Finals, Training Camp and Social Media

[HateWatcher]

2 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

If I had to chose between Gina and Kashara for point I'd pick neither this season. Kashara is super outgoing and that worked in her favor, but give Gina another season to get her facials down and she'll kill her in the same position. And, if we had to go back in time, I'd still put Holly as point---she kills them both. 

Fair enough.

[LaurenBrook]

12 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

Cianna has always struggled with her weight.  She got it off this year to try out for DCC (but maybe she didn't after seeing this pix).  I don't understand why they take girls that have to watch every bite they take.  You know she is going to put it back on eventually.  Since they only want the thin girls why bother taking a chance on a girl that they know is going to struggle and perhaps have to be cut the next year?  I have seen  Blazer dancer pix of her with her hair straight and I think she looks much better with straight hair.  

Tara's issue as well.  

I need to go look at Cianna's social media more, she is one i know so little about but would guess she's naturally tiny from the little bit i've seen LOL apparently i was wrong! as a curly girl i love her hair. #represent 

[pinkandsparkly13]

34 minutes ago, Opine said:

I actually don't recall anyone saying Jaylyn wasn't pretty.  Many people (including me!) didn't like the maroon (violet) hair.  She's a beautiful girl.  I hesitate to even say this but I think the least HD ready look is the Hannah.  Of course, Brennan's issues have been discussed at length, but I will say I teared up when I saw her in the uniform.

Ah well I remembered at least one person saying towards the beginning of training camp that she wasn't cute and would be cut for that reason. After looking at a couple pics myself, I thought they were crazy. Hah, she's definitely not ugly, but I understand about her hair color. I agree about Hannah after seeing what's been featured, but I still like her. 

[5678Pixie]

3 minutes ago, LaurenBrook said:

Tara's issue as well.  

I need to go look at Cianna's social media more, she is one i know so little about but would guess she's naturally tiny from the little bit i've seen LOL apparently i was wrong! as a curly girl i love her hair. #represent 

Cianna looks a lot heavier in her college pix and first year on Blazers.  I can't find any pix with her hair curly in the past.  She must have decided to go curly for DCC.  

Edited August 21, 2018 by 5678Pixie

[Loves2Dance]

2 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

Cianna looks a lot heavier in her college pix and first year on Blazers.  I can't find any pix with her hair curly in the past.  She must have decided to go curly for DCC.  

She had straight hair at auditions I think, her makeover went curly. 

[MssdDrms]

6 hours ago, HowdeeDo said:

But they were already “World Class” before the show, and extremely prominent even before K&J. Not to discredit Charlotte at all, but the DCC were accomplished well before her. 

DCC popularity exploded with that infamous calendar in the 80’s.  Hot hot hot!!  I don’t know who was at the helm at the time, but they had a lot to build from after that! Seems like every young woman wanted to be a DCC.

Edited August 21, 2018 by MssdDrms
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[HateWatcher]

Kashara is such a polarizing figure on this blog. I like her as a DCC personality, but did get sick of the Kashmania of last year. But to be fair, she was thrown A LOT of responsibility all at once last season. Question. Has any one in DCC history ever ...

1. Made point half way through training camp

2. Become a group leader

3. Get accepted into show group

4. Take part of The Star opening and Christmas Gala

5. Sent to All Stars

All in one season? Relate before you hate.

Edited August 21, 2018 by HateWatcher

[Gham]

26 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

Cianna has always struggled with her weight.  She got it off this year to try out for DCC (but maybe she didn't after seeing this pix).  I don't understand why they take girls that have to watch every bite they take.  You know she is going to put it back on eventually.  Since they only want the thin girls why bother taking a chance on a girl that they know is going to struggle and perhaps have to be cut the next year?  I have seen  Blazer dancer pix of her with her hair straight and I think she looks much better with straight hair.  

Where did you hear that Cianna has struggled with her weight? She’s always been small and in shape since I’ve known her. 

[Stephieg84]

27 minutes ago, hypeman said:

It sure was a mess. Her group was subpar last year. More girls got cut from her group than any other. Since the GL's teach and clean the routines, that's squarely on her. It appears that it wasn't just being new to leadership last year, because the issue persists.

It's funny that someone tried to blame Keyra for Heather getting booted from leadership. Keyra was in group 1.

The legend of Kashara continues to be more (edited) flash than substance.

I’ve never seen that theory regarding Keyra/Heather. Was it on here??

[Gham]

2 minutes ago, Gham said:

Where did you hear that Cianna has struggled with her weight? She’s always been small and in shape since I’ve known her. 

Top picture is 2017 bottom is 2014

[LaurenBrook]

31 minutes ago, hypeman said:

It sure was a mess. Her group was subpar last year. More girls got cut from her group than any other. Since the GL's teach and clean the routines, that's squarely on her. It appears that it wasn't just being new to leadership last year, because the issue persists.

It's funny that someone tried to blame Keyra for Heather getting booted from leadership. Keyra was in group 1.

The legend of Kashara continues to be more (edited) flash than substance.

funny how we see things differently.  kash's group was the only one i enjoyed watching, Maddie's a little bit too but Kash's was so fun. they looked great!! 

4 minutes ago, Stephieg84 said:

I’ve never seen that theory regarding Keyra/Heather. Was it on here??

i've never seen that either.  maybe it was deleted? 

[LaurenBrook]

20 minutes ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Ah well I remembered at least one person saying towards the beginning of training camp that she wasn't cute and would be cut for that reason. After looking at a couple pics myself, I thought they were crazy. Hah, she's definitely not ugly, but I understand about her hair color. I agree about Hannah after seeing what's been featured, but I still like her. 

i'm too lazy to go back but lots of people were calling her 'cheap looking' and trashy look wise.  i'm so glad she's looking fierce and that her dancing is amazing. and the first rookie with the Abbey Bear! i love it!! 

[Christineelgene]

14 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

She had straight hair at auditions I think, her makeover went curly. 

I went back and looked and her hair was curly during semis and finals.  They did comment at prelims that the color was not right.  

I did not see that she looked less toned, so it might just be the angle.  Kelli and Judy commented on her power during the finals combination, but said nothing about her weight.

[Jess14]

40 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

Cianna has always struggled with her weight.  She got it off this year to try out for DCC (but maybe she didn't after seeing this pix).  I don't understand why they take girls that have to watch every bite they take.  You know she is going to put it back on eventually.  Since they only want the thin girls why bother taking a chance on a girl that they know is going to struggle and perhaps have to be cut the next year?  I have seen  Blazer dancer pix of her with her hair straight and I think she looks much better with straight hair.  

Interesting. I would've never guessed that. I guess she's similar to Hannah. Hannah was so tiny her first season and then got cut for weight the second year. I found that shocking because she had seemed to just be naturally super skinny. I guess you can never really tell.  

[bigskygirl]

2 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

Exactly! If they were just an average cheerleading group before Charlotte, they wouldn't have had a snowballs chance in getting into the Smithsonian. Their longevity as being iconic, world class, and above the rest dates back way before K&J&C were in charge. 

Kelli said the big part of the reason why they made it into the Smithsonian was due to the show being on for so many years, having girls from across the country and other countries trying out for the team, and having girls like Yuko and Jinelle on the squad. She said it took a long time for them to finally get into the museum.

[JustRosie]

Has Charlotte’s daughter ever tried out for DCC?  Is she a dancer?

[PrincessLeia]

14 minutes ago, LaurenBrook said:

i'm too lazy to go back but lots of people were calling her 'cheap looking' and trashy look wise.  i'm so glad she's looking fierce and that her dancing is amazing. and the first rookie with the Abbey Bear! i love it!! 

I was not a fan at all.... based on that photo. I admit I thought she looked trashy. But I was completely wrong. She is gorgeous and so well spoken. 

[HateWatcher]

4 minutes ago, MamaV said:

Has Charlotte’s daughter ever tried out for DCC?  Is she a dancer?

Just me being catty. I can imagine Charlotte Jones Anderson telling her daughter that being a DCC is beneath their status as a Jones.

[5678Pixie]

24 minutes ago, MamaV said:

Has Charlotte’s daughter ever tried out for DCC?  Is she a dancer?

Looks like Charlotte thought Haley would be a DCC when she was younger.  Haley "#still tryingtolivethedream"

 

 

Edited August 21, 2018 by 5678Pixie

[sleepyjean]

11 hours ago, DCCFAN71 said:

Have not ever been a Brennan fan but her ATT Stadium locker pic is one of my favorites. I like the pose.

I think she looks pretty, but Tyra Banks would call her a "no-neck monster" LOL

 

5 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

The collage of cameos shown at F&F night (which was posted several pages back) is in order by Groups. 

Thank you for figuring that out. It was driving me nuts. Not by tenure. Not alpha by first or last name. No way it was random...now it makes sense.

2 hours ago, Jess14 said:

Gina is excellent in DCC choreo and may give Holly a run for her money in other styles as well. I do think Holly has more sex appeal than Gina though. Gina's facials still aren't the best IMO.

Holly has so much charisma as a performer. Gina is as powerful, but not quite as charismatic.

2 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

I have to respectfully disagree.  Body wise, they want long and lean as a general rule because of the "unforgiving" uniform.  They cut girls all the time after cameos when they look boxy or their legs look too short in the uniform.  The only times I can remember when they've fought to keep someone with a shorter, stockier frame is when they're face is super pretty and super photogenic.  

I agree. Long and lean, with a curve to the waist, a small bottom, and boobs that either are or can be made to look substantial. Flat toned stomach and arms, but not too much visible muscle. I also think they allow one or two girls to deviate so as to appeal to certain "types." Some guys like petite, some like tight gymnast bodies, some like a bit more hourglass. Kelli wouldn't want a full squad of any one of those three types, but still wants to appeal to those different groups. (Same reason why she has a couple of girls who are more "cute" than beautiful, or a couple with short hair. From the neck up, the DCC type is pretty clear.) Long, highlighted hair, parted on the side, with loose waves. Large eyes, small nose, bright smile, and symmetrical features. Surprisingly, they don't seem to go for full lips. With a few exceptions, most of these women are very thin-lipped.

1 hour ago, 5678Pixie said:

 I don't understand why they take girls that have to watch every bite they take.

Which ones don't have to? That's what I'd like to know. I'd guess Lacey, Amy, Kelli...

[LaurenBrook]

12 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I think she looks pretty, but Tyra Banks would call her a "no-neck monster" LOL

 

Thank you for figuring that out. It was driving me nuts. Not by tenure. Not alpha by first or last name. No way it was random...now it makes sense.

Holly has so much charisma as a performer. Gina is as powerful, but not quite as charismatic.

I agree. Long and lean, with a curve to the waist, a small bottom, and boobs that either are or can be made to look substantial. Flat toned stomach and arms, but not too much visible muscle. I also think they allow one or two girls to deviate so as to appeal to certain "types." Some guys like petite, some like tight gymnast bodies, some like a bit more hourglass. Kelli wouldn't want a full squad of any one of those three types, but still wants to appeal to those different groups. (Same reason why she has a couple of girls who are more "cute" than beautiful, or a couple with short hair. From the neck up, the DCC type is pretty clear.) Long, highlighted hair, parted on the side, with loose waves. Large eyes, small nose, bright smile, and symmetrical features. Surprisingly, they don't seem to go for full lips. With a few exceptions, most of these women are very thin-lipped.

Which ones don't have to? That's what I'd like to know. I'd guess Lacey, Amy, Kelli...

unless kelli and amy have beat genetics i think they have to watch pretty closely, at least Kelli since she's in her 30s.  amy might have a few more years of metabolism in her favor.  

i'm sure they all watch though and jay wasn't wrong when he talked about eating for PERFORMANCE more than anything. even dcc alumni who are naturally thinner watched their diets and worked out with trainers several days a week.  the price we pay for our dreams :) 

[DiehardDCCFan]

   ON 8/19/2018 AT 5:50 PM,  DIEHARDDCCFAN SAID: 

I’m the girl that had a Future DCC tee all through elementary school and wrote my first “real” letter to the DCC, and got a picture back

ok that's pretty darn adorable :)

@ByTor Thank you! I try....LOL

[ClosetDCCFan]

3 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

They have exactly 4 rookies in each Group.  That seems kinda lucky.  Or did they move groups around after final cuts?  

 

3 hours ago, Holly85 said:

I still have pics from when they went to team bonding I’ll look and see if they moved anyone around !! 

Update ashlee was in group 1 

Erin was in group 1 

Oh, interesting.  Thanks for finding that.  That has to be difficult as a rookie to switch leaders so late in TC, but I would think Erin is excited that she an Madeline are in the same Group now.  

[ClosetDCCFan]

2 hours ago, Jess14 said:

Allie and Keyra? Both are cute girls, but I wouldn't say either is super pretty or photogenic. Very good dancers though, and of course both were cut the following year. I may be misunderstanding what you mean by "fought for," though. 

I just rewatched the first few episodes, and Judy is being awfully quiet. I hope this doesn't last. I always appreciate her insight.  

I guess I just meant that they act like they're pulling for these girls who don't fit the mold, but then they most often cut them for that very reason (either before they make it or after one year).  So obviously there is a DCC look, and short and stocky is not it. 

And I couldn't agree with you more about Judy.  Im guessing she knows when to keep her mouth shut.  

[DCC.Style.fan]

13 minutes ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

 

Oh, interesting.  Thanks for finding that.  That has to be difficult as a rookie to switch leaders so late in TC, but I would think Erin is excited that she an Madeline are in the same Group now.  

I saw Erin dancing right behind Kashara when dancing in the group or have the groups changed since Meet the Team? 

[Holly85]

2 minutes ago, DCC.Style.fan said:

I saw Erin dancing right behind Kashara when dancing in the group or have the groups changed since Meet the Team? 

She started out in group one but she ended up getting moved to kashara s group 

[DCC.Style.fan]

1 minute ago, Holly85 said:

She started out in group one but she ended up getting moved to kashara s group 

Gotcha hense the word WAS  lol

Lacey and Kasharas groups are my favorites!

[PrincessLeia]

41 minutes ago, LaurenBrook said:

unless kelli and amy have beat genetics i think they have to watch pretty closely, at least Kelli since she's in her 30s.  amy might have a few more years of metabolism in her favor.  

i'm sure they all watch though and jay wasn't wrong when he talked about eating for PERFORMANCE more than anything. even dcc alumni who are naturally thinner watched their diets and worked out with trainers several days a week.  the price we pay for our dreams :) 

Kelli is fit... guarantee she eats very clean 99% of the time. She used to post a ton of workout stuff. She takes her fitness seriously!

[MelissaMinion]

9 hours ago, Jess14 said:

I don’t think it’s necessarily bad standing alone, but it’s a clear violations of the rules that were given to her. Personally, I don’t see why an injured cheerleader wouldn’t be able to sit down near the sidelines or near the coaches, and I don’t quite get the workers comp argument. She can trip and hurt herself in the locker room as easily as she can walking around during the game. The drinking and whether that’s okvaries from job to job, but it seems clear that it’s not allowed for DCCs.

Ultimately. the DCCs have lots of rules that I don’t understand, but I didn’t sign a contract to follow them, like Erica did. The fact that she did this literally right after K&J had just disciplined 2 other vets probably also played a factor in the severity of the punishment. At best, they could’ve offered her the same punishment that Jenna/Holly got but no way could they let it pass, and since she was already not performing, a suspension would’ve been pretty worthless. 

Yes, the workman’s comp argument doesn’t make sense. Why take her along, if all she’d be allowed to do on game day is sit inside alone. And if she’s injured enough to need that kind of restriction (like no bumping into things and jarring your shoulder), why wouldn’t she be tagged as unfit to fly? 

Sitting inside away from the action feels like a big girl timeout to me. Especially because it happened after the Holly and Jenna things. 

[MyFavShows]

9 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

What Erica did at the HOF game was just the icing on the cake. She has a history of diva like behavior, laziness, and poor leadership. There are pages on this topic if you want to go back and read, I’m just not sure which thread!  

 

Erica was beloved on this board for years - it’s interesting how everyone turned on her after she was cut.  Many on here wanted her to get point last year and felt she was an all time great DCC - now she’s a lazy diva w/ poor leadership?

And people acting like what she did in Canton is some capital offense that negates her great seasons.   Maybe she was just fed up and was like “hell with this - I’m not sitting in this locker room by myself for 4+ hours like I’m a toddler in a time out (and was she in there as a punishment, or was it just cause she was injured?) - I’m going to go sit w/ my friends and have fun!”  I mean she’s on a pro cheerleading squad where she makes next to zero money - it’s not like she’s a surgeon who up and left mid operation.   She may have just been over all the mind games and demeaning treatment and didn’t care anymore - maybe what happened to Jenna and Holly had her angry too.

I guess I’m not as upset w/ her over what happened - she was still a gorgeous DCC and an amazing dancer.  Her Dirty Diana solo was on of the best DCC solos I’ve ever seen.

Edited August 21, 2018 by MyFavShows

[TinyHands]

Maddie is NOT CUTE. At all.

[lizzi6692]

36 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

Erica was beloved on this board for years - it’s interesting how everyone turned on her after she was cut.  Many on here wanted her to get point last year and felt she was an all time great DCC - now she’s a lazy diva w/ poor leadership?

And people acting like what she did in Canton is some capital offense that negates her great seasons.   Maybe she was just fed up and was like “hell with this - I’m not sitting in this locker room by myself for 4+ hours like I’m a toddler in a time out (and was she in there as a punishment, or was it just cause she was injured?) - I’m going to go sit w/ my friends and have fun!”  I mean she’s on a pro cheerleading squad where she makes next to zero money - it’s not like she’s a surgeon who up and left mid operation.   She may have just been over all the mind games and demeaning treatment and didn’t care anymore - maybe what happened to Jenna and Holly had her angry too.

I guess I’m not as upset w/ her over what happened - she was still a gorgeous DCC and an amazing dancer.  Her Dirty Diana solo was on of the best DCC solos I’ve ever seen.

Her being seen as a lazy diva is recent because it came from a new insider who started posting here(and since they’ve gotten everything else right that they’ve said, I see no reason to doubt them on this issue). 

 

And it’s not about being upset about her actions, it’s about not feeling sorry for her for getting fired for going against orders given to her by her boss. No matter how ridiculous she thought it was, her boss told her to do something and not only blatantly ignored it, she was dumb enough to send proof to her boss’ daughter which resulted in her release. 

[PixieDust]

Just my own personal opinion but my views on Erica changed ( I was Erica for point as well)  as a result of her behavior during the lawsuit. I agree the cheerleaders should absolutely get paid more. But she was promoting any media covering the lawsuit on her social media all the while still having tons of DCC pics including her profile pic. And seemingly lying about being cut from the team/ breaking the rules when discussing being a DCC. It came across spiteful, self serving, disingenuous, and immature.  This coupled with the recent posts about diva behavior from several insiders who seem credible put her in a bad light. Again just my opinion. 

[MyFavShows]

1 minute ago, lizzi6692 said:

Her being seen as a lazy diva is recent because it came from a new insider who started posting here(and since they’ve gotten everything else right that they’ve said, I see no reason to doubt them on this issue). 

 

And it’s not about being upset about her actions, it’s about not feeling sorry for her for getting fired for going against orders given to her by her boss. No matter how ridiculous she thought it was, her boss told her to do something and not only blatantly ignored it, she was dumb enough to send proof to her boss’ daughter which resulted in her release. 

Maybe she didn’t care that she was fired though?  Based on her lawsuit, she was clearly unhappy w/ how the DCC were treated and how their pay was so low - maybe them asking her to stay in the locker room for that game was the final straw.   And why exactly did they want her to stay in there?  It’s just a very strange demand IMO.  If they didn’t want her sitting on the sidelines in a uniform drawing attention to herself, then why not have her change?

Erica did a lot for the DCC brand while she was on the team - she was a stunning beauty w/ a great figure, and she was an amazing, captivating to watch dancer who actually danced instead of doing a million tricks.  She’d still make a MUCH better point dancer than anyone on today’s squad.

[Leia1021]

Tiny Hands -  I love how there is a type for everyone.  There are too many cookie-cutter hair styles and looks as it is.  It's difficult to tell them apart at a distance.  I think Maddie is cute as a button, as does my husband.  

[hereforthedrama]

6 hours ago, kicklinegal said:

Gina is a powerhouse dancer! She's so sharp and has so much punch with each move. 

 

I actually like Kash at point over Lacey (love them both!) although I feel like she isn't finishing her movements completely. 

Gina is such a good dancer! I wonder if her sister is as strong of a dancer as her and will try out for DCC. I would love to see that!

[PollyHowell]

5 hours ago, Gham said:

Top picture is 2017 bottom is 2014

 

...Am I missing something here? Because to me she looks genuinely amazing in both of these. She's a beautiful girl. And the curls seem to be unpopular around here but I love them; they really make her stand out.

[LisaWl7TR]

7 hours ago, Opine said:

I actually don't recall anyone saying Jaylyn wasn't pretty.  Many people (including me!) didn't like the maroon (violet) hair.  She's a beautiful girl.  I hesitate to even say this but I think the least HD ready look is the Hannah.  Of course, Brennan's issues have been discussed at length, but I will say I teared up when I saw her in the uniform.

...and I liked Jalyns hair. I knew they would change it though. 

[LisaWl7TR]

7 hours ago, hypeman said:

It sure was a mess. Her group was subpar last year. More girls got cut from her group than any other. Since the GL's teach and clean the routines, that's squarely on her. It appears that it wasn't just being new to leadership last year, because the issue persists.

It's funny that someone tried to blame Keyra for Heather getting booted from leadership. Keyra was in group 1.

The legend of Kashara continues to be more (edited) flash than substance.

 

Way, way back I asked what group Keyra was in last year.

Thinking...If she was in the same group as Heather and was given some bad advice from her then that might explain Heather's demotion.

No blaming.  Just a question. 

Edited August 21, 2018 by LisaWl7TR

[PrincessLeia]

6 hours ago, JohnGalt said:

I don’t think she’s saying Kelli isn’t fit. They both look great now, but neither Kelli nor Amy have genetics on their sides if you look at some of their family members. Of course it’s possible they didn’t inherit the slow metabolism that some people have later in life.

I wasn’t saying she was saying Kelli isn’t fit. I was agreeing with her that Kelli works hard for her body. 

[Kayce]

I know a lot of people don't agree, but i think Maddie is cute as a button.  She is bright, bubbly and is an awesome dancer.  I am always drawn to her, Khalyn and KaShara when they dance.  

[LadyMsJay]

12 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

I have to respectfully disagree.  Body wise, they want long and lean as a general rule because of the "unforgiving" uniform.  They cut girls all the time after cameos when they look boxy or their legs look too short in the uniform.  The only times I can remember when they've fought to keep someone with a shorter, stockier frame is when they're face is super pretty and super photogenic.  

I was generally speaking face wise, but I absolutely agree with the body.

12 hours ago, ByTor said:

Methinks @LadyMsJay is practicing her DCC interview questions.  Charlotte would love that answer :)

HAHAHA!! Not quite. That's generally what I think about when I hear "DCC look"

11 hours ago, 5678Pixie said:

Cianna has always struggled with her weight.  She got it off this year to try out for DCC (but maybe she didn't after seeing this pix).  I don't understand why they take girls that have to watch every bite they take.  You know she is going to put it back on eventually.  Since they only want the thin girls why bother taking a chance on a girl that they know is going to struggle and perhaps have to be cut the next year?  I have seen  Blazer dancer pix of her with her hair straight and I think she looks much better with straight hair.  

I hate when girls do that. They go into TC "at their leanest" which alot of the time isn't a reasonable weight to maintain for them, then get called in time after time into the office to discuss the weight "issue"..which is just them actually getting back to their normal weight. Looking at Tara's photos before she was a DCC, she was a bit "dcc soft" but was TINY when she made the team. She must have fallen into that category of girls.

10 hours ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Ah well I remembered at least one person saying towards the beginning of training camp that she wasn't cute and would be cut for that reason. After looking at a couple pics myself, I thought they were crazy. Hah, she's definitely not ugly, but I understand about her hair color. I agree about Hannah after seeing what's been featured, but I still like her. 

I think that was me being catty smh. As a matter of fact, it does sound like something I would say, so I'll take ownership of that. I honestly had never seen her dance and was just judging her on her appearance. I knew they would change her hair up, but she has turned out to be better than I thought. *slaps hand*

8 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Erica was beloved on this board for years - it’s interesting how everyone turned on her after she was cut.  Many on here wanted her to get point last year and felt she was an all time great DCC - now she’s a lazy diva w/ poor leadership?

Exactly. Surprised me too.

7 hours ago, TinyHands said:

Maddie is NOT CUTE. At all.

Madelyn is "awww" cute. Like a puppy or a toddler. 

[Holly85]

46 minutes ago, Kayce said:

I know a lot of people don't agree, but i think Maddie is cute as a button.  She is bright, bubbly and is an awesome dancer.  I am always drawn to her, Khalyn and KaShara when they dance.  

I like Maddie to !! 

[MrsEVH]

Maddie is cute. That picture (above) just is not flattering one IMO.

[ClosetDCCFan]

15 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

Maddie is cute. That picture (above) just is not flattering one IMO.

She's not particularly photogenic but I think she's cute, bubbly, seemingly very sweet and genuine, and she's fun to watch dance.  Some of these other girls might be more classic beauties but they blend and become boring (both in looks and personality).  I wouldn't want an entire squad of that.  

 

I will add, that picture is not the most flattering of her hair.  I'm all for her letting it go natural (I have naturally thick curly hair too, and I can't imagine what it would be like after a 4 hour game if I tried to keep it straight?!), but it's too tight to her head or something.  I think Cianna's curls look much more fluid and fun.  

Edited August 21, 2018 by ClosetDCCFan
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[Jess14]

8 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Erica was beloved on this board for years - it’s interesting how everyone turned on her after she was cut.  Many on here wanted her to get point last year and felt she was an all time great DCC - now she’s a lazy diva w/ poor leadership?

And people acting like what she did in Canton is some capital offense that negates her great seasons.   Maybe she was just fed up and was like “hell with this - I’m not sitting in this locker room by myself for 4+ hours like I’m a toddler in a time out (and was she in there as a punishment, or was it just cause she was injured?) - I’m going to go sit w/ my friends and have fun!”  I mean she’s on a pro cheerleading squad where she makes next to zero money - it’s not like she’s a surgeon who up and left mid operation.   She may have just been over all the mind games and demeaning treatment and didn’t care anymore - maybe what happened to Jenna and Holly had her angry too.

I guess I’m not as upset w/ her over what happened - she was still a gorgeous DCC and an amazing dancer.  Her Dirty Diana solo was on of the best DCC solos I’ve ever seen.

I feel a lot of the Erica hate (which people are certainly entitled to like or dislike whoever they want) really seemed to take off after the lawsuit. That’s when suddenly a bunch of former DCCs started talking about her being cut, and the tide turned here. I think some saw it as a betrayal from a bitter girl. Add in that she’s also friends with Jenna and Cersten (both lightening rods on here) and there you have it. Personally I think she’s bitter (not unusual) and nothing suggests to me that her cut was unwarranted, but I don’t have an issue with the lawsuit at all, primarily the FLSA claim. I don’t handle wage and hour claims (i primarily handle EEOC based claims), but the dual hourly/non hourly DCC system described seemed strange and also a very easy way to run afoul of FLSA rules, even if unintentionally. Most smart companies have clear/rigid wage/hour/overtime rules for a reason.  If there were violations there (which again, not saying there definitely were), then I don’t care how many years she danced and loved it or how bitter she is, the suit was legit. I won’t criticize her for that all. 

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I still like Erica. She’s human. I could see her attitude back in her first season when she was fresh about her hair after the make over - “how do you like my hair now?”

She would have been better to just not attend the weekend but I bet there were other parties and celebrations she got to attend. They showed one party on the amazon series about the cowboys - and Justin Timberlake performed.

i can see that staying locked in the locker room (even though they weren’t going to have one) was a poor choice to give her with a hugely important game for the team happening just outside. There should have been somewhere she could watch and wait in her warmup clothes.  Just bad calls all around.

16 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

Maddie is cute. That picture (above) just is not flattering one IMO.

She looks better than when Neil basically called her “butterface” on tv her first season. But she’s like a 5 at best in her face.

My personal view is that the front triangle needs beautiful performers, the plainer girls can be further back. Maybe they are giving up on beauty and going for who they think are the most entertaining? That’s a fair choice if that’s what they want.

[Gham]

6 hours ago, PollyHowell said:

 

...Am I missing something here? Because to me she looks genuinely amazing in both of these. She's a beautiful girl. And the curls seem to be unpopular around here but I love them; they really make her stand out.

I feel the same way! She’s always looked tiny to me that’s why I was curious where pixie had heard that she struggled with her weight! 

[Shan18]

44 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

I feel a lot of the Erica hate (which people are certainly entitled to like or dislike whoever they want) really seemed to take off after the lawsuit. That’s when suddenly a bunch of former DCCs started talking about her being cut, and the tide turned here. I think some saw it as a betrayal from a bitter girl. Add in that she’s also friends with Jenna and Cersten (both lightening rods on here) and there you have it. Personally I think she’s bitter (not unusual) and nothing suggests to me that her cut was unwarranted, but I don’t have an issue with the lawsuit at all, primarily the FLSA claim. I don’t handle wage and hour claims (i primarily handle EEOC based claims), but the dual hourly/non hourly DCC system described seemed strange and also a very easy way to run afoul of FLSA rules, even if unintentionally. Most smart companies have clear/rigid wage/hour/overtime rules for a reason.  If there were violations there (which again, not saying there definitely were), then I don’t care how many years she danced and loved it or how bitter she is, the suit was legit. I won’t criticize her for that all. 

Completely agree. If her claims are deemed correct then change is needed. Also this whole “you should be grateful for being on this team, it’s a privelage” mentality really pisses me off. No one says that to the football players. Or any other job for that matter. If she’s lying let the system do their job and figure it out. It just seems like people were quick to discredit her as a bitter fired cheerleader before looking at the case. 

[EricaShadows]

21 hours ago, jlc said:

I am not sure where or how you get the feeling Christina got the impression she would be ROTY? I am so NOT a fan of hers, and I don't follow her on social media, so is that where that entitled vibe comes from? I need to start paying attention, although I don't think I need any more reasons to dislike her. Lol

I kept getting that feeling from not only when she was featured on the show last year, but also from when she was in Training Camp season 9 and from her social media.  It seemed that she thought she was entitled to be on the squad because she had been trying to so many years and made it to Training Camp at least one time before.  There's just something that's not entirely genuine about her.

20 hours ago, DazedAndConfused said:

My daughter competed last year in the DCC cheer competition and got to meet them.  We watch the show religiously so she was super pumped to meet the ladies.  She said Jinelle and Lauren were 2 who really showed interest in the competitive cheerleaders and actually talked to her, asked questions, and wished her good luch.  My daughter said Christina was quite stand offish and almost rude. And my daughter was rooting for her all along. 

I could see both Jinelle and Lauren as sweet, caring, nurturing people who excel at appearances.  Even if Christina's hearing issues cause her problems at appearances (i.e. being consider rude, diva-ish, etc.), then she should either compensate for it better (and get better at acting as well) or leave the team.  She went in knowing she has a hearing issue and that appearances and performances are part of the deal and if she can't handle that much noise (is too shy to ask people to repeat themselves or doesn't want to appear "different" among other things), tough.  I can see this happening and her blaming her hearing issues for any comments that come up.

17 hours ago, GBPackersfan said:

I've heard the same things from a LOT of different and unrelated/unconnected people about Christina. Waitress friend in DFW area said she occasionally gets some DCC in and they are always so nice and friendly, Christina was a hard-core nasty bitch in the 3 times she waited on her. Cousin's kids went to a DCC camp (I'm fairly certain that's what they were) and said Christina was bored, disinterested, and basically ignored the kids where as KaShara, Lauren, Jinelle, and Amy were kind, funny, encouraging, and made an effort to get to know the kids. The impression Christina gives off is "entitled", which is funny as that is exactly the vibe I got from her last season. 

I also got the idea/feeling that Christina is entitled, especially now that she made the team.  It almost seems like she only makes the effort when it's adults/important people (or the cameras/media are there) and that working with kids is not worth her time.  If this story is true, it would be the second time (at least) that Christina seemed dismissive of the kids and giving off the impression that they aren't worth her time or effort.

17 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

Interesting because I remember listening to Christina on a podcast, and I felt like I could relate to her. She seemed down to earth, and someone I could meet and have a nice conversation with.

I could certainly see Christina putting her best self forward with the talk show/podcast because it's a "media" event and thus something she should be on her best behavior for.  She wants to impress the people that matter: the donors, sponsors, Charlotte, Kelli, Judy and Jerry.  Everyone else isn't important.  That's just the feeling I get sometimes.

19 hours ago, kalibean said:

Everyone's mileage will vary on legacy status, of course, but the way I see it...

Being a legacy might help you get noticed or past a first hurdle, but you'll still have to prove yourself once you're in the door.  It was that way during sorority rush, too.  We might have given a pass first day and almost always would keep a legacy that made it to pref night, but if she wasn't fitting in on day two or three she'd be cut.  Being Jerry Jones' daughter might have gotten Charlotte through some doors, but she's always seemed extremely savvy to me and likely kicks ass at her job.  I like that her daughter also appears to be carving her own path, perhaps before she comes back into the family fold.  Families who are wealthy because of their businesses don't usually maintain their wealth by only hiring slackers.  I don't personally care for Jerry Jones, but I don't think he'd keep Charlotte in position if she wasn't earning her keep.

I feel the same about Cassie, VK, Dayton, etc...they might get a little bit of a pass on early stages, but they wouldn't end up in camp (or in Cassie's case) on the squad for five years if they tripped over their own feet constantly or had nothing to offer.  Cassie's audtion looked rough her rookie year, but she had her tumbling and a desire to learn.  She had potential and heaven knows we've seen potential in camp and on the squad just about every year that didn't necessarily "deserve" it in our eyes.

I get being a legacy can give you a leg up over the competition at the initial stages, but it certainly helped Cassie and Victoria because, at their first auditions/Training Camp, if they'd been anyone else with all the issues, they certainly wouldn't have made it to Training Camp in my opinion.  If her last name hadn't been Trammell (and a legacy), I think Cassie would have been cut at her first auditions because of her looks and her dance mistakes.  Same with Victoria.  If Victoria hadn't been the daughter of Kelli's best friend (and a legacy), she would have been cut at semis because of her dance mistakes and weight (and her looks).  Yet they got passed on.  I still maintain that Kelli should have recused herself with Victoria (and maybe Dayton), but didn't with Victoria because she knew that the girl wouldn't even make Finals if she didn't essentially override the other judges (with help from Charlotte).  Just my opinion.  Dayton would have made Training Camp regardless because it seemed the other judges liked her.