S09.E08: The Truth Comes Out

[Galloway Cave]

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Janelle's house is all joy as Maddie has her baby shower; Christine is devastated when Ysabel's x-rays show that her scoliosis is worsening and surgery is imminent; in desperation they turn to unproven alternative treatments.

I have no idea what the title of the episode has to do with the description. I feel really bad for Ysabel and even worse for her that her idiot parents are turning to unproven alternative treatments (in other words, they don't have the insurance for surgery) to help her. Yeah Meri, buy another house and beg for money from the other wives. Christine and Kody, indulge Mykelti and FT with their ridic wedding. Let Ysabel suffer while Christine and Kody voodoo around the issue. Asshats, each and every one of them.

[ginger90]

[Sandy W]

33 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

I have no idea what the title of the episode has to do with the description. I feel really bad for Ysabel and even worse for her that her idiot parents are turning to unproven alternative treatments (in other words, they don't have the insurance for surgery) to help her. Yeah Meri, buy another house and beg for money from the other wives. Christine and Kody, indulge Mykelti and FT with their ridic wedding. Let Ysabel suffer while Christine and Kody voodoo around the issue. Asshats, each and every one of them.

Not only that, they encouraged her to take part in that stupid 'march'.  The long car ride alone from LV to SLC, was no doubt uncomfortable for her.  Too bad Paedon wasn't a few years older, he may have spoken up and said, No, you are not going to subject my sister to that!

[mythoughtis]

Just exactly what alternative treatments are there for spine curvature: surgery ry, brace, possibly chiropractic? Are they silly enough to think yoga stretches will fix bones?  Or that green stuff they used to drink? 

I’m guessing the truth comes out has to do with Meri and Kody and/or who actually will be involved with the bed and breakfast. 

Edited March 4, 2018 by mythoughtis

[Galloway Cave]

43 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Just exactly what alternative treatments are there for spine curvature: surgery ry, brace, possibly chiropractic?

Those are all proven, normal treatments. When someone starts talking about unproven alternative treatments, that sends chills down my untreated curved, fusioned spine (herniated disks are not my friend). I have heard that plygs tend to try alternative treatment since they usually don't have insurance and they don't want to see regular doctors due to their persecution complex. I'm all for alternative treatment and holistic treatment myself, as long as it is safe and proven. But we are talking about a child here. I won't get too worked up until I see the episode and see what kind of shit they are talking about.

[mythoughtis]

9 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

Those are all proven, normal treatments

Thanks for clarifying my post, Galloway. I meant to say besides the 3 normal ones I listed.  My fingers got ahead of my brain.  I am very cautious about my spine, eyes, ears, etc. However, what do you expect from people like the Kody Brown family that don’t know how to tell when a child  is ill and needs to be in a hospital. 

Edited March 4, 2018 by mythoughtis

[Natalie68]

50 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Thanks for clarifying my post, Galloway. I meant to say besides the 3 normal ones I listed.  My fingers got ahead of my brain.  I am very cautious about my spine, eyes, ears, etc. However, what do you expect from people like the Kody Brown family that don’t know how to tell when a child  is ill and needs to be in a hospital. 

I am surprised they aren't doing a laying on of hands.  That is what my Mormon family used when my cousin had problems conceiving.  My response was hmmmm.  

[ginger90]

Found this:

Alternative Treatments. Alternative scoliosis treatment can include physical therapy exercises, yoga, and chiropractic. These types of treatments are regarded as alternative because they fall outside of the traditional orthopedic practices of observation, bracing, and surgery.

[Galloway Cave]

3 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Alternative Treatments. Alternative scoliosis treatment can include physical therapy exercises, yoga, and chiropractic.

The outcome of those treatments could be minimal or insignificant. But they are all known types of treatment. I am still worried about the use of the word "unproven", meaning it's a treatment that hasn't been used so there is no known outcome from that treatment. I know TLC or the Browns are probably just jerking our chains again and they are using a known alternative treatment that doesn't help much. But you never know with this bunch.

[toodles]

If they do a skit or "dance number" I think I will puke.  Thank god for FF.

[jacksgirl]

For goodness sake FatTony, wear sleeves to dinner. Hate men with no sleeves around food

[greekmom]

I hate the fact they are using Yasbel's medical issue for ratings.

Kodouch looks rough.

I like Marah's girlfriend and the fact that Meri and her daughter are back to a close relationship.

[Meowwww]

Mariah looks amazing!  She seems happy and that’s great!  

Edited March 5, 2018 by Meowwww

[KateHearts]

What the HELL is going on with Kody's hair? He looks psychotic.  As far as the concern about the scoliosis?  There are so many much, much worse things to over-dramatize.

[Chicklet]

Meri says they are "inviting me to live on my own" if they turn down her request for money. Honey he DIVORCED you. You "are" on your own - you just haven't realized it yet. Idiots. Every one.

Scoliosis can kill teenagers. I've seen it after parents let the child decide not to have surgery and they investigated "exercise". This shouldn't be a plot point at all.

[Sasha888]

I know they probably wanted to film this scoliosis discussion with just the 5 adults, but it's really disturbing to me that Maddie's in the background goofing around on her laptop. It makes it look like she doesn't give a shit about her sister. 

[spacefly]

I have a friend with a similar if not worse curvature and she has two metal rods supporting her spine. It's not pretty, after seeing what my friend has gone through I might try something else before surgery. She is officially disabled at 29 and was on a ton of Fentynal but now takes extremely expensive medical marijuana. She has little hope of getting much better. I really feel for Ysabel, that's a tough road she has ahead of her.

[TurtlePower]

3 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Meri says they are "inviting me to live on my own" if they turn down her request for money. Honey he DIVORCED you. You "are" on your own - you just haven't realized it yet. Idiots. Every one.

Scoliosis can kill teenagers. I've seen it after parents let the child decide not to have surgery and they investigated "exercise". This shouldn't be a plot point at all.

She was prepared to leave for a handsome rich guy (catfish) who, whether real or not, exposed her true colors. Buh-bye. 

[ginger90]

[Chicklet]

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1 minute ago, TurtlePower said:

She was prepared to leave for a handsome rich guy (catfish) who, whether real or not, exposed her true colors. Buh-bye. 

 

Oh yea that just compounds her appearing so stupid when she says even dumber things like that their "relationship" is strained. How odd that a recently divorced couple would have a strained relationship. Color me shocked.

[Sasha888]

God, Meri does love her ugly shoes, doesn't she. "We drove to the therapist together, it's a big dill!" Yep...that bodes well for your therapy session. (Maybe I shouldn't be sarcastic, since Meri & Janelle actually CAN'T ride there together - sheesh.) What a pack of loons.

[Kyanight]

What in the WORLD does Meri EXPECT?    I'm sorry - but I am totally on Kody's side here.  I think he is the voice of reason.    I honestly think Meri expects the family to sell all of the kids' toys and belongings on Ebay, maybe put a few kids up for adoption so that they can save on the cost of raising them,  two of the wives can sell their houses and move in with the third wife and they can ALL give ALL of their money and assets to Meri.  Because she wants it and expects it.

 

Because... otherwise I am just not "getting" where Meri expects the funds for the B&B to come from.  OBVIOUSLY she obtained the funds - but at this point in the show I want to know what she was EXPECTING!

[KateHearts]

14 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Scoliosis can kill teenagers.

I used to work in spine surgery and never saw this, nor was I told that death was a complication. And I saw older women with severe scoliosis who suffered chronic pain and disfigurement. But I'm hard pressed to think it could cause death.

[Chicklet]

Scoliosis can kill due to severe compression of the lungs and heart. I've seen a child die of it. And it's a brutal surgery with frequent complications.

I worked exclusively with children so maybe your experience was different.

Edited March 5, 2018 by Chicklet

[absolutelyido]

26 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

What the HELL is going on with Kody's hair? He looks psychotic.  As far as the concern about the scoliosis?  There are so many much, much worse things to over-dramatize.

On the sofa he looks like he got a perm.

17 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

I know they probably wanted to film this scoliosis discussion with just the 5 adults, but it's really disturbing to me that Maddie's in the background goofing around on her laptop. It makes it look like she doesn't give a shit about her sister. 

That was really distracting. Caleb was also in the background. He looked like he was making a sandwich or something which seemed a little insensitive given the gravity of the situation they were discussing and how upset Christine was.

Edited March 5, 2018 by absolutelyido

[Sasha888]

3 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

What in the WORLD does Meri EXPECT?    I'm sorry - but I am totally on Kody's side here.  I think he is the voice of reason.    I honestly think Meri expects the family to sell all of the kids' toys and belongings on Ebay, maybe put a few kids up for adoption so that they can save on the cost of raising them,  two of the wives can sell their houses and move in with the third wife and they can ALL give ALL of their money and assets to Meri.  Because she wants it and expects it.

 

Because... otherwise I am just not "getting" where Meri expects the funds for the B&B to come from.  OBVIOUSLY she obtained the funds - but at this point in the show I want to know what she was EXPECTING!

I agree with you...and I hate agreeing with Kody but Meri is so ridiculously selfish. Meri says she wants to be part of the family, but she's just been told how severe Ysabel's scoliosis is - how could anyone not see that right now, every extra resource the family has needs to go to help this child.

I think when Meri wants something, she's going to make damn sure she gets it, and she doesn't care who she has to step on to get it.

[Kohola3]

18 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

Maddie's in the background goofing around on her laptop. It makes it look like she doesn't give a shit about her sister. 

Why should she?  She's got free room and board and free baby sitting so her life is good.

 

3 minutes ago, absolutelyido said:

He looked like he was making a sandwich or something which seemed a little insensitive given the gravity of the situation and how upset Christine was.

See above.

[Meowwww]

Meri is such a whiner!!!   She wants her way, period, family money etc.  but SHE is the one who would have left if Sam had been real.  

She is acting like that never happened.  And Cody and the other wives can’t forget it.  I feel rage lol at Meri and her insistence that she is the victim.    

[ginger90]

[Meowwww]

Just now, Sasha888 said:

 

I think when Meri wants something, she's going to make damn sure she gets it, and she doesn't care who she has to step on to get it.

This.  100000000%

[Galloway Cave]

How many times has Meri said the word "I" tonight?

[Chicklet]

Meri doesn't know any other pronouns.

[KateHearts]

Meri: "I want to get close. I want to get to know him."

Kody: "I don't give a shit."

Honey, he's totally checked out. It's over.

[DakotaJustice]

2 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Meri doesn't know any other pronouns.

I disagree.  She knows ME ME ME ME ME 

[ginger90]

[Sasha888]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

No honey, you're not. You're not wise. If she's implying she took out a mortgage based on her income from LuLaRoe, that's the opposite of wise. That's a pyramid scheme company, and when the trendiness passes, the bubble is going to burst and you'll be sitting there with a garage full of ugly clothes you can't sell.

I'll honestly be shocked if any respectable mortgage company gave her a loan based on "LuLaRoe makes dreams come true."

[Chicklet]

God I'm yelling at my TV. Kody and Meri wouldn't have survived 10 years alone because plural marriage distracted them from their issues or prevented them from noticing or dealing with them. When you only have every 3rd day to deal with it, ugh.

 

ETA- some days I can spell but its hard to throw things at the TV and type.

Edited March 5, 2018 by Chicklet

[DakotaJustice]

11 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

I agree with you...and I hate agreeing with Kody but Meri is so ridiculously selfish. Meri says she wants to be part of the family, but she's just been told how severe Ysabel's scoliosis is - how could anyone not see that right now, every extra resource the family has needs to go to help this child.

I think when Meri wants something, she's going to make damn sure she gets it, and she doesn't care who she has to step on to get it.

I can think of ONE thing she won't be getting anymore, no matter how much she wants it, and that's fun time with Little Kody.

Did you guys catch where Christine tweeted that Ysibel has had "several concussions"?  How, pray tell, does THAT happen?!?

[Galloway Cave]

Meri and Robyn are trying to live monogamous marriages in a plural marriage situation. Only Robyn is winning at that game right now. Occasionally Christine gets on her high horse and makes monog demands; ironically only Janelle is ok with the the plyg situation. Kody knows the only way he can function in a plyg marriage is to give as little as possible to each wife. The only reason Robyn gets more now is because Meri gets zero. And he is not willing to upset the status quo right now to please Meri.

I can't watch Ysabell cry, poor girl.

[KateHearts]

What does #becauseoflularoe refer to?

[Sasha888]

Kody - "Some of my wives will have a tendency to join me in that big picture of the whole family, and others of my wives will tend to see things more in their microcosm."

He's talking about YOU, Meri. You're the one who doesn't see the family as a whole, and just sees "I want, I want, I want".

I hate it when Kody is rational and has a valid point and I have to agree with the asshat. ;-P

[Granny58]

I realize I am the odd man out, but I feel pity for Meri.  Not that the new house demand isn't crazy, but still...she's lonely.  She THINKS Kody is who she wants but I think she just wants to be loved...with a man completely her own.  I don't understand why she can't see that she should leave.  He already divorced her!!!   Meri, read the tea leaves and do better for yourself.  I wish I could shake her!!!!!      

[toodles]

2 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

 

I hate it when Kody is rational and has a valid point and I have to agree with the asshat. ;-P

Me too.  It bugs the everlovin' shit out of me.

[Granny58]

An "ugly scar" is unfortunate but not really that terrible.  I wonder...did Ysabel have any symptoms before the scoliosis was detected at school.

[DragonFaerie]

12 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said:

I can think of ONE thing she won't be getting anymore, no matter how much she wants it, and that's fun time with Little Kody.

EWW!!!  And my brain went straight to does Little Kody have the same bad hairstyle as Big Kody?  Off to get some Brain bleach and head to the prayer closet.

[Galloway Cave]

Fuck you Christine and fuck your talk about the Ugly Scar. After two back surgeries, I have "ugly scars" that I wear proudly. They will only be ugly to her if YOU make them ugly. 

Ysabell honey, start researching some kick ass spine tattoos if you really don't want a long scar showing back there.

Edited March 5, 2018 by Galloway Cave

[Kohola3]

3 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

I wonder...did Ysabel have any symptoms before the scoliosis was detected at school.

Well, with the number of kids in the various litters, I bet none of her parents noticed anything.  Poor kid.

3 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

They will only be ugly to her if YOU make them ugly. 

Absolutely.  Talk about setting her up for failure.

[DakotaJustice]

12 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

What does #becauseoflularoe refer to?

Meri's been selling Lularoe for about a year and a half now.  She's a total bitch when she's doing her FB Lives ("READ THE PINNED POST!!!") but she seems to be doing well at it thus far.  

[toodles]

Isabel is breaking my heart.  That poor little girl.  That is all.

[tabloidlover]

Please excuse me if this has been posted about already.   My pure RAGE at these assholes has caused me to hit pause just to post.

Speaking as someone diagnosed with a slight bit of scoliosis as a teen whose parents decided I would be able to “fix it”  in unorthodox ways such as physical therapy and correcting my own posture,  I had FOUR spinal surgeries before the age of 40 because my parents didn’t want to “put me through surgery” at such a young age.    GET YSABEL SOME REAL MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!!!!    As a result, my young son and husband had to watch me go through years of pain and suffering only to then watch me have surgery after surgery.  

My nephew by marriage had scoliosis and his mother (my sister in law) made him have the surgery.  He is a fully functioning adult with no pain.   THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS A FUCKING PARENT!! 

I still deal with pain every single day and I will never be 100%  and  I tell myself that my parents didn’t know any better, but this episode has me furious.   

GET POOR YSABEL SOME ACTUAL MEDICAL INTERVENTION 

Edited March 5, 2018 by tabloidlover