Spoilers And Shockers

[DisneyBoy]

Hell, Ben even strangled her! Or are we supposed to have forgotten that?

[methodwriter85]

On 3/11/2022 at 12:13 AM, boes said:

Leo was working for Sonny at Titan and set him up on false sexual harassment charges, took him to court, looking for a payout.  Then he tried to force Sonny to marry him, attacked Will, fell when they were fighting and hit his head.  Will and Sonny rolled him up in a rug and dumped the body, but unfortunately he didn't die.  He came back to town and tried to blackmail them again.  Wah, rinse, repeat.  I know I'm leaving some stuff out.

He's earned their hate honestly.

It's still bizarre to me how the show basically tries to treat Leo like this hot to trot young thing, but he's very obviously in his 40's.

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by methodwriter85

[buffynut]

14 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Looks like Craig vs Kayla might actually play out onscreen unlike her and Dr. Synder.

 

I'm all for it tbh.

I'm all for it too.  It's good to have a different story happening, even if it's one re-Ron dug up from the past.  Better Craig vs Kayla version 2, than Dimera/Titan version 25.

[peachmangosteen]

11 hours ago, boes said:

I didn't see that but wasn't it a fantasy?  Unlike the hard-hitting, factually based, documentary-style show we watch every day, I mean.

The Peacock series wasn't a fantasy but the Christmas move was.

6 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

It's still bizarre to me how the show basically tries to treat Leo like this hot to trot young thing, but he's very obviously in his 40's.

The actor is 45 and he looks every bit of it. I get so much second hand embarrassment when he's referred to as young or, even worse, a 'kid' like John said. Like come on! He's only 14 years younger than the Craig actor lol.

[buffynut]

1 hour ago, buffynut said:

I'm all for it too.  It's good to have a different story happening, even if it's one re-Ron dug up from the past.  Better Craig vs Kayla version 2, than Dimera/Titan version 25.

Duh.  Just realized it wasn't Craig vs Kayla, but Craig vs Mike in version one.  So not even a true repeat.   And fits for the Craig character. 

 

6 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

It's still bizarre to me how the show basically tries to treat Leo like this hot to trot young thing, but he's very obviously in his 40's.

He does look younger than Craig, but so much older than Will or Sonny.

[CanaryFan98]

The best story this show has to offer is the TR/Lani/Eli one. Probably because no devil hijinks are involved and it seems soapy. 

 

I know its not saying much on this show but still..

[brisbydog]

42 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

The best story this show has to offer is the TR/Lani/Eli one. Probably because no devil hijinks are involved and it seems soapy. 

 

I know its not saying much on this show but still..

Yeah but Lani is so boring and Jackee is awful 

[brisbydog]

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Yeah but Lani is so boring and Jackee is awful 

I'm really talking mostly about TR who yes I'm supposed to hate and yet I like him more than Lani/Paulina tbh.

[peachmangosteen]

I don't like TR because I don't buy that he's a good guy now but I think the actor is fantastic and it's a shame he's not playing a long-term viable character.

[tribeca]

If TR kills my sweet hot Eli I am done with him.  

[WendyCR72]

52 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I don't like TR because I don't buy that he's a good guy now but I think the actor is fantastic and it's a shame he's not playing a long-term viable character.

He had a long-term role on All My Children (ironically, time slot competitor to Days) in the '90s as cop Derek Frye, so William Christian has soap cred.

[DisneyBoy]

23 minutes ago, tribeca said:

If TR kills my sweet hot Eli I am done with him.  

Same. Eli has suffered enough.

*eyes Lani*

[RedElf]

Chandler has a day job.

 

[Kitty Redstone]

What the hell is a data visualization specialist?  I also don't know what a health care analytics company is, but it sounds like one of those horrible companies in the byzantine US healthcare system that denies benefits to people because of reasons.

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

What the hell is a data visualization specialist?  I also don't know what a health care analytics company is, but it sounds like one of those horrible companies in the byzantine US healthcare system that denies benefits to people because of reasons.

"Data visualization specialists translate complex statistics and data so that subject matter experts and business users can better understand them. They help companies make data-informed decisions by presenting data in innovative ways."

"Healthcare analytics software helps deliver clinical insights into patient care and personalize medicines while reducing operating costs for healthcare providers, in addition to other use cases. There are hundreds of companies offering analytics products and solutions for healthcare organizations."

It all still makes no sense to me lol.

Doesn't Martha Madison also have a day job as like a restaurant manager or something? And Judi Evans does or used to like work in a funeral home, I think. I wonder if any other Days actors have day jobs?

[CanaryFan98]

11 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

What the hell is a data visualization specialist?  I also don't know what a health care analytics company is, but it sounds like one of those horrible companies in the byzantine US healthcare system that denies benefits to people because of reasons.

That's pretty much what it is given my current job I can't go into any further details in a public forum. That being said I respect actors who don't think they're above finding a regular job to make ends meet. So good for Chandler(now I'm curious which company this is).

Which is why I never understood why people mocked Geoffrey Owens(Elvin on the Cosby Show) for taking the job at Trader Joe's because of their health insurance. 

Edited March 13, 2022 by CanaryFan98

[CanaryFan98]

18 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I don't like TR because I don't buy that he's a good guy now but I think the actor is fantastic and it's a shame he's not playing a long-term viable character.

I can see that but I also know how soaps write good guys currently and I don't think people would find this character nearly as interesting if they had gone that route. 

 

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, CanaryFan98 said:

That's pretty much what it is given my current job I can't go into any further details in a public forum. That being said I respect actors who don't think they're above finding a regular job to make ends meet. So good for Chandler(now I'm curious which company this is).

Which is why I never understood why people mocked Geoffrey Owens(Elvin on the Cosby Show) for taking the job at Trader Joe's because of their health insurance. 

It was a certain channel that was mocking him  and it was not the general population. 

[methodwriter85]

 

3 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

That's pretty much what it is given my current job I can't go into any further details in a public forum. That being said I respect actors who don't think they're above finding a regular job to make ends meet. So good for Chandler(now I'm curious which company this is).

Which is why I never understood why people mocked Geoffrey Owens(Elvin on the Cosby Show) for taking the job at Trader Joe's because of their health insurance. 

I felt bad for him. He was a minor character in a sitcom that got cancelled 30 years ago. Owens was never going to be set for life on that, especially when the show started getting yanked from re-runs. People acted like he had blown away a Friends-level fortune or something. Anyways as for day jobs, I think Billy was a set manager or similar before he got the part of Chad.

 

[Kitty Redstone]

10 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

"Healthcare analytics software helps deliver clinical insights into patient care and personalize medicines while reducing operating costs for healthcare providers, in addition to other use cases. There are hundreds of companies offering analytics products and solutions for healthcare organizations."

Yeah, so a company that denies services/benefits to people in order to cut costs/increase profits for themselves. 

 

6 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

That's pretty much what it is given my current job I can't go into any further details in a public forum. That being said I respect actors who don't think they're above finding a regular job to make ends meet. So good for Chandler(now I'm curious which company this is).

Which is why I never understood why people mocked Geoffrey Owens(Elvin on the Cosby Show) for taking the job at Trader Joe's because of their health insurance. 

I have no problem with actors having day jobs - people do what they gotta do to eat.  I'm self-employed and my income fluctuates wildly, so I understand the need for steady income.  However, knowing that someone I like has a job that sees people in the abstract, and may make decisions that have life-altering consequences for those people, it's a bummer.  I've been on the receiving end of one of those cost cutting decisions and it took months of stress and wrangling to get my insurance company to cover the expense.  I wouldn't wish the experience on anyone.

[Guncle Adam]

I think data visualization means translating stats into pictures and infographics. 
 

I look forward to a day when he doesn't need the day job because Will and Sonny are back on contract. 
 

PS: Zach Tinker is one of the best recasts I've ever seen. 

Edited March 14, 2022 by ajs1615
Because contact and contract are different words

[Pearson80]

3 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

Yeah, so a company that denies services/benefits to people in order to cut costs/increase profits for themselves. 

 

I have no problem with actors having day jobs - people do what they gotta do to eat.  I'm self-employed and my income fluctuates wildly, so I understand the need for steady income.  However, knowing that someone I like has a job that sees people in the abstract, and may make decisions that have life-altering consequences for those people, it's a bummer.  I've been on the receiving end of one of those cost cutting decisions and it took months of stress and wrangling to get my insurance company to cover the expense.  I wouldn't wish the experience on anyone.

Plus, it is very realistic of Chandler to realize that not every actor in Hollywood will become an A-lister making $20 million dollars per movie.. LA is full of actors who are trying to be the next big thing.

I am so sorry you had to go through  that and I am happy that you were lucky that your situation got resolved. Insurance companies are just heartless and I will leave it at that since it would be off-topic to go further.

[Retired at last]

I did read on Celebrity Dirty Laundry (a lot of speculation, though) that TR is going to be the one who shoots Eli in the head during a drug deal gone bad. Valerie comes out and since LA is leaving, it looks like they may kill him (or maybe send him to a recovery center for a long time).

Also read that Johnny blacks out when the devil TEMPORARILY jumps into Belle, but then goes back to Johnny, once people are thinking it is Belle, who will even go through an exorcism to get rid of the demon that isn't even there. Chad realizes that it was not the real EJ who kissed Abby, but Kate tries to convince him to hold on to the secret, even though Chad wants to rescind his false story. (Hey - have we even seen anything about Jan and Shawn's baby in the last few months? Why doesn't the devil just take that baby?)

Kayla is ordered to fire Marlena; Leo influences Craig to go for the Chief of everything  when Kayla doesn't want to fire her; Chad tries to set up Leo by getting in bed with him while the others try to get Craig to see them (which we know won't work); Maggie is told that because of the mystery drug, SaRenee may be permanent, which leaves Xander to try to make whoever she is now fall in love with him; no idea what Gwen will do to get him back.  I did see a picture that Nancy is back to the red hair. Oh, and Allie is thinking about her feelings for Chanel, which will leave Trippy available for cougar pouncing.

Disgusted to still see the Rafe/Nicole/Ava mess going on. 

That's all I remember.

 

[DisneyBoy]

I did read on Celebrity Dirty Laundry (a lot of speculation, though) that TR is going to be the one who shoots Eli in the head during a drug deal gone bad. Valerie comes out and since LA is leaving, it looks like they may kill him (or maybe send him to a recovery center for a long time).

Awww geeez. Leave his pretty head alone!

Poor Eli. He's been dragged down by Lani from day one. Imagine how much better off he'd have been with Gabi. Maybe they wouldn't have kept writing her as a villain if her BF was a cop.

I guess getting shot in the head is better than eternity shackled to Lani though.

This show is so bonkers now....

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, Retired at last said:

I did read on Celebrity Dirty Laundry (a lot of speculation, though) that TR is going to be the one who shoots Eli in the head during a drug deal gone bad. Valerie comes out and since LA is leaving, it looks like they may kill him (or maybe send him to a recovery center for a long time).

 

That would be awful! What purpose does it serve to kill Eli off?  Why not give him and Lani a happily ever after with their twins.  Ron is just the worst..

 Poor Valerie, first she lost David and now she will lose her only son with him. Horton men do not fare well on this show.. 

Edited March 14, 2022 by Pearson80

[RedElf]

1 hour ago, Pearson80 said:

Horton men do not fare well on this show..

Unless they're never seen, like Bill.

[Kitty Redstone]

Thank you, @Pearson80!  And I agree.

 

18 hours ago, ajs1615 said:

PS: Zach Tinker is one of the best recasts I've ever seen. 

Yes!  He's a wonderful recast.  Days has gotten lucky with him, CB/Johnny and RB/Chanel.

[CanaryFan98]

5 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I did read on Celebrity Dirty Laundry (a lot of speculation, though) that TR is going to be the one who shoots Eli in the head during a drug deal gone bad. Valerie comes out and since LA is leaving, it looks like they may kill him (or maybe send him to a recovery center for a long time).

Awww geeez. Leave his pretty head alone!

Poor Eli. He's been dragged down by Lani from day one. Imagine how much better off he'd have been with Gabi. Maybe they wouldn't have kept writing her as a villain if her BF was a cop.

I guess getting shot in the head is better than eternity shackled to Lani though.

This show is so bonkers now....

Well Gabi's brother is a cop and that hasn't changed her so.. Eli/Gabi are both pretty people but they didn't exactly have sparky chem to me either.  Course I also am not enthralled by Lani either so..

However I do think he would've been better with a far edgier love interest.

I strangely think he and Nicole could've looked good together though.

3 hours ago, RedElf said:

Unless they're never seen, like Bill.

Bill is dead so probably not. However yes an offscreen Horton male is the way to go.

5 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

That would be awful! What purpose does it serve to kill Eli off?  Why not give him and Lani a happily ever after with their twins.  Ron is just the worst..

 Poor Valerie, first she lost David and now she will lose her only son with him. Horton men do not fare well on this show.. 

Is Sal leaving though? I mean if she was then yes just give them an HEA rather than kill him off(if that's what they're doing) or just recast Eli. 

I do wonder who they would pair her with if Eli is gone? She's not related to most of Salem so that works in her favor. I'm just glad JJ isn't on the show anymore because I would hate that revisit.

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

This show is so bonkers now....

I love it! I wish they'd go further with it personally. Just go full Passions lol.

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I love it! I wish they'd go further with it personally. Just go full Passions lol.

But where is piece of shit Passions now? I really want REAL writers for this show and for it to improve. But if it goes all Passions, cancel this shit, just like the real show.

IMO, it's in cancellation territory now as it is.

[DisneyBoy]

Thank you Wendy. I really appreciate your passionate response. You put it into words better than I could. This is a sad situation.

[WendyCR72]

4 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Thank you Wendy. I really appreciate your passionate response. You put it into words better than I could. This is a sad situation.

How I wish we could resurrect the greats like Bill Bell and/or Agnes Nixon. Now all that are left are hacks. Those that are willing to write so many episodes, anyway.

As an example, new blood with General Hospital: Night Shift for its second (and final) season in 2008 under writer Sri Rao on the late lamented Soapnet was wonderful! But he was clear in that he wasn't interested in GH proper because of the commitment involved.

[peachmangosteen]

Getting someone who would write this show like it used to be written in like the 80's or whenever it is people think it was better wouldn't improve the ratings imo. The ratings for soaps aren't suddenly gonna get better so I see why NBC/Sony/whoever owns Days is just content to keep Ron. Obviously, the show must make them enough money since they keep renewing it and even giving it spin-offs.

[WendyCR72]

6 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Getting someone who would write this show like it used to be written in like the 80's or whenever it is people think it was better wouldn't improve the ratings imo. The ratings for soaps aren't suddenly gonna get better so I see why NBC/Sony/whoever owns Days is just content to keep Ron. Obviously, the show must make them enough money since they keep renewing it and even giving it spin-offs.

I don't think the '80s can be recaptured. I never said that. But better writing with a writer that takes stories seriously and not part of some farce - I think - could improve ratings.

No, the ratings will never reach the heyday of soaps. So many more choices now won't let it happen. But, IMO, better to at least try and improve a show and maybe nudge the numbers than let it completely disintegrate into campy, nonsensical bullshit, allowing Ken Corday to keep destroying something his parents worked so hard to build. As of now, there is absolutely no heart. And no stakes because another retcon or more bullshit with the "devil" would just allow for another reset, so what's the point? And romance? That died a good 20 years ago. What good is a soap with no consequences/stakes or romance?

It's a mess.

Just my take here.

[peachmangosteen]

The ratings might go up for a bit, just like they did for a minute with the devil story, but they’d almost certainly just level off again imo. I think the best soaps can hope for now if just mostly steady ratings. 

[RedElf]

Gee, Eric Martsolf must be happy to have returned to Passions.  At least, that's the way this show is heading.

[Peanut6711]

If Ron is going to rip off another soap, I'd rather he went Dark Shadows instead of Passions. Then we can just send Saranee to the past. Maybe have her get eaten by a werewolf while she's there. 

[CanaryFan98]

54 minutes ago, Peanut6711 said:

If Ron is going to rip off another soap, I'd rather he went Dark Shadows instead of Passions. Then we can just send Saranee to the past. Maybe have her get eaten by a werewolf while she's there. 

I'm really surprised that Days has never had this plot(although it probably did with Marlena)

[DisneyBoy]

We just had zombies.

 

Please don't encourage them.

[peachmangosteen]

13 hours ago, Peanut6711 said:

If Ron is going to rip off another soap, I'd rather he went Dark Shadows instead of Passions. Then we can just send Saranee to the past. Maybe have her get eaten by a werewolf while she's there. 

INTO IT!

I was just wondering the other day if any soap ever did a time travel storyline.

[Jalyn]

20 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

INTO IT!

I was just wondering the other day if any soap ever did a time travel storyline.

One Life to Live - but it was Rex and Gigi which made it immediately bad and it was Ron writing it. He had some good storylines at OLTL, they didn't ever involve Rex.

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, Jalyn said:

One Life to Live - but it was Rex and Gigi which made it immediately bad and it was Ron writing it. He had some good storylines at OLTL, they didn't ever involve Rex.

Wow, embarrassing I forgot about that. OLTL is my all-time fave! But yea, I probably just blocked it because it involved Rex lol.

[carrier76]

On 3/14/2022 at 4:47 PM, CanaryFan98 said:

Well Gabi's brother is a cop and that hasn't changed her so.. Eli/Gabi are both pretty people but they didn't exactly have sparky chem to me either.  Course I also am not enthralled by Lani either so..

However I do think he would've been better with a far edgier love interest.

I strangely think he and Nicole could've looked good together though.

Bill is dead so probably not. However yes an offscreen Horton male is the way to go.

Is Sal leaving though? I mean if she was then yes just give them an HEA rather than kill him off(if that's what they're doing) or just recast Eli. 

I do wonder who they would pair her with if Eli is gone? She's not related to most of Salem so that works in her favor. I'm just glad JJ isn't on the show anymore because I would hate that revisit.

I think the obvious answer is Rafe…. 😴

[RedElf]

16 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

We just had zombies.

 

Please don't encourage them.

There were aliens years ago.

 

[DisneyBoy]

Except they weren't really. Rex and his sister were never canonically aliens. (And that was still mocked and viewed as a stupid stunt back in the day).

Deimos and Ava's son and Nick were all canonically brought back from the grave. No dream, no hallucination. Real zombies.

 

[Peanut6711]

10 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Except they weren't really. Rex and his sister were never canonically aliens. (And that was still mocked and viewed as a stupid stunt back in the day).

Deimos and Ava's son and Nick were all canonically brought back from the grave. No dream, no hallucination. Real zombies.

Technically half the town should be zombies.  EJ, Steve, Roman, Marlena, Orpheus, Will, Ava, etc. 

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, carrier76 said:

I think the obvious answer is Rafe…. 😴

I forgot about him and honestly I wouldn't mind it. I thought the actors had chemistry and I can FF both of them. 

[tribeca]

9 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

INTO IT!

I was just wondering the other day if any soap ever did a time travel storyline.

 

 

Guiding light with Josh and reva and a painting.  I don’t know much about it but  I believe both actors hated that storyline. 

[carrier76]

1 hour ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I forgot about him and honestly I wouldn't mind it. I thought the actors had chemistry and I can FF both of them. 

Right! Absolute FF fodder!