Little Women: LA - General Discussion

[4leafclover]

They are all more attractive without the too dark or too light hair coloring and hair extensions.  Elena looks beautiful with the shorter bob she is now wearing (although she still wears those stupid extensions) and Terra looks better with a more natural hairstyle.  Terra does absolutely nothing to hide her figure flaws with her choice of clothing.  As for shoes, they all need a lesson on footwear!  lol

[bichonblitz]

6 minutes ago, 4leafclover said:

They are all more attractive without the too dark or too light hair coloring and hair extensions.  Elena looks beautiful with the shorter bob

I don't think Elena is beautiful any more due to all the work she has had done. Nose job, lips plumped, and had her ass made bigger. I won't even try to understand what is real and what isn't with her hair. She probably even has extensions in that bob. She's all fake. Hell, give me the money to do all that and I will be beautiful, too! 

[Sugarbaker]

On 7/7/2017 at 1:57 PM, Adeejay said:

I believe Terra is using her hatred for Christy as her storyline, in order to keep the focus off of her personal life.  She also wants the focus to be on Matt and Briana, this way no one will notice that her kids don’t seem to be thriving, and that her husband is constantly inebriated.  

 

On 7/9/2017 at 9:49 PM, Mosspack1970 said:

Joe has never been attractive, even if he was his personality would have ruined it. But at least he was clean. Now he looks greasy and like he smells like whiskey and dirty sweat socks. 

The only ones on this train wreck I keep watching for some reason I feel for is Terra's kids. The older the other children get it is getting very noticeable neither her nor Joe work with Penny. There is no shame in having a special needs child if (big if) that is the case.  

I have been wondering why we never saw much if any of Terra's home life with the kids & Joe. It was always Terra out doing/going/screaming/arguing..but never any cute moments with either of the babies, just Terra screaming at Joe &  her crying over the cancer scare.

[Tosia]

Yeah, goid point, sugarbaker, about not seeing much of Terror's home life. 

She's getting ALOT of criticism from the other ladies lately,  which I think can be traced back to Jasmine--who seems to be very nice and normal,  with a great family and parents.  Jas seems to want to do some fun stuff and not fight so much which is a good thing. 

I bet Terror comes up worth another sob story to elicit sympathy and hold off on being confronted for her mean bullying of Christy. But then Terror is NEVER logical or at fault, so a truce will never happen,  and Terror will go on screaming about being ALMOST  put in jail and away from her dear family. Ohhhh, the injustice!!!!!

[Irate Panda]

Lifetime needs to hire Kevin Frazier for all their reunions, glad he knocked Joes drunken lil ass back into the audience and glad Elena went in hard on Terra and did Matt basically admit AGAIN he was asking for sex from other people. Trifling.

Edited July 16, 2017 by Irate Panda

[bluvelvet]

Just saw the reunion, so first and foremost...*drumroll*

YAAAS Elena!.. the Russian in her was on fire tonight, she was spitting truths all over the place..she is just over it!

Kevin Frazier is AWESOME as a host..'

Finally...*shakes head*..Brianna, I can't even....just wow! Tanya is so over hearing about that toxic relationship ..

[clb89]

26 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Lifetime needs to hire Kevin Frazier for all their reunions, glad he knocked Joes drunken lil ass back into the audience and glad Elena went in hard on Terra and did Matt basically admit AGAIN he was asking for sex from other people. Trifling.

Yup Kevin is great as a host, much better then Terra did on the other little women series. Yeah I noticed Matt basically admitting to asking for Tiffany (I believe her name is) to have sex with him because he wants a "real woman." At least he certainly didn't deny it that is what text meant when Kevin asked for clarification.  It's sad because Tiffany was basically one of Brianna's last friends, and she completely threw her under the bus for Matt. Not to mention Matt yet again tried to go the route of blame Brianna for his infidelity, Kevin was good at pointing that out right away too.  Tonya was making me laugh with the whole "She loves everything about him" towards Brianana. 

I'm not sure I can watch the couples retreat thing they keep advertising. I really can't take more of Matt and Brianna. I mean I even skipped their special of their wedding. 

Edited July 13, 2017 by clb89

[Tosia]

Yep, Bluevelvet, I agree. Kevin is the best man for confronting logically this band of crazies.  

Terror ad Christy?    Ho hum. Move on. Terror says she doesn't want to hate, but it's all she's got,  until Matt cheats again, or Bri tries out/fails at another low-rent "talent",  or someone gets preggers again, or there is a medical crisis.  Maybe Joe will go to rehab and Terror will have to watch the kids by herself. Oh, the lack of adoring fans and non-glam outfits! It will break her spirit. 

Elena was great too.   Tonya was good abt pointing fingers at Brianna to wake up or just admit that's she is staying with Douchematt and doesn't care what he does.  Jas needs to butt out; Bri is a lost cause.  

The way Brianna was dressed, I'm thinking prime fetish entertainment services is the next talent. 

[bluvelvet]

You know what I also realized, Matt doesn't care about Brianna, he's literally in this for the exposure. That was very evident on his face last night. In the beginning he pretended a bit,but now that he knows she isn't going anywhere he's sitting pretty. Once this show has run its course he's leaving her and getting alimony. 

 

I think Brianna is staying because she one she doesn't want another failed marriage and two they have a child. Also she really has no support as she has alienated all of them. She threw away a long time friend over stuff her husband did. However Elena made a very good point in telling her that her kids WILL see this behavior. 

[renatae]

8 hours ago, clb89 said:

Yup Kevin is great as a host, much better then Terra did on the other little women series. Yeah I noticed Matt basically admitting to asking for Tiffany (I believe her name is) to have sex with him because he wants a "real woman." At least he certainly didn't deny it that is what text meant when Kevin asked for clarification.  It's sad because Tiffany was basically one of Brianna's last friends, and she completely threw her under the bus for Matt. Not to mention Matt yet again tried to go the route of blame Brianna for his infidelity, Kevin was good at pointing that out right away too.  Tonya was making me laugh with the whole "She loves everything about him" towards Brianana. 

I'm not sure I can watch the couples retreat thing they keep advertising. I really can't take more of Matt and Brianna. I mean I even skipped their special of their wedding. 

Ditto. I don't even understand what irrational Briana has against Tiffany. In what way did she think Tiffany betrayed her? All I saw was stupid Matt texting her about sex,  then Tiffany letting Briana know. Briana just continues her illogical backing of disgusting Matt no matter what.  And he has become even worse with his self justification, to the point he seems to think there is nothing he needs to regret about his behavior. Skeeve.

[DanaMB]

13 minutes ago, renatae said:

... to the point he seems to think there is nothing he needs to regret about his behavior. Skeeve.

You're right.

He doesn't need to regret it when Brianna constantly forgives him and takes him back. He knows he can do whatever the fuck he wants, Brianna will yell at him a bit then she takes blame and forgives him. Why would he stop doing whatever he wants when there are not lasting consequences?

[bichonblitz]

What in the eff is wrong with Joe and what in the eff was that little doll thingy he was holding? He was stoned/drunk out of his mind.  He should have been escorted off the stage. Maybe he was shown the door off camera. Oh, and I noticed he walked over to the couch without any crutches with no problem.  Not even a limp.  

I wonder if Christy will ever get her voice back.  I'm kind of feeling sorry for her. That surgery must have been brutal.  If she can barely talk she needs to be off the show.  I don't need to hear her whisper fighting with Terra, it's rediculous.  

Tonya is 100% right about Brianna loving the shit out of Matt. That's the bottom line and it's never going to change and Matt knows it.  More power to ya, Matt. You finally found a sucker with a nice paycheck, hold on tight and keep doing your own thing at the same time. Seems to be working just fine for him. 

[mythoughtis]

Once the show ends, Briana will have no income to get alimony on. 

[walnutqueen]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

What in the eff is wrong with Joe and what in the eff was that little doll thingy he was holding? He was stoned/drunk out of his mind.

He was holding a "Juicy" talking bobble-head doll (from Little Women Atlanta).

Kevin was awesome - especially when he told Joe to put away his toy.  He's just not having anyone's BS, and I love him for it.  Keep holding those feet to the fire, Kev!

Autumn looked quite pretty.

[Adeejay]

Elena came prepared for Terra.  She sees exactly what viewers are seeing.  She was right on point when she said that the only reason Terra gets the jobs that she does, is because she is a little person.  Hypocrite!  Glad Kevin got her and her lying, drunken, immature husband together. They did not protest at the premiere of “Midgets vs. Mascots”.  As a matter of fact, a beaming Terra is front and center in all the cast photos. 

Seeing Briana in a thong made me gag, given what we now know about her personal hygiene.  Tonya was right. Matt can do whatever he wants, without consequence; which is why he clearly doesn’t give a hoot anymore and has stop pretending. 

I noticed that Todd’s shirt was too big for him.  Atta boy!  Autumn is such a cutie pie! 

[Maharincess]

Is Briana's friend named Tiffany? I thought it was Lisa. 

[PreciousGem]

I loved loved how Kevin handled Joe.  He really should be permanently the host for these reunions.  He doesn't take anyone's bs and he calls people out on their bs.  Joe needs to shut the hell up.  He's gettin just as annoying as Terra.  Terra is constantly saying she is tired of fighting with Christy but is ALWAYS starting crap with her.  I'm glad Kevin called her petty.  You can tell Elena is so tired of all Terra's bs.  Tonya was funny saying Briana loves Matt's dirty underwear .  It was also funny when she said Matt could have sex with another woman on their bed and Briana would still never leave him.  I have been saying this for a long time.  I wonder if she read my comments I posted saying this exact same thing.  Lol.  

[clb89]

7 hours ago, Maharincess said:

Is Briana's friend named Tiffany? I thought it was Lisa. 

It could be Lisa, I'm terrible with names. 

[Zanne]

I lose respect for Terra every time she opens her mouth. Nothing but vitriol spills out. I used to like her, but she's become so damn negative that it's painful to watch. I think both Terra and Brianna need to go to make this show palatable. They are the two that are the loci of most of the trouble, which probably means they'll be on this show forever.

[Mosspack1970]

Terra and Brianna are in no way "fierce". Terra is whiny and hateful, Brianna is whiny and pathetic. 

Elena is refreshing, finally somebody not kissing Terra's huge butt. But please stop with the extensions and buy a bra. 

Tonya I am tired of hearing about Matt too. Even more than hearing about your active wear and that is saying something.

Jasmine needs to stop trying to save Brianna. Go bra shopping with Elena.

Christy should leave this mess. Terra is obsessed with her and will never stop with the "tried to put me in jail" rant. 

Joe is still obnoxious. The staying drunk more often than not is new. 

Matt is still a creeper

And finally showing up for a movie premier and smiling, posing for pics is not "protesting". Staying home would be. We all know they knew that movie was going to get brought up and came up with this excuse after the fact. 

[Calm81]

15 hours ago, Maharincess said:

Is Briana's friend named Tiffany? I thought it was Lisa. 

It is lisa. I'm wondering if some of the viewers are mixing this Matt with the Matt on Teen Mom OG who was sexting a Tiffany. LOL.

[Calm81]

Christy was ENJOYING having everyone yelling at Terror for a change. Usually it's Christy being ganged up on. Karma Terror, karma.

You didn't have to upload Christy's video to your large following on social media because it caused you great pain and sadness, your large Akon booty did it to humiliate Christy for revenge you spiteful b'yatch.

Matt is really good at getting Briana to hate her friends. Lisa tells Briana what's going on and it's LISA that she's mad at? She confronts Matt and Matt was able to get Briana angry at Lisa for going to Elena and Jasmine first? He's extraordinary at deflecting. Way to go Matt!!!

I love Elena and how she was on fire but I didn't like her yelling at Jasmine. I just don't think Jasmine needs to be told who she can be friends with and I think Elena was a little jealous at how Jasmine picks new favorite friends each week, even more so because she made Jasmine her babies godmother.

Autumn looked adorable with her hair like that. She's turning into a beautiful young woman, Christy did a fine job raising her, she won't be the type to let a man walk all over her erm Briana.

Joe, you obnoxious drunk/druggie, you need to leave funny alone because it doesn't work for you - the bobble head doll? Really?? Take several seats down. 

Elena must be pissed that all the ladies had instant SnapBack after having babies, I thought she'd be the one to lose the weight super fast because she's really into her appearance.

Let me say, I'm not body shaming her at all and she can take as long as she wants to lose weight (especially after twins) as she looks beautiful...I'm just pointing out the fact she's always getting surgery, body enhances etc., and it's Terror, Briana, and Jasmine that walked out of the delivery room looking pre-pregnancy. Terror had DWTS rehearsals to contribute to her SnapBack, though.

Edited July 14, 2017 by Calm81
Had to add how obnoxious Joe was ?

[bichonblitz]

7 hours ago, Zanne said:

I lose respect for Terra every time she opens her mouth.

I've lost respect for Terra because she stays with Joe, the drunk. 

[Maharincess]

12 hours ago, Mosspack1970 said:

Terra and Brianna are in no way "fierce". Terra is whiny and hateful, Brianna is whiny and pathetic. 

Elena is refreshing, finally somebody not kissing Terra's huge butt. But please stop with the extensions and buy a bra. 

Tonya I am tired of hearing about Matt too. Even more than hearing about your active wear and that is saying something.

Jasmine needs to stop trying to save Brianna. Go bra shopping with Elena.

Christy should leave this mess. Terra is obsessed with her and will never stop with the "tried to put me in jail" rant. 

Joe is still obnoxious. The staying drunk more often than not is new. 

Matt is still a creeper

And finally showing up for a movie premier and smiling, posing for pics is not "protesting". Staying home would be. We all know they knew that movie was going to get brought up and came up with this excuse after the fact. 

From what I remember, Terra didn't even say they were protesting until Joe brought it up (yelled it from the sidelines).  So I agree they're both full of shit. I've never seen a protest where people smile and take photos at the event/people they're protesting.  

[kassa]

On 7/14/2017 at 8:15 AM, Calm81 said:

 

Matt is really good at getting Briana to hate her friends. Lisa tells Briana what's going on and it's LISA that she's mad at? She confronts Matt and Matt was able to get Briana angry at Lisa for going to Elena and Jasmine first? He's extraordinary at deflecting. Way to go Matt!!!

 

We watched him do it in real time on camera a couple of seasons ago.  I think she brought up her family's objections to him and Matt instantly launched into  "of course they don't like me. Have they ever approved of anything you do? No, they constantly tell you how worthless you are, how any decision you make is going to be wrong, because they never trusted you and never supported you and never wanted you to be happy, etc. etc." and within a minute she's nodding and saying "Yeah!  They never supported me! They don't think I know my own mind! I'm just a fierce badass going my own way and if they don't like it they can lump it!" 

Now he does it with "these aren't your friends, they don't respect you, they don't wish you well, etc. etc."

[Tosia]

Typical abuser behavior to make the abuseee not trust friends or family, keep them away from, or isolate friends/ fami ly, and fuck with their heads with love and emo/  verbal/phys abuse, and  then begging forgiveness.  Classic. Tragic. 

Notice how Douchematt in therapy,  kept saying the other women came on to him?  Everybody else's fault. Now it's especially  Bri-not-fierce's fault because of the big fights. Classic to make the victim feel that it's their own fault.  Heinous. 

Get this abuser off my tv. 

[Tosia]

Well, that reunion was a shit show. 

Go Elena!

Brianna's shaved hair on one side is an old style--like at least 4 years. I apologize, but dayummmmm, her face looks prehistoric, probably cuz of the Cro-magnon overhanging forehead and jutting jaw. That hairdo does nothing to help.  

Don't care anymore about her and Douchematt's "open"marriage, heh heh.  Admit it, Bri, that's what you got. Douchematt practically ran after Stefania off stage. I bet Bri was wondering what he was doing backstage during the rest of the segment. Heh. Heh. 

Seriously, no one told Bri about her body funk before this year?  Laundering your clothes helps.  

Mary was a waste of a plane ticket.  Her face is also very bony, and she's a terrible actress working those crocodile tears.

Can Terror not yell when proclaiming her desire to be friends, I mean, move forward, with everyone? She's so sincere.  Bullying and insulting, and then demanding they be friends. 

Still FLOVE Kevin so much for bringing the sanity. 

[mittsigirl]

On 06/07/2017 at 11:02 AM, bichonblitz said:

That was some serious damage control! Just shut up, Terra. Your behavior is getting you negative reactions so now you are all about being the perfect wife and mama. BS!! The almighty dollar and fame come first for you and Joe is putting up with your nasty ass because he likes the money, too. 

I guess the name Grayson is out the window because Terra is constantly calling him by that other hideous name D'artagnon (I know I'm spelling it wrong). Anybody else notice that? Twice last night she called him that.  What Terra wants, Terra gets.  Who gives a shit that Joe didn't like or want that name for his son.  

Yeah, and people over at the Teen Mom site, think that Chelsea naming her son Watson is so bad!!

[mittsigirl]

On 14/07/2017 at 6:01 AM, Calm81 said:

It is lisa. I'm wondering if some of the viewers are mixing this Matt with the Matt on Teen Mom OG who was sexting a Tiffany. LOL.

Yes, wrong skumbag!

[renatae]

I love Kevin not letting any of these people get away with their BS - first that skank Stefania, when she tried to say she didn't mean to cause any trouble, then Terra when she claimed she was not gutting Bri by going for her throat with the B.O. mess. Not that it makes Matt any less of a cur, but Stefania really takes the cake with her attitude, and not only for joining in on the blame Briana game, but for having both a boyfriend and a husband and only caring about what the boyfriend thinks puts her in a lowlife class of her own. She and Matt deserve each other; they are both masters of self-justification.

Cheers for Terra getting a dose of her own medicine from Elena, who is over her. Don't want to forgive Christy for what you did? How do you feel having the shoe on the other foot? Loved Elena's statement; "It's not what you did, Terra, it's who you are!" That said it all.

After Briana's treatment of Christy and refusal to be friends with her, Christy is showing she is the better person by not reveling in all the problems Briana is having with Matt; no "I told you so" and no gloating. She looks as though she is sorry about what Briana is going through. Too bad Briana cast that friendship aside, along with poor Lisa, who did absolutely nothing to deserve what Bri did to her. It's going to be a lonely life with only that scumbag to "support" her.

[Calm81]

Interesting part two.

How dare that chic, Stephanie? to blame Bri for her hubby cheating after only hearing Matts side. Clearly a woman is going to be texting her husband a thousand times if he's been spotted with another woman. 

I'm not putting the blame on the other woman like many people like to do as it's Matt's fault for letting someone come inside his marriage (no pun intended that was on accident and I left it there) but to go ahead and bring a man that you know is married back to your home is just trifling.

And who in their right mind would feel safe bringing a man they JUST met into their home? He could have been a serial killer. "I brought him back to my place and he kissed me even though I felt uncomfortable." Why didn't you stop him if you're uncomfortable? And why bring him home if you just wanted to talk?

Terror is getting karma. Elena is fed up with Terror and not holding back punches. Terror is missing the point that Elena made. Elena was basically saying, "even if we make up I still don't want to be friends with you because of the way you treat OTHER people". It's at the point where she doesn't care how Terror treats her she just doesn't like how she is as a person.

I certainly don't want to be friends with someone in their 30s that thinks it's okay to tell people about someone else's body odor (I know tonya started it but terror passed the news on to everyone) or that posts embarrassing videos to their social media that has an impressive following.

Or someone that throws a glass at someone's head and doesn't expect to be punished for it and when charges get dropped cry the story "you tried to take me from my family" spiel in every fight. 

Or uses a minor breast cancer diagnosis as a reason to get out of owning up to problems she's caused. Many women are truly suffering with breast cancer and she used her doctors minor findings as a reason to get sympathy from people and that makes me sad.

Elena has zero fucks to give whether Terror is executive producer or not. Get your alligator tears out of my face. I loved the look of joy on Christy's face when everyone was calling Terror out on her BS. Christy deserves that after the rough couple of seasons she's had.

I did side with Terror a little about the DWTS. Why is it okay for a father to fulfill all of his dreams when babies come into the picture and be known as a wonderful provider but if a mother does it she's neglecting her children? Her kids were with their father, Joe, and attentive nannies, no difference than working mothers taking kids to daycare or men leaving their kids with the mom. 

Joe wasn't working at the time so he was a stay at home dad while Terror was out making some very good money to support her family. Elena WAS just jealous and using the neglecting babies as an excuse. Elena was upset that Terror was getting these roles and got her SnapBack quick. I love you Elena, you're beautiful and you put people in their place and I hate defending Terror, but you had the case of the green eyed monster on that one aspect. Other than that, team Elena.

I still think the only non-fake one is Jasmine. I'd totally love to have her as a friend. She really does genuinely care for the people she keeps in her company and I truly respect her.

Tonya is annoying as always. Her dramatic pauses after each question about the wedding was so annoying and fake. Why go ring shopping and bring up marriage over and over again to just be so blasé about it at the reunion? To spark interest for the next season filled with "are they going to get married or aren't they?" Because I don't care. 

Kerwin, you can save it with the "I'm southern" crap about cooking for your lady. If you don't work and have nothing to bring to the table (still confused on how you bought that engagement ring (probably tonya paid)) you can at least cook the meals. None of this "men don't belong in the kitchen" BS from the 1950s. If Tonya is bringing home the bacon, you are capable of throwing it on the frying pan to make some BLTs. 

 

ETA: I really didn't mean to type up a novel...I just realized how much I typed. And I'm still typing...?

Edited July 20, 2017 by Calm81
Autocorrect put soybeans in place of southern for my Kerwin comment, lol.

[Destiny74]

4 hours ago, Calm81 said:

 

I did side with Terror a little about the DWTS. Why is it okay for a father to fulfill all of his dreams when babies come into the picture and be known as a wonderful provider but if a mother does it she's neglecting her children? Her kids were with their father, Joe, and attentive nannies, no difference than working mothers taking kids to daycare or men leaving their kids with the mom. 

ETA: I really didn't mean to type up a novel...I just realized how much I typed. And I'm still typing...?

I agree that breadwinning Moms should not feel guilty.  However, Terra nagged Joe (or at least that is how THEY portrayed it) into having a second baby as soon as she healed from having Penelope.  She said she wanted, like, five kids.  Great.  But why pop them out with a partner who didn't want them yet, and then go straight into DWTS?  Not to mention her doctor having issues with her doing such strenuous activity right after a C-section.  I think she should have asked to delay DWTS for one season.  She still would have been the first little person on the show.  That's my issue with her DWTS...not that she was earning money that the family needed, but that SHE insisted on having another baby right away and then ran off for two months almost as soon as the cord was cut.

And about you writing so much... LOL.  I do the same thing.  I have no idea how much I have written until I post and then I am apologetic because I took up so much space.  ?

Edited July 20, 2017 by Destiny74

[Mosspack1970]

Go Elena! "It's not what you did Terra it's who you are" was worth sitting through the reunion. While I do think there is some jealousy on Elena's part concerning DWTS, I also think it was that Grayson was only a couple of weeks old and Terra seems to ignore her children on a regular basis. 

Tonya looks so stupid to keep bringing up marriage and acting all twitchy now. I guess she needs a new storyline since the failed active wear line stored in the garage has been done. I wish she would have stayed with Jae. Now she's got some old guy who expects her to earn a paycheck and wait on him like it's the 50's.  

Funny how Terra yelled at everybody but she said nothing about the clip showing Tonya dissing her parenting during the whole godparent mess. 

I wonder how many times Brianna is going to declare she and Matt have a lot to work on/talk about. Even though they both deny anything more than kissing I still believe Matt had sex with the skank. 

[Chewy101]

Elena comes from a childhood where they strapped her to a board and attempted to stretch her out because she was little. So Tera saying Elena doesn't know how hard it was to be bullied as a child made me laugh. And as long as these women keep calling one another "Heifers, bitches and ho's," none of them has a right to talk about appropriate wording. The words "fierce" and "midget" could be a drinking game.

And they all look ridiculously over-dressed for sitting on the couch. Can't these people just wear jeans for once? They look like clowns.

Briana seems to have zero capability to follow things through, except where should give up and quit, which is her relationship with Matt. Her obsession with finding fame is so gross. I'm pretty sure she already lost one of her kids, I hope the other one is ok. 

Elena is so over these people. I love how objective she is being with all of them. Nothing personal, she agrees and disagrees, no matter who is talking or how she personally feels about them. I love that. Without her, this season would be so much worse.

Why can't Tera have a job? Just because she has kids? Dancing with the Stars might be the biggest loser job you can do in this industry, but it pays the bills. And it's temporary, no matter how well you do. I don't get the criticism when no one would think twice about a man doing it. Pay those bills, Tera. I approve.

I don't think Kerwin is a nice guy. Not sure what Tonya's obsession with him is, other than she is tired of dating.

Love the host. He is very diplomatic with them. He doesn't take crap but he isn't trying to stir everything up either. 

I don't see why any of these jerks get a vacation in Paradise, just because they can't make their relationships work. But I'm the bigger jerk, because of course I will be watching, lol.

[Madding crowd]

I don't have a problem with Terra being on DWTS. Any of these women would do it if asked. Someone posted that Terra should have passed and waited until next year; these invitations are not repeated. All of the women have nannies, how else are they going on all these girl trips? I also do not believe Terra is neglecting Penny. Terra mentioned Penny had an MRI and it clear she is under a doctor's care. If Terra talked about Penny's medical issues all the time she would be criticized for that.

I still think Terra is an awful person but I hate women being criticized for working when men never are. I can't stand Brianna: if someone writes a book she whines that she wanted to do it, if someone gets invited to do anything, boo hoo she wanted to do it. In the meantime she does nothing, probably lost custody of her daughter and puts up with a cheating creep for a husband. I really don't like any of them. I think most of Elena's anger is jealousy and I think she cares more about her appearance than all of them put together.

[Chewy101]

39 minutes ago, Madding crowd said:

 

I don't have a problem with Terra being on DWTS. Any of these women would do it if asked. Someone posted that Terra should have passed and waited until next year; these invitations are not repeated. All of the women have nannies, how else are they going on all these girl trips? I also do not believe Terra is neglecting Penny. Terra mentioned Penny had an MRI and it clear she is under a doctor's care. If Terra talked about Penny's medical issues all the time she would be criticized for that.

I still think Terra is an awful person but I hate women being criticized for working when men never are. I can't stand Brianna: if someone writes a book she whines that she wanted to do it, if someone gets invited to do anything, boo hoo she wanted to do it. In the meantime she does nothing, probably lost custody of her daughter and puts up with a cheating creep for a husband. I really don't like any of them. I think most of Elena's anger is jealousy and I think she cares more about her appearance than all of them put together.

 

Lol. What are we doing here?? Why can't I stop watching the worst people ever doing terrible things and wearing terrible clothes, and wearing terrible hair, and forcing terrible situations. You got me, show.

We do know they have nannies, and have "met" a few of them. Tera's has quit before because mom was too controlling and hovering, and Briana got one for Maverick so she can pay more attention to her delinquent marriage. Plus, Christi's kid has been babysitting for the girls. 

I used to think Elena was the vainest one. Now she has let herself go and I guess she chose other priorities. Hopefully, she means it when she says it's her kids. She was very pretty. Now she just looks bloated and processed like the rest of them. It makes me laugh to see a Russian bombshell listening to an Acon unstable freak like Brianna talking about her modeling career. Why can't these people just get jobs and stop trying to be plastic Barbies. Models are less than 1% of the population. Not everyone gets to do it just because they want to. 

On 7/20/2017 at 2:04 PM, Calm81 said:

I still think the only non-fake one is Jasmine. I'd totally love to have her as a friend. She really does genuinely care for the people she keeps in her company and I truly respect her.

I think she stirs up a lot of crap with the girls and likes to turn them against one another. Watching her take sides is entertaining. 

Edited July 22, 2017 by Chewy101

[Madding crowd]

Jasmine is probably the fakest one. She acts all sweet and constantly stirs up shit between the others. I hate it when she asks someone in that syrupy voice " how do you feel about what x said about you?". 

[Mosspack1970]

3 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

I don't have a problem with Terra being on DWTS. Any of these women would do it if asked. Someone posted that Terra should have passed and waited until next year; these invitations are not repeated. All of the women have nannies, how else are they going on all these girl trips? I also do not believe Terra is neglecting Penny. Terra mentioned Penny had an MRI and it clear she is under a doctor's care. If Terra talked about Penny's medical issues all the time she would be criticized for that.

I still think Terra is an awful person but I hate women being criticized for working when men never are. I can't stand Brianna: if someone writes a book she whines that she wanted to do it, if someone gets invited to do anything, boo hoo she wanted to do it. In the meantime she does nothing, probably lost custody of her daughter and puts up with a cheating creep for a husband. I really don't like any of them. I think most of Elena's anger is jealousy and I think she cares more about her appearance than all of them put together.

I personally don't have a problem with Terra doing DWTS. I was guessing at Elena's thoughts. Basically Elena is rehashing the working mom vs. stay at home mom argument. 

Brianna has always been a whiny person. I seem to remember when Terra got married Brianna had a "medical emergency" and could not attend. I don't recall specifics it was so long ago back when Elena had a real butt. 

[Alapaki]

I think Kevin Frazer is an awesome host, but he left a lot of loose threads un-tugged on that Stefania story.

She's married . . . and yet she brought Matt home? . . . which is conveniently just walking distance from the luxury resort where she works?

And the ever-evolving story on Terra's end.  First they were alone for 3 hours at the resort.  Then it was 1 hour.  And it was in her room at the resort (which she wouldn't have if she lived just walking distance away).  

No follow-up from Kevin on these obvious questions.  And none of the cast touched on those issues either.

It was as if Stefania (and that whole storyline) was constructed solely to give the other women yet another reason to try to make Brianna hate Matt, as Kevin wishes them all the best.

I guess it's tough for them.  It really seems like they need some counseling . . . or at least some therapy to try to work things out . . . and ideally in a setting away from the hassles of their everyday lives. . . like some sort of Couples Retre . . . oh.  Nevermind.  I get it.

[Alapaki]

As between Terra and Elena, while I appreciate that Elena is finally someone who can screech as loudly and incessantly as Terra and so there's finally someone Terra can't shout down or out-shout, the flash-back clips reminded me of what an absolute asshole Elena is too.

For example, Godparent-gate: Elena is absolutely right that she doesn't owe Terra anything in that regard.  But it took until this reunion for Elena to finally admit that not filling Terra in on the fact that she'd chosen Jasmine was nothing more than a passive-aggressive "fuck you" to Terra.  I have no problem with that, but own up to it.  

And I think DWTS-gate is another example of Elena accusing Terra of being a bad parent solely as another passive-aggressive "fuck you" for Terra blowing Elena off, and for Elena being jealous that Terra got a big network show and Elena got nothing but fat.

Elena was a complete piece of shit to that British lady.  And Terra was absolutely right that Elena's "apology" was bullshit.  Elena, if you truly regret having acted a certain way to someone, and really want to apologize to them. . . then lead with that apology.  You don't toss it in at the end after you've taken another opportunity to be an asshole towards them but want to cover yourself by getting the last word and trying to look faux-noble.

Terra and Elena are both awful people, and I'd love to see them destroy each other.

[Alapaki]

Finally, Tonya?  Completely full. of. shit.

This "uncertainty" about the marriage to Kerwin is mostly a bullshit set-up so they can cash in on Couples Retreat money.

Although Kerwin does appear to be a retrograde misogynist asshole.

Let's face it, Kerwin is as useless as tits on a bull.  He gimps around expecting 3 homemade meals a day.  But he isn't brining in a penny beyond whatever disability payments he's getting as a result of whatever's got him gimped up.

If you want a wife who stays at home all day and fries up the bacon in a pan, you sure as shit better be a husband who brings that bacon home!  Or better yet, get your head out of your ass and into the 21st Century

[tessat]

I haven't watched this in a couple of years as I got sick of all the arguing and fighting. They all act like they are still in school. There will always be people that don't get along in a social setting, at work, ect... but these people have never grown up. Terra is a glory hog - I have never liked her and despite what she says - she comes first and everyone else second, Tonya is another one who feels she's superior to others, Brianna has no confidence in herself and does things like marrying Matt - to fit in and feel complete - neither of which worked. I still like Christy, Elena and Jasmine but Elena does take things too far and often isn't open minded. Her bullying of Mary reminded me of Terra and maybe she sees how she's becoming and that's why she wants to distance herself from Terra.

Terra is reaping in the benefits of this show, her and Joe's show after Penelope was born, DWTS, her book and who knows what else. Her criticizing and shaming Christy when all of them were in the entertainment field - not because of their "looks", vocals, or acting ability. The jobs they had were because they were little people. Her book 10 to 1 will again in some way be shaming these other women because Terra can be nothing but caustic.

[DixonVixen2359]

Did anybody else watch the "Couples Retreat trouble in paradise" shit show? I am going to hell for this, but I laughed at Tonya knocking Lila's bar stool over. Other than that, boring as hell. Lila's ex looks like Captain Caveman.

[Zanne]

I admit I watched it, but only because I saw Chris and Matt readying to fight in a promo and I was hoping they would beat the crap out of each other every episode. No such luck. I am wondering why some of these people are on the show since they don't seem to have troubled relationships, but everyone needs a paid vacation, I guess.

[4leafclover]

I only watch the LWLA, so I didn't know some of those other couples but I would have more respect for the whole concept if Tonya would have just said, "The show is paying us to stay at this resort and we all wanted a free vacay."  Instead, she says the same old thing they always say---"I invited the 'girls' and their partners here so we can work on our issues and blah, blah, blah."  Same song, different verse--invite people you hate to vacation with you, someone uninvited arrives, screaming and fighting ensues, nothing gets resolved, partners stand around looking dumb.   And what the heck was that with Lila???

Edited July 27, 2017 by 4leafclover

[Madding crowd]

There is no way Lila and that Weird Al lookalike were a couple. She was brought on to cause trouble. I don't watch the Atlanta or Dallas shows so I didn't know a couple of the women. I guess Tonya is supposed to pretend she is the host ? 

Edited July 27, 2017 by Madding crowd

[Chewy101]

Who are these people? I've never watched the other Little People shows, so all of their acting out had no context. 

Watching Tonya pretending this trip was her idea was hilarious. I was really hoping Tera and Joe would be there. Joe is a mess and Tera entertains me. So something is definitely missing for me. 

All of this being a complete rip-off of the movie Couples Retreat is annoying. Why on earth would anyone think Paradise can fix things? Go to actual therapy, you tools, and save the Paradise vacation for when you wont ruin it with your crap.

And WHAT is with that weird loser with the hair. Are you kidding me? He says he has multiple flings? No. If he's lucky, his mom likes him. That is about it.

Tonya pushing Lila (one insane lady) down in that barstool is just begging for another lawsuit.

Edited July 27, 2017 by Chewy101

[Tosia]

Yep, another shitshow.

You know Douchematt is looking around for another one night stand.  

Too bad Tonya or the producers couldn't send Lila packing back to New York with that man beast.  But then there wouldn't be a show.  

Boring New York couples. Yawn. 

[kassa]

On 7/22/2017 at 10:47 PM, Alapaki said:

I think Kevin Frazer is an awesome host, but he left a lot of loose threads un-tugged on that Stefania story.

She's married . . . and yet she brought Matt home? . . . which is conveniently just walking distance from the luxury resort where she works?

Many resort locations hire staff from away and give them housing during high season, so by "home" she might simply have meant "the place I'm staying these four months while I'm working here."  Away from her actual home where the husband and boyfriend are.  Pickings must be slim up there for Matt to seem like an attractive option, but she's obviously an attention seeker, so the prospect of ending up in a storyline might have been sufficient.

[Chewy101]

4 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

There is no way Lila and that Weird Al lookalike were a couple. She was brought on to cause trouble. I don't watch the Atlanta or Dallas shows so I didn't know a couple of the women. I guess Tonya is supposed to pretend she is the host ? 

I *think* Lila is from the New York show. But anyway, hot mess, regardless.