OnceSane February 8, 2018 Share February 8, 2018 Quote With the Hawaii trip fast approaching, Whitney prepares for the 5K; Whitney and Heather visit Buddy in rehab, and he tells the life and death story of how he got there; Whitney invites Buddy to Hawaii, but he may not make it out of rehab in time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/
Dot February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 The only 2 of Twit's barnacles that we know actually made it to Hawaii are Tal the Poodle & Donna the Caretaker. Twit pictured both on her FB page during filming. It's hard to believe that Heather wasn't along, but strange she didn't appear in Twit's photos & videos. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4042724
VIOLETDL February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 Whoever it is that gets a reality check here, It wont make a difference WHITNEY. A friend of mine that is a bookie in Vegas said there is a POPULAR{!} betting pool on when Whitney will Reach 600 lbs/Become bedridden/ Die. Three different catagories on her imminent decline. Sad. also GROSS. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4043414
TurtlePower February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 She invites a newly sober person to Hawaii? With all the temptations that exist on a vacation? He needs to stay in a sober living community before he gets back out there. I hope he doesn't make it out on time! The only way that could work is if their whole trip is free of alcohol and they're staying in some kind of sober villa or hotel. Gosh she's dense. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4044107
Dot February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, TurtlePower said: She invites a newly sober person to Hawaii? With all the temptations that exist on a vacation? He needs to stay in a sober living community before he gets back out there. I hope he doesn't make it out on time! The only way that could work is if their whole trip is free of alcohol and they're staying in some kind of sober villa or hotel. Gosh she's dense. I thought that about his going on the cruise, too. The last place a recovering drunk needs to be is trapped in a space where he can't escape from being around 24-hr boozing. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4044236
Thrifty February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, VIOLETDL said: Whoever it is that gets a reality check here, It wont make a difference WHITNEY. A friend of mine that is a bookie in Vegas said there is a POPULAR{!} betting pool on when Whitney will Reach 600 lbs/Become bedridden/ Die. Three different catagories on her imminent decline. Sad. also GROSS. I don't gamble, but I think I want a piece of that action. I wouldn't put money on the death bet though. That's really hard to predict. Having watched enough documentaries on these super-duper-mega-obese types, they seem to live surprisingly long. Of course, I could just be a victim of survivorship bias. Nobody would make a documentary about a person who died of extreme weight. Well maybe that one guy on Guam, but it wasn't even his weight that killed him. It was a drug overdose. Edited February 9, 2018 by Thrifty 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4044277
Brooks February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 Maybe Buddy is the 4th person on the cruise (instead of Heather) and the mystery 5th is his AA sponsor. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4044420
ClareWalks February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 I think we know Buddy goes on the cruise, there are pics of him there in the Social Media thread :) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4044453
Dot February 9, 2018 Share February 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Brooks said: Maybe Buddy is the 4th person on the cruise (instead of Heather) and the mystery 5th is his AA sponsor. You're confusing Twit-sponsored Carribean cruise in Dec with TLC "Glenn"-paid Hawaii vacation. Buddy went on the cruise. We don't know yet whether or not he went to Hawaii as one of the Fab Five. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4044478
VIOLETDL February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 HE WENT TO 28 DAY REHAB. WHICH MEANS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF BEING SOBER. 28 day rehab is a Joke. 6 months to two years is more like it. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046645
Dot February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, VIOLETDL said: HE WENT TO 28 DAY REHAB. WHICH MEANS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF BEING SOBER. 28 day rehab is a Joke. 6 months to two years is more like it. 28 days, huh? Well, then, he's certainly prepared himself adequately to counsel other druggies/drunks. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046869
LordOfLotion February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, VIOLETDL said: HE WENT TO 28 DAY REHAB. WHICH MEANS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF BEING SOBER. 28 day rehab is a Joke. 6 months to two years is more like it. Then so many of them relapse. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046870
AZChristian February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Dot said: 28 days, huh? Well, then, he's certainly prepared himself adequately to counsel other druggies/drunks. He seems to have put as much planning, studying and effort into being a drug counselor as Twitney has put into her professional dance career. In the evangelical Christian world, the description of that level of preparation is "Name it and claim it." People like this bunch are why millennials are given a bad name. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046879
Dot February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, AZChristian said: Quote People like this bunch are why millennials are given a bad name. Yep. Those of us who grew up in the 1950s have always gotten a bad rap as the do-little generation, but at least we weren't whiny, overly privileged & needing a trophy for everything we did. *cough* museum dance *cough* 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046892
aliya February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, LordOfLotion said: Then so many of them relapse. 1 hour ago, VIOLETDL said: HE WENT TO 28 DAY REHAB. WHICH MEANS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF BEING SOBER. 28 day rehab is a Joke. 6 months to two years is more like it. Aren't (isn't?) 28-30 days about all most insurance plans will pay for rehab (or even mental health issues)? You have to continue to do the work when released, but I think a month in-patient is about all you get most of the time. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046950
LordOfLotion February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, aliya said: Aren't (isn't?) 28-30 days about all most insurance plans will pay for rehab (or even mental health issues)? You have to continue to do the work when released, but I think a month in-patient is about all you get most of the time. 30 days inpatient for drugs or mental health used to be pretty standard. For some the addiction coverage has gotten to a point where they will only hold them until they've sobered up and are past any physical danger, then they get released into the wild if they're not suicidal. Then they were supposed to get therapy as outpatient. I was observing a habitual relapser who was being dealt with like this with his insurance, but the facility director told me this was getting to be a common thing with insurance and addiction coverage. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4046978
AZChristian February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, LordOfLotion said: 30 days inpatient for drugs or mental health used to be pretty standard. For some the addiction coverage has gotten to a point where they will only hold them until they've sobered up and are past any physical danger, then they get released into the wild if they're not suicidal. Then they were supposed to get therapy as outpatient. I was observing a habitual relapser who was being dealt with like this with his insurance, but the facility director told me this was getting to be a common thing with insurance and addiction coverage. I'm not trying to be mean, but what are the chances that the BAR where Buddy worked (a) even has insurance coverage, and/or (b) it would include treatment for drug/alcoholic rehab? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047000
LordOfLotion February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 Just now, AZChristian said: I'm not trying to be mean, but what are the chances that the BAR where Buddy worked (a) even has insurance coverage, and/or (b) it would include treatment for drug/alcoholic rehab? Oh I totally agree. Someone is paying for this, but it's not insurance from his workplace. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047007
aliya February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, LordOfLotion said: Oh I totally agree. Someone is paying for this, but it's not insurance from his workplace. I thought the same thing. Although, unless he opted to pay the penalty, wasn't Obamacare still in force? Wouldn't he have to have some kind of insurance? Did Obamacare even cover addition/mental health? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047043
alabetser February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 (edited) Spoiler- We know Todd, Donna, Tal, Buddy, Hunter, Glenn, and Whitney all went to Hawaii, as they ran in the 5k/8k and their scores were recorded (talk of it over in the Social Media thread). Kind of takes the wind out of the "Will he?", but his score is there (and he walks/runs it about 40 minutes faster than Whit). Edited February 10, 2018 by OnceSane Added spoiler tags 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047050
LordOfLotion February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, aliya said: I thought the same thing. Although, unless he opted to pay the penalty, wasn't Obamacare still in force? Wouldn't he have to have some kind of insurance? Did Obamacare even cover addition/mental health? Well that's what I don't remember, and we don't know if he might have opted for the penalty if it was. I can totally see him opting out and taking the penalty though. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047059
Maggienolia February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, LordOfLotion said: Well that's what I don't remember, and we don't know if he might have opted for the penalty if it was. I can totally see him opting out and taking the penalty though. Or mom and dad paid for insurance/helped pay for?? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047227
LordOfLotion February 10, 2018 Share February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Maggienolia said: Or mom and dad paid for insurance/helped pay for?? The parents on this show need to cut the cords. Glenn got kicked in the balls for his efforts. I wonder Buddy has done to his parents as thanks. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047245
mamadrama February 11, 2018 Share February 11, 2018 (edited) On 2/9/2018 at 3:29 PM, Dot said: You're confusing Twit-sponsored Carribean cruise in Dec with TLC "Glenn"-paid Hawaii vacation. Buddy went on the cruise. We don't know yet whether or not he went to Hawaii as one of the Fab Five. I see someone else already pointed out my point about the 5K above. :-) Edited February 11, 2018 by mamadrama Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4047731
3girlsforus February 11, 2018 Share February 11, 2018 I think a more telling sign of the future of his sobriety than the time in rehab is his immediate return to his life and the destructive people around him. It appeara he’s immediate back around these people including Whitney. She is not even remotely the kind of person a recovering addict should be around. If he had really made strides in rehab and gotten good advice about staying clean, he wouldn’t still be hanging around here. For Buddy’s sake I hope the time he is spending with Whit and crew is minimal and only what is required because of the show. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4048900
Kid February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 (edited) On 2/10/2018 at 12:04 PM, LordOfLotion said: Then so many of them relapse. I know a lot of recovering alcoholics. Rehab send them to A 12 step program - whatever your Anonymous is, AA,NA, OA. They are supposed to do 90 meetings in 90 days after leaving rehab. The hope is, once they do that they will make the program and the recovery a lifetime commitment. And this is why Buddy does not need distractions especially one that’s an addict herself. The only difference between her and Buddy is that her primary addiction is food. Edited February 13, 2018 by Kid 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4055436
John M February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 (edited) On 2/10/2018 at 1:01 PM, AZChristian said: I'm not trying to be mean, but what are the chances that the BAR where Buddy worked (a) even has insurance coverage, and/or (b) it would include treatment for drug/alcoholic rehab? Depends on the bar, some companies own enough bars that they are surprisingly corporate. I know a bartender that if you just went up to the bar you would probably think he was just a disposable bartender but he is actually the manager pulling down 6 figures, health insurance and a 401(k). I mean of course that probably isn't Buddy who is a lazy addict but I kind of hate it how people look down on people working in the service industry, some of those people you might think are just slinging drinks for tips have surprisingly lucrative careers. Edited February 13, 2018 by John M 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4055484
Ketzel February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Kid said: The only difference between her and Buddy is that her primary addiction is food. Or, to be more precise, junk food. I've never seen her binge out on broccoli and oatmeal. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4055644
LivinLovinLife February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 It's of no consequence, but the promo for Heather and Whitney going to visit Buddy has been changed. It used to be Whitney saying it's been a year since they had seen sober Buddy. Now it's Heather stating it's been a long time since they've seen a sober Buddy. I wonder why. Was Whitney catching flack for not noticing that her boo-bear was on a downward spiral? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4055648
John M February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, Ketzel said: Or, to be more precise, junk food. I've never seen her binge out on broccoli and oatmeal. Apparently in Whit's book she admitted to having a drinking problem when she lived in Korea and in the first season her bedroom was littered with empty alcohol bottles. Given her weight, general laziness and history of alcohol abuse I would honestly be surprised if she didn't have a drinking problem and that's why she didn't notice Buddy's spiral. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4055768
Kid February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, John M said: Apparently in Whit's book she admitted to having a drinking problem when she lived in Korea and in the first season her bedroom was littered with empty alcohol bottles. Given her weight, general laziness and history of alcohol abuse I would honestly be surprised if she didn't have a drinking problem and that's why she didn't notice Buddy's spiral. Because of the root of it is all addiction - using something to shut down feelings. Substance doesn’t matter. It’s the means to the end. When you stop using one substance, you revert to another one to get the fix. And I suspect food was her original addiction because she had an eating disorder when she was very young which was bulimia. It is probably the only reason she was thin at that time. And, newly sober, Buddy needs to stay away if he hopes to stay clean. By the way, I didn’t know that rehab centers allowed visitors. Especially visitors that are not family. But maybe I’m wrong. So I have a feeling this trip of is TLC arranged, and if so, I’m surprise the rehab center went along with it. Maybe he was already out and they were acting like he was still there. Edited February 13, 2018 by Kid 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056380
SunnyBeBe February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Kid said: Because of the root of it is all addiction - using something to shut down feelings. Substance doesn’t matter. It’s the means to the end. When you stop using one substance, you revert to another one to get the fix. And I suspect food was her original addiction because she had an eating disorder when she was very young which was bulimia. It is probably the only reason she was thin at that time. And, newly sober, Buddy needs to stay away if he hopes to stay clean. By the way, I didn’t know that rehab centers allowed visitors. Especially visitors that are not family. But maybe I’m wrong. So I have a feeling this trip of is TLC arranged, and if so, I’m surprise the rehab center went along with it. Maybe he was already out and they were acting like he was still there. I have a family member who went twice to rehab where I think this facility is. I'll look closely tonight, because they may not reveal the name. I won't site the name, but, it's located near a beach. If that is the same one, they do allow visitors on Sundays. It's been awhile ago, but, you did have to be family to visit, though, my 2nd cousin was welcomed and no one asked for proof, only you did have to call and get on list a week in advance. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056530
aliya February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) Gosh, can she get anymore vulgar in mixed company? And yes, this hippie girl is officially an old lady. I find her repellent. There is no sense of what is private or shared only amongst those in the delivery room. Edited February 14, 2018 by aliya 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056640
John M February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Whit is in her early 30s and she is already talking sperm donor? Is she just admitting to giving up on being in a relationship? It's "jogging"? Tal is casually strolling backwards while he has a conversation and Whit thinks she is jogging? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056641
sainte-chapelle February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) Lol at Heather and Tal saying "wow look at you go I can't keep up" My arch hurts, setting up a fake injury eh Whit? Edited February 14, 2018 by sainte-chapelle 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056647
MegD February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Team Todd! for turning her down on donations. Because you know that would end badly. We're already stripping in public. And whining about her "hurt" toe. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056648
John M February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Oh my god put your shirt on Whitney, what is wrong with you? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056651
John M February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) Is Whit wearing a fork necklace? Yes we get it, you are fat as shit because you eat too much, do you think you are being clever somehow? Oh cool, erect Whit nipple, just what I needed: Edited February 14, 2018 by John M 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056669
spankydoll February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said: I have a family member who went twice to rehab where I think this facility is. I'll look closely tonight, because they may not reveal the name. I won't site the name, but, it's located near a beach. If that is the same one, they do allow visitors on Sundays. It's been awhile ago, but, you did have to be family to visit, though, my 2nd cousin was welcomed and no one asked for proof, only you did have to call and get on list a week in advance. When my sister was in rehab they had family meetings and counseling 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056681
PityFree February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) Dear god she’s walking funny because of her chub rub rash. Edited February 14, 2018 by PityFree 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056683
aliya February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 I understand Babs (sadly). I remember going to a placement office and they wanted to send me on an interviews at the Capitol (yeah, that one). I demurred - I don't have on stockings! They still sent me, but I felt very out of place. I'm not sure if I had my white gloves or not. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056684
John M February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 She has a painful vagina rash from walking 3 miles? Fabulous life indeed. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056688
sainte-chapelle February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Ok I take a folder filed by date when I travel that contains pre purchased tickets, itinerary, directions etc .....maybe I am a weirdo but I like to know where I am going and ensure I get the best out of my experiences abroad. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056697
PityFree February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) If it is so stressful for you to go on a free trip to Hawaii the solution is very easy: don’t go, Whitney. ETA: I actually really love the Hawaii binder. I love being organized and I love planning things. Edited February 14, 2018 by PityFree 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056698
John M February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 You aren't obligated to drink in front of Buddy, if you care about him so much just don't drink in front of him. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056701
aliya February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, sainte-chapelle said: Ok I take a folder filed by date when I travel that contains pre purchased tickets, itinerary, directions etc .....maybe I am a weirdo but I like to know where I am going and ensure I get the best out of my experiences abroad. I don't have to be going abroad to need my trip to be organized like that. Though I admit I never copied off the room layouts. Some people just don't appreciate organization. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056705
Donut Bear February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 What does she have to be stressed about? 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056708
kar328 February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sainte-chapelle said: Ok I take a folder filed by date when I travel that contains pre purchased tickets, itinerary, directions etc .....maybe I am a weirdo but I like to know where I am going and ensure I get the best out of my experiences abroad. I do too. I don’t want to waste time on my vacation looking for things to do or see. And if I want to skip something, then I do. I don’t use a binder like that, just a folder. Edited February 14, 2018 by kar328 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056717
John M February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Buddy is in rehab and Whit is worried about Heather? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056728
PityFree February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Heather and Whitney: skin tight leggings are not pants. Put on some clothes, both of you. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/66543-s05e07-a-sobering-reality/#findComment-4056729
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