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The Lonely Js Club: James, Jackson & Johannah

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Discussing the charges against Jana is fine, but do not post any information that reveals her address/contact information- even if said documents are public (i.e. a part of court proceedings.)

Discussing charges against Jana is NOT a jumping off point to speculate on other instances abuse/neglect etc towards the M-children or to elaborate on Josh's conviction and potential victims.  

 

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Scarlett45

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2 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

Josh Duggar's Siblings Reportedly Have Moved Out of the Family Home Amid Tension With Anna

This is possible, the Howlers had way more freedom than their older siblings did at that age, and I could see Anna milling about the TTH lamenting Josh’s innocence as aggravating. But it could all be speculation. 

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Ijustwantsomechips
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Maybe Jana needs her own thread as a token of the respect she’ll never garner as a single woman in Gothardland.  

andromeda331
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How about both hop in the plane close the door really quickly and fly off.  Abbie: "Where are we going?" JD: Cayman Islands. We're elope. And we're not coming back! Abbie: Wait we need

BitterApple
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Wow, so this is what, the fourth guy to publicly release a statement denying involvement with Jana? That must be doing wonders for her self-esteem.  These guys are starting to piss me off, though

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5 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

This is possible, the Howlers had way more freedom than their older siblings did at that age, and I could see Anna milling about the TTH lamenting Josh’s innocence as aggravating. But it could all be speculation. 

I think it's possible. It seems like all of the kidults have put some space between themselves and the TTH over the past year. 

Jill has obviously put some space between herself and the house.

Jessa is among the heaviest kool-aide drinkers, but it doesn't appear that Ben is "teaching" there anymore.

Family members have been to CA to see Jinger, but she hasn't been to the TTH in a while.

There was a reported "blowup" between Anna and Austin.

Josiah and Lauren have disappeared from SM, and they may (or may not) be spending less time at the compound.

I don't think that Anna was ever very popular among Josh's siblings. She's obviously dealing with a lot right now, and she doesn't really have the emotional tools to do that. None of the Duggars has the emotional tools to help her (or to want to help her) since the only solution that they have for any problem is to "pray more."

It wouldn't surpise me if everyone in the vicinity of the TTH wants out. It also wouldn't surprise me at all if the rumors about Anna wanting to move to TX weren't true. On the other hand, any assets the Josh and Anna own are probably under JB's control now. In order for Anna to move to TX, JB would have to agree to part with some significant cash. I think he's far more likely to sign off on all of his (male) children leaving the TTH than he is on selling property so Anna can leave.

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Scarlett45

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52 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I think it's possible. It seems like all of the kidults have put some space between themselves and the TTH over the past year. 

Jill has obviously put some space between herself and the house.

Jessa is among the heaviest kool-aide drinkers, but it doesn't appear that Ben is "teaching" there anymore.

Family members have been to CA to see Jinger, but she hasn't been to the TTH in a while.

There was a reported "blowup" between Anna and Austin.

Josiah and Lauren have disappeared from SM, and they may (or may not) be spending less time at the compound.

I don't think that Anna was ever very popular among Josh's siblings. She's obviously dealing with a lot right now, and she doesn't really have the emotional tools to do that. None of the Duggars has the emotional tools to help her (or to want to help her) since the only solution that they have for any problem is to "pray more."

It wouldn't surpise me if everyone in the vicinity of the TTH wants out. It also wouldn't surprise me at all if the rumors about Anna wanting to move to TX weren't true. On the other hand, any assets the Josh and Anna own are probably under JB's control now. In order for Anna to move to TX, JB would have to agree to part with some significant cash. I think he's far more likely to sign off on all of his (male) children leaving the TTH than he is on selling property so Anna can leave.

Your perspective makes a lot of sense. 

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lookeyloo

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Anna seems to be no prize but imagine for her to have been relatively independent in their scheme of things, with the golden child, to be relegated to dependent on her in laws and facing at least 10 years in this situation.  None of them it seems have anything but praying to get them through and well, we see how well that works.  I imagine those M children are being exposed to a lot of H***.  

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crazy8s

crazy8s

On 12/3/2022 at 10:12 AM, Scarlett45 said:

This is possible, the Howlers had way more freedom than their older siblings did at that age, and I could see Anna milling about the TTH lamenting Josh’s innocence as aggravating. But it could all be speculation. 

Interesting to think about.  The rumors of Anna moving to Texas and would JB allow that. Would JB allow Anna stay and so influence his home to the point everyone who can leave moves out?? Seems ridiculous.

Setting her up in Texas with a house and monthly cash would be better and have her under the David Waller umbrella of protection/authority.

I have found no records for any property Jason, James A, Elijah or Noah Robinson own. So most likely they are living in a Duggar llc owned place or something arranged with a like minded sweet friend, just like Jed and Jeer were at the bert and ernie house.

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

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5 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Or just not on camera. 🤷🏼‍♀️

They did a pretty good job of planning the crowd. Anna (and her kids) would have had to hide pretty good to avoid the camera(s). Who knows? Maybe they hid in the master bath. 😜

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estellasmum

estellasmum

17 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Yeah, she deactivated it several months ago. 

I always wonder if it was because of the (totally deserved) negativity, or if it was because as a woman, she couldn't be trusted with social media on her own without her headship around. (The irony of that would just be too much.)

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

25 minutes ago, estellasmum said:

I always wonder if it was because of the (totally deserved) negativity, or if it was because as a woman, she couldn't be trusted with social media on her own without her headship around. (The irony of that would just be too much.)

Her last post was the ominous "You don't know the entire story" or something like that. She never elaborated, and IIRC, she shut off comments, so no one could inquire about it, even if they wanted to.

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

On 12/4/2022 at 7:24 AM, lookeyloo said:

Anna seems to be no prize but imagine for her to have been relatively independent in their scheme of things, with the golden child, to be relegated to dependent on her in laws and facing at least 10 years in this situation.  None of them it seems have anything but praying to get them through and well, we see how well that works.  I imagine those M children are being exposed to a lot of H***.  

I think Anna stopped being independent after the Ashley Madison scandal was made public and Josh and to run home with this tail between his legs. I dont mean that JB cares what brand of toothpaste she purchases or anything like that, but Josh hasn't been a proper "headship" in a long while. 

Connecting this back to the Lonely J's, Anna is now the low person on the totem pole with her adult in-laws that live at the TTH, and I can see her resenting that. I can also see it making things awkward. Not that I think Jana, Jason, James or Jackson are cruel to her or wish her any ill will, but she isn't "queen bee" by any stretch of the imagination.

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SMama

SMama

55 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think Anna stopped being independent after the Ashley Madison scandal was made public and Josh and to run home with this tail between his legs. I dont mean that JB cares what brand of toothpaste she purchases or anything like that, but Josh hasn't been a proper "headship" in a long while. 

Connecting this back to the Lonely J's, Anna is now the low person on the totem pole with her adult in-laws that live at the TTH, and I can see her resenting that. I can also see it making things awkward. Not that I think Jana, Jason, James or Jackson are cruel to her or wish her any ill will, but she isn't "queen bee" by any stretch of the imagination.

I though the FF and family returned to Arkansas after his “resignation” from FRC. When AM dropped they were back home.

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

2 minutes ago, SMama said:

I though the FF and family returned to Arkansas after his “resignation” from FRC. When AM dropped they were back home.

1 minute ago, Salacious Kitty said:

This is correct. They were in the Siloam Springs house when the AM scandal hit.

You guys are right. Thank you. Why am I always putting Ashley Madison BEFORE the reveal of the molestations?? (Probably because the reveal was more shocking to me)

51 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

If James and Jason have moved out, even more apathy. Jana may still well be friends with her. Jackson? A total non-entity. 

I agree. 

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

1 hour ago, satrunrose said:

This is only based on tabloid rumours, which I usually take with a grain of salt, but I wonder if Anna expected the siblings, especially the the lonely Js, to be fully committed to the Committee to Show Everyone They're Wrong about The Crumb Expert and the response has been a resounding "meh".

I’m sure she did. The fact that they didn’t was a big shock to her. I don’t know if and when that shock would wear off. 

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crazy8s

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good lord that was mind numbingly boring. Jason, James and Noah flew to pick up a bus they had purchased and drive it home but the bus had a locked up engine. they had it towed back to arkansas. they rented a vehicle to visit cousins somewhere. james seemed unsure, then said ohio. They bought said bus to dismantle and use parts on a different bus that had a wrecked front end.  They plan to use the to bus  "do some trips with some of the married couples or Jason, James and a few friends might just tour around having fun"

that was pretty much it

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Jynnan tonnix

Jynnan tonnix

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1 hour ago, AstridM said:

*gotten, James. Another SOTDRT failure.

Well, "gotten" is not a form used in actual British English... it's an archaic form which somehow remained in the American vocabulary hundreds of years after it had been dropped in England. It's a bit odd, really, that despite it being maintained in words like "forgotten", many English people are really quite puzzled as to exactly how "gotten" is grammatical.

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AstridM

AstridM

5 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Well, "gotten" is not a form used in actual British English... it's an archaic form which somehow remained in the American vocabulary hundreds of years after it had been dropped in England. It's a bit odd, really, that despite it being maintained in words like "forgotten", many English people are really quite puzzled as to exactly how "gotten" is grammatical.

He is American.

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

On 12/8/2022 at 7:36 PM, YupItsMe said:

How does he even know about Girls Gone Wild to use that phrase?

I assume the internet. Girls Gone Wild was kind of before his time (I’m 37 and it was kind of my time, an age when there were camera phones but not smart phones or Only Fans yet). 

On 12/8/2022 at 10:40 PM, Zella said:

These are also the same people who talk about "doing time" in regard to marriage and call their home "the big house." I think there's a good chance he's heard it and has no clue its original meaning. 

I think he probably knows. 

Minivanessa

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45 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I saw somewhere else she had a scheduled hearing on day last week, but have seen nothing as to outcome of any such hearing.

Her case disposition last year could have involved a "deferred prosecution*" for a period that might have been 12 months. During that time she would have to stay out of legal (criminal) trouble, and may have had other conditions like X hours of community service (although she might not have had that). If she met all conditions including no further legal trouble, then  any guilty plea she'd entered would be withdrawn and the case would be dismissed. IOW she'd have a clean record. 

If that were what happened, there could have been a court date set about now for a review hearing, and of course if the prosecutors claimed she'd violated any terms etc., there would be a hearing on that. However, if she met the conditions, it's possible the prosecutor's office would have notified the court that the conditions were satisfied, and the case might be dismissed without need for a hearing. Courts are busy, and I doubt they'd hold a hearing where not necessary. 

*"Deferred prosecution" is what that kind of disposition is called in my state. I'm not in Arkansas and don't know their terminology, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have that kind of disposition for minor cases where no one was injured and the defendant has a clean record. 

ETA: even if it weren't a "deferred prosecution," there may have been some conditions on the plea deal requiring her to stay out of trouble, etc., for a period of 12 months, and the hearing would have been to review that status and close the case if the conditions were met. IOW she might not have the whole case dismissed but it would still be closed and done.

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auntieminem

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I see Jed had video of Christmas at the big house and James did too.  It appears James is living in one of the buildings/warehouse. It has a bedroom and bathroom. Maybe Ben's old place when he moved to the Duggars to be near Jessa before they married. So he did move out of the house but still in JB property. Christmas was not well attended. Seems to be the same missing from the ugly sweater party.  

 

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3 hours ago, auntieminem said:

I see Jed had video of Christmas at the big house and James did too.  It appears James is living in one of the buildings/warehouse. It has a bedroom and bathroom. Maybe Ben's old place when he moved to the Duggars to be near Jessa before they married. So he did move out of the house but still in JB property. Christmas was not well attended. Seems to be the same missing from the ugly sweater party.  

 

I would not find it restful to sleep with weapons above my head.

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Discussing the charges against Jana is fine, but do not post any information that reveals her address/contact information- even if said documents are public (i.e. a part of court proceedings.)

Discussing charges against Jana is NOT a jumping off point to speculate on other instances abuse/neglect etc towards the M-children or to elaborate on Josh's conviction and potential victims.  

 

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