Bottom line, no matter how she worded it, what she meant was that Carole is a "puppet" and she admitted to it in her TH. Once again, Bethenny is playing word games, "I didn't say the word puppet, even though that is what I meant, so it doesn't count"! LOL 

[AnnA]

20 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think it’s the end of the on a island episode right before or after she yanks Ramona to the side and changes her story to say she meant to call Carol “wing man”. Then  Bethennys talking head basically says she described Carol has a puppet IE she’s wooden and blah blah blah with that shit eating smile and says she technically never used the word puppet then insinuates again that she’s a Puppet. Its semantics again with the wording 

 

 

20 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

She, Bethenny, used every other word/description for puppet that she could without actually using that word. Bottom line, no matter how she worded it, what she meant was that Carole is a "puppet" and she admitted to it in her TH. Once again, Bethenny is playing word games, "I didn't say the word puppet, even though that is what I meant, so it doesn't count"! LOL 

OK  I don't pay much attention to the THs.   I dont like them - think they're dumb and often totally ridiculous.

Edited May 28, 2018 by AnnA

[Keywestclubkid]

15 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 

OK  I don't pay much attention to the THs.   I always thought they were a dumb idea and often totally ridiculous.

Yea I think the talking heads are what get most of the housewives repissed off when they finally see the episodes aired lol 

Edited May 28, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[WireWrap]

19 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 

OK  I don't pay much attention to the THs.   I dont like them - think they're dumb and often totally ridiculous.

I have issues with the THs as well but in hers, Bethenny did admit to saying Carole was a "puppet", so there wasn't any mistaking what she meant. LOL

11 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Yea I think the talking heads are what get most of the housewives repissed off when they finally see the episodes aired lol 

In her blogs, Carole even admits that hearing what Bethenny said directly to the others about her/Adam and in her THs have hurt/confused/angered her as she watches the show at the same time we do. So, Yes, the THs do tick them off even when they have gotten past some slight/fight during filming because it brings it all back. They also forget that their own THs have the same affect on the others as well. LOL IMO, they have the TH segments to remind each HW how upset they were/what they were thinking during filming so that it is all fresh in their minds for the reunion. Like production ripping off the scab then pouring/rubbing salt on the now festering wound.

[Diane Mars]

4 hours ago, Giselle said:

... Seven, there is also Dallas.

Eight : and Cheshire <3 <3 <3 I love it ! (and don't forget Melbourne and Sydney)

[zoeysmom]

9 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Carole did shut Bethenny down, she stopped Bethenny from playing her word game, I didn't "call" him, I didn't "text" him, It wasn't "Sunday", which is what Bethenny does to stop the others from speaking the truth when it makes her look bad/in the wrong. Carole didn't allow Bethenny to control the conversation, which threw Bethenny off her game and scrambling to throw Carole off hers (she failed). 

  Bethenny is making the conversation (the one she never had) with Adam more nefarious to make herself look better, she has done this before. Bethenny exaggerates to the extreme where there is little, if any, truth left in what she says and I don't think she was trying to protect Carole, she was protecting herself. There is no 4th wall here, this had nothing to do with production manipulating anything, they weren't filming when HH hit Huston or when Bethenny went down there, so nothing for Bethenny to protect Carole from. IMO, Bethenny asked Carole what was she doing because she didn't think Carole would stand up for herself. 

What I mean by the fourth wall is the idea that these reality people are just schmos who stumble on these opportunities.  When Bethenny opined the "operator" assessment of Adam, I don't know that it was necessarily connected to the Houston situation or a culmination of various Adam opportunities presented via the connection with the show.  Bethenny has said she wished she could stuff it back into her mouth.

I would think if Adam was contacted by e-mail, he would have responded by e-mail.  I doubt volunteers in Houston had access to Bethenny's e-mail account.  There is a record.  That is what I mean about Bethenny not going scorched earth on Carole at this point.  She knows there is rarely a happy ending when you burn a friendship down to smoke and ash.

This is just me, but when people are having a contentious conversation I want to start with a firm understanding of what the situation was at the time of the alleged offense.   I certainly would never allow drunken Dorinda to be the one to establish the understanding.  Carole is now claiming Bethenny didn't support her during her half marathon, instead she was busy cutting Luann down.  This is a pattern with Bethenny and Carole both-they love to point out others' shortcomings-especially Luann's.   I don't think Bethenny is the friend to have when one gets the merit badge for finishing something.  I have never seen her compliment Kyle on anything and they are great friends.  I don't even think Bethenny went to Kyle's big premiere on Wednesday night of her new show.  I get it Carole needs recognition for her athletic pursuits, I just find it weird.  It is like saying to someone-congratulations on your work out today.  On the horizon is Ramona calling Bethenny out for not being supportive-I don't think it is an anti-woman thing, I believe Bethenny doesn't compliment unless there is something in it for her.  

[zoeysmom]

5 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Why would the comp part be a dicey area for production?  They weren't filming at the time and it was between Beth and Adam.  Production didn't go to Houston.

I'm confused about what Carole allegedly told Beth about Adam being an operator.  Why would Carole say anything like that to Beth.  I thought it was Beth that allegedly said it to Carole.

I don't think Carole is breaking the fourth wall at all.  Carole and Beth's rift started last summer before filming.  I think it's all about Beth asking Adam to go to Houston and in the end he couldn't do it because of finances.  Beth is a grudge holder and always has to have control.  Carole defended Adam and then....you're not faithful to Beth so therefore you're out. 

Is Beth playing it smarter than Carole?  Well, I don't know about that.  Didn't she tweet that her organization asked Adam to go to Florida?  Which completely contradicts what she said to Doris on film?  She made herself look even worse at the dinner table when she said to Carole she didn't email him.  She didn't text him.  I think in the end, she knows she looked a bit foolish in that argument because Carole didn't back down like others have done in the past.  Beth didn't 'win' that one with the minutia.  Next week apparently she says she's done and walks out.  That's what Beth does when she can't handle it.

Yeah, Lu gets arrested in a few weeks but I don't think the Carole/Beth rift is going to die. 

To me, comps and discussion of pay are are essentially the sausage being made on the show.  I liken it to  these suppose trips hosted by so and so.  Or like last year when Ramona flat out said she was going on the trip because Bethenny had no say whether or not she would go. As the days go by I think Dorinda is partly responsible for creating a shitstorm between Carole and Bethenny because Dorinda has never had the courage to stand up to Bethenny in a sustained fashion and always ends up groveling back to her.  I do think Carole has a point she has never spoken ill of Bethenny, I just don't think what Bethenny said is all the bad about Adam.  Carole and Bethenny certainly had no problems talking about Tom.  Deflection on Dorinda's part for making an ass out of herself.  Carole would not have defended drunken Dorinda behavior or maybe it is her new thing sticking up for the drunks-Ramona, Tinsley and Dorinda.

I screwed up it was Bethenny saying operator to Carole, not the other way around-typo not a factual assertion.  I do think that conversation occurred and I do believe Dorinda screwed it up and claimed that Bethenny told Carole, they had the conversation in regards to Houston and it may have before Houston or well after Houston.  Bethenny tweeted the people in Texas e-mailed Adam.  I could not tell if Carole was angry over Bethenny contacting Adam or what the deal is.  Quite frankly it is really none of Carole's effing business who contacts Adam or how.  He is a business person and unless Carole is his agent or assistant he needs to be able to respond to offers.  If the off the table the contacting, that only leaves Adam's response to the request.  Clearly, they can't even figure out what transpired.  If Adam brought up compensation and it turned Bethenny off, that is her right.  I just didn't agree with Bethenny saying nurses and teachers were less affluent than Adam-bitch move.

My reason for saying the Carole/Beth rift is going to die is Andy saying the argument is ambiguous-as in they settle nothing because Carole derails the conversation into a Luann dig.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

6 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Then  Bethennys talking head basically says she described Carol has a puppet IE she’s wooden and blah blah blah with that shit eating smile and says she technically never used the word puppet then insinuates again that she’s a Puppet. Its semantics with the wording 

This! It's all semantics and exaggeration. Didn't Bethenny say she spent all summer on hurricane relief ? Houston hit 8/25 & PR mid September, that's less than 3 weeks of summer and let's be honest a NYCers Hamptonites summer is Memorial Day to Labor Day! 

[weaver]

11 hours ago, Former Nun said:

New York is my ONLY franchise these days.  I've given up on the others...but never watched Atlanta or Potomac.  I think if Bethenny goes, I'll go too.

I'm only watching NY now and plan to stick with it.  Gave up all the others a while ago.  

I'm looking forward to next week's show and to the shows about the fire on the boat.  They should be about as real as RH gets.  I'll love seeing everyone's REAL reactions.  As for the Lu arrest, I don't think we'll see much except the others' reactions.  She wasn't being filmed and went right off to rehab for a month.  

Bethenny's summer rental still available.

https://www.corcoran.com/hamptons-real-estate/for-rent/bridgehampton/2623-montauk-highway/5372767?WebID=101901#

Edited May 28, 2018 by weaver

[WireWrap]

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

What I mean by the fourth wall is the idea that these reality people are just schmos who stumble on these opportunities.  When Bethenny opined the "operator" assessment of Adam, I don't know that it was necessarily connected to the Houston situation or a culmination of various Adam opportunities presented via the connection with the show.  Bethenny has said she wished she could stuff it back into her mouth.

I would think if Adam was contacted by e-mail, he would have responded by e-mail.  I doubt volunteers in Houston had access to Bethenny's e-mail account.  There is a record.  That is what I mean about Bethenny not going scorched earth on Carole at this point.  She knows there is rarely a happy ending when you burn a friendship down to smoke and ash.

This is just me, but when people are having a contentious conversation I want to start with a firm understanding of what the situation was at the time of the alleged offense.   I certainly would never allow drunken Dorinda to be the one to establish the understanding.  Carole is now claiming Bethenny didn't support her during her half marathon, instead she was busy cutting Luann down.  This is a pattern with Bethenny and Carole both-they love to point out others' shortcomings-especially Luann's.   I don't think Bethenny is the friend to have when one gets the merit badge for finishing something.  I have never seen her compliment Kyle on anything and they are great friends.  I don't even think Bethenny went to Kyle's big premiere on Wednesday night of her new show.  I get it Carole needs recognition for her athletic pursuits, I just find it weird.  It is like saying to someone-congratulations on your work out today.  On the horizon is Ramona calling Bethenny out for not being supportive-I don't think it is an anti-woman thing, I believe Bethenny doesn't compliment unless there is something in it for her.  

Bethenny wasn't complimenting Adam by calling him an "operator", she was insulting him/putting him down at the very least and it could affect his business. Bethenny would blow a gasket if someone called her that on national TV.

Bethenny not going scorched earth on Carole could also mean that she knows she is in the wrong and showing any e-mails from the conversation would only support his/Carole's position, not hers. I'm pretty sure Bethenny's "team" consisted of her employees in NY, not people in Huston, and I have no problem believing that they have a list of all her contacts, email/phone numbers/SM contacts/ect., all of them. IMO, Bethenny doesn't value any friendship she develops on the show, including with Carole, so she could care less if she burns it down to smoke/ashes. Bethenny has been saying in interviews that she/Carole weren't all that close to begin with.

Carole does start out asking her why she is upset with her, what happened, what changed and Bethenny doesn't answer, she denies anything is different then tries to deflect instead and that is when Carole gets specific. 

I don't think Bethenny knows how to be a friend, she is too self absorbed/centered. Everything has to revolve around her, so her not going to Kyle's premier is not surprising to me and although they have been "friends" a long time, most of their friendship has been a long distant friendship. The part I bolded only reinforces my belief that Bethenny doesn't know how to be a real/true friend to anyone except friends she only sees a few times a year.

[Keywestclubkid]

Reading over my Many post on this topic  I want to say I really dont hate Bethany, I understand that this is a reality show and has no real bearing on real life. Its just the smugness that she exudes, the joy she takes from tearing people down, the double speak, and the fact that she acts like she thinks shes better in every way from every other lady on this show just urks the crap out of me  :)

[zoeysmom]

10 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

@zoeysmom, did you access a sneak peak of the upcoming episode? How do you know others in addition to Carole also shut down Beth?

If you go to WWHL-episodes the one with Kyle, in the first set, they show the shutdown.  Simon the other guest has an interesting observation of Bethenny-and yes he likes her.

[SheTalksShit]

On 5/26/2018 at 11:28 AM, ivygirl said:

I know Ramona can be terrible and self centered, but there’s something about her weirdness that I find endearing. I also admire how she weathered her divorce (at least from what I’ve seen). It’s far more recent than Sonja’s, and yet we barely ever hear her talk about it. 

yes lol, i don't even find her weird anymore bc i'm so used to watching her eccentricities on TV! 

[SheTalksShit]

15 hours ago, ChitChat said:

From what I've seen of several of the Real Housewives shows, a lot of what these women say and do is utterly ridiculous.  I'm not saying it's not scripted, but for the most part I'd say that you can't make this shit up.  ;) 

I used to work in the tabloid/journalism industry and from interviews i conducted, RH is not scripted, it's more just they set you up in situations you wouldn't otherwise be in, with people you wouldn't otherwise be with, if that makes sense. it's basically their job to hang out with and attend events with these ladies during filming months, in exchange for 6 figure paychecks. would they be attending those dinners with this kind of drama or going on vacation with this group, which includes ppl they don't like, if it wasn't their job? for most of them, most definitely not lol. but as far as what they say and do and how they act at these events, that's real. 

another thing someone once said, that i can sorta see, is that when you're filming for a reality TV show, with cameras all around you, everything becomes magnified by 10 - like every event, every little comment somebody makes, etc. because you don't know if it's gonna air and you don't know how it's gonna be edited and you don't know what people are gonna think if it airs. basically, you know that there's a chance the whole world is gonna see this, so otherwise stupid shit that you'd let go, becomes a big deal, a huge offense, that you feel like you have to defend yourself from. other times, the way people act is simply that they're drunk and pissed off, or genuinely hurt, etc. 

and this show, like any reality show, likes strong personalities who are already prone to being ridiculous, big egos, taking themselves too seriously, over-reacting, etc. soooo mix all of the above together and you've got a real housewives show. 

Edited May 28, 2018 by SheTalksShit