"The View": Week Of 2/12/18

[Richard]

I upload quite a bit on YouTube and am always given the choice of three thumbnails in addition to uploading a custom one. 

[Apprentice79]

17 minutes ago, NotinKansasanymore said:

I might have missed more, but from the news I was watching it stated, "The FBI says it never made contact with Cruz. They say the comment was not specific enough to warrant a subpoena for an IP address or other info from YouTube ... which might have led them to Cruz."

If that is true, I really do think they dropped the ball, if they didn't even try to find the IP address for a person that makes a violent threat like that.

This should be mentioned on the show! Although if they do, I really think Meghan would quit, but they have had plenty of guests praise her father, so you should be able to take the negative criticism as well. I would like to see them have the head of the NRA on the view. I'm amazed that they have that much power, we need to take it back from them. WE have the vote, that should be stronger cause if you sell out, we Should be voting you out.

 

As for Joy apologizing, yeah, I always think it is a landmine if you talk religion. I found what she said a little offensive, but I also knew she was joking. But I think if you make any jokes, using mental illness, and Jesus, it's not going to play well for some. There is a reason people always say don't talk politics and religion, and on the View they have to talk about both all the time. On occasion one says something many find offensive, apologizes, and we the audience move on.

 Joy was joking. She explicitly said that Pence was not insane.  I do believe if you believe that supernatural beings literally speak to you, whether it is God or the Devil, then, you are mentally ill. I pray as well, but, I have yet to hear a voice speak back to me. If I ever heard voices, then, I would seek help.

It really pissed me off how Meggie apologized for the show. It was meant as a dig at Joy. She was full of it with her righteous indignation.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Apprentice79

[GoldenGirl90]

8 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

It really pissed me off how Meggie apologized for the show. It was meant as a dig at Joy. She was full of it with her righteous indignation.

After everything her fellow hosts said previously, for her to issue an apology to Mike Pence specifically, as if she’s the spokesperson for The View, was disrespectful as hell in my eyes. It was a smack in the face to Whoopi, Sunny and Joy, who made it clear that ABC is a tolerant network and that they meant no harm.

[GoldenGirl90]

Not sure how many Roseanne fans we have here but I just recently found out that Joy will be conducting the interview tonight on ABC. A lot of people on social media are outraged and said they will not be watching because of Joy. I can’t wait and will be tuning in. ?

I think Whoopi gave a brief shoutout about the special at the very end.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Alexis2291

[Gemma Violet]

14 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

After everything her fellow hosts said previously, for her to issue an apology to Mike Pence specifically, as if she’s the spokesperson for The View, was disrespectful as hell in my eyes. It was a smack in the face to Whoopi, Sunny and Joy, who made it clear that ABC is a tolerant network and that they meant no harm.

And similar to that, a few days ago, she told a guest to come back any time.  In both cases, the producers would make that decision and presumably tell Whoopie (or whoever is moderating that day) who then announces it to the audience.  It's not for Meghan to speak for the show.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Gemma Violet

[Former Nun]

...and as usual (as in life), Meghan will slither out unscathed.

[blondiec0332]

9 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

And similar to that, a few days ago, she told a guest to come back any time.  In both cases, the producers would make that decision and presumably tell Whoopie (or whoever is moderating that day) who then announces it to the audience.  It's not for Meghan to speak for the show.

She does it all the time.   I think she does think she speaks for the show. 

[GoldenGirl90]

20 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

...and as usual (as in life), Meghan will slither out unscathed.

Meghan “Miss Privileged” McCain.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Alexis2291

[Kenz]

1 hour ago, backformore said:

 

Really?  Someone says they want to kill, the authorities investigate, find there is nothing to be done, the kid was kicked out of school, people were concerned.  What does Meghan think CAN be done?  Lots of people have the potential to be violent.  We don't have a system where we can predict who will and who will not.  AND - even if we did, you can't lock someone up for what they MIGHT do in the future.  Psychiatric hospitals will commit someone who is actively suicidal or homicidal.  but once they have treatment, and no longer have those thoughts - we do not have a way to legislate who needs psychiatric help.  (except AFTER they have committed a crime) 

The law under Obama was not that people with mental illness cannot have guns.  It was that people whose mental illness incapacitated them so much that they were collecting social security disability payments because they could not work, could not have guns.  and then there was talk of extending it to people who were considered legally incapable of managing their affairs and finances - so, adults who needed someone else to be their legal guardian. I don't know if that would have prevented this particular person from killing, because I don't know his situation.  But the law made absolute sense, and there is no reasonable explanation for why trump overturned it. (except to appease the NRA)

 

The shooter Cruz had attended a mental clinic but dropped out. His father died several years ago, and his mother died last November. A friend's family took him in. He owned the AK-15 and brought it with him to live with the family. They had it locked up, but he had the key. The family thought he wasn't violent enough to do what he did. As Backformore stated, you can't lock someone up for what they MIGHT do in the future. So for Meghan to say that FBI agents and others should be fired is just ignorant. She dared not mention the subject of responsible gun control because her Republican cronies, including her father and super conservative husband, would have had a meltdown, and the conservative "tough chick" would have to hang up her credentials.

Edited February 16, 2018 by Kenz

[atlantaloves]

You are called Mrs. Wonderful Miss MM? Only because you are probably bald bitch. Yeah, I said it. 

[fishsanwitt]

Today's show was... eclectic. First, MM apologizes to VP Pence for the show and all the hosts? Who does she think she is? Then, BabyAir, Whoopie's Shark Tank idea - I actually like it - but wouldn't it cost families a lot more? 

[RedheadZombie]

7 hours ago, Alexis2291 said:

Meghan McCain said that people in the FBI who were alerted of this sicko and didn’t do anything should be fired. Clearly she hasn’t been keeping up with the news because it has already been reported multiple times that the FBI exhausted all measures to track down the person who left the  “I’m going to be a professional school shooter” comment on YouTube and they came up with nothing.

It’s also funny that Meghan brought up mental illness because as Sunny pointed out, Trump rolled back the Obama-era regulations that would keep mentally ill people from purchasing guns. As she said, if Trump cares so much about mentally ill people buying guys, why sign an executive order getting rid of the regulation? I actually have a pretty good idea as to why Trump deregualted an Obama-era policy but I don’t want to stray off topic so I’ll leave it at that. Anyway, I noticed Meggie looking down as Sunny posed the question. I also agree with Sunny that if the murders of those poor babies during Sandy Hook didn’t change anything, I’m not sure what will. 

You beat me to it. I guess they wanted to be careful not to tackle that subject because the only one at that table who kind of hinted towards it is Joy, who said that money should be taken out of politics. I think Whoopi also mentioned something about lobbyist.

Overall, I’m as frustrated as Joy - I’m sick of having these same conversations over and over. Stop with all the prayers because with all due respect, it’s not working. How many more prayers is it gonna take for Congress to take action?

EDIT: Just to clarify, when I say stop with the prayers I mean that whenever these tragedies happen, it seems like all everyone in power does is send out their thoughts and prayers and not much else.

Ten years ago in the state of Georgia, then-governor Sonny Perdue called for a prayer vigil to fight against the state's severe drought.  People came to the steps of the capitol, praying, listening to pastors and a gospel chorus.  People brought umbrellas because they thought the "heavens would open up".  I have just moved from Chicago and knew I had just made the worst mistake of my life.  This man is the current U.S. Secretary of Agriculture.

[GoldenGirl90]

1 minute ago, RedheadZombie said:

Ten years ago in the state of Georgia, then-governor Sonny Perdue called for a prayer vigil to fight against the state's severe drought.  People came to the steps of the capitol, praying, listening to pastors and a gospel chorus.  People brought umbrellas because they thought the "heavens would open up".  I have just moved from Chicago and knew I had just made the worst mistake of my life.  This man is the current U.S. Secretary of Agriculture.

I lived in Atlanta ten yrs ago and remember this. And Atlanta is considered a liberal city in the red state of Georgia...

[RedheadZombie]

7 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Since I only got to see 15 minutes of today's show, I'm catching up on Youtube.  Here's a clip:

Meghan is insufferable, and so condescending to Joy.  I'm surprised she didn't roll out the war on Christmas, and the plight of the white man.  She's unbearable to me.  She has insulted The View since she was hired and should be terminated for this alone.

[Onceafan]

3 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

Ten years ago in the state of Georgia, then-governor Sonny Perdue called for a prayer vigil to fight against the state's severe drought.  People came to the steps of the capitol, praying, listening to pastors and a gospel chorus.  People brought umbrellas because they thought the "heavens would open up".  I have just moved from Chicago and knew I had just made the worst mistake of my life.  This man is the current U.S. Secretary of Agriculture.

With all due respect many cultures believe in ceremonies, rituals, prayers, and dancing in belief for rain. I attended an amazing beautiful and very moving rain dance performed by the Choctaw Nation in 2014. 

After having the privilege of attending I bought a book regarding rain rituals done in North America, Africa, and Thailand cultures.

You are very much entitled to your own views on this subject, I'm just wanting to express my own. For many cultures praying for rain is very spiritual.

[Former Nun]

5 hours ago, fishsanwitt said:

BabyAir, Whoopie's Shark Tank idea - I actually like it - but wouldn't it cost families a lot more? 

It's completely unworkable.  People have joked about this idea for decades.  If it were economically feasible, we'd have had at least one carrier years ago.  I do like that the budget allowed for her great graphics and props.  It was fun.

Edited February 16, 2018 by Former Nun
no edit; changed my mind.

[Former Nun]

6 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

6 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

And similar to that, a few days ago, she told a guest to come back any time.  In both cases, the producers would make that decision and presumably tell Whoopie (or whoever is moderating that day) who then announces it to the audience.  It's not for Meghan to speak for the show.

 

She does it all the time.   I think she does think she speaks for the show. 

It bugs me when Whoopi says it too.  Although it's meant as a polite gesture, it seems insincere.  Everyone knows the guests CAN'T come back "anytime."    

[bannana]

Just now, Former Nun said:

It's completely unworkable.  People have joked about this idea for decades.  If it were economically feasible, we'd have had at least one carrier years ago.  I do like that the budget allowed for her great graphics and props.  It was fun.

Yes, the airline industry is not a profitable one to begin with.  What Whoopi is talking about is essentially what was known as a "charter" airline, and if you think about airlines now that go only to sun destinations.  The sun destination airlines work in part because they have a very large market within a period of time with the desire to go to that destination.  But they still have slim margins of profitability.  And they are competing with major airlines, whose bread and butter is the business traveller, and they fill the back of the plane with economy biz travellers, and leisure travellers. It is tough to be an airline if you don't have that business traveller market...they pay full fare or close to it.

Many countries have completely subsidized national airlines.  Think of the airline business as the rail business.  The government generally subsidizes it or partially owns it.

To her point about families, one time I was travelling from Toronto to Orlando for business.  90% of the passengers were families going to Disney World.  The rest of us were biz travellers, not necessarily in biz class.  The plan sat on the tarmac in TO for hours before we departed.  Parents and kids were miserable.  We arrived well after midnight in Orlando.  So on a flight like this, Whoopi's ideas would be great, but that is not going to happen because this same aircraft is deployed for regular flights other times.  I think the Shark people made it clear, not a feasible business venture.

[SanDiegoInExile]

17 hours ago, Tunia said:

Seriously, ABC?  Robin Roberts throws back to regular programming, but you have to show NINE commercials running for a full FOUR minutes beforehand?  It's always about the $$$.

This is a surprise?  Broadcast network television does not exist for entertainment value.  It exists to make money. It's show Business.  That's one reason why each hour of daytime TV has 18-24 minutes of commercials.  

I always watch the show on the ABC APP. Today, the show had the regular 6 commercial breaks, but each was only a 30 second ABC promotion.

[imjagain]

14 hours ago, Jan Levenson said:

I hope so - she completely undermined the whole segment to repeat exactly what Tomi What’s-her-face spewed on Fox and Friends. It undermines her cohosts and her network. Plus Sunny piped in to say she’s never felt disrespected as a prolife Catholic. The whole segment was supposed to be the team coming together to diffuse the faux outrage Fox News created, but then Meghan starts the fire again. I just don’t get her.

Also, as she was speaking, Joy had this smile on her face that just looked like she was thinking, “You BS artist.”

She cleary doesn't see her self as part of the team. She loved that Joy was called out. She didn't want it to be smoothed out. So glad WG shut her down. Hopefully MM , pushing her agenda and making a big deal about going on CNN to have a respectful conversation  (implying  she can't have one on the view) shows them that MM doesn't belong on this show.

[blondiec0332]

2 hours ago, imjagain said:

She cleary doesn't see her self as part of the team. She loved that Joy was called out. She didn't want it to be smoothed out. So glad WG shut her down. Hopefully MM , pushing her agenda and making a big deal about going on CNN to have a respectful conversation  (implying  she can't have one on the view) shows them that MM doesn't belong on this show.

She might be angling for her own show.   With the exception of her the cohosts all seem to have a rapport.  She is acting like an unwelcome guest.  Which is of her own doing.   Just because she has different views doesn't mean she wouldn't be accepted by the other cohosts.  But her being so antagonistic is going to make the other women not want her there.   Even Sunny seems to have lost patience with Meghan 

Edited February 16, 2018 by blondiec0332

[Gemma Violet]

29 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

She might be angling for her own show.   With the exception of her the cohosts all seem to have a rapport.  She is acting like an unwelcome guest.  Which is of her own doing.   Just because she has different views doesn't mean she wouldn't be accepted by the other cohorts.  But her being so antagonistic is going to make the other women not want her there.   Even Sunny seems to have lost patience with Meghan 

I think the other hosts will simply wait it out.  There's no way Meghan will be there a second year.  Even if by some miracle the producers wanted her to stay, there's no way she'd stay when she's obviously not enjoying herself.  

[Haleth]

And it will give Ana time to find an apartment in NYC.  :)

[sugarbaker design]

1 hour ago, Haleth said:

And it will give Ana time to find an apartment in NYC.  :)

Yay!

[GoldenGirl90]

3 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

She might be angling for her own show

This may be another reason why she's letting people like Stephen Colbert and Van Jones interview her - as a test run or something, maybe to broaden her appeal and see how the audience reacts to her. Neither crowds seemed THAT excited by her, TBH. Stephen Colbert's audience barely clapped when she walked out.

2 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

There's no way Meghan will be there a second year.

I don't see it, either. I'm kind of surprised she hasn't walked off the set yet. 

[Bronzedog]

Sunny, please never wear that yellow dress again.  'k?  Thanks!

[Guest]

Unless Meghan states that her views on gun control are tied to her father/NRA contributions to her father/etc., John McCain remains off topic.  

If you don't yet realize John McCain and Meghan McCain are not the same person, feel free to google them and you will see they don't look that similar.

[ari333]

What I didn't like about the Orange Theory Fitness (is that the name?) is that the info, heart rate etc was posted on the wall. Why not have it on the individual machine?  Having to compare myself to a healthy 20 year old would not motivate me at all. 

[athousandclowns]

Quote

I don't know a lot about guns but people who hunt do so for food and sport right?  If someone uses an AR-15 to shoot a deer wouldn't that be overkill?  And how is it sport to use a gun that can spray several bullets in seconds?

It would be " sport" if the animals had a weapon too. When someone ( a surgeon neighbour ) paid thousands of dollars to be flown to exotic locations to kill tigers etc. It is not sport. No consumping of meat... Just heads on a wall.   

[Jaded]

9 minutes ago, ari333 said:

What I didn't like about the Orange Theory Fitness (is that the name?) is that the info, heart rate etc was posted on the wall. Why not have it on the individual machine?  Having to compare myself to a healthy 20 year old would not motivate me at all. 

All it took was one crack about "holding up her ex-husbands" during that gym promotion segment from Sherri for me to start giving her the side eye again. It immediately brought to mind the baby drama with the 2nd ex....

It looked like Sherri was the plumpest person there that day at the time filming was being done. There wasn't much explanation of how things work there or much of anything else besides that lady using keywords for promotion during her and Sherri's exchange before the treadmill bit went on for too long.

[May Jacks]

Both Sides McCain told Hillary to go away but is all about Romney running again. I wonder why.

[blondiec0332]

Tabloids engage in shady behavior?  I'm shocked.  Absolutely shocked.  Not.

[GHScorpiosRule]

What I want to know is, if Whoopi was on today, and if so, did she go into her Valley Girl Voice and talk about Jennifer Aniston's divorce announcement?

[GoldenGirl90]

1 minute ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

What I want to know is, if Whoopi was on today, and if so, did she go into her Valley Girl Voice and talk about Jennifer Aniston's divorce announcement?

Yes, she was on today and I changed the channel once they started talking about Jennifer Aniston because I'm not a fan so I couldn't tell you if she used her valley girl voice.

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

What I want to know is, if Whoopi was on today, and if so, did she go into her Valley Girl Voice and talk about Jennifer Aniston's divorce announcement?

She was there and made it known she didn't care about Jennifer Aniston's divorce.  Paula on the other hand was gushing about how now maybe Jen and  Brad can get back together.

[GHScorpiosRule]

11 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Yes, she was on today and I changed the channel once they started talking about Jennifer Aniston because I'm not a fan so I couldn't tell you if she used her valley girl voice.

Thanks. I'm not a fan, either, but when I read about it yesterday, I TOTALLY knew that Whoopi would probably go into that voice when talking about it. 'Like, you know, like, Jennifer and her husband' [whose name I don't remember] 'okay, just announced like, they're getting divorced. Yeah! Can you believe it? Only two years! Like, you know, I thought they'd last 4-ever, you know? So, like, do you think, like, she and Brad, who's also now divorced, are, like, gettting back togetherrrr? Like, even though he cheated on her? Like, whatever!'

10 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

She was there and made it known she didn't care about Jennifer Aniston's divorce.  Paula on the other hand was gushing about how now maybe Jen and  Brad can get back together.

I knew it!

Edited February 16, 2018 by GHScorpiosRule

[GoldenGirl90]

I read that using Whoopi's valley girl voice lol that was perfect @GHScorpiosRule !!

[GHScorpiosRule]

6 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I read that using Whoopi's valley girl voice lol that was perfect @GHScorpiosRule !!

Thanks. I do have my moments. But this shit writes itself.

[OnTime]

Meghan:  blah, blah, blah...I'm a NRA member......blah, blah, blah

[Prairiemakeup]

I think Paula was incessantly going on about Jennifer Anniston because she knew she was pushing Whoopi’s buttons. 

[fishsanwitt]

The gun debate. So useless. Unless the government does something, it's, unfortunately, rinse and repeat. Very sad.

I love Ronan Farrow. So nice to see him. He is doing such amazing work. 

I think Paula was going on about Jen/Brad because Whoopi almost forgot to introduce her at the beginning of the show!

[imjagain]

27 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Yes, she was on today and I changed the channel once they started talking about Jennifer Aniston because I'm not a fan so I couldn't tell you if she used her valley girl voice.

Yeah, I don't really care much about Brad and Jen and all that the conversation brings. What bugs me is why they have to  have the conversation at all? Whoopi dosent care and made it very clear. I don't think most of them cared except Paula,  that actually made me lol. She was so into the conversation.  I just dislike that whoopi acts so above the conversation and of course above dating and marriage.  Her job is to moderate the table. Her Job! If she doesn'tlike talking about it talk with the producers and tell them this kind of topic bores us at the table, so let's skip it. Instead of acting like people interested are idiots. Like I said i don't care, but I can see why some need a distraction from all the dire news lately. 

 

Good to know The View books all MM friends (Ronan Farrow),  you'd think she would seem happier. 

19 minutes ago, Prairiemakeup said:

I think Paula was incessantly going on about Jennifer Anniston because she knew she was pushing Whoopi’s buttons. 

Lol, I didn't think of that , now I really do think that is funny.

[GoldenGirl90]

1 minute ago, imjagain said:

Good to know The View books all MM friends (Ronan Farrow),  you'd think she would seem happier. 

Right. She had a scowl on her face during that entire segment. And then she asked if his reporting would change the views of women who support Trump, which to me is a silly question with an obvious answer.

[blondiec0332]

3 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

And then she asked if his reporting would change the views of women who support Trump, which to me is a silly question with an obvious answer.

He could have asked her if they changed her views.

[imjagain]

Will they be bringing in Yvette Nicole Brown and Sherri to do all the silly segments?  

Edited February 16, 2018 by imjagain

[Apprentice79]

4 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Right. She had a scowl on her face during that entire segment. And then she asked if his reporting would change the views of women who support Trump, which to me is a silly question with an obvious answer.

She was not happy that he was there.   She was trying to trick him into giving an answer that seemed bias against Trump.  He was very diplomatic and told her that it was not his job to change minds, but, to inform the public. She is a nasty piece of work..

[blondiec0332]

19 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

She was not happy that he was there.   She was trying to trick him into giving an answer that seemed bias against Trump.  He was very diplomatic and told her that it was not his job to change minds, but, to inform the public. She is a nasty piece of work..

She is always trying to play Gotcha with someone.

[Tanichka]

34 minutes ago, fishsanwitt said:

The gun debate. So useless. Unless the government does something, it's, unfortunately, rinse and repeat. Very sad.

I love Ronan Farrow. So nice to see him. He is doing such amazing work. 

I think Paula was going on about Jen/Brad because Whoopi almost forgot to introduce her at the beginning of the show!

Useless, indeed.  More of a cultural thing, IMO

Something just seems a little off regarding Ronan.

1 hour ago, athousandclowns said:

It would be " sport" if the animals had a weapon too. When someone ( a surgeon neighbour ) paid thousands of dollars to be flown to exotic locations to kill tigers etc. It is not sport. No consumping of meat... Just heads on a wall.   

I don’t see how killing can be called sport, anyway.

[Apprentice79]

Just now, blondiec0332 said:

She is always trying to play Gotcha with someone.

She is so transparent.  She is not as smart as she believes she is, it is why she is so frustrated and is always dour.. She walks out with a gloomy expression, every morning. She needs to realize that she is not on the show to lecture anybody.  She is there to share her views, on topics, whether it is politics, sex, children, the Kardashians, e.tc...People are not just liberals and conservatives. I would hope that people are more multifaceted in her world.

[blondiec0332]

4 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I would hope that people are more multifaceted in her world.

Well she seems to be friends with everyone so one would think she is being exposed to different viewpoints.  I wonder if her and Clay Aiken ever talk politics.  He ran as a Democrat for office in North Carolina right?