stormy December 11, 2016 Share December 11, 2016 I want Exxon Mobile CEO to be named SOS for two reasons. First, there's nothing I'd like better than seeing spineless Mitt Romney get thrown under the bus. #2 I'm looking forward to how the republicans are going to squirm over the Tillerson/Putin lovefest. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2820034
AntiBeeSpray December 11, 2016 Share December 11, 2016 This sound familiar guys? Quote Kleptocracy (from Greek: κλεπτοκρατία, klépto- thieves + -kratos rule, literally "rule by thieves")[1][2] is a government with corrupt rulers (kleptocrats) that use their power to exploit the people and natural resources of their own territory in order to extend their personal wealth and political power. Typically this system involves the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service.[3][4] Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptocracy Sounds an awful lot like what Drumpf, his cronies and the Republicans want to do. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2820552
Bastet December 11, 2016 Share December 11, 2016 Jim Hightower has been talking about "kleptocracy" and "kleptocrats" for at least a decade. Thieves in High Places is a good read. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2820605
AntiBeeSpray December 11, 2016 Share December 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bastet said: Jim Hightower has been talking about "kleptocracy" and "kleptocrats" for at least a decade. Thieves in High Places is a good read. I'll have to see if my local library has it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2820625
NewDigs December 11, 2016 Share December 11, 2016 Here's The Guardian's take on a Tillerson appointment. Headline: 'Rex Tillerson: an appointment that would confirm Putin's US election win' 'The Wall Street Journal reported: “Friends and associates said few US citizens are closer to Mr Putin than Mr Tillerson.”' snip '“Tillerson has a relationship with Putin and he opposed the sanctions imposed on Russia after the annexation of Crimea. This will alarm those worried about Russian intentions in Europe.” Praising Tillerson in an interview with Fox News Sunday, Trump said: “To me a great advantage is that he knows many of the players in the world and he knows them well.” Lest there be any doubt about which players the president-elect had in mind, Trump added: “He does massive deals in Russia not for himself, but for the company.”' Massive! And that's supposed to be a good thing? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2821057
Duke Silver December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 Trump & his Queen Troll are being direct about their intention to gut intel services: https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/808114160508792832 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2821369
AntiBeeSpray December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 ^ I think this fits that right about now. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2821412
izabella December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 (edited) The swamp is so slimy. Follow the money: http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/11/investing/rex-tillerson-exxon-russia-putin/index.html Quote Tillerson's biggest deal in Russia was announced in 2011 with Rosneft. The companies were focused on drilling for oil in three key Russian regions: the Arctic, the deepwaters of the Black Sea, and Siberia. In 2012, Igor Sechin, a close ally of Putin and chairman of Rosneft, hailed the partnership as a "giant leap forward" and argued it's "more ambitious than man's first walk in space or sending a man to the moon." The Exxon deal meant a great deal to Russia. Sechin, who was also then the deputy prime minister of Russia, bragged that after the Exxon agreement was signed, the valuation of Rosneft soared by $7 billion in just five days. The partnership also gave Rosneft the chance to get a stake in Exxon's North American projects, including ones in West Texas and in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico. Tillerson himself seemed hopeful that the Exxon deal could lead to even closer ties between the two countries. "It cannot be anything but helpful to broadening the relationship between the American people and the Russian people," Tillerson said at the time. And here he tells us exactly how he feels about the US placing sanctions against Russia, and who would benefit from lifting them. Quote In 2014, Exxon was hit hard by a round of U.S. and European Union sanctions that targeted Russia for its intervention in Ukraine. Exxon said it could have lost up to $1 billion due to the sanctions, according to regulatory filings. Exxon would likely stand to gain if sanctions are lifted on Russia by the new administration. "We are very anxious to get back to work there," Tillerson told industry analysts in March when asked if Exxon would be interested in restarting its venture with Rosneft in Russia. Tillerson noted that it would take time to resume operations, especially in the Arctic, because "we had to dismantle all of the capability and the infrastructure" due to sanctions. Tillerson said he's "thankful" the Russians haven't done anything to "make the situation worse." To the contrary, Tillerson said Russia has "done things to help us hang on to the rights we have" in the wake of the sanctions. Edited December 12, 2016 by izabella 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2821754
AntiBeeSpray December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 Yep. More 'drill, baby, drill'. Russia wouldn't mind them drilling there, since it's more money for them and they'd get what they want in return and the US would get what they want as well. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2821820
Duke Silver December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 I'll take his word for it on the translation: https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/808111772255354880 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2822042
sistermagpie December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 Yup, to me it reads (nobody's going to be hiring me as a translator even of tweets anytime soon) "The selection of Tillerson - a sensation. This is a businessman, by definition pragmatic, moreover with a lot of experience of work with Russia. Trump continues to surprise." Sure does! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2822090
SoSueMe December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 (edited) Oh Geez. What in the hell is Carly doing at Trump Tower? Now she's out waxing poetic over the honor of meeting with the PE. These people have no shame or pride, smh. Edited December 13, 2016 by SoSueMe 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2823116
stormy December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 (edited) Mitt Romney's niece to be named RNC chair. Her reward for shutting down Jill Stein's recount. Edited December 12, 2016 by stormy 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2823881
Duke Silver December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 No shit??? Some of us have been saying this from day 1. Donald Trump Interviewed Mitt Romney to ‘Torture’ Him, Roger Stone Says 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2823989
SoSueMe December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Duke Silver said: No shit??? Some of us have been saying this from day 1. Donald Trump Interviewed Mitt Romney to ‘Torture’ Him, Roger Stone Says There ya go. I don't feel too sorry for Mitt though. No self-respect, pride or shame. What a group of deplorables. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824285
fastiller December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 3 hours ago, stormy said: Mitt Romney's niece to be named RNC chair. Her reward for shutting down Jill Stein's recount. For real? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824403
KIMBERLYANN11 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 3 hours ago, stormy said: Mitt Romney's niece to be named RNC chair. Her reward for shutting down Jill Stein's recount. Ronna Romney. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Glad it gets her silly ass the hell out of Michigan politics. Bye Felicia. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824414
AntiBeeSpray December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, KIMBERLYANN11 said: Ronna Romney. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Glad it gets her silly ass the hell out of Michigan politics. Bye Felicia. Well it gets her into Washington/the nation's politics. Which isn't good either. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824616
suomi December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Duke Silver said: No shit??? Some of us have been saying this from day 1. Donald Trump Interviewed Mitt Romney to ‘Torture’ Him, Roger Stone Says And to silence him. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824721
AntiBeeSpray December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, suomi said: And to silence him. Yep. What better way to do so. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824744
Menrva December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 For those of you who are Marvel fans, my husband, upon hearing about Tillerson's appointment, grunted in disgust and said, "Great. That schmuck just appointed Roxxon as our new Secretary of State." 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2824908
KIMBERLYANN11 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, AntiBeeSpray said: Well it gets her into Washington/the nation's politics. Which isn't good either. Michigan's got it's own problems. Bill Schuette, the one in charge of squashing down our recount, announced he's planned to run for governor in two years. He's an enemy to gay rights, women's rights and medical marijuana. Ronna Romney is a huge ally of his so getting her silly ass out of this state is a coup. I just don't want to see Michigan turn into North Kentucky. (No offense to Kentucky, but dang). Edited December 13, 2016 by KIMBERLYANN11 Autocorrect, I love you - but please chill Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825332
Nidratime December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 On 12/11/2016 at 9:10 PM, Duke Silver said: Trump & his Queen Troll are being direct about their intention to gut intel services: https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/808114160508792832 Who, exactly are "his own" people? Producers and writers on the Apprentice? Golf course and hotel managers? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825425
NewDigs December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 Dear god in heaven, Kanye just arrived TrumpTower. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825550
MulletorHater December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 On 12/11/2016 at 9:10 PM, Duke Silver said: Trump & his Queen Troll are being direct about their intention to gut intel services: https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/808114160508792832 Yes, and they will all have to pledge a blood oath to Comrade Putin beforehand. There isn't enough make-up in the world that will hide Vlad's bite marks on the Crypt Mistress' neck. The Kremlin on the Hudson has been brought to us by the non-voters, and folks voting for third parties (including gorillas) that didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. How's that "protest vote" workin' for ya? As LOD pointed out last night with his panel, we will have a "president" who is unqualified, an NSA appointee who is unqualified and a SOS who is also unqualified. What the hell do we have to lose? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825597
Guest December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 50 minutes ago, NewDigs said: Dear god in heaven, Kanye just arrived TrumpTower. Too uninterested for intelligence briefings, but OK with meeting with a dude just released from a 5150 hold in California? Huh. Sounds about right these days. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825668
Duke Silver December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 https://twitter.com/VictoriaDahl/status/808525593490767872 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825682
proserpina65 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 Every time I think it can't get any worse, it does. I need to stop thinking. I'd say tequila would do it, but given recent developments, better make that vodka. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2825717
AntiBeeSpray December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 10 hours ago, KIMBERLYANN11 said: Michigan's got it's own problems. Bill Schuette, the one in charge of squashing down our recount, announced he's planned to run for governor in two years. He's an enemy to gay rights, women's rights and medical marijuana. Ronna Romney is a huge ally of his so getting her silly ass out of this state is a coup. I just don't want to see Michigan turn into North Kentucky. (No offense to Kentucky, but dang). Oh I'm aware of it, my friend told me about what's going on there. Minus the Schuette thing. That's even worse. It's bad enough. I heard that it's one of the most racist states now from them. It's very concerning. 4 hours ago, Duke Silver said: https://twitter.com/VictoriaDahl/status/808525593490767872 WTF O_O. I don't think I want to know. /facepalm 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826393
fastiller December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 This is how Jezebel covered Perry at Dept/Energy: 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826749
SoSueMe December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 OMG Katrina Pierson is making her pitch for Press Secretary now. Shoot me now. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826753
galaxygirl76 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 IIRC, didn't he forget the dept of energy existed way back when he ran for president? Holy mother of God, why. He's dumber than a box of rocks. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826863
AntiBeeSpray December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 41 minutes ago, SoSueMe said: OMG Katrina Pierson is making her pitch for Press Secretary now. Shoot me now. Word. Ugh. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826864
callmebetty December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 56 minutes ago, SoSueMe said: OMG Katrina Pierson is making her pitch for Press Secretary now. Shoot me now. Holy shit I had to Google her. She's the nut job who wore the necklace of bullets. Yep she seems right for the job. Well and truly fucked. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826902
Bastet December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said: IIRC, didn't he forget the dept of energy existed way back when he ran for president? Holy mother of God, why. He's dumber than a box of rocks. During a primary debate, Perry said he wanted to eliminate three departments, but could only remember two (Education and Commerce); he later said the one he forgot was Energy. I wish Molly Ivins was still alive on general principle, but especially to read what she'd have to say about Gov. Goodhair (as she called him). 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826918
AntiBeeSpray December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Bastet said: During a primary debate, Perry said he wanted to eliminate three departments, but could only remember two (Education and Commerce); he later said the one he forgot was Energy. I wish Molly Ivins was still alive on general principle, but especially to read what she'd have to say about Gov. Goodhair (as she called him). I remember that! My mom and I thought he might have been getting Alzheimer's. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2826940
galaxygirl76 December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 (edited) Apparently Rick Perry is on the board of the company building the Dakota access pipeline......... Edited December 14, 2016 by galaxygirl76 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827038
AntiBeeSpray December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said: Apparently Rick Perry is on the board of the company building the Dakota access pipeline......... Oh boy... oil, oil and more oil. This new cabinet is full of more oil than the La Brea tar pits. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827080
fastiller December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said: Apparently Rick Perry is on the board of the company building the Dakota access pipeline......... & 2 hours ago, AntiBeeSpray said: Oh boy... oil, oil and more oil. Drill, baby, drill!!! Edited December 14, 2016 by fastiller 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827086
aradia22 December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Rick Perry was on DANCING WITH THE STARS. I thought he had officially given up on politics. #TrumpsAmerica 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827088
stormy December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 (edited) Well, Perry's going to have a pretty short stint being in charge of the Dept of Energy. Remember in 2012 that was one of the departments he wanted to get rid of (although he fogot what it was during a debate). So I guess he's going to walk in the door, fire everyone and go home? Edited December 14, 2016 by stormy 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827202
izabella December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, stormy said: So I guess he's going to walk in the door, fire everyone and go home? Oh hell no! Fox in the henhouse.... he is going to use his position to make himself and his buddies rich on oil money, like allowing the Dakota pipeline to go forward. At the expense of the environment and the residents and taxpayers. More fracking in Oklahoma, until it collapses in on itself from earthquakes! More coal! Edited December 14, 2016 by izabella 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827254
Duke Silver December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 McMullin has been getting a ton of hate from Trumpsters, white nationalists, otherwise disaffected rubes....but he is one conservative who is refusing to cave-in. I hope to learn more about what McMullin stands for from a policy perspective, but I really like his big tent rhetoric. https://twitter.com/cnntoday/status/808830365120872448 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2827799
Bookish Jen December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 On 12/11/2016 at 3:30 PM, Bastet said: Jim Hightower has been talking about "kleptocracy" and "kleptocrats" for at least a decade. Thieves in High Places is a good read. I absolutely adore Jim Hightower. I met him a few years ago at a book signing and he was a delight. I need to subscribe to his newsletter once again. 8 hours ago, Duke Silver said: McMullin has been getting a ton of hate from Trumpsters, white nationalists, otherwise disaffected rubes....but he is one conservative who is refusing to cave-in. I hope to learn more about what McMullin stands for from a policy perspective, but I really like his big tent rhetoric. https://twitter.com/cnntoday/status/808830365120872448 I'm a big time liberal, but I have a lot of respect for this man. He's very brave. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2828338
sistermagpie December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Bookish Jen said: I'm a big time liberal, but I have a lot of respect for this man. He's very brave. He is. That party's become really cult like. Put one foot out of line and you're a RINO and this guy's just sticking to what he believes to be right--and in this case what he believes to be right is actually good for the world instead of some excuse to attack a minority group he doesn't like. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2828474
Duke Silver December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Others have mentioned that Maddow did a great segment about this last night, but this is worth a read too: Under Rex Tillerson, Exxon Mobil Forged Its Own Path Abroad Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2828812
fastiller December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Bookish Jen said: I absolutely adore Jim Hightower. I met him a few years ago at a book signing and he was a delight. I need to subscribe to his newsletter once again. I also really like Hightower. He's the right combination of crotchety curmudgeon and affable & avuncular. (I'm rolling out the SAT vocab here, right?!) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2828863
Duke Silver December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Hahahaha, Flynn's crazy-ass son was all over twitter decrying the release of this report. Dude was using every anti-media diatribe from the playbook. Meanwhile, shockingly, the GOP only cares about lax security/sharing of secrets if it's HRC: Read the military investigation into Michael Flynn, Trump’s national security adviser 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2828896
izabella December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Most of Trump's picks would never pass the lowest security clearance background check to be a carpet cleaner in the federal government, yet they will be running our country and security agencies. Thanks, Putin, thanks a lot. I guess Putin is having the BEST Christmas EVER! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2828982
stormy December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 I hope Mr and Ms "I'm so miserable with my life, that I would vote for and actually think a gas-filled asshat will save the country from everything and everyone I hate" have a Merry Christmas too. I still can't accept the fact that asshat in chief and his band of deplorables, that don't care about the air we breath, the water we drink or if kids will have public education, among other things, will be running the country. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49079-rumored-presidential-appointments/page/13/#findComment-2829205
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