"The View": Week Of 1/9/2017

[maggiemae]

Perfect. It was going to happen sooner or later. I can't wait for tomorrow - well except for Jediblahblah trying to explain how it "probably" isn't true.

The fact even journalists have had this info for months and couldn't use it - and now the exact same time (12 days) of info on Hillary before election or Trump's Inauguration is suspect. Russia played us (the USA) and Hillary and Trump.

I am surprised I am not so surprised for some odd reason. No wonder Trump is screaming fake news tonight.

[bannana]

5 hours ago, bannana said:

I tweeted Joy.  Let's see if she uses it tomorrow.  There's a "movement", as BLOTUS likes to call it, to get everyone referring to him as BLOTUS by Inauguration Day.

Just realized that Joy should call him PEEOTUS instead now.

[Celia Rubenstein]

All the (TV)  news networks are being very cagey about the specifics of the stuff the Ruskies supposedly have on Donald.  They are not mentioning hookers or golden showers at all.  I don't know if they want more verification or they just can't bring themselves to say it or what. They are tip toeing around it like it's a landmine, lol.

I can't wait to see Joy and Whoopi try to discuss what is happening on tomorrow's show.   The View operates under the auspices of ABC News, if I understand correctly, so I am guessing they are going to get some kind of orders from on high regarding what is permissible to say. But I just can't picture Joy and Whoopi both having enough self control to resist dishing out a few zingers ... you know they are loving this. 

The other hosts, though? Sunny probably finds the whole thing embarrassing. I expect a lot of giggling and cringing and downcast glances from her until the topic passes.  Jed right this minute is with a bunch of her cloven hoofed cronies in some dank cellar thinking of ways to link the story to Hilary's emails and prove it's all her fault.  And poor Sara has fallen down an internet porn rabbit hole after googling to find out what a golden shower even is. She may not make it into work tomorrow.

But Whoopi and Joy, both professional comedians ....  always talking about how they are comics and can get away with saying things other people can't .... now's your chance!  I demand at least one decent pee related joke from each of you.  Don't let me down!

[Kenz]

Oh boy, I can't wait until the Wednesday show too. I didn't know what that golden thing was until the Tiger Woods scandal, and I thought that was the strangest perverse thing, and now to have it to be always associated with President Elect Creep Trump, that's got to be a fantasy set up for comedians. Of course, the issue of Trump colluding with Russians over the past few years is deadly serious. We are in for some very interesting times in the next few days, and I'm hoping the " Soft Sensual Inauguration" - that's what Trump's inauguration planner is calling it, I kid you not (more comedy gold for Whoopi and Joy), never happens. 

Edited January 11, 2017 by Kenz

[OhioSongbird]

This is what I get for going to bed?  BLOTUS and golden showers?!?  I live in the boonies and don't have cable so this is the first I have heard of this.  Not surprised tho.  Dude has a seriously creepy vibe (he's so enamored with his daughter he married a woman who looks like her).  I've been singing in nightclubs, seedy bars, upscale bars, wedding receptions, etc for most of my life and I have met many men like him.  I knew the Russians had something on him (hubby and I figured it was financial) but this?  Heee-hee-hee. I have been hoping and praying something would come out before the 20th but in this day and age even this won't be enough.

Sadly......

[CreamedPeas]

I think the BLOTUS is having his first news conference today at 11am EST. So the show may be pre-empted. 

I still can't believe this is happening to our country. 

[Haleth]

The lead news story should have been the incredibly heartfelt, impassioned speech given by Pres Obama last night, instead it's BLOTUS's golden showers?  Yeah, I weep for this country too.

[backformore]

4 hours ago, OhioSongbird said:

This is what I get for going to bed?  BLOTUS and golden showers?!?  I live in the boonies and don't have cable so this is the first I have heard of this.  Not surprised tho

since you asked, here's a link to the released (but not ye verified)  files: Trump Intelligence Allegations

the  crux is that Russia has financial and personal shit on Trump that they have been using to control him.  I am eager to see The View ladies pounce on this.

Edited January 11, 2017 by backformore

[sugarbaker design]

I'll save you all the trouble:

Whoopi:  Here's the thing...

Joy:  Trump is gonna be pissed!

Sarah:  That's disgusting

Sunny:  The Intelligence Reports actually say...

Jediblahblah:  Fake news!!!

[Jaded]

Hopefully today's episode gets posted on The View's site or elsewhere. Dumph looks like he's going to be giving a marble mouthed speech and I'm sure they'll be discussion about it afterwards on ABC. Even if there's not a lot of the show will be missed if cut to it after this is over.

[Haleth]

I missed the first 30. (I assume BLOTUS started at 11:30?). Are the hot topics worth watching online?

[TheGreenKnight]

On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 0:39 PM, Apprentice79 said:

I think, that, the reason that Trump, is spoken about so much, on the show,  is,  because, this is the first time, in my lifetime, that, people are legitimately afraid, of the incoming president. I don't remember people being scared of Bush winning in 2000.  There were disappointments and complaints, but, never fear.. Not to mention, the people of dubious nature, that, he is surrounding himself, via his cabinet.  Senator Sessions comes to mind.. I am not attacking you, for not liking the political tone, of the show, but, we just had an unprecedented, divisive and nasty elections, followed, by an unusual man, elected, President of the United States.. I am being kind, in calling him, unusual. 

I agree, this is why so much talk is about Trump. People are legitimately terrified over the horrors that are about to be wreaked on this country (and the rest of the world). I'll admit that watching Sunny and Joy is a little comforting, and I hope they'll be on The View for as long as this lasts.

Also, I clapped for Gabrielle Union. I'll admit I didn't know much of anything about her outside of her a few of her acting roles, and I enjoyed her defense of Streep. Particularly when she said it isn't attacking when you recount someone's behavior.

[bannana]

24 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I missed the first 30. (I assume BLOTUS started at 11:30?). Are the hot topics worth watching online?

I watched most of it and it is worth watching.  

Whoopi had a prewritten intro which made all of the plays on words that the twitterverse was having fun with all night.  They then talked about it pretty much in depth.  They read his tweets and I believe they clarified that the CIA et al did not leak to the media, they did a briefing for POTUS and PEEOTUS.  They highlighted the hypocrisy around unverified allegations and compared this to Trump's birther accusations. Jedi-hypocrite did not defend Trump and talked about the risk to the nation if he is involved with the Russians.  

[athousandclowns]

20 hours ago, OhioSongbird said:

 Refresh my memory folks....BLOTUS stands for? Big Loudmouth of the United States?  I want to share that with Mr. Songbird.   If you like political discourse join us for coffee some Sunday morning watching Charlie Rose and all the talking heads.  Meet The Press, Face The Nation....watch 'em all. 

Jed seemed a little subdued today.  My DVR rebelled so I only got the first 15-20 min.  Did I miss anything?

Fareed Zakaria GPS I hope!! 

[Celia Rubenstein]

As expected, they stuck to the barest bones of the story, making only joking references to Trump being "showered" with allegations and asking is this a  "golden" opportunity for democrats to get him, or will he be able to clean up these "leaks."   No specific explanation of what they were referring to, but everyone in the audience seemed to know.  They emphasized over and over how these documents are unsubstantiated research memos but they appear to be intelligence reports and they have actually been circulating for a while.   

I was glad Whoopi drew a comparison between how delicately some of the media is treating all this (and how basically all of the right wing is completely dismissing it as fake, unreliable, unsubstantiated BS) vs. how the claims that Obama was not an American/is a Muslim were also unsubstantiated but it didn't stop people from seizing those stories and running with them.  Later she mentioned how the Wikileaks material about Hilary and the DNC was treated as gospel and proof positive that she was evil and compromised and not to be trusted.  They can't have a different standard now ... what's good for the goose is good for the gander, so tough!  I'm glad she made a big point out of it because the hypocrisy and the double standards being employed are truly gag-worthy. 

Overall it was a good discussion, but I wish they had combed out a few more of the details about what Trump and his people were "allegedly" up to with Russia. (If what is in the report is true) the guy is practically a goddamned spy for them, reporting to them about the activities of certain Russians in the US. Supposedly colluding with the Kremlin in a quid-pro-quo exchange that provided him with information to use against political opponents and a smokescreen to conceal and distract people from his crooked activities and ties to China, given in exchange for promises from him to lift sanctions against Russia for its actions in the Ukraine and cooperation with certain energy policies (among other things).  Things that are just as crooked as hell.  Oh, and that to the extent that Trump is not willing to voluntarily give Russia what it wants, Russia is prepared to blackmail him into doing so.  

The stuff about hookers peeing on him is gross and shocking but it really kind of pales in comparison to the idea that the man who is going to be POTUS is in reality Russia's bitch.

FYI, from BUZZFEED:  the actual 35 page document that everyone is talking about. 

Edited January 12, 2017 by Celia Rubenstein
to clarify it's only allegations so The Donald doesn't sue me for libel! LOL

[Medicine Crow]

^^^^  If only ALL Americans understood the implications & repercussions!! ^^^^  (Well-said Celia.)

[athousandclowns]

17 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

^^^^  If only ALL Americans understood the implications & repercussions!! ^^^^  (Well-said Celia.)

Or cared 

[Apprentice79]

51 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

As expected, they stuck to the barest bones of the story, making only joking references to Trump being "showered" with allegations and asking is this a  "golden" opportunity for democrats to get him, or will he be able to clean up these "leaks."   No specific explanation of what they were referring to, but everyone in the audience seemed to know.  They emphasized over and over how these documents are unsubstantiated research memos but they appear to be intelligence reports and they have actually been circulating for a while.   

I was glad Whoopi drew a comparison between how delicately some of the media is treating all this (and how basically all of the right wing is completely dismissing it as fake, unreliable, unsubstantiated BS) vs. how the claims that Obama was not an American/is a Muslim were also unsubstantiated but it didn't stop people from seizing those stories and running with them.  Later she mentioned how the Wikileaks material about Hilary and the DNC was treated as gospel and proof positive that she was evil and compromised and not to be trusted.  They can't have a different standard now ... what's good for the goose is good for the gander, so tough!  I'm glad she made a big point out of it because the hypocrisy and the double standards being employed are truly gag-worthy. 

Overall it was a good discussion, but I wish they had combed out a few more of the details about what Trump and his people were "allegedly" up to with Russia. The guy is practically a goddamned spy for them, reporting to them about the activities of certain Russians in the US. And he appears to have been colluding with the Kremlin in a quid-pro-quo exchange that provided him with information to use against political opponents and a smokescreen to conceal and distract people from his crooked activities and ties to China, given in exchange for promises from him to lift sanctions against Russia for its actions in the Ukraine and cooperation with certain energy policies (among other things).  Just as crooked as hell.  And that to the extent that Trump is not willing to voluntarily give Russia what it wants, Russia is prepared to blackmail him into doing so.  

The stuff about hookers peeing on him is gross and shocking but it really kind of pales in comparison to the idea that the man who is going to be POTUS is in reality Russia's bitch.

FYI, from BUZZFEED:  the actual 35 page document that everyone is talking about. 

Yet, he used to call Secretary Clinton, crooked Hillary.   "Lock her up" was the slogan, chanted, repeatedly, by  his followers, at his rallies.  I loathe the Republican party, for letting, this charlatan, reach the highest office, in the land. 

Edited January 11, 2017 by Apprentice79

[bannana]

I have to assume that ABC didn't allow them to go into the content of the 35 page dossier since it is unverified.  

Tomorrow the story will be even more interesting with his behaviour at the press conference today.  He is accusing CNN of being fake news, and refused to take questions.  He accused the Intelligence agencies of leaking the 35 page doc to the media (which is not being suggested by anyone, although someone did leak it--months ago!), and accuses CNN of publishing it, which they didn't.  CNN covered the actual news, which was the briefing that POTUS and PEEOTUS received on the dossier.

So many issues to cover without even going into the content of the dossier.  Trump now saying Russia hacked the DNC and that was wrong.  Wait, what?  Trump shutting down the press yet accusing others of Nazi tactics.

Even if the 35 page doc is fiction, Trump's behaviour before and after its publication should be grounds for the RNC wanting to get rid of him.  I don't know what the system is in the US. Here there can be a vote of non confidence by the party in their leader.  Not sure what they have to do to get rid of him in the US, but it clearly has to happen.  The US is going to be severely compromised by this buffoon.

They should also talk about the fact that John McCain has acknowledged that he gave the dossier to the FBI last year.

Trump was also aware of this dossier long ago.  One thing I have read is that the Intelligence agencies were pissed (tee hee) at Trump for bad-mouthing them in the past few weeks and that is why they attached the two page briefing on the dossier.  Karma.  Hope the View gals can get their heads around some of the more interesting aspects of this story, and not just the contents of the dossier. 

[Tosia]

The View cd learn from Seth Myers' interview with Kellyanne Simpering Conway last night.  He was able to poke fun and poke her in t h e eye at the same time, by catching her up in her own words. 

  Really masterful...catch it on YouTube.  

Edited January 11, 2017 by Tosia
Great way to interview dupes.

[Tosia]

The View cd kearn from Seth Myers' interview with Kellyanne Simpering Conway last night.  He was able to poke fun snd poke her in t h e eye at the same time, by catchingbher up in her words.

  Really great...catch it on YouTube.  

[Medicine Crow]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Yet, he used to call Secretary Clinton, crooked Hillary.   "Lock her up" was the slogan, chanted, repeatedly, by  his followers, at his rallies.  I loathe the Republican party, for letting, this charlatan, reach the highest office, in the land. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republicans do everything but stand on their heads & spit nickels to PREVENT him from getting the nomination.  It was the PEOPLE who backed him as he insulted/lied his was through SIXTEEN candidates to become the nominee.  You can thank all the PEOPLE who didn't bother to vote for or against ANYONE who put him there.  Personally, I don't think the Republicans are happy, just trying to make the best of a really bad situation.  Just sayin'. 

[OhioSongbird]

I'm with you sister!  Republicans are stuck with this....and unfortunately so are we.

Abe Lincoln and all the founding fathers must be rollin' in their graves.

[Haleth]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

Not sure what they have to do to get rid of him in the US, but it clearly has to happen. 

There isn't a damned thing they can do about him now.

[bannana]

So there is no provision if the President is BSC that the VEEP steps in?

This would be a good topic for The View!  They could bring on an expert to splain it to them.

[Former Nun]

3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republicans do everything but stand on their heads & spit nickels to PREVENT him from getting the nomination.

Apparently not.  Plenty voted for him.

[Former Nun]

21 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I expect a lot of giggling and cringing and downcast glances from her until the topic passes.  

Y'know those "downcast glances" (my bolding) from anyone irritate me...same with Giuliana Rancic's putting her hand to her brow and putting her head down when something "inappropriate" (usually sexual) is said on Fashion Police.  It stinks of false virtue/flaunted higher morality to me.  (I hate-watch Fashion Police 20x harder than I do The View.)

[Celia Rubenstein]

4 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

Y'know those "downcast glances" (my bolding) from anyone irritate me...same with Giuliana Rancic's putting her hand to her brow and putting her head down when something "inappropriate" (usually sexual) is said on Fashion Police.  It stinks of false virtue/flaunted higher morality to me.  (I hate-watch Fashion Police 20x harder than I do The View.)

I agree, such gestures are usually completely fake and it grates.  One might as well literally clutch her pearls.  But with Sunny, I have to wonder.  There is a real air of daddy's girl, innocent goody-two shoes about her.  It was not at all how I expected her to be based on what I'd seen of her previously and it has surprised me.  I still like her - more importantly, I respect her - but sometimes I do wish she would cut that crap out, lol.  

And she totally DID do the downcast eyes thing when Whoopi was making her urination jokes this morning.  But she was laughing, so there's that.  

[Medicine Crow]

32 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

Apparently not.  Plenty voted for him.

I think there was a whole lot of arm-twisting going on, but that's just my opinion!!

[Former Nun]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

 It was not at all how I expected her to be based on what I'd seen of her previously and it has surprised me.  

If I had been an equal coworker or her superior, I might have told her (gently because she's so fragile) that stuff doesn't cut it here.  Of course, I'd probably be hauled into HR for some dreaded infraction.

[maggiemae]

Odd - need to think about it. Guess I hung my head with the news about Trump on Buzzfeed (true or not) and then the jokes and chatter started.

[hisbunkie]

On 1/10/2017 at 1:34 PM, backformore said:

I have been obsessed with the election and all the bullshit going on for a while now, and for a lot of the country, it is the number one topic.  So I am fine with the way the show has been going lately.   It seems more serious, and that matches my mood, I guess.

It may not seem like it but there is more to it than politics.  I tune in for the discussion. I'm not interested in network stars discussing their projects or cooking segments.  I think the show is at its best when it's the core hosts talking about current events.

I've always liked Sara and find that she is coming into her own.  I really enjoy what appears to be a warm relationship with Joy. 

[Bronzedog]

These women are on the air for one hour.  60 minutes.  So, why is it necessary for Whoopie to be eating when they come back from commercial?

[Haleth]

Jed has certainly changed her tune about responsible journalism as she was the one yelling "emails!" every two minutes for the past 6 months.  Again with her selective memory.

Sarah did a good job in the hot topics but it was hard taking her seriously in a sweater made for a 7th grader.

[sugarbaker design]

12 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Jed has certainly changed her tune about responsible journalism as she was the one yelling "emails!" every two minutes for the past 6 months.  Again with her selective memory.

That woman is truly unbearable.

[Former Nun]

On 1/9/2017 at 3:06 PM, Haleth said:

How Jed could seriously claim Trump was not ridiculing a disabled person, I'll never know.

Either $$$$ or hoping to get a job in the administration?

Edited January 12, 2017 by Former Nun
Added an "o" ...but which one?

[backformore]

FAKE NEWS is when Trump spent years saying he had proof that Obama's birth certificate was not legit.  

He made shit up, his supporters believed it, some still do. Trump kept promising proof, never delivered.  

Karma, baby.

[bannana]

It's actually exceedingly difficult to keep track of the lies that Trump tells, but I wish Joy or someone would report on it each day.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Joy was wrong defending Kellyanne Conway by saying she works for Trump, that she is just doing her job.  And so was Sunny suggesting she is merely a "spin doctor." 

I watched the entire interview Conway did with Anderson Cooper last night and she was not spinning. Spinning is trying to convince someone that your interpretation of something is the correct one and the one they should accept. It's not trying to convince someone something happened when it didn't.  That's called LYING and that is what Conway was doing last night. 

She may be "just doing her job" but if her job requires her to go on TV and completely whore out her dignity and integrity and credibility, then she should be held accountable for being a complete scumbag and nobody should minimize it.  She made a complete fool out of herself last night and her conduct is completely indefensible.  For goodness sakes, even that birdbrain Sara watched and managed to understand what was happening.   And if that twit can see that you are full of it, it's all over.  

Joy in particular gets so indignant about so many things, I was really surprised she would just write off what Kellyanne was doing last night.  She must not have seen much of the interview aside from that little clip they showed, because it was at least as infuriating as how Trump behaved toward the CNN reporter in the press conference (if not more so) and Joy's panties were all in a knot over that. Trump was rude and loud and abrasive, but there was a slimy insidiousness to Conway last night that bothered me a lot more.  It felt much more dangerous ... I wonder if Joy would have minimized what Conway was doing if she had seen the full interview. 

[Medicine Crow]

5 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Joy was wrong defending Kellyanne Conway by saying she works for Trump, that she is just doing her job.  And so was Sunny suggesting she is merely a "spin doctor." 

I watched the entire interview Conway did with Anderson Cooper last night and she was not spinning. Spinning is trying to convince someone that your interpretation of something is the correct one and the one they should accept. It's not trying to convince someone something happened when it didn't.  That's called LYING and that is what Conway was doing last night. 

She may be "just doing her job" but if her job requires her to go on TV and completely whore out her dignity and integrity and credibility, then she should be held accountable for being a complete scumbag and nobody should minimize it.  She made a complete fool out of herself last night and her conduct is completely indefensible.  For goodness sakes, even that birdbrain Sara watched and managed to understand what was happening.   And if that twit can see that you are full of it, it's all over.  

Joy in particular gets so indignant about so many things, I was really surprised she would just write off what Kellyanne was doing last night.  She must not have seen much of the interview aside from that little clip they showed, because it was at least as infuriating as how Trump behaved toward the CNN reporter in the press conference (if not more so) and Joy's panties were all in a knot over that. Trump was rude and loud and abrasive, but there was a slimy insidiousness to Conway last night that bothered me a lot more.  It felt much more dangerous ... I wonder if Joy would have minimized what Conway was doing if she had seen the full interview. 

Totally agree with everything you said.  I had to change the channel after two minutes because I couldn't stand watching her boldly LIE & laugh at Anderson.  As I said elsewhere, when I see her I will change the channel, even if it's Rachel Maddow's show.  I'm glad to hear Anderson got his shots in, but it rarely happens because she's soooo slippery.

[susieq147]

9 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Spinning is trying to convince someone that your interpretation of something is the correct one and the one they should accept. It's not trying to convince someone something happened when it didn't.  That's called LYING and that is what Conway was doing last night.

This is what they are going to do as long as Trump is in office (my personal prediction is less than a  year) and people will just get used to it.  We already now are so conditioned to them lying or spinning or simply just being obnoxious even when telling the truth that we expect it.  Which is why all of us sane rational people need to beat the gong every single time they do this.  They need to be called out whenever they lie or refuse to answer questions.  Hold their feet to the fire.  Will it stop them from lying? No. But at least we can make sure people know they are lying.

[Apprentice79]

21 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Joy was wrong defending Kellyanne Conway by saying she works for Trump, that she is just doing her job.  And so was Sunny suggesting she is merely a "spin doctor." 

I watched the entire interview Conway did with Anderson Cooper last night and she was not spinning. Spinning is trying to convince someone that your interpretation of something is the correct one and the one they should accept. It's not trying to convince someone something happened when it didn't.  That's called LYING and that is what Conway was doing last night. 

She may be "just doing her job" but if her job requires her to go on TV and completely whore out her dignity and integrity and credibility, then she should be held accountable for being a complete scumbag and nobody should minimize it.  She made a complete fool out of herself last night and her conduct is completely indefensible.  For goodness sakes, even that birdbrain Sara watched and managed to understand what was happening.   And if that twit can see that you are full of it, it's all over.  

Joy in particular gets so indignant about so many things, I was really surprised she would just write off what Kellyanne was doing last night.  She must not have seen much of the interview aside from that little clip they showed, because it was at least as infuriating as how Trump behaved toward the CNN reporter in the press conference (if not more so) and Joy's panties were all in a knot over that. Trump was rude and loud and abrasive, but there was a slimy insidiousness to Conway last night that bothered me a lot more.  It felt much more dangerous ... I wonder if Joy would have minimized what Conway was doing if she had seen the full interview. 

Kellyanne Conway, is Trump's, minister of propaganda.  That woman is a piece of work..  She has aged 20 years before our eyes.  I still cannot believe, that, she is just 48 years old.   She is repellent, just like everybody, on Trump's team.  It is disheartening, that, we will be stuck, with these people, for the next 4 years. It is going to be long and painful.  

Edited January 12, 2017 by Apprentice79

[Vinyasa]

Quote

These women are on the air for one hour.  60 minutes.  So, why is it necessary for Whoopie to be eating when they come back from commercial?

Take out all the commercials and ABC promos, they are really on the air for 38 minutes.

[bannana]

27 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Kellyanne Conway, is Trump's, minister of propaganda.  That woman is a piece of work..  She has aged 20 years before our eyes.  I still cannot believe, that, she is just 48 years old.   She is repellent, just like everybody, on Trump's team.  It is disheartening, that, we will be stuck, with these people, for the next 4 years. It is going to be long and painful.  

I hate it every time they say KAC is a nice person, and they like her, but....

She is not a nice person, at all.  She's as vile as her boss and his co-horts.  She outright lied on AC360.  I cannot believe that Joy watched that interview.  It was stunning.

Whoopi is becoming my fave these days.  Uh oh.

[Former Nun]

2 hours ago, susieq147 said:

We already now are so conditioned to them lying or spinning or simply just being obnoxious even when telling the truth that we expect it. 

SusieQ147 made the above statement: I gently "corrected" a friend on Facebook (a friend LONG before there was a Facebook) to say that the negative article she posted about President Obama and his support of our troops was not only incorrect...it was false through and through.  She, an intelligent woman with a high level job and two sons in the military, said she didn't care.  It might as well be! I didn't unfriend her, but I don't have to see her gazillion cruel "patriotic" posts anymore.

Edited January 12, 2017 by Former Nun
"Quote this" didn't work and left out SusieQ147.

[backformore]

3 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

For goodness sakes, even that birdbrain Sara watched and managed to understand what was happening.   And if that twit can see that you are full of it, it's all over

Is it just me, or has Sara found 20 extra IQ points lying around and decided to use them?  

She just seems smarter lately

[Haleth]

Maybe having Sunny there every day has encouraged her to read more and prepare better for hot topics. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

I hope it's not just the producers feeding Sara blue cards with smart things to say written on them. LOL that sounds so cynical, but with this show, who knows.  Maybe she is just finally building up her confidence enough to contribute. 

The real test will be how she responds when someone goes beyond what is written on those cards - if she can explain her thoughts and reasoning on her feet, so to speak.  Then we can be sure it's her and not just a plot by production to make her appear informed. 

Edited January 13, 2017 by Celia Rubenstein

[Vinyasa]

Quote

Is it just me, or has Sara found 20 extra IQ points lying around and decided to use them?  

She just seems smarter lately

It is  just you. Airhead Sara is still a flake.

8 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

birdbrain Sara

Celia is right.

[Silver Raven]

6 hours ago, backformore said:

Is it just me, or has Sara found 20 extra IQ points lying around and decided to use them?  

She just seems smarter lately

I was shocked at her actually standing up for a position today.