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ScoobieDoobs

ScoobieDoobs

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Oh man, Rach, you were on freakin' fire tonite!  Rachel's rant on Pruitt was awesome & an absolute must see!  I am incredulous & furious over Pruitt's blatant corruption & what he is doing to the EPA & why he is still in this job.  Clearly, so is Rach.  Thank you so much for everything you said about him tonite, Rach.  Wow, the connection Rachel made between Pruitt & Carl Icahn was fascinating.  Bet nobody else in media has gone there.  Well done, Rach!

And btw, Jeez, that wall behind Rachel is getting enormous.  Guess she was getting it ready to add Pruitt there.  Not yet, Rach, but hopefully soon, eh?

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jjj
jjj

Oh, Rachel.  Our hearts are breaking with yours.  When Rachel Maddow bursts into tears on the show -- well, this is a very new and horrifying era. 

Hanahope
Hanahope

It was such a delight to have full and complete sentences and coherent thoughts.  I weep that Hillary is not our president.

Morrigan2575
Morrigan2575

God dammit! Rachel started crying and now I'm crying. ?

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jjj

jjj

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Came here to say the same thing -- I listened to the opening block twice, and felt like I heard three times as many details the second time.  And I just like Nicolle Wallace, who has been inside a problematic White House.   (Of course, her George W. Bush administration now looks like a founding father administration in comparison.) 

I was fascinated by the Joyce Vance interview, where she explained that the Feds do not need a search warrant to confiscate electronics and other evidence at Customs.  They must have staff in Mueller's office that are just tracking travel plans and flight arrival times.  We have heard about several prominent airport searches and interviews, and there must be more that are not in the news yet. 

Also loved the levels of breaking news, one in the first half hour, then "more breaking news, but this is *new* breaking news, not the original breaking news."

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attica

attica

10 hours ago, jjj said:

We have heard about several prominent airport searches and interviews,

It must have been on Chris's show where Barbara McQuade talked about why airports are catnip for prosecutors: Passengers have only one exit from the plane (and not very many through an airport), making it easy to pull them over. Prosecutors have notice when planes are landing, so they're not sitting in a stakeout, wondering. There are good odds that the passenger will be surprised, and unable to dump anything incriminating they might be carrying. There are excellent odds that the passenger won't be armed. Plus all the less stringent search-and-seizure rules in effect in airports. Since TSA already has 'interrogation' rooms, they don't have to sit out in the lounges to talk. All in all, quite optimal.

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ScoobieDoobs

ScoobieDoobs

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Oh Rach, why-oh-why do you have to play the same Trump clips all the other MSNBC & CNN hosts have already played endlessly?  It doesn't prove any points.  It's just headache & nausea inducing & I expect more of you, Rach -- cut it out, will ya? 

It's odd cuz Rachel is the one standout who doesn't do this & yet she played such a long Trump clip tonite, I was induced to switch over (momentarily) to AC.  I beg you, Rach, please don't do that again.  Making me listen & watch him is absolute torture.  Rachel, you don't really want to torture your viewers & fans, do you?

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jjj

jjj

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Oh, man, another Rachel Maddow "A" block that I will have to rewatch and take notes to understand.  She knots together more intertwined information into 25 minutes than a crocheted edition of the New York Times.  The historical David Dennison was "a raving maniac" (yes, I have seen this term used in other newspaper coverage from 100 years ago).   Dana Boente's meteoric (up *and* down) employment history in the contemporary Prez. Dennison years ("There's a story to tell, and someday we will tell it"). 

10 hours ago, Hanahope said:

Poor Rachel has to shelve her planned episodes so many times due to 'breaking news' of the day.  Its really routine with this administration.  She did give some interesting information about Cohen, but yeah, I could use without repeating the clips everyone has.

Some days you write the news, and some days the news writes itself.

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Hanahope

Hanahope

10 hours ago, meowmommy said:

Mark Zuckerberg testifying before Congress, "sitting on a booster seat."  Warn me when you're going to make me LOL, Rachel, because my bones are old and can't handle the stress!

This alone is evidence of why people need to vote in younger congressional representatives.  as Rachel reported, some of the questions posed to Z were just 'shaking my head.'  They haven't a clue and this is why Z is able to get away with everything.

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Galloway Cave

Galloway Cave

26 minutes ago, thewhiteowl said:

Notes echoing so clearly Comey' testimony.

People like Comey, Mueller and Boente don't get to the top and have so much respect unless they were excellent investigators during their career. I knew there would be copious notes. I taught Investigations and Report Writing at my agency and it all starts with notes and accuracy. I was squeeing on my couch during that segment. And now I am wondering how Rachel got her hands on all that paperwork...

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jjj

jjj

40 minutes ago, thewhiteowl said:

That was some great stuff last night. Boente(?) Notes echoing so clearly Comey' testimony. Really interesting.

I thought I missed hearing how she got those notes, so was going to listen on the replay, but then had a power outage.  I'll catch the podcast, but thanks for confirming she did not say how they got those documents.  It was amazing to see those handwritten notes. 

11 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

People like Comey, Mueller and Boente don't get to the top and have so much respect unless they were excellent investigators during their career. I knew there would be copious notes. I taught Investigations and Report Writing at my agency and it all starts with notes and accuracy. I was squeeing on my couch during that segment. And now I am wondering how Rachel got her hands on all that paperwork...

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ktwo

31 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

People like Comey, Mueller and Boente don't get to the top and have so much respect unless they were excellent investigators during their career. I knew there would be copious notes. I taught Investigations and Report Writing at my agency and it all starts with notes and accuracy. I was squeeing on my couch during that segment. And now I am wondering how Rachel got her hands on all that paperwork...

Of course she’s not going to reveal her source, but how would it be possible for the source NOT to be Boente himself?

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Hanahope

Hanahope

39 minutes ago, thewhiteowl said:

I don't think she said exactly how the note were obtained just that they were not in any way classified documents. As I'm sure you know, she doesn't have to reveal her source.

Rachel reported that the notes were not top secret or classified.  So I think they are technically available by a FOIA request.  But yeah, probably Boente provided them personally, or someone close to him.

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ahisma

ahisma

10 hours ago, Galloway Cave said:

And now I am wondering how Rachel got her hands on all that paperwork...

I'm not at all surprised at the notes surfacing on the eve of Comey's book coming out. He's going to be doing a full book promotion tour. Information coming out that backs his story—it could come from a friend, it could come from a colleague. (Not that it's a bad thing at all; an alternate source that backs up a prior story is good information. And I don't begrudge him the indirect book promo.)

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jjj

jjj

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What was that vague, very unsettling set of comments that Rachel made at the very end of the "A" block?  "Drink lots of water, eat your Wheaties, get a lots of sleep, check in with your neighbors," because when government is not going well, "it is TIME TO PAY ATTENTION".  This after going through selections from the Comey book and the chilling Fox News gallery of clips (too much to stomach in 60 seconds).  I feel like she was giving a deep and meaningful subtext, and am not sure what major threat she felt suddenly has become more imminent. 

Of course Rachel got the Comey book.  I've seen it waved around all day, and would have been surprised if she did *not* have a copy! 

I really like the recent conversations (including tonight's) between Rachel and Nicolle Wallace.  And Nicolle was very informative, in an apparently factual manner, about how they handled the Scooter Libby charges in the Bush/Cheney White House. 

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Hanahope

Hanahope

I don't get all the slobbering over Comey and his book.  So he refused loyalty to trump, firing Comey for his bad handling of the Hillary emails was about the only thing I agreed with trump on (though the 'bad handling' probably has different reasons).  

I appreciated the background information on Scooter Libby and agree that its trump looking to float how the pardon power works for someone who lied to the FBI and obstructed justice.

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BuckeyeLou

BuckeyeLou

11 hours ago, jjj said:

Even more skeery on the rewatch:  "check in with your friends, your kids, and your parents -- make a plan. Stay sober, stay calm" 

Yikes, I don't like being told to stay calm.  What was that? 

Yes, when Rachel said THAT, I was like What the Heck?  What was she suggesting?  That statement Freaked me out.  Does she think Trump is taking us to War?   A war in Syria would divert attention away from the Mueller probe & Comey's book.  It will be interesting to see Rachel interview Mr. Comey...he's making the rounds of all the shows. 

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jjj

jjj

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At least we got to see Rachel before the speech.  If Rachel had not been on the show tonight, I would have assumed she had initiated her own version of The Plan in the woods of Maine with her dogs and her parents and her Susan.  But Rachel's remarks after the speech -- about how the military strikes by a chaotic presidency might be perceived as a distraction -- those were very disturbing remarks.  Rachel really is upset.  And on top of last night's comments (above), I wonder what she is expecting.  She is talking to us in code, but seems to think she needs to be warning us. 

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TexasGal

TexasGal

Ugh, ok I realize I’m just being grumpy and that MSNBC has to cover the strikes - but given how Rachel led with the wag the dog scenario I hate that they are know doing exactly what he wants.  I don’t want to hear endless speculation about the air strikes.  I want to hear more about Cohen lying about Budapest.  Even if that is also just endless speculation lol.

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jjj

jjj

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13 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Ugh, ok I realize I’m just being grumpy and that MSNBC has to cover the strikes - but given how Rachel led with the wag the dog scenario I hate that they are know doing exactly what he wants.  I don’t want to hear endless speculation about the air strikes.  I want to hear more about Cohen lying about Budapest.  Even if that is also just endless speculation lol.

Completely agree, especially as they rerun the Friday news shows on Saturday afternoon/evening.  I was hoping to see Rachel, and hear her take on all these Cohen-related events today. 

(I think Cohen is lying about Prague, not Budapest. But who knows, maybe next week...)

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jjj

jjj

Rachel reading out loud the transcript of the Cohen court hearing today was satisfying and hilarious.  But what I really want to see (would go behind a paywall to see) is Rachel reading it out loud *for the first time*, because you know it had to be an amazing set of reactions.  "WHAT?  There's another lawyer popping up? For the news organizations, for *us*?"  And then describing the reaction when Hannity's name was said out loud.  I also would pay to see footage of the Rachel team reacting to that.  I mean, *Hannity*, her competitor in the time slot!!!  (Maybe not much longer?)  This show's podcast is getting saved on several devices.

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ScoobieDoobs

ScoobieDoobs

Oh Rach, you really, really, really seemed to be enjoying the reveal of Hannity as Cohen's client!  Heh, heh, heh -- and I so enjoyed watching you enjoy it, Rach.

Eh, by now I am so damn sick of Comey & his aw-gee-shucks-I-got-no-regrets-and-I-made-no-mistakes crap.  He'll be everywhere by the time Rach gets to him -- even with the yentas on the View.  Don't be soft with him, Rach, like you were with Smellyanne Conway!  Stephanopoulos was kinda tough on him about Hillary.  I expect Rachel to magnify that at least a dozen times over.  Seriously, I will be very upset with Rachel if she's soft with him.

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ScoobieDoobs

ScoobieDoobs

So did Cohen charge Hannity billable hours for that Fox on air convo between 'em?  Oh Rach, ya kill me sometimes!  Rachel's hand movements were making me LMAO.  I'm wondering if Rach is particularly enjoying this cuz he's her direct competition.  Ah, it's just all delish, no matter how ya cut it.  Hopefully, there's more to this, as Stormy's lawyer seems so sure of.  I really luv seeing Rach so happily stomp all over Hannity.  Much more fun than hearing her tell us to stay calm, like she did last week.  Hated that shit.

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izabella

izabella

1 hour ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Hopefully, there's more to this, as Stormy's lawyer seems so sure of.

It seems like there has to be more to it.  If there were only some conversations, there wouldn't be any files in the FBI's hands to claim attorney-client privilege.  Whatever it is, it has to be shady because Cohen only does shady things for shady people involving payoffs.

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absolutelyido

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8 hours ago, izabella said:

It seems like there has to be more to it.  If there were only some conversations, there wouldn't be any files in the FBI's hands to claim attorney-client privilege.  Whatever it is, it has to be shady because Cohen only does shady things for shady people involving payoffs.

Cohen is said to have taped phone calls, so there may be tapes of calls with Hannity that he is trying to protect.

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irisheyes

irisheyes

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Chris Hayes is moving on, so I’m confident Rach will too. The A block will be Barbara Bush, but the rest of the show can still be current news.  Especially since we just found out Pompeo chatted with Kim Jong.  Really??? ?

And there’s no way she’s giving up Comey.  She’s been crossing the days off since it was scheduled. 

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ScoobieDoobs

ScoobieDoobs

2 minutes ago, izabella said:

And what is the "story" anyway?  A former First Lady and mother of a POTUS dies at 92 surrounded by her enormous family.  I don't think that warrants endless coverage.

You know, I just don't get this shtick.  Is this important to discuss?  Absolutely.  But to throw aside discussion of ANYTHING ELSE?  And for how long?  It's just plain irresponsible.  And particularly now, when Rachel is pretty much saying every nite what a crazy/busy news nite it always seems to be.  Hopefully, this bullshit routine just goes on for tonite -- but it could last for days.  

I wonder if their ratings drop cuz I know I'm out.  I really don't give a shit about knowing every facet of Barbara Bush's life.  I wanna see discusion of today's Trump bullshit.  If they're not gonna provide that, then I'm out.

Calvada

Calvada

I think Rachel will be brief on Barbara Bush - most likely using her death to compare/contrast the GOP then and now.  

Rachel seemed a bit ticked off that the Comey book leaked a full week before her interview, but I think that's a good thing.  Get it out there, get past the "shocking" revelations, and get down to the nitty gritty.  I too hope Rachel doesn't let Comey get away with the aw shucks type of persona he is presenting and asks some hard questions about his actions during the 2016 campaign, stuff about McCabe, and the rest of it.  

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