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I love that Taylor said Ryan threatened to show up at "our" son's baseball game. I'm happy Bentley has Taylor in his life.

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He's gotten really fat though, which, if my 90s memory serves me well, was always a sure sign Ben Affleck and Matthew Perry were (temporarily) clean.  I remember feeling vaguely sorry for them that th

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He used to be so cute. But recently, he looks a little nuts. The tie dyed shirt and shorts he was wearing a few weeks ago, when he was all bug eyed and whatnot. But at the wedding, it almost looked like he had a bad case of pink eye, or a sty as someone else mentioned. 

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MissMel

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12 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Yeah that's no sty. It looks almost like his left eye socket was broken or damaged somehow.

I think so too. I'm thinking he injured his eye while shooting at those cats. Like the gun kicked back during a malfunction. That or his dad whooped that ass before kicking him out. The cliche of father and son, beatin' the hell out of each other, in the front yard doesn't seem too far fetched to me. Larry did say he wants nothing to do with him ever and Jen was just so upset with all of it. I can see those two getting pissed off, knocking the hell out of each other, then washing their hands of each other for a while before everything calmed back down again. It happens. 

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Christina

Christina

It looks like the skin below the eyebrow but above the eyelid is swollen, like a stye. It also hasn't appeared before, unlike his thirty-yard stare, which I think supports the head injury theory. My mom had a broken facial bone below her eye, and her eyeball itself was bruised for over a month. The bruising around the eye lasted long after the swelling went down.

We'll probably never know the truth about what happened between him and his father. If he suffers from a head injury, we probably will hear something, since unfortunately, head injuries tend to cause erratic troubles that will definitely be written about since he is on the show.

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I would certainly regret being shown on television going camping in formal wear. Being caught calling it "Glam-ping" must have been even more mortifying!

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EmeraldGirl

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You would think they'd want to confirm a brain injury, if that's the case. Ryan has the whole world convinced his using something. Still can't understand why he goes out for hours and his fiancé doesn't know what the hell he does. 

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Tatum

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On 12/1/2016 at 6:12 AM, MissMel said:

I think so too. I'm thinking he injured his eye while shooting at those cats. Like the gun kicked back during a malfunction...

That actually makes a lot of sense, and it would stand to reason the family wouldn't really want to release that explanation, as it doesn't really make him look any better. As far as his personality, I think it's drugs. Granted he never was a go-getter, but his level of lethargy at any given time doesn't even seem humanly possible.

 

Also, shut up Kenzie. I have no patience for people who willingly get involved with someone who is something of a public figure (much as it pains me to call Ryan that), and then bitches about the lack of privacy. Like she didn't date him in the first place because he was on TV, and like she's not going to wring out every possible benefit of being engaged to a Z list "celebrity"  in the meantime.

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I think Ryan suffers from a brain injury AND drug use. For all of Maci's faults, I don't see her allowing Ryan to take Bentley if she thought he was using at the time, and when he first got with this girlfriend, Ryan was picking up Bentley to go with her and her child (daughter?) to the zoo, etc. so for at least a while, he must have been maintaining. She can drink while pregnant, but she wouldn't put Bentley in a car with a high Ryan.

Last season we were talking about things on his social media along with how he was acting on the show, and even if he came out and said he didn't have a brain injury, I wouldn't believe him. The large gaps of missing time, his dad's insistence that he didn't care if he ever saw Ryan again, along with some other things make me think drugs are also involved. I seriously doubt we will ever know the truth, but will probably learn bits and pieces from Maci.

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GreatKazu

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1 minute ago, druzy said:

I thought an intervention was suppose to be a surprise. 

Yeah, reading that it doesn't sound like an intervention. All that man says is they are going to talk. Well, talking to a druggie is one thing. Laying down the law and stating you won't tolerate his shit anymore until he gets help and until then, no wedding, no more enabling, and if you want prayers, pray for yourself that you can deal with being attached to an addict for the rest of your life because until Ryan is given an ultimatum, all the talk in the world is not going to do a bit of good. 

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“Being married someday is going to be so dope,” she retweeted. “Like you get to come home to your best friend every single day and just do life together.”

Oh dear heart. You are not ready to be married.

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Birdee

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12 hours ago, druzy said:

I thought an intervention was suppose to be a surprise. 

Well in their defense, they could tell Ryan to get in the car so they can take him to his intervention and he'd forget where they were going before they down the block. Everything is a surprise for Ryan. 

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GreatKazu

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Well, now that Maci is copping to Ryan having a drug problem, my question is, why then was she pushing for Ryan to be so involved with Bentley? There were scenes of Ryan picking up Bentley and taking him. Ryan was late, but nonetheless, he picked him up. I can tear Ryan apart for what issues he has, but I have a major issue with a mother who willingly lets her child be with someone who is an addict. How is she different than Cate? 

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MissMel

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9 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

It's her second marriage!!!

"First time's for love, second time's for money."

There's not enough love or money to make marrying Ryan a good idea.  Not even Jen and Larry, or Bintlee, can make that seem like a good choice.  

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Tatum

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Well, I think her first marriage was a shotgun union that didn't even last until the birth of their kid. Clearly she learned nothing from that disaster either. These people are just really, really stupid. I'm reasonably impressed that she has a decent job, but so annoyed when she whines about the intrusion of the paparazzi when she made the choice to pursue a relationship with a D list "celebrity". 

2 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Well, now that Maci is copping to Ryan having a drug problem, my question is, why then was she pushing for Ryan to be so involved with Bentley? There were scenes of Ryan picking up Bentley and taking him. Ryan was late, but nonetheless, he picked him up. I can tear Ryan apart for what issues he has, but I have a major issue with a mother who willingly lets her child be with someone who is an addict. How is she different than Cate? 

If she cuts Ryan out of Bentley's life, how else is she supposed to continuously remind him of what he could have had?

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GreatKazu

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42 minutes ago, Tatum said:

 

If she cuts Ryan out of Bentley's life, how else is she supposed to continuously remind him of what he could have had?

If she cuts Ryan out of Bentley's life, she then has the focus on herself and Taylor, and according to what she said (Maci's thread), their marriage is not all that. 

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ginger90

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If they did get married already, and then he went to rehab, what frame of mind was he in to say "I do"? Perhaps they discussed it and decided that legally they both wanted her to be his person, while in rehab.

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FairyDusted

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Well I'm glad about that. When we first met him he seemed into beer and weed. IMO. Those scary eyeballs of the past few seasons appear to have taken it to a new level. I admit I broke down when he did talking to Dr. D. I don't think Jen could go on without her son. Of course Larry loves him but Bentley would be really wounded should anything happen to his father. 

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leighroda

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I'm glad Ryan is getting help for his drug problem, I have mixed feelings because if they wanted to keep it private then there is a really easy way to do that... not be on a reality show. But at the same time he is a periphery character with the main characters (I couldn't say stars) being d-list at best, so I wouldn't say he's putting himself out there to the same degree of other reality stars, which makes me a little more willing to give him the benefit of a doubt when it comes to privacy. Which is why I said in another thread that it bothered me that Maci (and the others) outed him by talking about his issues on camera. It's a gray area I guess, but regardless I'm glad something is being done for Bentleys sake whether it was voluntary on Ryan's part or not. 

Im also a little relieved to know it is a drug issue... I'm not happy about it, but not knowing if it was a true drug use issue or related to his accident made it hard to really get a feel for the situation when it comes to Bentley... idk if I'm saying this clearly so I apologize if it's confusing, it's confusing in my head too. I guess my point is that if he had cognitive deficiencies related to his accident, I would say that is not fair to limit Bentley's visitation, but if it's a drug issue like it turned out to be, I do think it's necessary to limit Bentley's exposure.  Either way, if Ryan gets help I think it's fair to say once he is in a better place that he could be a good parent to Bentley (again if he chooses) so I do truly hope this helps for Bentley's sake... and it helps to now know we weren't crazy, there was no way to deny something was going on with Ryan, it's nice to finally know what it was.

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MyPeopleAreNordic

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On June 2, 2017 at 11:07 AM, MissMel said:

"First time's for love, second time's for money."

There's not enough love or money to make marrying Ryan a good idea.  Not even Jen and Larry, or Bintlee, can make that seem like a good choice.  

My mother-in-law told my sister-in-law that quote when she was getting ready to marry her (non-rich) second husband and she said to me, too, in the event I ever divorce her son. However, by "rich," she didn't mean Teen-Mom-money-rich. She meant the man needed to be pulling "at least a million dollars a year" level rich to be worth the hassle of having a husband again (Ha).

On June 4, 2017 at 6:35 AM, ginger90 said:

If they did get married already, and then he went to rehab, what frame of mind was he in to say "I do"? Perhaps they discussed it and decided that legally they both wanted her to be his person, while in rehab.

She has to pregnant, right? Shotgun wedding is the only thing that kinda (still not really, though) makes sense. 

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MyPeopleAreNordic

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On June 2, 2017 at 10:29 AM, GreatKazu said:

Well, now that Maci is copping to Ryan having a drug problem, my question is, why then was she pushing for Ryan to be so involved with Bentley? There were scenes of Ryan picking up Bentley and taking him. Ryan was late, but nonetheless, he picked him up. I can tear Ryan apart for what issues he has, but I have a major issue with a mother who willingly lets her child be with someone who is an addict. How is she different than Cate? 

Part of me wants to think she was protecting Bentley's privacy somewhat.....like by trying to keep Ryan's drug issue private so kids at  school wouldn't know Bentley's dad is a "druggie" and tease him so she went with some manufactured storyline about wanting Ryan to be more involved.... I kind of respect that up until recently everyone seems to have kept this all pretty private. Even Ryan's ex Dalis is now telling Radar that Ryan went to outpatient drug treatment in 2012. I kind of want to commend her, the Edwardses, & Maci for keeping it all out of the public's eye either to protect Ryan's and/or Bentley's privacy. I think it may also speak to the fact that Ryan has a circle of people who really care about him and didn't want to sell him out to tabloids long ago....

But then I think of Bentley being alone with Ryan and riding in cars Ryan drove. And I think they either are dumb as rocks and didn't realize or want to admit Ryan has a problem or they enabled him with complete disregard for Bentley's safety. UGH. I also think it speaks to the fact that the TM producers really like the Edwardses so they didn't put Ryan's addiction front and center to garner ratings and didn't exploit it....they just kind of waited until they just couldn't ignore it anymore. 

Please get it together, Ryan. As for Mackenzie and this marriage, I know she's young but this girl just ain't right. 

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Tatum

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I am somewhat impressed if Maci did keep the drug thing quiet in order to spare Bentley possible embarrassment or distress, but I don't know if I believe that's why she did it. Maybe though, it's not like I know her personally.

Interesting about Dalis...2012 was quite awhile ago considering how much Ryan has degenerated in the last year or two. Also, Jen and Larry waited way too long to try tough love. His family may love him, but they are all guilty of being enablers.

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I just recently put a quote on one of these threads where Maci said no one at Bentley's school is aware of the show. No one bothers him and such. I posted that (I believe on the Maci thread) to show what a contrast to what she claimed back when she wanted Farrah off the show. Her claim then was because people at Bentley's school will confuse his mother for being the mom on Teen Mom who did porn and he would be targeted by his classmates. Now, which one is it? It can't be both, Maci. She has become such a chronic liar that I don't believe shit she says. 

With that said, I don't believe Maci was protecting Bentley. If she was, she never would have mentioned anything at all. Or was it the alcohol talking in Puerto Rico? Protecting Bentley is what she should have done long ago if Ryan was a druggie since 2012, according to Dalis. If Dalis' information is true, that means Maci knew for five years AT LEAST that Ryan was into drugs. How was she protecting Bentley then? She could have gone to court, but she didn't. Something tells me she probably thought it would put her in a bad light with the Edwards and there goes her free babysitting so she could go off and party. 

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GreatKazu

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I have some free time on my hands and I decided to Google some shit about Mackenzie. I came across her wedding registry from 2013 and her marriage license information. I also came across a booking photo and arrest details of a guy whose name matches her ex. The guy in the booking photo has the name Zachary T. Stephens. Mackenzie's ex's middle name is listed on the marriage license site as Zachary Tyler Stephens from Birchwood, Tennessee. The mugshot info lists Chattanooga as the arresting city, not the residence of the guy. Not sure if it is the same guy or not. Maybe you sleuths can figure this one out. 

mackenzie_marriage_license.jpg

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Wedding registry: https://registry.theknot.com/mackenzie-standifer-zachary-stephens-september-2013/5629420

Mugshot and details: http://www.mugshotsonline.com/tennessee/chattanooga/zachary-t-stephens/194794921

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7 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I have some free time on my hands and I decided to Google some shit about Mackenzie. I came across her wedding registry from 2013 and her marriage license information. I also came across a booking photo and arrest details of a guy whose name matches her ex. The guy in the booking photo has the name Zachary T. Stephens. Mackenzie's ex's middle name is listed on the marriage license site as Zachary Tyler Stephens from Birchwood, Tennessee. The mugshot info lists Chattanooga as the arresting city, not the residence of the guy. Not sure if it is the same guy or not. Maybe you sleuths can figure this one out. 

mackenzie_marriage_license.jpg

wedding_license_mackenzie.jpg

Wedding registry: https://registry.theknot.com/mackenzie-standifer-zachary-stephens-september-2013/5629420

Mugshot and details: http://www.mugshotsonline.com/tennessee/chattanooga/zachary-t-stephens/194794921

Should we send Mac something from the registry?  Just for fun.

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Tatum

Tatum

8 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I have some free time on my hands and I decided to Google some shit about Mackenzie. I came across her wedding registry from 2013 and her marriage license information. I also came across a booking photo and arrest details of a guy whose name matches her ex. The guy in the booking photo has the name Zachary T. Stephens. Mackenzie's ex's middle name is listed on the marriage license site as Zachary Tyler Stephens from Birchwood, Tennessee. The mugshot info lists Chattanooga as the arresting city, not the residence of the guy. Not sure if it is the same guy or not. Maybe you sleuths can figure this one out. 

mackenzie_marriage_license.jpg

wedding_license_mackenzie.jpg

Wedding registry: https://registry.theknot.com/mackenzie-standifer-zachary-stephens-september-2013/5629420

Mugshot and details: http://www.mugshotsonline.com/tennessee/chattanooga/zachary-t-stephens/194794921

 

What a stud.

He would be about the right age...Zach turned 18 in Sept 2013 (like, seriously, days before the wedding. Think Mac was still 17 when they got married).

 

...And this is why I find Mac so annoying. She's a 17 year old child bride having a shotgun wedding, and her registry is full of $200 dinner settings for 12. Right, because the one thing two teen parents have all the time is fancy dinner parties requiring matching china plates. I'd give her one or two indulgences but her entire registry is full of that shit.

And sure, she was only 17, but 3 and a half years later, she's uh, not showing much in the way of better judgment.

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GreatKazu

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@MissMel Did I find the registry before Amber Porkwood? lol 

2 hours ago, Tatum said:

 

 

...And this is why I find Mac so annoying. She's a 17 year old child bride having a shotgun wedding, and her registry is full of $200 dinner settings for 12. Right, because the one thing two teen parents have all the time is fancy dinner parties requiring matching china plates. I'd give her one or two indulgences but her entire registry is full of that shit.

And sure, she was only 17, but 3 and a half years later, she's uh, not showing much in the way of better judgment.

That 12 piece setting you mentioned, she requested THREE SETS of it. 

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MissMel

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I don't know @GreatKazu!  I was reading tweets and the registry crockpot was mentioned so I snipped the screen to come post it.  I saw you found the registry, too.  Too funny!

Now my question is: Did Ryan and Zach hang out in the same circles any?  Is that how Mac knew where to find Rhiine?  I'm not buying the 'we met at the gym' story she was trying to sell.  Matt should take notes from this chick.  

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

3 minutes ago, MissMel said:

I don't know @GreatKazu!  I was reading tweets and the registry crockpot was mentioned so I snipped the screen to come post it.  I saw you found the registry, too.  Too funny!

Now my question is: Did Ryan and Zach hang out in the same circles any?  Is that how Mac knew where to find Rhiine?  I'm not buying the 'we met at the gym' story she was trying to sell.  Matt should take notes from this chick.  

Mac probably found out Ryan goes to that gym and she decided to "join". lol 

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Tatum

Tatum

3 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Mac probably found out Ryan goes to that gym and she decided to "join". lol 

Well, I wouldn't put it past her to "accidentally" bump into Ryan, but if Ryan has been to the gym once in the last 3 years I will eat my hat. That guy can barely make it to the 7-11 to get an energy drink.

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Well, we know Ryan goes to "the bank" for three hours at a time, meaning he probably had to stop by the ATM, withdraw money, track down his dealer, and get really high. Going to "the gym" probably means going to his dealer's house, not finding him at home, going around to places the dealer frequents, then finding him at the gym....and meeting Mac while he was there...

(I wrote "him" for Ryan's dealer but of course the dealer could be a "her," too.)

Since this has been going on since 2012....I wish we could get some more tea out of the girls Ryan dated in between Dalis and Mac....like Shelby for example. And what about Kyle King...did he know Ryan was using or know if Maci knew? These people are really relatively tight-lipped compared to many Teen Mom-adjacent people. If this was Nathan, David, Adam, Amber, Jenelle, or Butch, I feel like their respective relatives, exes, and "friends" would have sold them out with this info and details long ago or exposed them in barely-readable Twitter rants. Why are these people so (relatively) mature? LOL. 

I'd LOVE to take Maci's mom out for a couple of glasses of wine right now. I wonder if how long Ryan's issues have gone on ignored/enabled is part of the reason why she isn't really on the show anymore.

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